To be fair, do have a decently good chance rolling grave horror taunt on mountain giant. The rogue was still pretty screwed either way, but I agree going face was defo better for maximum highroll to Myras->si face or something
@@Crawdithe98 That's true, but like Kibler said, if he chooses to commit all his resources to killing the giant, how does he win from there? He has no resources left to play while Kibler is still sitting on 6 cards in hand. I would have gone for the hail mary and attacked face. 9 times out of 10, it doesn't work out but at least you have a small glimmer of a chance this way.
Conjurers calling on a mountain giant will actually give you a 7/8 taunt priest minion half of the time and kibler still had a twinspelled calling so he would still win almost every time. That said, the rogue still needed to go face as it was obviously his only chance
He's just trying to lull you into a false sense of security. Once you're nice and comfortable talking to him about design, he feeds you to Shiro and then he and Natalie drink wine over your corpse. There have been documented cases.
@@arifridwanabriyanto9286 You have the probability to draw Sap too as a Rogue, making the trades there was like " hey guy you know what my hand is empty, I' ll give you the win by trading". It was100% the wrong play from him there. He could play around Fireball because some Mages run it now, but at this time of the game you accept to die on Fireball. Making the trades just give you the loss there.
Hey why not toss in arcmage Arugal? It’s a great card, sinergyses well with the rest of the deck and honestly I haven’t seen him since Wichwood came out.
Too slow and too clunky. Cant get full value since hand is usually full anyway. Cant get tempo because no immediate impact/threat since cards drawn from this deck aren't cheap. The only time you get enough value is against super slow deck like control warriors, but even then you crush them regardless.
@@sonyabladesbooty3890 for one thing, that's his job, he gets paid money when he casts games and monetization is a thing, secondly Toast is a Math Major you know
Lmao @ these comments. Yes, streaming does generate money through monetization and other sort of sponsorships. But at the end of the day, it's too unstable. You have to constantly put your face out there on a daily basis, constantly find and/or represent your sponsors, be consistent in your content creation and overall presence as a streamer, etc. The moment you stop, or misbehave or piss off your sponsors, the money stops. A lot of these streamers are aware of this and its why they literally do nothing else but stream, because they chose that lifestyle over the more realistic one, which is why Brian is LUCKY that he can make a living off playing card games and being involved in the video game industry having a major in philosophy and religion, because under traditional post-college standards when it comes to looking for a job in a field like that, he would have fucking STARVED.
Any adult with a steady salary from a decent job, specifically in this case in a field as mentioned by the original comment like engineering or science, will ALWAYS pay better than anyone who streams. Some of the internet's obsession with streaming culture disconnects them from reality so fucking hard and it shows. But if someone is making a decent living off streaming, good for them...because in all honesty, as someone who's fully independent, works two jobs and studies at the same time, I, like many others, wish it were that EASY.
Control Warrior has a 64% W/R against Tempo Rogue on HSReplay L-5 ranks, maybe that person didn’t have it filtered right. Edit: I misheard what was said.
That rogue messed up in the end, u never trade leeroy in that scenario, youre already behind so u need to take the risk that your opponent doesnt have 2 dmg or else u cant win
Hex Lord isn't really crucial. He helps in the control matchup, but so could any number of other cards: Pyroblast could help you close out a game against control, for instance. But, uh, I agree with Shawn here: your next craft needs to be Zilliax. There really is no good replacement for him, though Rotten Applebaum is an... *okay* substitute.
There have been a lot of times where i've tempo'd out a Si:7 on turn 3 with no combo and it helped me win the game, granted i would usually do that against aggro. But its not always a bad option
Son Goku didn’t mean combo cards I mean like khadgar or when people blow topsy inner fire and stuff like that the turn before they have the full combo because they’re impatient
Son Goku like it’s really cringe when people drop khadgar as just a 2/2 on tempo just to have him backstabbed and completely wasted like don’t be greedy and keep your combo pieces in hand because health means nothing unless they have lethal
I like Brian's videos... and his background looks pretty cool! Like if you love his videos and if you are one of the people that click on a video a second after is posted!
3:17 Is Kibler implying he's never been to HSreplay? If you want to know what the site defines as "Bomb Warrior" or "Tempo Rogue" you can click on it and it will give you a full range of all the most popular decklists for that archetype...
Ok so he prevented conjurer's calling...then what? His hand was empty. He traded with no resources to play next turn and Kibler still have a hand to play. The correct play was punching everything to face for 10 total putting Kibler at 1. Then topdeck something to deal 1 damage cuz either way the rogue player loses so his best move was to highroll to find 1 damage instead of 11 damage. Like Kibler said: "How are you gonna win?"
1) The package needs a lot of cards to just do what it needs to do. (Scheme, waggle pick, elekk/minstrel/? 2) Rouge does not have enough healing to survive aggro, so you need a way to survive for a long time. No more shadowblade, Valeera, evasion to help mitigate damage. No more King's bane to lifesteal to full. 3) After all that, your win condition isn't exactly unfair. Think Jade shaman: you have finite number of jades. By the time your jades were strong enough, 80% of your jades are used up. So maybe you get a few more after that and that's it. Oh, and Jade shaman had lots of removal tools back then. Much more than Rogue has now. If you can overcome those 3 things, I'm sure your deck can get huge (pun intended)
Everytime leeroy is played for a trade, Leeroy dies a second time
At least he had chicken.
Hahahahaha
Waggle rogue is just Valeera waggling her finger at you
That's the third best thing she could waggle at me.
If that rogue just went all face with leeroy, he would've had lethal with dagger the next turn NotLikeThis
To be fair, do have a decently good chance rolling grave horror taunt on mountain giant. The rogue was still pretty screwed either way, but I agree going face was defo better for maximum highroll to Myras->si face or something
And leave the Giant out to be Conjurered into two taunts (four with Khadgar).
@@Crawdithe98 That's true, but like Kibler said, if he chooses to commit all his resources to killing the giant, how does he win from there? He has no resources left to play while Kibler is still sitting on 6 cards in hand. I would have gone for the hail mary and attacked face. 9 times out of 10, it doesn't work out but at least you have a small glimmer of a chance this way.
It's easy: going face -> a chance to win! clearing giant -> no chance to win! i'll rather take the small chance and go face
@Fuduwahluz your logic is a feelsweirdman
7:03 wtf is that guy doing?
He needs to make sure he takes enough damage to activate the Lucentbarks he'll get off Hench-Clan Burglar into Crystalsong Portal.
What?
@@ScherFire Wait what? Are we even watching the same video
@@deusvult725 it's a joke
@@deusvult725 it's a joke
That guy threw. Could've put you to 1 and pray you don't have 2 damage, that was the only way he was winning. And he actually could've won.
Conjurers calling on a mountain giant will actually give you a 7/8 taunt priest minion half of the time and kibler still had a twinspelled calling so he would still win almost every time. That said, the rogue still needed to go face as it was obviously his only chance
yep
NEVER TELL ME THE ODDS@@amazingleomar6885
Kibler seems like such a good person to just sit down and chat with
He's just trying to lull you into a false sense of security. Once you're nice and comfortable talking to him about design, he feeds you to Shiro and then he and Natalie drink wine over your corpse. There have been documented cases.
10:55 there's the disguised toast ;D
"waggle rogue" is the most fun deck name to say of all time.
6:56 those trades hurt my brain...
That was higher play we cant comprehend
@Trock2Rob89 classic playing to not lose instead of playing to win
True Man.. He was one off with the leeroy play, he could just go face and keep it one more turn to get lethal after, worst rogue ever !
@@Raidogiji but Conjurer to the Giants has 50/50 result to get taunt.. He probably ran out of hard removal in his deck
@@arifridwanabriyanto9286 You have the probability to draw Sap too as a Rogue, making the trades there was like " hey guy you know what my hand is empty, I' ll give you the win by trading". It was100% the wrong play from him there.
He could play around Fireball because some Mages run it now, but at this time of the game you accept to die on Fireball.
Making the trades just give you the loss there.
Let the games begin.
Kibler had a chance because the opponent didn't play Raiding Party until Turn 9. Even then, it was still pretty close.
Hey why not toss in arcmage Arugal? It’s a great card, sinergyses well with the rest of the deck and honestly I haven’t seen him since Wichwood came out.
its too slow sadly, the deck has enough value without arugal
Too slow and too clunky. Cant get full value since hand is usually full anyway. Cant get tempo because no immediate impact/threat since cards drawn from this deck aren't cheap. The only time you get enough value is against super slow deck like control warriors, but even then you crush them regardless.
Should've gone with the hero Khadgar. Then the deck could be Khadgar Khadgar.
Brian Studied Philo and Religion!? Who knew, I always assumed he was either a Math major or a Engineering graduate
If that were the case, he'd probably be doing something productive with his life as opposed to playing video games all day.
@@sonyabladesbooty3890 for one thing, that's his job, he gets paid money when he casts games and monetization is a thing, secondly Toast is a Math Major you know
Sonya Blade's Booty you know this guy earns much more than you and most of us... right? 🤣🤣
Lmao @ these comments. Yes, streaming does generate money through monetization and other sort of sponsorships. But at the end of the day, it's too unstable. You have to constantly put your face out there on a daily basis, constantly find and/or represent your sponsors, be consistent in your content creation and overall presence as a streamer, etc. The moment you stop, or misbehave or piss off your sponsors, the money stops. A lot of these streamers are aware of this and its why they literally do nothing else but stream, because they chose that lifestyle over the more realistic one, which is why Brian is LUCKY that he can make a living off playing card games and being involved in the video game industry having a major in philosophy and religion, because under traditional post-college standards when it comes to looking for a job in a field like that, he would have fucking STARVED.
Any adult with a steady salary from a decent job, specifically in this case in a field as mentioned by the original comment like engineering or science, will ALWAYS pay better than anyone who streams. Some of the internet's obsession with streaming culture disconnects them from reality so fucking hard and it shows. But if someone is making a decent living off streaming, good for them...because in all honesty, as someone who's fully independent, works two jobs and studies at the same time, I, like many others, wish it were that EASY.
@@dwighttheislander7369 He plays video games all day. True to the reality of majoring in philosophy lmao.
I’m so glad someone else is calling this “Waggle Rogue” when it’s so different from classic Tempo Rogue.
Lackey Rogue is probably a better name, since that's what's giving the deck so much power.
Loving the new exp. content, but would love more of it :P
Is that the same shawarma bowl from the last video? Cause it lookedd so yummy.
Oh up to no good? Me too
Control Warrior has a 64% W/R against Tempo Rogue on HSReplay L-5 ranks, maybe that person didn’t have it filtered right.
Edit: I misheard what was said.
They were comparing Control Warrior and Bomb Warrior, not Control Warrior and Tempo Rogue.
@@FARecordsJF Went back and listened and you're right man, I apologize. That makes way more sense.
Khadgar Dragon deck is better?
omg im mel8o8! im in the vid!
Okay, the #FreeGalavadon Meme pretty much died, so I'm gonna go back to being normal.
Job's done!
That top suits you
By what can I replace Malacrass in this deck?
How would I make this deck work if I don’t have Malacrass or Kalecgos?
You actually dont need malacrass... But kalecgos is really important
Malacrass unnecessary, but coin Kalecgos is insanely gamewinning kappa.
A free flamestrike or a pyroblast is always good...
Where does he see which deck is good against which?
What would you replace Hex Lord Malacrass with in this deck?
another ooze because maybe honestly the Malacrass isn't necessary
HEY HEY! Kibler is into philosophy just like me!
That rogue messed up in the end, u never trade leeroy in that scenario, youre already behind so u need to take the risk that your opponent doesnt have 2 dmg or else u cant win
Jerry Ye
It’s easy to sit here and point out errors, but the player made their own decision and you just need to accept that.
Has someone got the decklist? I am too lazy to copy jt manually hahah
Any replacement for hex Lord and zillax? F2P here
Craft zilliax. Dust whatever you have to. He is in basically every deck ever.
Add the draw elemental Minion.. Try to get giant faster and conjure it..
Hex Lord isn't really crucial. He helps in the control matchup, but so could any number of other cards: Pyroblast could help you close out a game against control, for instance. But, uh, I agree with Shawn here: your next craft needs to be Zilliax. There really is no good replacement for him, though Rotten Applebaum is an... *okay* substitute.
What is he eating?
Friendly reminder, DONT TEMPO WITH COMBO PIECES thanks.
There have been a lot of times where i've tempo'd out a Si:7 on turn 3 with no combo and it helped me win the game, granted i would usually do that against aggro. But its not always a bad option
Son Goku didn’t mean combo cards I mean like khadgar or when people blow topsy inner fire and stuff like that the turn before they have the full combo because they’re impatient
Son Goku like it’s really cringe when people drop khadgar as just a 2/2 on tempo just to have him backstabbed and completely wasted like don’t be greedy and keep your combo pieces in hand because health means nothing unless they have lethal
This Rogue player hurt my brain...
me to... wtf was he doing at the end...
7:03 he fucking used a dagger to kill a 5/1 and a lackey to kill a 1/1 smh he's so bad
He was probably on tilt because he didn't draw Raiding Party until Turn 9 and lost even though he was sniping.
can you play Muck shaman pls this deck seems very strong
Can u try a RAGER deck?
That rogue was probably sniping.
Agreed. It was curious how he was holding back all his lackeys and then went wide only after Jan'alai was active.
That Rogue was too horrible to be a sniper
Sabo Dew you should watch some of the snipers on Toasts streams. They don’t necessarily snipe to win, only to dick around then throw the game.
Franck Sonata playing in the background. I know cuz I've played it :-)
This was the worst rogue I've seen in my life. Who boosted him?
Ohh hello my clone, how u doing?
Pretty good! Thanks for asking clone.
You are the same guy you can see looking at your profile/playlist I'm cringing writing this
Noo, im his clone 😉
@@League____ Anyway, looks like u playing league of legends too... Wanna play sometimes?
@@catalintoader9818 If we can even duo what's your rank lol
I like Brian's videos... and his background looks pretty cool! Like if you love his videos and if you are one of the people that click on a video a second after is posted!
Hi clone!
That rogue deck seems really weak sauce
yeah fan of knife and zillax :D
Na that trade was the worst play I’ve ever seen
Let's start calling these decks "Conjurer Mage" and "Lackey Rogue". The names are so much more cooler that way
3:17 Is Kibler implying he's never been to HSreplay? If you want to know what the site defines as "Bomb Warrior" or "Tempo Rogue" you can click on it and it will give you a full range of all the most popular decklists for that archetype...
I'm selling used cats, anyone interested?
Used? Whau mean
@@catalintoader9818 Like, used to live outside.
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First!
obligatory *insert early joke*
obligatory that's what she said joke
7:01 dumbest play ever from opponent
This rogue player is awful. I'm amazed he got to rank 1
He didn't played awful because he knew that giant could be used for conjurer's calling that will summon 2 grave horror w/c have taunts...
Ok so he prevented conjurer's calling...then what? His hand was empty. He traded with no resources to play next turn and Kibler still have a hand to play. The correct play was punching everything to face for 10 total putting Kibler at 1. Then topdeck something to deal 1 damage cuz either way the rogue player loses so his best move was to highroll to find 1 damage instead of 11 damage. Like Kibler said: "How are you gonna win?"
@@puddingcess8452 oh yeah that's true my bad hehe.
Why does nobody think pogo rouge will be good this expansion.
Togwaggle scheme makes it op
Too slow.
1) The package needs a lot of cards to just do what it needs to do. (Scheme, waggle pick, elekk/minstrel/?
2) Rouge does not have enough healing to survive aggro, so you need a way to survive for a long time. No more shadowblade, Valeera, evasion to help mitigate damage. No more King's bane to lifesteal to full.
3) After all that, your win condition isn't exactly unfair. Think Jade shaman: you have finite number of jades. By the time your jades were strong enough, 80% of your jades are used up. So maybe you get a few more after that and that's it. Oh, and Jade shaman had lots of removal tools back then. Much more than Rogue has now.
If you can overcome those 3 things, I'm sure your deck can get huge (pun intended)