They turned Thor into a hobosexual, Hulk into a green politically correct anger pacifist, replaced Black Panther with a woman, literally retired Captain America and killed off Ironman. I really don't see how Marvel plans on saving themselves from that level of BS.
u forgot captain america turned into biden.... lol and somehow changed the past to live with his old flame which completely destroyed their own plot. they said they cant change the past and here is cap poppin up.
Only way they could, would be a total universe reboot that resets the status quo. I doubt they will though. I'm guessing that eventually they'll replace Peter Parker's Spider-Man with Miles Morales. They've already done it in the Insomniac Spider-Man games. It's only a matter of time before the MCU does the same.
@@death-king1834 The problem with a full on reboot is diversity. Twitter is going to demand either OG Avengers be Black or replace them with their minority counterpart from the beginning. Also characters like Carol Danvers, Ms Marvel, and She Hulk, would be pushed as main front runners probably. There's just no way I can see Disney allowing an MCU reboot being comic accurate.
America Chavez grabs our original heroes from the multiversity along with the Xmen and then gets killed in Doomsday; therefore stranding everybody on Earth 616.
yeah lets put in Iron Heart and Ms Marvel in the Avengers? I thought M-she-U was done? 😆 this is what they do, instead of putting the cream of the crop the very best they got they don't listen at all to fans basically give us the bird and fail up! they put the worst of the worst in instead!😆 you just can't make it up, I gave up they will never ever change they suck and that's it.
Hailey Atwell is cool, but turning Carter into a female version of Captain America will just fall flat like it did in the "What If" episode. This is not the way to success.
@@Indianaflynn -you must have missed the "What if?" series. In it, Peggy Carter gets the super-solder serum instead of Steve Rogers and becomes Captain Carter. That is her uniform. She was featured in multiple episodes. I liked it.
Because Peggy Carter is a real, fleshed out character, actually looks like a woman, doesn't hate men, and doesn't act like a female wanna-be Alpha Male.
Her own character who got the super soldier serum instead of Steve Rogers, got the shield but put a British symbol on it, got a blue suit and put a British flag on it. Sure that sounds like she's her own character. Its the same difference as Ironman and Ironheart but Atwell is a more likeable actress so some people are ok with it. Still M-She-U.
So in other words, Disney thinks the problem isn't their ridiculous woke DEI nonsense, they just think they picked the wrong front woman for it. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with Hailey Atwell, she certainly doesn't seem like she's going to be stupid enough to openly attack the actual audience. But every one of their female-centric nonsense has failed because people aren't interested in it, no matter WHO is selling it. Disney can't write interesting characters or good stories anymore, because they've gotten rid of everybody with actual talent in favor of their DEI hires who can't write their way out of a paper bag. Changing from Larson to Atwell isn't going to change that.
A good chunk of the issue is the writers. The actress can be ignored to an extent if she is managed properly to not attack the audience, but a poorly written character wont sell to the audience no matter how good they look.
Disney is so far gone they think they are middle America. They don’t understand how extreme left they are. They can’t course correct until they figure out how far from the center they are.
--allow women to be women --make the female characters team players or team leaders, not girlbosses --don't turn all the men around them into fools and idiots (looking at you, Fury!) --don't steal from major male heroes (looking at you, FemThor!) --and yeah don't insult the adience; remember you want them give you money!
Like woke people in general, Marvel hasn't done a good job with making likeable female characters since phase 3 ended. I don't believe anyone actually like Natasha Romanoff's "sister" either; she was insufferable in the Black Widow movie. Putting Captain Carter aside, Peggy Carter, Susan Carter (her niece who they totally forgot about after Captain America: The Winter Soldier), Mantis, and arguably Nebula, are the only likeable female characters still alive in the MCU. Everyone else is either dead or unlikeable.
@@MarvinPowell1The niece was also in Civil War, unfortunately. I find her to be fake tough and just fake. Gina Carano would be better. I think Nebula has landed on unlikable, probably because the actress is so self-satisfied, but Pepper Potts could still be likable (if they don’t turn her into an action heroine again).
Hard pass. Her as Cap is still M-She-U to me. I have no plans to watch the next couple of Marvel movies in theaters, definitely not the ones coming out in 2025.
There seems to be a faction excited for Thunderbolts, apparently because people don't know what to expect frm it and think it will be action-pcacked or something.
Yup, still m-she-u, the real Captain Britain is/was a dude named Brian Braddoc and his power suite was more like Superman not just a British Captain America.
Same here. Peggy Carter is in the past while her Captain Carter is a multiversal variant that is not needed and just confusing. Just let it and her go, along with the rest of the MCU. It's dead.
Umm. It’s still Disney Marvel. I don’t like Disney. I said when they purchased Marvel they’d ruin it in ten years, they beat my prediction. I said the same thing when they bought Lucas Film, they ruined every Lucas Film property, and again, beat my decade prediction. Why do I give them another chance?
Yeah they totally ruined Star Wars. Those last 3 garbage movies and the Acolyte totally undermines the very foundation and the whole purpose story of Star Wars. It’s all Woke DEI LGBT agenda garbage and instead of changing it back they’ve doubled down and say the problem is that the fans are bigoted racists and homophobes. Crazy. I hope they collapse.
I mean... I get some of the movies have been manor misfires. But gotg 3 made good money and so did deadpool. If they were dead then we still would not getting anything period.
I had a huge crush on Hayley Atwell during Agent Carter series and the first Captain America movie... kinda feel like her time has passed at this point.
@@MarvinPowell1 Damn.. I had a paper route and cut lawns to make money for my comic books back in the 70s, so I am not exaggerating when I say that wokeness has destroyed all the things I loved as a child.
I like her…when her role isn’t terrible. Her saying “I can do this all day” pretty much permanently destroyed any enthusiasm I could ever have for her further involvement. Soooo dumb.
Mantis and Gamora were pretty close to thier comic versions, the rest of the MShe-U wasnt even close. Good characters used to spin off from other good character series, not forced like today.
@lancekemal8989 She certainly got better over time However her outfit, like all their costumes were over-designed. I did geta kick outta seeing the comic version, MCU used to do that alot in the early flicks.
@willpower8061 Comic book Mantis is nothing like MCU Mantis, though. She's not even green in the MCU. And Gamora was seriously nerfed in the MCU as she's supposed to be as strong as Drax.
If we talking “multiverse” then Captain England” is plausible. I can suspend reality for that vs a female “Captain America”. I’m just burnt out on the forced Girl Boss phase.
Hayley Atwell is a fun actress and extremely attractive. I loved her as Agent Carter and I admittedly had a crush on her. But I don't think she'll bring me back to the MCU or Disney.
As much as I like Hailey in other films in that she's not bad at acting and is an attractive female which so far isn't seemingly public about DEI nonsense, the fact that Disney is selecting her as a prop to keep the agenda going thinking people like me will go just because of what I said speaks to how they think little of the core audience. We don't want anymore this woke nonsense. We do want the characters to be what they are originally and no gender swapping. Hulk being a savage, Captain America being about America, Iron Man being about those love you 3000 moments, but no they go and do this.
Yep Hayley's Agent Carter predated the M-She-U and was a great character, but it doesn't mean that if she's in it now, that it won't go exactly the same way as the rest of the M-She-U. They'd need to dump all the writers ands park the ideology and I can't see them doing that - in fact this implies its still going to continue
Agent Carter the series was actually super annoying. I get that it was a man's world in the '40s, but they didn't need to make sexism the central theme of the entire show. Shame as I really wanted a cold war spy movie in the MCU. So I don't think the woke is gone.
Look, Ms. Atwell is clearly the most talented and likable actress Marvel has. It helps that, yes, she is stunningly beautiful. All of that means nothing if the script is trash, and Marvel has not proven that they can write a good script since Endgame.
@@DJmicaiah "Degrade men to lift up women." That's a sign of woke. Peggy was written that way. She was there to prove Agent K wrong, Bucky Wrong, Hodges wrong and that she is better than Steve and doesn't even need the super soldier serum.
Marvel doesn't need expensive actors to fix the series, the actors' performances aren't the problem. They are performing their material well. It's the material that needs replacing.
@@arthurpendragon3000 you haven't seen the What If show then. She wasn't a girlboss there. She was nice and respectful to men and didn't pretend like she was better than them.
@@arthurpendragon3000 Still waiting for them to girlboss Megara. (btw supposedly in Australia the Lion King Twisted Tale is out and it has Nala on a secret mission for Scar)
The people at Disney made Echo, Agatha, Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch ( I forget the name of the show) , Black Panther 2. They intended to make the female Avengers with the lamest, gayest characters and expected you to like it. They obviously have no idea what comic book fans want, or the "agenda" is more important! The gay dude from Agatha is supposed to be an Avenger! Whose next super Rupal? Disney thinks we are mindless simpletons, while they are sophisticated elites who can shove anything down our throats (pun intended) and expect you to ask for more. They are not clever enough to pull this off. Every show mentioned before were also terribly done not even done with respect to the characters Disney has become the LIFETIME network.
Personally. The only way I would care to see the two of them back in those rolls is if they were portraying the same Steve and Peggy last seen dancing together in End Game. Any variant won’t have the same emotional or narrative weight to it 🤷🏻♂️
It's gonna bomb. Film genres go in phases. The superhero genre is just dead for now. It's too big. Too messy. Too confusing. Folks are looking for something new. Simple as that.
As long as they got Ricardo Richardos instead of Reed Richards, I ain't watching Marvel except for Deadpool. Deisney killed Marvel, Dr. Who and Star Wars. Deisney needs to be destroyed.
Ricardo Richellmo is definitely not it. But even worse they got the worst cuck feminist beta to play their Latino Long Legs, which will doubly suck. HARD PASS!
The MCU as we knew it ended with Avengers: Endgame, with the two later two Spidy films, Far from Home and No Way Home, as an optional 2-part "Epilogue." Everything after that for me is non-existent, canon or otherwise.
Woke movies didn't really START in 2020. It's just that there was nothing else but completely, thoroughly woke. Woke is also not just replacing every male character with a woman. Hayley Atwell could not possibly draw me back to the theater. I liked her in her old role, but I really don't care that much about her. As far as I'm concerned, her story wrapped up at the end of Endgame. The big problem is that the stories have super sucked, and Hollywood gives every indication they do not know what a hero is, and they think a villain is a hero.
Nope. She and her show were just as woke, and having her as Captain America is ridiculous. No thank you. I always enjoyed Black Widow. It's a shame she was utterly wasted as a character and killed off for no good reason.
Marvel ended (at least for 5-10 years) with Avengers Endgame. The studio should have taken a long hiatus after Endgame. Everything they've done since then has not only created superhero fatigue, but also a distaste of Marvel in general. Hell, I, myself, didn't watch Deadpool v. Wolverine because what's the point? What is it actually going to lead to? None of the storylines are good either
Peggy Carter is a great character because she _didn't_ have superpowers and was just a brave woman who did what was right. She works better as a non-powered hero than as a Steve Rogers replacement. Hayley Atwell is pretty cool and anti-woke (being a hot woman with huge breasts and all; the woke hates women like her) but she shouldn't be replacing another pre-existing character. Just like Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen, Captain Carter is only a good character when she's a non-canon, multiverse, "what if" thing. Making her canon will ruin the character, just like Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen. There is only one Captain America, just like there's only one Falcon and only one Peggy Carter.
Well I need to bring back Agent Carter. Just don't make her a superhero like they did in the cartoon. Remember she had a TV series called agent Carter and it was suppose to explain how she started that Shield spy agency and they never did finish that story . Instead they went out in the weeds and then the series got canceled. So they need to go back to that storyline and show and show us how she founded shield like they started to
Just get rid of ultra feminist character because as a woman myself oftentimes the ultra feminism that they are trying to advocate in their movie is a big turn off 🙏
I never understood why she was called _"Captain Carter"_ I mean, Steve Rogers was never called Captain Rogers, he was always Captain America.... She should have been called Captain Britain, or Captain England, she even wears the flag on her suit 😅
Let Disney and Marvel and Star Wars burn. Let something new and original from something else become a thing, and actually give the audience what it wants. A great story, fleshed out characters and no MESSAGE
Do you hear yourself? The MCU moving past the all new, all female M-She-U by making Hailey Atwell Captain Britain isn't going to work. It's still woke trash.
I loved seeing Hayley in the Mission Impossible film, and would love to see a again in a major role and just hope it’s a well written story. There’s no doubt she is a great actress.
rogue and psylocke are also extremely iconic and popular I love both of those characters as long as there sexy and feminine and there wearing there iconic outfits (specifically Jim Lee 90s outfits ) that would be awesome
I can’t see that happening since it’s Disney. They’ll give them more appropriate costumes, especially Psylocke (a real ninja outfit but form fitting). I can see Rogue have a similar look to the 90s Xmen version
@terryr7622 i disagree. Heres why they want X-Men to be a hit 🎯. So tget will do what they have to to guarantee it being a hut . Alos we hav gotten comic accurate psylocke before with fox so it's not gonna be idd for them to not do it . but understand what your trying to say ,. Cause I don't trust Disney to do anything right either lol
If Hayley’s Cap was more powerful than male Cap, but only when she was nude, as clothing somehow constrained her abilities, so she spent the entire film naked…I would go see this movie. Otherwise, not interested in Captain Britain.
I dont go to the theater anymore and I wont pay for streaming.. I will torrent a movie once in a while, while I am here at my condo in Cuenca, Ecuador. She is a good looking woman.
it will never stop the people at Disney have no respect for comics or the people who read them they have no idea how to please us based on the moves they are making (robert downey as doom? stupid) Chris evan is a smart move but they will stink it up! This chick is a Captain America copy.
What an incredibly stupid take. I look forward to the failure. Fortunately I stopped giving marvel money years ago so it's not really any skin off my teeth
This is so stupid. No one should “take over” anyone’s identity. Why can’t the characters, male, female, black, white or purple, thrive on their own as WHO THEY ARE? Another helping of erasing history, anyone?
They did this to themselves. Each of these superheroines have had a long, proven track record in comics. What they simply had to do was bring that to the screen, without all of the annoying gender-politics.
The movie has failed already. If they "need" parity with the male characters when the audience just needs and wants a good movie then who are they making this film for? Not us. I'll pass. Again.
I will keep having fun by never watching the Avengers again unless it is the young avengers with none of the woke avengers who decided to push Kamala Harris on America. They failed but I still don't need them in my life; not anywhere.
"Say goodbye to the M-She U guys!, here is Captaaaainn CAAARTEERR" See this is why you are suspected of being Disney plants always saying the right things to get people back into Disney. Captain Carter is woke, Captain Carter is M-SheU. Nothing has changed they are just going to be a tiny bit more subtle about it.
@@TabalugaDragon Did you see the what if series? She is a Captain America replacement, she is a fighting chick, she is masculine both in design and how the character act.
@@Trencher1375 I'm askign exactly because I've seen she show, and she's the complete opposite of Captain Marvel and She-hulk. 1. Had plenty of experience before she took the super-serum 2. Doesn't belittle or disrespect men around her, doesn't act like she's better than them. 3. Had gentleness and vulnerabilities in her character, unlike the other 2 I mentioned above. Her only true "Mary Sue" moment was in season 2 finale. That's literally it.
2019 Disney actually had the perfect nostaliga bait lineup though. Lion King and Aladdin are two of the biggest Disney Renaissance titles, the only thing on the same level from that time period is The Little Mermaid. Beauty and the Beast is close I suppose. Then Endgame was the result of ELVENT YEARS of movies. Disney cannot release something like that annually. Star Wars cntributed to a full BILLION of that ammoun. Frozen is way, WAY more popular than Moana, the latter is just baysitting fare as others have poitned out. It is high on NIelsen because people play it in the background. Toy Story 4 had three movies leading up to it. There was also another Marvel film in there which somehow made a billion. And apparently NOT because of quality. 2026 is Disney's next stab at 2018, and 2027 is their next stab at 2019. In order to do 2019 every year, they have to start planning that as SOON AS 2025 beings and already have plans for LIlo and Stitch sequel and to have more Avengers films than Standalones.
Haley WOULD be a solid choice to lead their new efforts, but there’s only room for one Cap at a time. If this is the decision, Steve Rodgers will undoubtedly be Captain Hydra. Either way, I have abysmal confidence in the MCU right now.
They turned Thor into a hobosexual, Hulk into a green politically correct anger pacifist, replaced Black Panther with a woman, literally retired Captain America and killed off Ironman. I really don't see how Marvel plans on saving themselves from that level of BS.
u forgot captain america turned into biden.... lol and somehow changed the past to live with his old flame which completely destroyed their own plot. they said they cant change the past and here is cap poppin up.
Only way they could, would be a total universe reboot that resets the status quo. I doubt they will though. I'm guessing that eventually they'll replace Peter Parker's Spider-Man with Miles Morales. They've already done it in the Insomniac Spider-Man games. It's only a matter of time before the MCU does the same.
Which is a logical evolution of these characters as done in the comics
@@death-king1834 The problem with a full on reboot is diversity. Twitter is going to demand either OG Avengers be Black or replace them with their minority counterpart from the beginning.
Also characters like Carol Danvers, Ms Marvel, and She Hulk, would be pushed as main front runners probably. There's just no way I can see Disney allowing an MCU reboot being comic accurate.
America Chavez grabs our original heroes from the multiversity along with the Xmen and then gets killed in Doomsday; therefore stranding everybody on Earth 616.
"The M-she-U is over! Here's the new female hero to lead the MCU back to greatness!" lmfao
Meet the NEW M-She-U, same as the old M-She-U. Different face, same concept.
Hard pass.
@@arthurpendragon3000 at least, this one has nice.......
yeah lets put in Iron Heart and Ms Marvel in the Avengers? I thought M-she-U was done? 😆 this is what they do, instead of putting the cream of the crop the very best they got they don't listen at all to fans basically give us the bird and fail up! they put the worst of the worst in instead!😆 you just can't make it up, I gave up they will never ever change they suck and that's it.
Hayley Atwell, though I like her, will do nothing for Marvel. The Agent Carter failed, remember.
Exactly. Passssss
Still got lady Surfer coming up, too.
Passssssss
Hailey Atwell is cool, but turning Carter into a female version of Captain America will just fall flat like it did in the "What If" episode. This is not the way to success.
Yeah, that'll be a NO.
"The M-she-U is over"
Shows female Captain America
The worst part of what if... by far
Looks like a British flag to me.
@@Indianaflynnyeah the female version of captain America has a British flag.
@ Really? I can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or true lol? If true, eh ?!?
@@Indianaflynn -you must have missed the "What if?" series. In it, Peggy Carter gets the super-solder serum instead of Steve Rogers and becomes Captain Carter. That is her uniform. She was featured in multiple episodes. I liked it.
She works as Agent Carter. The end.
That's what I remember
How is this not M-she-U? Another fake Captain America? Y’all are delusional
Because Peggy Carter is a real, fleshed out character, actually looks like a woman, doesn't hate men, and doesn't act like a female wanna-be Alpha Male.
@@MarvinPowell1 Yes, excatly.
@bufordt.justice467 No, your delusional. Captain Carter doesn't claim to be a "Captain America". She's her own character.
Her own character who got the super soldier serum instead of Steve Rogers, got the shield but put a British symbol on it, got a blue suit and put a British flag on it. Sure that sounds like she's her own character. Its the same difference as Ironman and Ironheart but Atwell is a more likeable actress so some people are ok with it. Still M-She-U.
Have you actually seen What If show? She was never toxic or girl-bossy. The only "Mary Sue" moment she had was in season 2 finale of the show.
So in other words, Disney thinks the problem isn't their ridiculous woke DEI nonsense, they just think they picked the wrong front woman for it. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with Hailey Atwell, she certainly doesn't seem like she's going to be stupid enough to openly attack the actual audience.
But every one of their female-centric nonsense has failed because people aren't interested in it, no matter WHO is selling it.
Disney can't write interesting characters or good stories anymore, because they've gotten rid of everybody with actual talent in favor of their DEI hires who can't write their way out of a paper bag. Changing from Larson to Atwell isn't going to change that.
A good chunk of the issue is the writers. The actress can be ignored to an extent if she is managed properly to not attack the audience, but a poorly written character wont sell to the audience no matter how good they look.
Disney is so far gone they think they are middle America. They don’t understand how extreme left they are. They can’t course correct until they figure out how far from the center they are.
--allow women to be women
--make the female characters team players or team leaders, not girlbosses
--don't turn all the men around them into fools and idiots (looking at you, Fury!)
--don't steal from major male heroes (looking at you, FemThor!)
--and yeah don't insult the adience; remember you want them give you money!
Like woke people in general, Marvel hasn't done a good job with making likeable female characters since phase 3 ended. I don't believe anyone actually like Natasha Romanoff's "sister" either; she was insufferable in the Black Widow movie. Putting Captain Carter aside, Peggy Carter, Susan Carter (her niece who they totally forgot about after Captain America: The Winter Soldier), Mantis, and arguably Nebula, are the only likeable female characters still alive in the MCU. Everyone else is either dead or unlikeable.
@@MarvinPowell1The niece was also in Civil War, unfortunately. I find her to be fake tough and just fake. Gina Carano would be better. I think Nebula has landed on unlikable, probably because the actress is so self-satisfied, but Pepper Potts could still be likable (if they don’t turn her into an action heroine again).
I'm over it. And her. It's all M-She-U to me! 👎
I'm giving it a change
Hard pass. Her as Cap is still M-She-U to me. I have no plans to watch the next couple of Marvel movies in theaters, definitely not the ones coming out in 2025.
There seems to be a faction excited for Thunderbolts, apparently because people don't know what to expect frm it and think it will be action-pcacked or something.
Yup, still m-she-u, the real Captain Britain is/was a dude named Brian Braddoc and his power suite was more like Superman not just a British Captain America.
Completely agree. Going to be a few YEARS before I pay to watch a Disney movie.
Same here.
Peggy Carter is in the past while her Captain Carter is a multiversal variant that is not needed and just confusing.
Just let it and her go, along with the rest of the MCU. It's dead.
@@poppazoz Your dumb. Marvel Studios already knows about Captain Britain, which is partially why they came up with the name Captain Carter instead.
Umm. It’s still Disney Marvel. I don’t like Disney. I said when they purchased Marvel they’d ruin it in ten years, they beat my prediction. I said the same thing when they bought Lucas Film, they ruined every Lucas Film property, and again, beat my decade prediction. Why do I give them another chance?
Go to universe studios
james gunn won’t let us down
Yeah they totally ruined Star Wars. Those last 3 garbage movies and the Acolyte totally undermines the very foundation and the whole purpose story of Star Wars. It’s all Woke DEI LGBT agenda garbage and instead of changing it back they’ve doubled down and say the problem is that the fans are bigoted racists and homophobes. Crazy. I hope they collapse.
No thanks, hard pass. Agent carter is not anything more then agent carter. And her episode as Captain America in what if was dumb.
They only call her captain Carter because Captain Britain is already taken.
No for me
Oh wow.,WHO CARES. THE MCU IS ALREADY DEAD.
But no one built it a gravestone yet.
Didn't Deadpool Wolverine save it? Asking for a friend named "Robert"...
Yeah the movies were already becoming soulless before they went full regard (aka woke)
@@bathtub_marmotnope, the vegan down with democracy for Kamala can gfh
I mean... I get some of the movies have been manor misfires. But gotg 3 made good money and so did deadpool. If they were dead then we still would not getting anything period.
I had a huge crush on Hayley Atwell during Agent Carter series and the first Captain America movie... kinda feel like her time has passed at this point.
I don't feel the same way. I'd say she's still good.
Shes still hot AF, she just got overlooked because of her figure.
@@ironkoenigman3258 👍👍👍
Maybe. Will she be the same character, or a re-written character for the non-existent 'modern audience?'
I actually liked agent carter.
Officially cast Sydney Sweeney as Black Cat and then you'll have my attention.
I'll buy that for a dollar.
Marvel made Black Cat a lesbian ten years ago and her face model was a transwoman in the Sony Spider-Man game. She's a hyper woke character now.
@@MarvinPowell1 Damn.. I had a paper route and cut lawns to make money for my comic books back in the 70s, so I am not exaggerating when I say that wokeness has destroyed all the things I loved as a child.
😍😍😍
Sorry for being a fascist, but imho hot young Marvel was the best Marvel.
I dont have an issue with captain carter but there's only room for one "captain". Its Steve Rogers. With that said, I wouldn't mind a cameo.
I personally would like to see Captain Carter and Captain America working together in a future Avengers movie.
I like her…when her role isn’t terrible. Her saying “I can do this all day” pretty much permanently destroyed any enthusiasm I could ever have for her further involvement. Soooo dumb.
Mantis and Gamora were pretty close to thier comic versions, the rest of the MShe-U wasnt even close.
Good characters used to spin off from other good character series, not forced like today.
Scarlet Witch is pretty much the same. If anything comic Scarlet Witch is slightly worse for killing the Vision
@lancekemal8989 She certainly got better over time
However her outfit, like all their costumes were over-designed.
I did geta kick outta seeing the comic version, MCU used to do that alot in the early flicks.
@@willpower8061 Her Dr Strange 2 outfit was near perfect to me as a former comic reader. Aside from the lack of a cape.
@lancekemal8989 yes her outfit was decent but too many vertical lines in the vest...the cape was waaay to busy, less is more sometimes.
@willpower8061
Comic book Mantis is nothing like MCU Mantis, though. She's not even green in the MCU. And Gamora was seriously nerfed in the MCU as she's supposed to be as strong as Drax.
If we talking “multiverse” then Captain England” is plausible. I can suspend reality for that vs a female “Captain America”. I’m just burnt out on the forced Girl Boss phase.
She's basically just MCU Captain Britain, so idk why they aren't just calling her that unless they're preparing to introduce the male counterpart.
Make Women Women Again, that abbreviates to MWWA. Very fitting XD
Haley thought that her version of Tomb Raider was good PASS
Hayley Atwell is a fun actress and extremely attractive. I loved her as Agent Carter and I admittedly had a crush on her.
But I don't think she'll bring me back to the MCU or Disney.
Disagree
As much as I like Hailey in other films in that she's not bad at acting and is an attractive female which so far isn't seemingly public about DEI nonsense, the fact that Disney is selecting her as a prop to keep the agenda going thinking people like me will go just because of what I said speaks to how they think little of the core audience. We don't want anymore this woke nonsense. We do want the characters to be what they are originally and no gender swapping. Hulk being a savage, Captain America being about America, Iron Man being about those love you 3000 moments, but no they go and do this.
Nothing wrong gender swapped it can work if done correctly People really need to stop complaining about woke so much
Haley Atwells Captain Britain character will be just as woke Captain Marvel and She hulk.
Hayley Atwel's character is Captain Carter. Not "Captain Britain".
@ironkoenigman3258 Captain Carter, Captain Britain, who cares. It will be woke trash.
Im glad their keeping hailey, everyone liked her, she got her own show for that reason
Yep Hayley's Agent Carter predated the M-She-U and was a great character, but it doesn't mean that if she's in it now, that it won't go exactly the same way as the rest of the M-She-U. They'd need to dump all the writers ands park the ideology and I can't see them doing that - in fact this implies its still going to continue
Agent Carter the series was actually super annoying. I get that it was a man's world in the '40s, but they didn't need to make sexism the central theme of the entire show. Shame as I really wanted a cold war spy movie in the MCU. So I don't think the woke is gone.
Agent Carter season 3 was Anti-Anti-Communist (including teaming up with the previous seasons KGB antagonist) and generally “huWhte Man bad”.
Look, Ms. Atwell is clearly the most talented and likable actress Marvel has. It helps that, yes, she is stunningly beautiful. All of that means nothing if the script is trash, and Marvel has not proven that they can write a good script since Endgame.
I dunno, Karen Gillan's grown on me a lot in the context of MCU actresses since GotG2 if I were to be completely honest...
Agent Carter is unwatchable to me. It made men look evil. Howard Stark was made into a complete goof. That was where Marvel went woke.
Couldn’t disagree more
I hate it when they degrade men to lift up women. The best is where man and woman can work together and complement each other
@@bendu8282 Acting was good but writing was garbage.
@@DJmicaiah "Degrade men to lift up women." That's a sign of woke. Peggy was written that way. She was there to prove Agent K wrong, Bucky Wrong, Hodges wrong and that she is better than Steve and doesn't even need the super soldier serum.
yes but in What If show(except for season 2 finale) she was good.
Marvel doesn't need expensive actors to fix the series, the actors' performances aren't the problem. They are performing their material well. It's the material that needs replacing.
The M She U is over because a female knock off of Captain America is taking over the Avengers? Does not compute.
Just gonna be another girl boss...only marvel show I'm even lukewarm about is Daredevil.
Hailey Atwell (along with Emily Blunt) was one of the actresses who said she was fed up of the strong female leads.
@@classic3511 And then went on to voice Nu Tomb Raider. The Lara "sweat stains" Croft.
Yeah...
I'd be open to Hayley Atwell returning, just don't want her to be a girlboss!
Disney owns the property so it will be girl boss time!! The new girlboss Avengers won't need no man on the team unless he's gay or beta male sidekick.
@@arthurpendragon3000 you haven't seen the What If show then. She wasn't a girlboss there. She was nice and respectful to men and didn't pretend like she was better than them.
@@arthurpendragon3000 Still waiting for them to girlboss Megara. (btw supposedly in Australia the Lion King Twisted Tale is out and it has Nala on a secret mission for Scar)
@@TabalugaDragon Wait but Wendy is fine with girls being in the "Lost Boys" but she cannot respect dudes? How does that work?
Hayleigh Atwell is friggin' AWESOME. Please leave her as agent Carter though.
The people at Disney made Echo, Agatha, Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch ( I forget the name of the show) , Black Panther 2. They intended to make the female Avengers with the lamest, gayest characters and expected you to like it. They obviously have no idea what comic book fans want, or the "agenda" is more important! The gay dude from Agatha is supposed to be an Avenger! Whose next super Rupal? Disney thinks we are mindless simpletons, while they are sophisticated elites who can shove anything down our throats (pun intended) and expect you to ask for more. They are not clever enough to pull this off. Every show mentioned before were also terribly done not even done with respect to the characters Disney has become the LIFETIME network.
I think you might be talking about WandaVision
Wrong they can pulled it off
We don't parity in the MCU. What we need is to bring the male characters that everyone loves in the comics.
Wasn't she here the whole time they just didn't remember til Dr Strange 2 and What If
Personally. The only way I would care to see the two of them back in those rolls is if they were portraying the same Steve and Peggy last seen dancing together in End Game. Any variant won’t have the same emotional or narrative weight to it 🤷🏻♂️
I got no problem with Haley Atwell.
It's gonna bomb. Film genres go in phases. The superhero genre is just dead for now. It's too big. Too messy. Too confusing. Folks are looking for something new. Simple as that.
As long as they got Ricardo Richardos instead of Reed Richards, I ain't watching Marvel except for Deadpool. Deisney killed Marvel, Dr. Who and Star Wars. Deisney needs to be destroyed.
Ricardo Richellmo is definitely not it.
But even worse they got the worst cuck feminist beta to play their Latino Long Legs, which will doubly suck.
HARD PASS!
Wanda Maximoff "Scarlet Witch" is the most popular woman Marvel Studios really have.
The MCU as we knew it ended with Avengers: Endgame, with the two later two Spidy films, Far from Home and No Way Home, as an optional 2-part "Epilogue." Everything after that for me is non-existent, canon or otherwise.
Woke movies didn't really START in 2020. It's just that there was nothing else but completely, thoroughly woke. Woke is also not just replacing every male character with a woman.
Hayley Atwell could not possibly draw me back to the theater. I liked her in her old role, but I really don't care that much about her. As far as I'm concerned, her story wrapped up at the end of Endgame. The big problem is that the stories have super sucked, and Hollywood gives every indication they do not know what a hero is, and they think a villain is a hero.
They started back in 2000 with climate end of the world change
Nope.
She and her show were just as woke, and having her as Captain America is ridiculous.
No thank you.
I always enjoyed Black Widow. It's a shame she was utterly wasted as a character and killed off for no good reason.
She’s Captain British America…or something…
Same here regarding Black Widow. Scarlett did her thing. Sad she was taken out
Marvel ended (at least for 5-10 years) with Avengers Endgame. The studio should have taken a long hiatus after Endgame. Everything they've done since then has not only created superhero fatigue, but also a distaste of Marvel in general. Hell, I, myself, didn't watch Deadpool v. Wolverine because what's the point? What is it actually going to lead to? None of the storylines are good either
YES!!! "Make women... women again." It's not hard.
i loved Agent Carter too, was very disappointed when it was canceled. More Agent Carter? Sure!
Huge HDTV sets + Streaming services = Slow Death for Movie Theaters
If they bring Captain Carter from "What If" I won't be watching 😂
Clearly what they are going to do. This is Disney, they have one play book.
Peggy Carter is a great character because she _didn't_ have superpowers and was just a brave woman who did what was right. She works better as a non-powered hero than as a Steve Rogers replacement. Hayley Atwell is pretty cool and anti-woke (being a hot woman with huge breasts and all; the woke hates women like her) but she shouldn't be replacing another pre-existing character.
Just like Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen, Captain Carter is only a good character when she's a non-canon, multiverse, "what if" thing. Making her canon will ruin the character, just like Miles Morales and Spider-Gwen. There is only one Captain America, just like there's only one Falcon and only one Peggy Carter.
Well I need to bring back Agent Carter. Just don't make her a superhero like they did in the cartoon. Remember she had a TV series called agent Carter and it was suppose to explain how she started that Shield spy agency and they never did finish that story . Instead they went out in the weeds and then the series got canceled. So they need to go back to that storyline and show and show us how she founded shield like they started to
Just get rid of ultra feminist character because as a woman myself oftentimes the ultra feminism that they are trying to advocate in their movie is a big turn off 🙏
Who cares anyway? Disney didn't bend the knee to wokeism, they led the charge.
They'll only try to make it more subtle... but will keep pushing "the Message" as well as thay can.
I never understood why she was called _"Captain Carter"_ I mean, Steve Rogers was never called Captain Rogers, he was always Captain America.... She should have been called Captain Britain, or Captain England, she even wears the flag on her suit 😅
Need to fix Star Wars
ASAP
They need to fix everything in Disney
No thanks
We met Haley at a convention a while back during the promotion of Winter Soldier. She was very nice to my then very young daughter. Very class act.
Remember Thanos' quote. "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you. Back to me."
It’s too late, the last straw was avengers for kamala
Let Disney and Marvel and Star Wars burn. Let something new and original from something else become a thing, and actually give the audience what it wants. A great story, fleshed out characters and no MESSAGE
Oh man they're doing to Haley Atwell what Sony did to Sydney Sweeney. Puppies must be allowed to run free! You want my money, show me the puppies!
Do you hear yourself? The MCU moving past the all new, all female M-She-U by making Hailey Atwell Captain Britain isn't going to work. It's still woke trash.
Don't be fooled here
I loved seeing Hayley in the Mission Impossible film, and would love to see a again in a major role and just hope it’s a well written story. There’s no doubt she is a great actress.
I would call Elizabeth Olsen's "Scarlet Witch" a success. "Yelena Bulova" was a limited, qualified success? OH!!! And MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!!!
rogue and psylocke are also extremely iconic and popular I love both of those characters as long as there sexy and feminine and there wearing there iconic outfits (specifically Jim Lee 90s outfits ) that would be awesome
I can’t see that happening since it’s Disney. They’ll give them more appropriate costumes, especially Psylocke (a real ninja outfit but form fitting). I can see Rogue have a similar look to the 90s Xmen version
@terryr7622 i disagree. Heres why they want X-Men to be a hit 🎯. So tget will do what they have to to guarantee it being a hut . Alos we hav gotten comic accurate psylocke before with fox so it's not gonna be idd for them to not do it . but understand what your trying to say
,. Cause I don't trust Disney to do anything right either lol
If Hayley’s Cap was more powerful than male Cap, but only when she was nude, as clothing somehow constrained her abilities, so she spent the entire film naked…I would go see this movie. Otherwise, not interested in Captain Britain.
I’m convinced this is a psyop at this point. “It’s all the same look! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!” - Zoolander
I like Haley but Not as Captain America of Britan
Haley Atwell is just great as agent Carter
I actually like Haley Atwell. She’s never come off as woke. I’m willing at least to give her a chance
I dont go to the theater anymore and I wont pay for streaming.. I will torrent a movie once in a while, while I am here at my condo in Cuenca, Ecuador. She is a good looking woman.
it will never stop the people at Disney have no respect for comics or the people who read them they have no idea how to please us based on the moves they are making (robert downey as doom? stupid) Chris evan is a smart move but they will stink it up! This chick is a Captain America copy.
What an incredibly stupid take.
I look forward to the failure.
Fortunately I stopped giving marvel money years ago so it's not really any skin off my teeth
This is so stupid. No one should “take over” anyone’s identity. Why can’t the characters, male, female, black, white or purple, thrive on their own as WHO THEY ARE?
Another helping of erasing history, anyone?
They did this to themselves.
Each of these superheroines have had a long, proven track record in comics.
What they simply had to do was bring that to the screen, without all of the annoying gender-politics.
As a little boy, i collected and read many Marvel, DC, Image and Dark Horse comics. NONE of them were women related.
I’m a woman and hated the most of the women comics
They need YOUNGER actors/actresses that actually fit the role they’re playing. Plus, stop trying to Britishize everything that’s American. That’s all.
She is lovely
A rare swing and a miss for Pro. This is still woke propaganda
I like Captain Carter
Hayley Atwell had attributes. Disney is ideologically opposed to attributes
Get back to following the comics and they win. But they wont...
Merry Christmas, Pro and friends!
Is this how bad we are screwed? Those are good news? God damn
The good news being that it remains as bad as before and have not regressed further.
My comments keep getting deleted, I thought this was a channel that doesn't silence people 😂
The movie has failed already. If they "need" parity with the male characters when the audience just needs and wants a good movie then who are they making this film for? Not us. I'll pass. Again.
Still not interested 😒
I will keep having fun by never watching the Avengers again unless it is the young avengers with none of the woke avengers who decided to push Kamala Harris on America. They failed but I still don't need them in my life; not anywhere.
"Say goodbye to the M-She U guys!, here is Captaaaainn CAAARTEERR"
See this is why you are suspected of being Disney plants always saying the right things to get people back into Disney.
Captain Carter is woke, Captain Carter is M-SheU. Nothing has changed they are just going to be a tiny bit more subtle about it.
how is she woke?
@@TabalugaDragon Did you see the what if series? She is a Captain America replacement, she is a fighting chick, she is masculine both in design and how the character act.
@@Trencher1375 I'm askign exactly because I've seen she show, and she's the complete opposite of Captain Marvel and She-hulk.
1. Had plenty of experience before she took the super-serum
2. Doesn't belittle or disrespect men around her, doesn't act like she's better than them.
3. Had gentleness and vulnerabilities in her character, unlike the other 2 I mentioned above.
Her only true "Mary Sue" moment was in season 2 finale. That's literally it.
Can't agree more. Don't listen to this other person their an ally to the woke agenda
I can fix marvel, just give me 5 mins
Hayley Artwell should be Lara Croft instead.
Thanos needs to snap the entire MCU out of existence and start over
DEI MCU isn't working.
2019 Disney actually had the perfect nostaliga bait lineup though. Lion King and Aladdin are two of the biggest Disney Renaissance titles, the only thing on the same level from that time period is The Little Mermaid. Beauty and the Beast is close I suppose.
Then Endgame was the result of ELVENT YEARS of movies. Disney cannot release something like that annually.
Star Wars cntributed to a full BILLION of that ammoun.
Frozen is way, WAY more popular than Moana, the latter is just baysitting fare as others have poitned out. It is high on NIelsen because people play it in the background.
Toy Story 4 had three movies leading up to it.
There was also another Marvel film in there which somehow made a billion. And apparently NOT because of quality.
2026 is Disney's next stab at 2018, and 2027 is their next stab at 2019. In order to do 2019 every year, they have to start planning that as SOON AS 2025 beings and already have plans for LIlo and Stitch sequel and to have more Avengers films than Standalones.
Hailey Atwell? No thanks, british and female star means mega liberal and woke. No thanks.
Haley WOULD be a solid choice to lead their new efforts, but there’s only room for one Cap at a time. If this is the decision, Steve Rodgers will undoubtedly be Captain Hydra.
Either way, I have abysmal confidence in the MCU right now.