The ART SGX LT Preamp - Todd Testing Stuff
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- In all it's retro Glory, here is the ART SGX LT Preamp. No pedals, no nothing. Just direct in to the SGX and power amp/4x12 cab/mic.
Run through of every single factory preset on the HOTONE AMPERO. I love this thing. Great tones, very compact, great price. It's the perfect multi pedal IMHO.
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I just bought one of these online for $59, can't wait to get my hands on it. It will be a nice addition to the budget retro rack I'm building. thanks for posting!
It's a great unit! Please do share a vid when you get it!
That thing sounds great! I love those things! Thank you for the excellent demo man!
You bet! Thanks for checking it out!
I just bought one of these at the Goodwill store for $32 dollars and did a search of it, and Boom you made it happen. I can see the potential this has and I'm excited !! Thank you for the great video. Time to play!!
Sure thing! Congrats on your new gear!
Was it working?
Man, nostalgia. Really serviceable brown sound out of this. Totally brought me into shred inspo territory. I remember using something as a cab sim back in '93..might have been an unit EQ for phono/turntables. Regardless, it kicked ass!
Thanks for watching! I'm with ya, I love these units! They are getting harder to find and more expensive! I got this one for under $100 and now I see them going for double that!
I owned 2such units. Had a great time with them as they were the heart of my quad amp rig.
LOVE the ART stuff. It's so under rated imho.
@@techniqueswithtodd aside from the sgx-lt's I had a few other pieces of art equipment. I loved each piece. As with the lt's I would image a mono splitter to feed both sg's work out a patch to a stereo backend and feed a power amplifier to a cab pair (stereo) with the right signal top going stage right the bottom going stage left then use the 2nd lt to delay the patch ( a few Ms) and send the 2nd patch to another power amplifier for another pair stereo n the inverse manner. And using the delay and phase function to add width to the quad image. Sounded great in my music room and off the desk
It seems the ART stuff is suddenly getting more expensive eh? A few folks like myself and leon Todd are making reviews of old gear that has been ignored and then bam, the prices shoot up!!
@@techniqueswithtodd I bought an SGX 2000 with the foot control for $40 lol
@@LeftHandedRightHanded Wow!! Where? Ebay? Reverb? That's a great price.Im still on the lookout for one!
just purchased one .love ART systems
Me too!!! This has no post processing. It's just the mic on a randall cab. But as they say most tone is in the fingers.
Heard your Demo & Immediately went & grabbed one. Savage Tones Bud. Should I grab a BBE & pair it up with this like you did in the Nitro Video ?
Sure!! The BBE is cheap to grab, get a stereo bbe and use one channel going in to the nitro and one channel coming out. Really makes the unit shine!!
BTW, this is the unit that I tested after I sold my BBE, I'm using the BBE on the other ART vid. Sorry for the confusion!
I just bought one of these because this review. Thanks for posting it!
Hope you enjoy it! I LOVE these units!!
@@techniqueswithtodd Thanks! Just got it last night and hooked it through my Fractal AX8. This thing sounds awesome.
@@ZeNeonKnight It's almost shocking isn't it? These things are decades old and yet still they sound great!!
@@techniqueswithtodd Definitely, man. I find the more I mess around with it, the more I can shape some cool sounds. Great channel--subscribed!
@@ZeNeonKnight Super thanks for the subscribe! More vids to come!!
I recently got it's older brother sgx-2000 Yeah 1980's in a box :)
Well said!!! :)
Just seen one of these for sale locally and wanted to find out what it does. I love the 80s but not a metal head. More into the long reverbs, chorus and flange. Does this baby have some nice long church reverbs? I wonder if I could use it on vocals??? Thanks. Great demo!!
These have some great long reverbs built in. You just pick your preset and bam. You can use it for just about any source. Just use a patch with the gain feature disabled, which is about half of them or just turn it off manually and save that patch. These are great little units imho. Grab one if you can!!
Killer!! I've been wanting to get this unit, But how is it that your can making this sound so good? hahaha! Come on - whats secret? Haha, are you running it through something for a better signal? Can you please share the signal chain? Anyways, Killer playing, and killer tone, as always!
PRACTICE! :) Seriously, it's just running to a 5 watt mojotone micro from Hotone, then a Randall Cab and a Shure SM57 then audio interface to computer. No post processing. The key really is finger/pick pressure. I'd be happy to skype you some private lessons on these licks. Just let me know :)
Thanks so much for the offer, but I don't have the means to Skype, plus i travel extensively for work, as well. I have seen your "Techniques with Todd" and Ive learned so much! I appreciate your channel, and your videos.. One of the best channels on youtube for any/all guitar related stuff! Maybe in the future you can create videos on how to "hook-up" rack mount affects, utilizing effects loops etc. That would be so helpful, since you have the skills to build guitar rigs and create different configurations. In fact, is there an email address i can use to ask you a few questions on how to create an effects chain?
Thanks for watching! :) You can find me on Facebook and on Instagram and just message me. I'd be happy to help :) There are tons of vids on building fx chains right here on youtube. As for the SGX, I have had WADS of people ask me this same question about how I"m making it sound so good. I have a very heavy right hand technique for striking and muting. It helps drive whatever unit I"m using. It's just a stock unit with no pre or post fx, most of the tone is in ones fingers :)
These really do sound great! A bottom end model, but excellent enginerring, design, and programming. ART (Applied Research and Technology) is the people behind what once was MXR, so that should explain it! Full disclosure, they're local to me and I'm kinda biased lol.
@@l8lygr4y I love these things :) I try to grab one whenever I see one!!!
Im new to the art gear and have noticed there are so many different models. I cant find much describing what each unit does.
Is there a model that kinda does all of those other models combined, or is it best to get multiple models? I notice the product brochure on top if that has info on each one. Thanks!
These have not been built in quite some time. This is "vintage" gear at this point. The one in this video is the easiest to use as it has wads of fx and a distortion preamp which is the knobs on the front. All the presets are fixed and cant be modified so you just find one that you like and bam!
Does the SGX LT use the same preamp as the SGX 2000 (Express) ? Turbo Tubes, Psycho Tubes, Overdrive Tube, Solid Super etc ? I have a SGX 2000 (Express) and the drive tones don't seem to sound like this LT or say The SGX Nitro, Or SGE Mach II.
This has no tubes of any kind. It's a pure chip only unit. I think the secret sauce is using the drive section in the correct way. Some folks tend to "overcook" it imho.
Wow, F***ing awesome as well as ADA sound .I've decide to buy it from yahoo auction after watch your video..
Thanks much!!! Love how these old units sound :) Great deal for the price! One rack unit pretty much does it all. Add a midi controller and bam!
@@techniqueswithtodd I got a SGX T2,mixed with Rocktron Window maker preamp , it's awesome.
@@killerguitar Perfect combo!!
Thanks for the review, I'm looking to get something like this which has all those 80s guitar tones since I play in an 80s rock style band. I was wondering if it'd be possible to hook this up to a MIDI controller and change between whichever patches I want to during a live show. Can you assign whatever patch you like to footswitches on a MIDI controller with this, for easy access to the sounds you want?
Yes! It does support full midi control so it can be a one rack solution :)
If you buy the ART midi controller it auto assigns the midi board
I read that my line6 hd500 can be used for midi. I wonder if that would work as a footswitch for this. Seems you can find the unit at good prices, but not the damn foot switches.
I believe so! I've never tried it, but there are several vids on youtube about that very thing.
Also, does this have speaker simulation so it can be plugged direct into a mixer/PA for live use?
It's got a line out but not a speaker sim. You can plug it directly in to a mixing board, but you may want to put it through a cab emulator first. I love these old units :) They are getting pricier and harder to find! Another option is a less vintage unit like the 11 rack which can get the same types of tones and is widely available for cheap!
What was the signal chain here? Were there any effects in addition to the preamp? Was it going into an amp and then miked or did it go right into a d a w?
Signal Chain was GUITAR to ART SGX LT. No boost, just going to a 5 watt hotone mini head set on clean to a randall 4x12 and sm57 mic to daw. Pretty basic. It's just what the unit sounds like. I'm just switching presets as they can't be modified. Most tone happens in the fingers IMHO.
@@techniqueswithtodd damn it I miss mine! Got it in '92 as a closeout when the next models were coming in at my local shop. $115 - it was the bottom of the line model. I had many procs, SPX90 mk2, Lexicon LXPs, Eventide 949 (not sure on model), others. I had a sweet Fender Tremolux so rarely used external preamps, but for that price and convenience of tone shaping, had to have it! Gave up playing a few years later and sold it to a used gear shop, they gave me $175!!
Had I known I wasn't done playing, just a break (25 year break lol), I'd have just stored everything away. Now Tremoluxes are minimum a few grand, can't find my Fender custom shop strat to buy back, but now that you reminded me how much I enjoyed the SGX lt, gotta snatch one up! Great vid man.
@@l8lygr4y Sorry for the lag!! They are running really cheap just now so grab one!!! :)
Most of these ART's I see online don't have knobs like this. Is it easier with knobs to edit?
This one does not allow much editing. The knobs are just for adjusting the overall tone and how much distortion is being used. Basiically, it's for adjusting the pre amp section. The patches themselves can't be chainged on this unit. The only thing you can change is how much or little distortion you want on a given patch. After that, you just select which patches you like. You can then switch between them using a Midi Controller :)
Does this take a tube? Also can this be used as a preamp itself and how would i run it through a blacksatr ht5? It sounds damn cool
No tubes :) Yes it can be used as a preamp with a black star, just go guitar/ART SGX/input clean channel on blackstar or put it in the fx loop. Either way :)
I have one of these. I'm not really a guitar player though. Where the hell is the power switch?
It doesn't have one! It's "always on"
Cool video
Does the ART SGE mach 2 model sound like this?
Yup!!! It does to me at least :) Then again, most of this line sound sorta similar.
Is there cab sim in it??
Sadly no. It's a really old piece of kit. But wads of fun!
do you need also a BBE for this?
Nope. This is just the ART unit by itself.
Where is the power switch? How do you turn it on and off?
It's 80s rack gear you power it from a rack mounted power supply. There is no power button :) This is vintage rack gear so it just powers on when plugged in.
@@techniqueswithtodd wow, thanks for the prompt reply. I inherited this unit from the previous owner of my house. I'm a drummer and have a little home recording and band rehearsal set up in my basement. I wanna use it for vocal reverb on the pa and didn't know it had no power switch. Thanks for clueing me in.
@@andthensome512 No problem :) Give it a whirl! I love these units :)
I have a ART SGE pitch transposer Cant find anyone to fix it
You'd be better off to just buy a new one. They are going for cheap on ebay and reverb!
very nice, which song 1:55 ?
BARK AT THE MOON by Ozzy :)
thankyou. good song
175 for one of art sgx lt
That's almost double the price that these should be. Other folks like Leon Todd and Michael Nielson and others have been making retro gear videos with these units as well and it seems to have driven up the price!
Does this use tubes ??
No tubes were harmed in this vid :) It's all SOLID STATE but it's meant to sorta sound like tubes. These are great units!!!
@@techniqueswithtodd wow, sound convincing !
@@jafethuerta It's impressive considering this unit is decades old! These are cheap to buy on ebay and reverb.com :)
@@techniqueswithtodd Exactly, I just spotted one and maybe pulling the trigger 🤣😂
Playing was great, effects are over bearing... WAY TO MUCH!!
That's sorta the point on these units :)
Man. This is one of 3 ART products that I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT as a guitarist..I play tech metal on Bass Vi's and 8 strings tuned to the floor and I JUST bought one of these to have a backup after watching this vid.. I thought. Well if guitar center has one for under $150 ..IF they have one. Which is a GIANT IF . and lo and behold . $70.99 after tax and shipping was $88.90. that's A STEAL considering it even has the manual with it lol and these are getting VERY DIFFICULT to find.. there is 2 on reverb RIGHT NOW ..one for $300+$67 shipping. And another for $99 + $25 shipping Open to offers. Not greatest physical condition but it's FULLY functional as it states. I gotta say this IS harder and harder to find.. but not NEARLY AS DIFFICULT as the other two staples of musical enjoyment of mine which are
1. ART DUAL CHANNEL TUBE PARAMETRIC EQ FULL SIZE RACK MOUNT (Same visual layout and colors as the half rack version or Tube Pac)
2. ART/PEARCE DST 80/80 RACKMOUNTABLE PREAMP/POWERAMP/HEAD/MIDI PROGRAMMABLE MULTI-FX UNIT.
I read that the power plant was the basis for designers who ended up at tech 21 and gave us a piece that I CURRENTLY use in my rack over the ADA MP1, Peavey Rockmaster, AND RockTron Piranha.. the Sans Amp PSA 1.1 Silverface..
At any rate . I found a NOS power plant for $80 + $25 shipping .. it's NOTHING like ANY tech 21 product I've used. AT ALL.. and although it had a stellar and powerful eq section.. it didn't have NEARLY enough gain. And I like my tones of course Brutez..but also not super gainy and saturated so I don't need a TON.. But all n all ..wasn't there.. underwhelmed. But this? The SGX LT.. you can pull modern chugs and djents RIGHT OFF THE FRONT PANEL.
Such a killer unit. This one cost me under $100 and now I'm seeing them for triple that amount!!!
Needless to say. I LOVE this unit . And as far as ALL TIME HIGH GAIN SLEEPER GEAR is concerned.. I DEFINITELY have to elect the
ART/PEARCE DST 80/80 first and foremost of all .
Followed by probably this. THE SGX LT ..maybe tied with Innersound IVP.. but NO DOUBT. in my top 5. And I've owned a HUGE store in the bay. Geared towards metal related gear where I had around 300 different preamps.. I put this up there for
SLEEPERS // UNSUNG HEROES THAT COULD BE
Well said!! I love these things. I have noticed they are going way up in price lately!