Direct Products of Groups (Abstract Algebra)

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  • The direct product is a way to combine two groups into a new, larger group. Just as you can factor integers into prime numbers, you can break apart some groups into a direct product of simpler groups.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 222

  • @LastvanLichtenGlorie
    @LastvanLichtenGlorie 5 років тому +85

    (2,2,4) Btw. These are the best videos ever. As soon as I become a data scientist I won't forget who helped me!

    • @KCIsMe
      @KCIsMe 4 роки тому +7

      How does group theory help with data science (just curious, cause I'm interested in both but didn't realize they relate)?

    • @LastvanLichtenGlorie
      @LastvanLichtenGlorie 4 роки тому +6

      Karan Chopra Symmetries are a central concept in understanding the laws of nature, it is widely used in physics, mathematics, chemistry and machine learning.
      an example of group symmetry being used in machine learning is Convolutional Neural Networks also known as space invariant artificial neural networks (SIANN). Mathematically, it is technically a sliding dot product or cross-correlation. This has significance for the indices in the matrix, in that it affects how weight is determined at a specific index point. Of course as soon as we are in the realm of matrices and linear algebra we are already being governed in many aspects by abstract algebraic structures and group theory.

    • @geogeo14000
      @geogeo14000 3 роки тому

      same for me

    • @chymoney1
      @chymoney1 3 роки тому

      @@LastvanLichtenGlorie translation invariance is cool but I feel like topological data analysis is much more of a direct application. At least from what I’ve seen

    • @azhari7968
      @azhari7968 2 роки тому

      I don't think it's necessary to study this topic to become a data scientist

  • @ninosawbrzostowiecki1892
    @ninosawbrzostowiecki1892 7 років тому +71

    This video is awesome! Please do one on Sylow's theorems.

  • @coldblaze100
    @coldblaze100 4 роки тому +19

    I can't wait for my baby niece to grow up and ace all her stem courses because Socratica exists

  • @m06prc
    @m06prc 4 роки тому +6

    I binge watched 20 of her abstract algebra videos. It is just that good.

  • @Fatim15leo
    @Fatim15leo 7 років тому +5

    hey, I loved these series of videos on Group theory as we were generally told that its one of the most complex subjects but you have put it up really nicely.

  • @PunmasterSTP
    @PunmasterSTP 3 роки тому +4

    Amazing videos! I think I've already watched ~8 so far this morning, and I have no plans of stopping!

  • @Socratica
    @Socratica  2 роки тому +1

    Sign up to our email list to be notified when we release more Abstract Algebra content: snu.socratica.com/abstract-algebra

  • @rayrocher6887
    @rayrocher6887 7 років тому +7

    this was an interesting and very well organized math lesson. thank you for the encouragement.

  • @bencrossley647
    @bencrossley647 5 років тому +4

    Due to a change of course I'm trying to study Abstract Algebra without having done the pre-module Geometry and Groups. These videos are a godsend.
    Oh and due to my strange course through university, I've already got a 1st in Vector Spaces, a pre-requisite of which is Abstract Algebra.

  • @almustaphaumar2904
    @almustaphaumar2904 11 місяців тому +4

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    • @Socratica
      @Socratica  10 місяців тому +3

      What a cheering message to read. Thank you for your kind thoughts. We're so glad you've found us! 💜🦉

  • @hasanaljamea2569
    @hasanaljamea2569 4 роки тому +1

    well explained 👍.
    can't wait for semi-direct product. so excited!

  • @thematt5325
    @thematt5325 7 років тому +40

    I had no idea what you were talking about but here's a thumbs up anyway.

  • @francceD
    @francceD 9 місяців тому

    Pleaseeee more abstract algebra videos!! There are not enough videos and you make the best videos everrr!!!❤ you explain everything so perfect , i love u ❤❤

  • @jpphoton
    @jpphoton 7 років тому +2

    Getting back to brass tacks. Awesome.

  • @arbsieyasin4127
    @arbsieyasin4127 3 роки тому

    You are always special and make topics friendly!!!

  • @utomato1147
    @utomato1147 5 років тому +2

    I feel like I was learning linguistic or grammar things! Interesting! Thank you!

  • @labmusqooraf5406
    @labmusqooraf5406 5 років тому +1

    your method of teaching is amazing.. keep it up

  • @shravandanga1403
    @shravandanga1403 4 роки тому

    Awesome. Best way to define the product of two groups and their properties. Thank you.

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl 2 роки тому

      "Direct" product. There are other kinds of products, like free products, and tensor products, semidirect product.

  • @saiganeshreddy7235
    @saiganeshreddy7235 6 років тому +7

    It would be lot useful if u even add the references at the end or beginning of the video ,content is elegantly explained in such short amount of time ,It would be lot useful if u can update videos on advance tops as well (ex:topology ,complex anylisis,real anylisis,number theory etc) .any way thanks alot it really helped me a lot to find the missing dots of my understanding in abstract algebra .

  • @paominlienguite2397
    @paominlienguite2397 5 років тому

    Your explaination is sooo simple I like it and can understand it very much thank you Ma'am.

  • @amitakar9620
    @amitakar9620 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this video brief . It helped me to learn the concept . ❤️. Take love from INDIA 🇮🇳

  • @avishkadhananjaya6964
    @avishkadhananjaya6964 5 років тому +2

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    @sarojpadhy5535 3 роки тому

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  • @maryamsaeed3633
    @maryamsaeed3633 4 роки тому

    This is such a precise explanation. Thank you mam

  • @Kisnaram_r_j
    @Kisnaram_r_j 4 роки тому

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  • @Matchless_gift
    @Matchless_gift 6 років тому

    Helpful as always

  • @categorygrp
    @categorygrp 5 років тому +6

    You should do a video on semi-direct products.

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    @sanjityadav3772 Рік тому

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    @kz.0681 Рік тому

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  • @kunslipper
    @kunslipper 6 років тому

    Thank you so much.

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    @sandeepkumarvermaau3741 7 років тому +2

    Nice job keep it up

  • @markmathman
    @markmathman 5 років тому

    Great videos!

  • @aleem1984
    @aleem1984 11 місяців тому

    Very good job. Thanks.

  • @shine6189
    @shine6189 9 місяців тому +1

    You are the best teacher of mathematical please make some videos for complex analysis

  • @macmos1
    @macmos1 7 років тому

    Great video.

  • @sureshmathemetics6696
    @sureshmathemetics6696 6 років тому

    I love ur teaching

  • @munirahabdullah6542
    @munirahabdullah6542 2 роки тому

    Thank u so much can you explain the Fundamental
    Theorem of Finite Abelian Groups

  • @AdityaKumar-bv3hq
    @AdityaKumar-bv3hq 2 місяці тому

    Wow, fantastic explanation

  • @parimuffins
    @parimuffins 3 роки тому +6

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  • @AQWraghd99
    @AQWraghd99 5 років тому

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  • @AbhishekSingh-mh4vk
    @AbhishekSingh-mh4vk 2 роки тому

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  • @mrgd7813
    @mrgd7813 7 років тому +1

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  • @user-bx2gz7kc4r
    @user-bx2gz7kc4r 7 днів тому

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  • @1729STUDYPOINT
    @1729STUDYPOINT Рік тому

    It's very helpful, 💯
    Thank you...
    Additional !
    I wish, I're also speak fluent English like you...

  • @fahrenheit2101
    @fahrenheit2101 8 місяців тому

    Another well explained video. Though I will say, a lot of this felt rather trivial, until the casual mention of that theorem at the end...

  • @lipshabhoi6300
    @lipshabhoi6300 6 років тому

    Hey ur all videoes r vry useful to understand can u explain product of 2 subgroups i really need this plz

  • @vanguard7674
    @vanguard7674 7 років тому

    Amazing.

  • @sanan22
    @sanan22 4 роки тому +15

    I wish I had a teacher like you back 25 years ago when I was in my pre-teens and in love with mathematics. it could've changed my life.
    bad teachers year after year had me lose interest

    • @jonm8218
      @jonm8218 3 роки тому

      let's not she's not alone in making this. ​Michael​ ​Harrison
      and Kimberly​ ​Hatch​ ​Harrison also worked on this too.

  • @amritathakur2036
    @amritathakur2036 5 місяців тому

    Plz make more videos on EDP and complete modern algebra

  • @theprimalfuckhead526
    @theprimalfuckhead526 7 років тому +2

    I think the correct law would be an infinite number of nontrivial finite groups (such that G is not equal to the set containing the identity element) have an infinite direct product

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl 2 роки тому

      Yes this is by basic set theory.
      There's also a direct sum that's restricted to abelian groups. They behave just like direct products except for in infinite number of summands, only finitely many components can be a non identity.

  • @sirluoyi2853
    @sirluoyi2853 2 роки тому

    Done!

  • @vaskoalph1648
    @vaskoalph1648 2 роки тому

    Love from India you are great teacher ❤️

  • @rollbacked
    @rollbacked Рік тому

    this channel is my hero

  • @jayashree.j1777
    @jayashree.j1777 6 років тому

    plz explain in detail... how a set transforms to a space & space to metric space with examples?

  • @elielx2
    @elielx2 4 роки тому +5

    "At Socratica the rate at which we make videos is a *direct product* of views, subscribers and Patreon supporters"

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl 2 роки тому

      She's lying. They intersect at the staff and equipment non-trivially so the product is internal and not direct.

  • @SwrwngThai
    @SwrwngThai 6 років тому

    I love the music ......

  • @nowornever5598
    @nowornever5598 5 років тому

    Thanks

  • @markmathman
    @markmathman 5 років тому

    An infinite product of trivial groups is a trivial group. This was overlooked (time mark 5:37 out of 8:54).

  • @vangelisrocks
    @vangelisrocks 2 роки тому

    thank you

  • @mathsacademy4174
    @mathsacademy4174 Рік тому +1

    well explained

  • @ScilexGuitar
    @ScilexGuitar 5 років тому +14

    4:55 Is it (2,2,4)?

  • @hayderkanaan3012
    @hayderkanaan3012 5 років тому

    I watch you videos, they are great
    but can create a video about Planar near-ring

  • @mahanthivenkataramana157
    @mahanthivenkataramana157 3 роки тому

    Ecxellent lecture

  • @dipsacedemy
    @dipsacedemy 3 роки тому

    You are great dear mathematician.. i wish to see some more topics in group theory like solvable group's , nilpotent group , normal series's and even module or galois theory too and we can make algebra playlist to more big

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl 2 роки тому

      It's galois theory

    • @dipsacedemy
      @dipsacedemy 2 роки тому

      @@Grassmpl yeah that what i mean. Thanks for correcting mine typo.

  • @user-uy7js5jn6x
    @user-uy7js5jn6x 7 років тому +3

    Can you talk about semi-direct product?
    plz

  • @guilhemescudero9114
    @guilhemescudero9114 5 років тому +2

    4:56 : two inverses :
    (-1, -3, -2) or (2, 2, 4)

    • @MuffinsAPlenty
      @MuffinsAPlenty 5 років тому +2

      In the group you're speaking of, (-1, -3, -2) = (2, 2, 4). :)

    • @badhbhchadh
      @badhbhchadh 5 років тому +1

      If you do it like that, you have infinitely many, but they are all identical.

    • @jonmolina948
      @jonmolina948 4 роки тому

      I think you're forgetting (8, 7, 10) and (-7, -13, -14). She might as well give the short lecture on equivalence classes.

    • @guilhemescudero9114
      @guilhemescudero9114 4 роки тому

      ​@@MuffinsAPlenty yes it was implicit in my mind, I should have written this ;)

    • @guilhemescudero9114
      @guilhemescudero9114 4 роки тому

      ​@@jonmolina948 ((8,7,10) is the same as ( (2 = 8 / 3ℤ), (2 = 7 / 5ℤ), (4 = 10 / 6ℤ) ) so it seems that: ( (2 ≣ 2 + 3ℤ), (2 ≣ 2 + 5ℤ), (4 ≣ 4 + 6ℤ) ) then we can write ( ( (k ≣ k + 3ℤ), (l ≣ l + 5ℤ), (m ≣ m + 6ℤ) ) with k, l, m ∈ ℤ .
      So all the inverses of (1, 3, 2) can be written as ( (2 + 3ℤ), ( 2 + 5ℤ), ( 4 + 6ℤ ) ) isn't it?
      What are equivalence classes?

  • @descuddlebat
    @descuddlebat 4 роки тому

    Inspired by a comment about introducing lcm: I believe (n mod 3, n mod 5, n mod 6) for the same n would form a normal subgroup of 30 elements with cosets (n mod 3, n mod 5, (n+1) mod 6) and (n mod 3, n mod 5, (n+2) mod 6), and these three sets would form a quotient group, so that would say something new about the group Z/3Z x Z/5Z x Z/6Z, would that be right?

  • @RAJSINGH-of9iy
    @RAJSINGH-of9iy 2 роки тому +1

    At 4:55, ans is (2,2,4)

  • @cameronspalding9792
    @cameronspalding9792 3 роки тому

    Can I ask: if you break up a group into simple groups using the Jordan Holder theorem, how do you recombine them to get back to the original group

  • @saurabhsingh-ow7ue
    @saurabhsingh-ow7ue 3 роки тому

    thank you madam.....

  • @bobbiemarkwick4417
    @bobbiemarkwick4417 6 років тому

    Exception to infinite number of finite groups: if all but a finite number of groups are the trivial group of the identity.

  • @GelidGanef
    @GelidGanef 7 років тому

    So when we say you can factor groups like you can factor numbers into primes...
    What we're really saying is that there exist an infinite number of unique groups, defined as the powers of some prime under multiplication. And that the direct product of this infinite number of groups is isomorphic to the rationals under multiplication.

  • @markmathman
    @markmathman 5 років тому +1

    The elements of the quotient group Z/3Z and of Z sub 3 are confused (time mark 4:38)

  • @dhruvprajapati9036
    @dhruvprajapati9036 2 роки тому

    This is the best video

  • @imranahmad7393
    @imranahmad7393 5 років тому

    Thanks mam

  • @meenakshisingh4195
    @meenakshisingh4195 7 років тому

    please upload sylow theorem

  • @HDQuote
    @HDQuote 4 роки тому +8

    this video reminds me of PBS Infinite series 🤔

  • @MarkLares
    @MarkLares Рік тому

    Can you help explain how you did the multiplication at time 6:11 (or point me to where it is explained)

  • @RurczakKurczak
    @RurczakKurczak 2 роки тому

    5:30 if we take a product of infinite trivial groups we get a trivial group, which is finite. So this statement is not always true.

  • @akarshroy4461
    @akarshroy4461 6 років тому

    Thanks mam ,,,,

  • @poulamikarmakar3759
    @poulamikarmakar3759 5 років тому +3

    Make some vdos on external and internal direct product of group... ??
    And what's the difference between them ??
    Pls reply

  • @bigstroker1300
    @bigstroker1300 Рік тому

    Which are the ways to piece together groups other than the direct product? i could not find those ways anywhere.

  • @user-wp1jn2zi9r
    @user-wp1jn2zi9r 6 років тому

    i want ask about the weak direct product
    I need to help thank you

  • @tarigmergani3903
    @tarigmergani3903 4 роки тому

    is all professor explain the way you do then only few would dislike math

  • @phooiseanchong1473
    @phooiseanchong1473 7 років тому

    It is really amazing video and I have learnt a lot. However, I have a question regarding the direct product of real numbers and symmetry group S3, why the a=(2 3) and b=(1 2) can operate under the multiplication of symmetry group S3 since it contain two elements inside a and b which is different from the previous symmetry group video that contain 3 elements? Thank you very much and I love Socratica video so much! Hope can come out more Abstract linear algebra video ! :)

    • @kellyepperson6168
      @kellyepperson6168 7 років тому +1

      @Chong (tried to explain one way to Dana Hill above will try another way with you - hopefully you both see and at least one makes sense to either one - maybe both :))
      a = (2 3) is cycle notation and just means element 2 goes to element 3, element 3 loops back to element 2, and element 1 stays fixed. So (x y z) would go to (x z y) or using numbers (1 2 3) goes to (1 3 2)
      b = (1 2) means 1 goes to 2, 2 goes back to 1 and 3 stays fixed. (x y z) goes to (y x z) or (1 2 3) goes to (2 1 3)
      a*b means b first (x y z) goes to (y x z) then a takes (y x z) to (y z x) or (xyz) goes to (yzx) which if we write that in cycle notation (1 3 2) = element 1 goes to element 3, element 3 goes to element 2, element 2 goes to element 1
      b*a means a first (x y z) goes to (x z y), then b takes (x z y) to (z x y) or (xyz) goes to (zxy). In cycle notation (1 2 3)
      Again the (2 3) and (1 2) are not elements of the Sn group, just a way to write how the permutation happens - what it does. Just like the products (1 2 3) and (1 3 2) are not elements of Sn but are just how the permutation happens (1 2 3) = element 1 moves to the element 2 spot, element 2 moves to the element 3 spot and the element 3 spot loops back to the element 1 spot.

    • @bhagabansharma5433
      @bhagabansharma5433 5 років тому

      The product of (2 3)and (1 2) is nothing but the product of two cycle

  • @markmathman
    @markmathman 5 років тому

    The curly braces are incorrectly positioned (time mark 3:23 out of 8:54).

  •  4 роки тому

    5:30 Technically if you took a direct product of a finite number of finite groups and infinite number of groups of order 1 (with just a single element, namely identity element) you'd still get a finite group, right?
    I know it's a corner case but still :D

  • @jayashree.j1777
    @jayashree.j1777 6 років тому

    extremely useful... tq so much... can u plz upload real analysis videos too? i wil b really useful plz plz plz

    • @Grassmpl
      @Grassmpl 2 роки тому +1

      Know your limits buddy. Also practice your epsilon delta proofs.

  • @DanaLea57
    @DanaLea57 7 років тому +9

    I'm confused. at 6:05(ish) you said a=(2,3) and b=(1,2)... don't all members of Sn have three parts? Where's the one in a and the three in b? And you multiplied two 2-tuples and got a 3-tuple, how's that work?

    • @kellyepperson6168
      @kellyepperson6168 7 років тому +25

      @Dana Hill
      Yes, All members of Sn have 3 parts. The example uses something called "cycle notation." A couple of good youtubes on that - but in short the notation just follows where the number goes as you cycle through the elements in the parenthesis and then back to the first element. In other words [ a = (2 3) ] means a permutation where 2 goes to 3, 3 goes back to 2 with 1 staying fixed. b = (1 2) means 1 goes to 2 and 2 goes back to 1 while 3 stays fixed. So doing multiplication or rather the composition of a*b we just determine where a number ends up. So let's start with 1 in Sn =(1 ? ?) and then the second element (?) is where we end up. Do b = (1 2) first, so (1 goes to 2) and then to see where 2 goes we look at a = (2 3) and see (2 goes to 3) so a*b takes 1 to 3. In cycle notation we write 1 goes to 3 as (1 3 ?). Now let's see where 3 goes? b (3 stays fixed) and then a (3 goes to 2) so a*b takes 3 to 2 and we write that in the final as (1 3 2) -- (1 goes to 3 goes to 2)
      Now for b*a (1 ? ? ): a leaves 1 fixed and b takes 1 to 2, so b*a takes 1 to 2 = (1 2 ?). then for the final element a takes 2 to 3 and b leaves 3 fixed so b*a takes 2 to 3, so we write (1 2 3) - (1 goes to 2 goes to 3)

    • @DanaLea57
      @DanaLea57 7 років тому +1

      ok

    • @missingno9
      @missingno9 6 років тому

      Thanks for that!
      Maybe they should have a note about that, maybe a link to another video about it.

    • @RoyalH3iR
      @RoyalH3iR 6 років тому +2

      a keeps 1 fixed so it is omitted and b keeps 3 fixed so it is also omitted in o/w it would be a=(23)(1), b=(12)(3)

    • @avishkadhananjaya6964
      @avishkadhananjaya6964 5 років тому

      thank you for this thing

  • @phyziks878
    @phyziks878 2 роки тому +1

    (12 , -I) inv (-12 , i)

  • @michaellangan5991
    @michaellangan5991 6 років тому

    You say there are no restrictions on the groups, but do they both have to be the same multiplication? For instance can G1 be mod20 and G2 = mod3?

    • @michaellangan5991
      @michaellangan5991 6 років тому

      Asked before I finished the video... So, to answer my own question... No, there can be different group operations when using the direct product :) Great videos, thank you!!!!!

  • @randomdude9135
    @randomdude9135 4 роки тому

    What do you mean by finitely generated?

  • @zakirullahbzt
    @zakirullahbzt 3 роки тому

    Okay mam can you tell us Cn×Cm is isomorphic to Cnm

  • @voiceofnation7493
    @voiceofnation7493 6 років тому

    Sorry For my Question, But Y Would Somebody Thinks Of Making More Greater Or Complex Groups??!! N What Is The Aim Behind It..??

  • @atifali8328
    @atifali8328 3 роки тому

    Brilliant mam

  • @huttarl
    @huttarl Рік тому +1

    At 5:37 the video says that if you take the direct product of an infinite number of finite groups, you get an infinite group. Surely this is only the case if an infinite number of those groups are non-trivial? Maybe that goes without saying, but I wanted to check. For example, if you took the direct product of the integers mod 3, with an infinite number of groups of order 1, you would get a group of order 3, right? Not an infinite group.

  • @mathonline6013
    @mathonline6013 4 роки тому

    Mam will you find direct product product of A3 and S3 ? For me

  • @shreeschoolofmathematics2711
    @shreeschoolofmathematics2711 3 роки тому

    👌

  • @Bharat_Rohan
    @Bharat_Rohan 4 місяці тому

    8:03 simpler groups mean referring to cyclic groups not simple groups right!