To be honest llama you need to put a little bit more strategy to duels as Necro, it's like speedrunning there are decisions made based on outcome, difference is that on duels with Necro you can direct the output to make a decision based on an already made up outcome... What I mean: 1st position your self south from your opponent, that gives you more screen view, 2nd mine a side, lets say left from your opponent with spirits, then use spear poiting right to the opponent not directly to him to force him go left, he will meet the spirits and get damage. Thats one strategy out of... well a few more... when using spear use the "3 spears" technique, left then right then middle, meaning don't point to your opponent if you shoot he will move shoot to his landing position not his actual position, going left right middle of him you confuse him... and finally... use Teeth it's your MAIN attack more so against an Enigma user, well back in my days of duels in the server that I played Enigma was forbidden for Duels cause well... its more fun without it for sure more strategic and less caotic.
Wich strategy?All you have to do as a bs necro(and Ive been dueling him years and years back in the day) is teleporting everywhere and spamming your bone spirit.0 strategy needed,just like the hammerdin they are both braindead.If you use a summon necro then we can talk about strategy(jailing them then tele stomp with amplify dmg).
@@alpe6228 Exactly, like I said back in the day when I played in a pvp competitive server with tournaments necro vs necro, all vs all, 3 vs 3, etc... Enigma was prohibited for that exact reason, and for that exact reason Enigma is nerfed everywhere besides official server... yet with strategy I can rekt an Enigma Necro with a Necro with Stealth...
@@x4an0n and without potions of any kind... using even mana potions is detrimental to strategy and build theorycrafting I would make a PvP necro maybe and will see but I tell you I have already killed dozens of Enigma necros only with Teeth
They didnt really so other than random spam. No stomps, chain locks etc. Its not always like this. Necro is just really rough for paladin, so cooley had to play passive.
sounds good to me. I just hope they made it so paladins aren't healed by 53k lightning with conviction aura on and all the -res gear... it's a ridiculously one sided... hammer-din with desynch charge vs the rest of us lol
I love Enigma for PvM but honestly? I am much more a fan of good old LLD's instead of endgame PvP --- Low Level Duelists have to really plan their build and gear out for maximum effect and there's no drawn out fights on account of zooming around at Mach 2 via tele spam lol. GGs nonethless Llama, good to see ya flex a bit with PvP
the game is too big, without teleport the game would be so boring. if you don’t want everyone to just play sorc, enigma is necessary. and it’s expensive enough to make it a sought after item so it’s not like everyone is just teleporting around
Teleport ruins PVP and the whole game honestly. Teleporting needs a 5 second hard cooldown on the enigma. If you're a wizard it needs a two-second hard cooldown.
Teleport is a necessary evil. Pvm is a must for very obvious reasons the game would've died without it. For pvp if you don't have quick teleport then the balance would be ruined because of other skills like bone wall. Fixing this would require a separate mode and map for pvp and is more than this game will ever get. Like setting up arenas with accurate matchmaking and giving you options to change rules of individual pvp matches.
I used to duel with a summon Necro for fun every once in a while, cause when you tele the summons all got stuck around you, then you teleport right on top of a barb and he insta pops. of course the bowazon swaps to tgods jav and one shots me right after with penetrate 🤣🤣🤣
Today I thought of a cool idea what if set items were able to go ethereal and indestructible with a cube recipe. Also have a variable add enhanced damage or defense like 50-100.
People teleporting across a map hitting eachother once every 7 seconds is so boring to me. They should have no-enigma pvp servers, take it back to the old school
It's definitely not a favorable fight, but it's still playable. At least in high level duels having Enigma allows you to play around the mistakes of positioning, if the opponent is too passive or too aggressive, you have to see the opportunities. But in low level duels (49/30/...) it's painful for the necro.
I've always loved pvm diablo. I had to stop like a minute in this is hella boring. or am i missing something? everyone just teleporting and spamming spells without hitting anything. Seems...weird lol. But if yall enjoy it thats cool
![Let's Play Diablo 2 Resurrected | Hammerdin Guided Playthrough [Pt Normal]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EqLHSVwwnbo/mqdefault.jpg)
I think we need a catch match...
the crossover the d2 community needed.
Now Llama gotta invite cooley into a speedrun see how he fuck it up XD
"shut up bitch, shut up" it's a new song I wrote, you like it? thank you
@@tbpopje lmfao yea
A teleport simulation
I'm not an Enigma hater for PvM, but for PvP it's pure agony.
if you dont have enigma, no one can touch bone prison/wall necromancer (not include sorc)
@@NeloGTz also baba can scape easily using ww
Enigma is what makes PvP balanced, you're such a fucking scrub. lol
@@EXTREMA_DERECHA ya in gm duels. Pub it up and cast IM on the barb and let him try it
Wait till a lvl 30 wind druid swaps to a tele staff and rips your face off, god lld is fun
if you get into PVP, that will bring more attention to it
PVP is the real end game of D2
No it's not, it's a fun side game and has been for 20 years.
@Jean-Claude Legault your mom's got weird nipples
We need the heartrate monitor for duels 😆
This. Lets seperate the men from the boys.
This is riveting stuff.........
Like watching grass grow.
or like fastening sheets of metal together with rivets as a day job
As opposed to watching llama get lvl 99 rofl or speed run act 1 again
Like your life.
🤩This was like the Super Bowl of Diablo UA-camrs
I'd happily make halftime commercials for this
I've never seen MrLamaSC so scared before
Big Applaud for puttin your pvp balls on the table!
To be honest llama you need to put a little bit more strategy to duels as Necro, it's like speedrunning there are decisions made based on outcome, difference is that on duels with Necro you can direct the output to make a decision based on an already made up outcome... What I mean: 1st position your self south from your opponent, that gives you more screen view, 2nd mine a side, lets say left from your opponent with spirits, then use spear poiting right to the opponent not directly to him to force him go left, he will meet the spirits and get damage. Thats one strategy out of... well a few more... when using spear use the "3 spears" technique, left then right then middle, meaning don't point to your opponent if you shoot he will move shoot to his landing position not his actual position, going left right middle of him you confuse him... and finally... use Teeth it's your MAIN attack more so against an Enigma user, well back in my days of duels in the server that I played Enigma was forbidden for Duels cause well... its more fun without it for sure more strategic and less caotic.
Wich strategy?All you have to do as a bs necro(and Ive been dueling him years and years back in the day) is teleporting everywhere and spamming your bone spirit.0 strategy needed,just like the hammerdin they are both braindead.If you use a summon necro then we can talk about strategy(jailing them then tele stomp with amplify dmg).
@@alpe6228 Exactly, like I said back in the day when I played in a pvp competitive server with tournaments necro vs necro, all vs all, 3 vs 3, etc... Enigma was prohibited for that exact reason, and for that exact reason Enigma is nerfed everywhere besides official server... yet with strategy I can rekt an Enigma Necro with a Necro with Stealth...
@@agushex doubtful.
@@x4an0n and without potions of any kind... using even mana potions is detrimental to strategy and build theorycrafting I would make a PvP necro maybe and will see but I tell you I have already killed dozens of Enigma necros only with Teeth
@@agushex I remember killing those pvp hammerdin bots with teeth LOL
GDs that was fun. Coooley is a great D2 pvp youtuber
Keep doing PVP content with Cooley I will catch up with that every second
Two of my fav streamers, love it
I'm very impressed with how well Llama did. For someone who doesn't duel regularly, he sure performed.
lol huh?
TBH Teleport ruins everything about this games PVP, everyone just tping around like crazy its not fun to watch it must be horrible to play.
Hard disagree. I find it quite fun teleing around with my fire druid
Teleporting is the only thing that makes this game’s pvp so viable.
People who think tele is bad for the game are people who can’t play games very well.
Totally agree, this is just kind of dumb looking
I sorta think it screws up the entire game somewhat. I still have fun but I dunno it sorta pisses me off.
I thought Cooley might use his death pally build or his ranger
I think duels should be done with zero teleport except for sorc.
then sorc would be the only winner in any pvp fight lol
Teleport should be straight up removed from the game, its something that is just needed for everything its so overpowered.
No teleport for farming and noone Will play, we need a new map only for PVP where skills work diferent
imagine charge into bonewall/prison ?
Play classic then
Honestly I didn’t expect you to win it. Well done 👌
We need dbrunski vs llama now
God..that recast. Very intense duels
duels were much better back in the day without enigma this is just teleport simulator and hope you can eventually hit ur opponent a couple times
is it just me or is pvp 10 times better without enigma?
You right
The power of low level duels and thinking those characters out
They didnt really so other than random spam. No stomps, chain locks etc. Its not always like this. Necro is just really rough for paladin, so cooley had to play passive.
Duels without enigma doesnt require any skill most of the times.
@@lkajdklajscklj2112 classic duels confirm this lol
imagine no minimap, no enigma dueling.
sounds good to me. I just hope they made it so paladins aren't healed by 53k lightning with conviction aura on and all the -res gear... it's a ridiculously one sided... hammer-din with desynch charge vs the rest of us lol
The duels were rough... but yall were having fun with it which helps.
I don't love mana pools, but they seem to be standard now so meh
y'all should really ban teleport in duels, it's lame as fuck.
Cooley is à pvp Master!! You deserve the victory for sure... what skills are
Yeah, tele in PvP is a snoozefest.
Cooley is the man. Rooting for em hardcore lol. You’re the man too. But I’m all about his whiskey squad!
like watching 2 blind people in a gunfight. not a single stomp first 8 minutes in. im out.
Cooley is foh why the hell would he tele stomp? And llama isn’t a pvper
Nice, come in PvP Mister Llama. We need you there.
Dueling with Enigmas looks obnoxious as hell, but it's hilariously chaotic to watch.
This teleporting around in circles shit has to be the most boring PvP I've seen in my life.
Is this PVP or who can spam teleport faster ?
Can't find myself to do the new ladder. Takes so much time to level and get gear. Don't look forward to it at all
I love both of those guys. Everybody wins
I enjoyed seeing llama try out pvp! Personally think D2 PVP is a unique experience
id love to see a d2 event that was like an oldschool iron man but to lvl 49 or something with streamers on hc
This is good llama vs Cooley the 2 champs, llama make sure to switch to windowed and max out the wide screen
PvP in this game is a joke. I'm glad it requires the most ridiculous and expensive items to be competitive so that less people take it seriously.
I love Enigma for PvM but honestly? I am much more a fan of good old LLD's instead of endgame PvP --- Low Level Duelists have to really plan their build and gear out for maximum effect and there's no drawn out fights on account of zooming around at Mach 2 via tele spam lol. GGs nonethless Llama, good to see ya flex a bit with PvP
"Omnom oh god wait omnom a sec nom i need mana nomomnom"
Enigma ruined this game lol it’s a teleport battle. Looks like a Floyd mayweather fight. Run run run…
the game is too big, without teleport the game would be so boring. if you don’t want everyone to just play sorc, enigma is necessary. and it’s expensive enough to make it a sought after item so it’s not like everyone is just teleporting around
Way underated great comment 🤣🤣
That was pretty cool man, gg you guys
Teleport ruins PVP and the whole game honestly. Teleporting needs a 5 second hard cooldown on the enigma. If you're a wizard it needs a two-second hard cooldown.
But they can't sepárate skills from pvm to PVP. Unless they make a map or something just for PVP and skills work diferent
Teleport is the only reason there is pvp this game. It's literally the only way to balance the classes.
@@ambid123 lmao what a fucking dumb thing to say
D2 PVP is not balanced it never was
Teleport is what kept this game alive for 20 years. You're clueless
Teleport is a necessary evil. Pvm is a must for very obvious reasons the game would've died without it. For pvp if you don't have quick teleport then the balance would be ruined because of other skills like bone wall. Fixing this would require a separate mode and map for pvp and is more than this game will ever get. Like setting up arenas with accurate matchmaking and giving you options to change rules of individual pvp matches.
I think Lama eats 420 cookies
Cooley had a aim trick i tought it whas like aiming at his shoulder it works defenitly for smite
If you die in PvP the other guy gets your gear?
No just your gold you're carrying and your ear
Thought in pvp you weren't supposed to use any potions life or mana
you can use mana potions obviously
of course you can use mana lol,it would be pointless if you couldnt.
@@alpe6228 wouldn't say pointless would just say you'd have to gear differently and be more careful of skill spam
Cant believe i missed this ggs boys
I used to duel with a summon Necro for fun every once in a while, cause when you tele the summons all got stuck around you, then you teleport right on top of a barb and he insta pops. of course the bowazon swaps to tgods jav and one shots me right after with penetrate 🤣🤣🤣
More pvp content pls
The real D2R end game
ngl d2 duels feels like watching paint dry.
This pvp looks fun as Hell! ... I lied, this is trash :)
Commenting for the algorithm:)
Hey ur his counter... Try to play vs him if he is a smiter gonna be fun to watch
Just kidding I found what I was looking for❤️
Llama should remove Bone Spirit from his hotkeys. Its too easy to dodge with tele and no amount of spray & pray is going to help.
I love this
Today I thought of a cool idea what if set items were able to go ethereal and indestructible with a cube recipe. Also have a variable add enhanced damage or defense like 50-100.
Haha!! Go go! Get 'im!
People teleporting across a map hitting eachother once every 7 seconds is so boring to me. They should have no-enigma pvp servers, take it back to the old school
Good duels
Nec vs pal is a 9:1 matchup
Nice :D
And why do you have to chew on the mic? Damned
Love both of you but pvp with enigma is so boring to watch
If you thought pvm community had some toxicity, wait a few days of pvp..
watching d2 pvp makes me dizzy
woooot
Fecking diablo chess match lol
Duelling without enigma will be much more fun 🤷🏻♂️
duels are just boring af now
You have to have cta and else or you just get oneshotted and deal no dmg. Boring
Namelock and spam spear --> 💀
Hope that's vegan you smackning on
Gj llama
Wreck him Cooley
Try a controller and get auto namelocks
pretty boring when everyone can teleport
u guys will hate me for saying this , the pvp in this game looks so dumb
So THAT'S a duel in Diablo 2? Lol, no wonder I don't like them.
Gds
damn cooley got a lot better
all these non pvp people complaining about teleport. You haven't a clue, go kill mephisto for the billionth time and shut up.
Ok so high end pvp is dumb I see
Necro is not particularly good against pala in duels
It's definitely not a favorable fight, but it's still playable. At least in high level duels having Enigma allows you to play around the mistakes of positioning, if the opponent is too passive or too aggressive, you have to see the opportunities. But in low level duels (49/30/...) it's painful for the necro.
As Necro, Hammerdin is the best you can get. Is the easiest imo. I killed a lot just walking down and bone spear up when they teleport near you. GG
Necro is definedly one of the better classes againts paladin.
Stop using alt u loose namelock (pvm reflex lmao)
I love D2... but this looks dumb.
So much easier with a controller
teleport ruins pvp.....
I've always loved pvm diablo. I had to stop like a minute in this is hella boring. or am i missing something? everyone just teleporting and spamming spells without hitting anything. Seems...weird lol. But if yall enjoy it thats cool
It looks stupid and boring when everybody is teleporting
D2 PVP is still a joke, and boring to watch and play.
enigma ruins the game
This was difficult to watch.
poorely playd by lama he could just have used the spirit train and insta killed him every time but yet again only jhc pvper can pvp for real
Arent you the guy that got wrecked by team merc a 100 times?
@@alisaforster28691 no lol
@@YuanYamada yes you are. There a million videoa online on their account. What a loser do you have to be to denie that. Pathetic
Damn pvp is boring
This pvp is kinda stupid.
Two of the biggest newbs in d2 history dueling. Lol coooool. Not…