The Ming dynasty generals from China taught the Koreans sword and hand-to-hand techniques during the Imjin War and most of the techniques were designed by General Qi Jiguang who famously defeated the Japanese pirates through the 1550s and 1560s. During the Imjin War, there was a samurai named "Sayaka" a Japanese general who defected to Korea during the Imjin War. So he fought against Hideyoshi military. After the war, he and his soldiers were granted titles and permanent Korean names by the King of Korea. So those samurai that defected and including the captured ones by the Korean military actually stayed in Korea. They taught the Korean military sword techniques. Those descendants are still around today estimating about 200,000 descendants, one of them is a politician, the other is a K-pop idol and the last is a retired actor. Their clan name goes by Urok Kim. Urok is an area in South Korea and that is where they were living back in the day. Sayaka the former Japanese general new name is Kim Chung-seon 김충선.
I think the similarities to Japanese and Chinese swordsmanship is not a matter of divisiveness, but of unity. I think participants of sword arts, whether directly transmitted or more recently re-innovated from traditions, can have dialogue, friendship and encouragement. If stubbornness or arrogance continue, then it is out of step and outside the spirit of martial arts - in which case, direct descendent or not, it has lost its place.
@@cruzkerby5100 The Ming dynasty generals from China taught the Koreans sword and hand-to-hand techniques during the Imjin War and most of the techniques were designed by General Qi Jiguang who famously defeated the Japanese pirates through the 1550s and 1560s. During the Imjin War, there was a samurai named "Sayaka" a Japanese general who defected to Korea during the Imjin War. So he fought against Hideyoshi military. After the war, he and his soldiers were granted titles and permanent Korean names by the King of Korea. So those samurai that defected and including the captured ones by the Korean military actually stayed in Korea. They taught the Korean military sword techniques. Those descendants are still around today estimating about 200,000 descendants, one of them is a politician, the other is a K-pop idol and the last is a retired actor. Their clan name goes by Urok Kim. Urok is an area in South Korea and that is where they were living back in the day. Sayaka the former Japanese general new name is Kim Chung-seon.
au contraire mr enushisama, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Your seemingly personal vendetta against haidong gumdo shows instead, that you have "profound jealousy" that haidong gumdo is becoming more widespread.
Kumdo, however, does have Japanese roots, but not solely. The Japanese occupation created opportunity for Koreans to participate and learn Japanese sword (dissimilar to modern Kendo). Korean sword art already existed, and their juxtaposition between China, Mongolia and Japan allowed them to have a fusion towards their approach to martial arts. The Korean peninsula positioned them to receive and transmit along different lines of commerce, invention and culture. Similar elsewhere is no wonder.
maybe koreans only used curved swords, but not the samurai art. but when they found these artifacts, they started to claim the samurai. samurai is not only combative art, it is a way of life.
You certainly make a valid point about variability and communicability of culture. But historical legitimacy and accuracy are important especially for practitioners of ancient arts who after all have to rely extensively on knowledge and experience transmitted from the past. Receptivity to change and "otherness" is a no-no to practitioners of ancient arts, for the obvious reason that their main purposes in training are preservation and emulation of the old ways, rather than renovation.
In modern Korean language, Wae does not mean Japan, but it does mean outside, but the meaning is dependent upon the Chinese character. Historically and archaeologically speaking, the Korean version of this sort of sword pre-dates that of Japanese one, however, the Japanese version is superior having made the blade and the handle longer (two hand grip) with superior blade integrity due to better methodology in smithing techniques. The Korean one edged, saber-like blade was one handed and short.
Everytime I search Korean traditional stuff people complain about them copying Japanese. It's like how come German full plate armour is similar looking to Italians. The germans must be copying. The two countries are near to each other some things are gonna get mixed.
Actually Muye Dobo Tongji mentionned swords as "Wae Gum" (Sword from Japan); To me , the sword is clearly from Japanese inspiration , but the way of using it have absolutly nothing to see with Kenjutsu, and is closer to Chinese way of moving. Being a practitionner of Kenjutsu, I've tested seminar of Haidong with the European Headmaster and found nothing commun in the art himself (the dress is clearly inspired from Japan as for Taekwondo)
According to Korean history, Koreans pushed out invaders from their land again and again. They faced the Chinese, Mongols and Japanese. How did they accomplish this for hundreds of years without martial arts in the sword and various military weapons and strategies? Really spicy kimchi? It is not a stretch to consider that Japan, which is responsible for the destruction and theft of thousands of Korean historical documents, had also shaped history on paper to their liking along the way.
That's old Japan. I'd like to believe that today's Japan has thrown away the need to bend the truth of Asian history and has turned a new page to write a story of cordial participation and kind cooperation with its nearest neighbors and the international community at large. Only a minority within the elder generation clings to a type of patriotism that will not accept Japan has made an error or hurt in the past. The new generation is burdened by a responsibility beyond borders. Do you agree?
It's Gumdo's version of Horse Stance. Since you have both hands on the sword you can't hold on to the reigns of the imaginary horse, so you need to grip it with your knees.
Thanks for sharing this helpful video, Haedong 🙏
Thank you so much for putting up this video! I just started Haidong Gumdo yesterday, and this helps me learn the basics very much! Thank you! :)
thanks for putting this up. I have not taken gumdo for many years and forgot this routine. HAIDONG!!
The Ming dynasty generals from China taught the Koreans sword and hand-to-hand techniques during the Imjin War and most of the techniques were designed by General Qi Jiguang who famously defeated the Japanese pirates through the 1550s and 1560s. During the Imjin War, there was a samurai named "Sayaka" a Japanese general who defected to Korea during the Imjin War. So he fought against Hideyoshi military. After the war, he and his soldiers were granted titles and permanent Korean names by the King of Korea. So those samurai that defected and including the captured ones by the Korean military actually stayed in Korea. They taught the Korean military sword techniques. Those descendants are still around today estimating about 200,000 descendants, one of them is a politician, the other is a K-pop idol and the last is a retired actor. Their clan name goes by Urok Kim. Urok is an area in South Korea and that is where they were living back in the day. Sayaka the former Japanese general new name is Kim Chung-seon 김충선.
I think the similarities to Japanese and Chinese swordsmanship is not a matter of divisiveness, but of unity. I think participants of sword arts, whether directly transmitted or more recently re-innovated from traditions, can have dialogue, friendship and encouragement. If stubbornness or arrogance continue, then it is out of step and outside the spirit of martial arts - in which case, direct descendent or not, it has lost its place.
This is Chinese? i thought it was korean
@@cruzkerby5100 The Ming dynasty generals from China taught the Koreans sword and hand-to-hand techniques during the Imjin War and most of the techniques were designed by General Qi Jiguang who famously defeated the Japanese pirates through the 1550s and 1560s. During the Imjin War, there was a samurai named "Sayaka" a Japanese general who defected to Korea during the Imjin War. So he fought against Hideyoshi military. After the war, he and his soldiers were granted titles and permanent Korean names by the King of Korea. So those samurai that defected and including the captured ones by the Korean military actually stayed in Korea. They taught the Korean military sword techniques. Those descendants are still around today estimating about 200,000 descendants, one of them is a politician, the other is a K-pop idol and the last is a retired actor. Their clan name goes by Urok Kim. Urok is an area in South Korea and that is where they were living back in the day. Sayaka the former Japanese general new name is Kim Chung-seon.
au contraire mr enushisama, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Your seemingly personal vendetta against haidong gumdo shows instead, that you have "profound jealousy" that haidong gumdo is becoming more widespread.
thank you!!!
I am doing Haidong Gumdo now
and I have just past for the yellow-belt-test
Thanks for posting it is very helpful
anyone knows what happen with this grandmaster and his federation?
Kumdo, however, does have Japanese roots, but not solely. The Japanese occupation created opportunity for Koreans to participate and learn Japanese sword (dissimilar to modern Kendo). Korean sword art already existed, and their juxtaposition between China, Mongolia and Japan allowed them to have a fusion towards their approach to martial arts. The Korean peninsula positioned them to receive and transmit along different lines of commerce, invention and culture. Similar elsewhere is no wonder.
maybe koreans only used curved swords, but not the samurai art. but when they found these artifacts, they started to claim the samurai. samurai is not only combative art, it is a way of life.
just away most samurai were corrupt nobles who mistreated the poor.
You certainly make a valid point about variability and communicability of culture. But historical legitimacy and accuracy are important especially for practitioners of ancient arts who after all have to rely extensively on knowledge and experience transmitted from the past. Receptivity to change and "otherness" is a no-no to practitioners of ancient arts, for the obvious reason that their main purposes in training are preservation and emulation of the old ways, rather than renovation.
In modern Korean language, Wae does not mean Japan, but it does mean outside, but the meaning is dependent upon the Chinese character. Historically and archaeologically speaking, the Korean version of this sort of sword pre-dates that of Japanese one, however, the Japanese version is superior having made the blade and the handle longer (two hand grip) with superior blade integrity due to better methodology in smithing techniques. The Korean one edged, saber-like blade was one handed and short.
Everytime I search Korean traditional stuff people complain about them copying Japanese. It's like how come German full plate armour is similar looking to Italians. The germans must be copying. The two countries are near to each other some things are gonna get mixed.
Is that Master Andy Kim?
Actually Muye Dobo Tongji mentionned swords as "Wae Gum" (Sword from Japan); To me , the sword is clearly from Japanese inspiration , but the way of using it have absolutly nothing to see with Kenjutsu, and is closer to Chinese way of moving. Being a practitionner of Kenjutsu, I've tested seminar of Haidong with the European Headmaster and found nothing commun in the art himself (the dress is clearly inspired from Japan as for Taekwondo)
the guard should be over the head for down cuts. and your arm positioning is off.
Haters... LOL!
@xxXAznxGirlXxx You are entitled to your opinion, since even masters still learn :)
I want to know!
he knows his stuff, but kinda needs work on somethings
hes kinda stiff and needs to work on the stances
(my opinion, cause i take lessons too)
According to Korean history, Koreans pushed out invaders from their land again and again. They faced the Chinese, Mongols and Japanese. How did they accomplish this for hundreds of years without martial arts in the sword and various military weapons and strategies? Really spicy kimchi? It is not a stretch to consider that Japan, which is responsible for the destruction and theft of thousands of Korean historical documents, had also shaped history on paper to their liking along the way.
Different Masters, different Basics. It is not the same as Master Lee s basic forms. Difficult. :-(
I think this video isn´t about Kibon Kumbop it´s only about the basic movements
That's old Japan. I'd like to believe that today's Japan has thrown away the need to bend the truth of Asian history and has turned a new page to write a story of cordial participation and kind cooperation with its nearest neighbors and the international community at large. Only a minority within the elder generation clings to a type of patriotism that will not accept Japan has made an error or hurt in the past. The new generation is burdened by a responsibility beyond borders. Do you agree?
You are not haidong húmedo sir.
The posture of the legs seems awkward and unpractical.
+Roque Hernandez It's so you don't cut your knees off after a follow through or if you make a mistake. Keeps them out of your strike angle.
its actually so you can turn better
It's Gumdo's version of Horse Stance. Since you have both hands on the sword you can't hold on to the reigns of the imaginary horse, so you need to grip it with your knees.
kendo= the fake sword fighting....