Things I dislike in Afton Family videos // Gacha Club

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  • @tainedclover
    @tainedclover  2 роки тому +531

    Would you guys like a part 2?

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 8 місяців тому +48

    Canonically compared to your au,
    Michael got a redemption arc which led to him correcting his dad's mistakes and freeing souls which led to him ending what he had become.
    But there is something always weird to me.
    Evan wasn't freed..
    In FNAF world he regains his memory based on the clock ending, which leads to him finding out everything and never really forgiving michael.

  • @deathbyduo
    @deathbyduo 2 роки тому +393

    I fully agree for the cassidy one! I think that people should recognise that Cassidy has every right to be angry at William and so do the other missing children!

    • @gilbertgoosey
      @gilbertgoosey 2 роки тому +44

      Yes! All the missing children are still children, as a gacha fnaf-tuber with many bottled up problems emotion and personality means a lot to me and I make sure to execute all my characters feelings and emotions nicely.

    • @pandalol7118
      @pandalol7118 2 роки тому +13

      she has every right to kill william. But not the poor night guards cmon poor guys just wanted to make so money and they got killed.

    • @deathbyduo
      @deathbyduo 2 роки тому +11

      @@pandalol7118 I think that the MC got the night guards mixed up for William or smth

    • @Mathivich
      @Mathivich Рік тому +5

      People And Their Gacha Au's don't make rational sense, in other words their "irrational", like how exactly do you get supernatural powers just by dying?

    • @cheeselizard
      @cheeselizard Рік тому +4

      @@pandalol7118 In UCN it's stated that most of the MC are 'unaware'. I think it's because of the agony, which affects them somehow? Also the animatronics may have been made to be violent at night because William.

  • @4TL4SZFL00FYZNS
    @4TL4SZFL00FYZNS Рік тому +21

    the missing children are actually just innocent souls that wandered away from the gates of heaven. being that william put them in the suits,the bodies were now fused with the animatronics skeletons,including their soul,and thanks to the animatronic intruder programming it affected their point of view towards others,meaning all they see a human as is a toy that is meant to be broken and ruined.second thing,in my au evan/c.c lost his memories of the past,but he still remembers what happened. but he doesn't see foxybro as michael,he just sees him as "fox boy" or "bully". so in theory he is a vengeful spirit but not towards the michael he sees.

  • @Thebananaqueen
    @Thebananaqueen Рік тому +214

    Saying Cassidy is bad and William is good is basically saying the police officer is worse then the criminal but with different words.

    • @Dollisticrying
      @Dollisticrying 7 місяців тому +5

      I've found you >:3

    • @Thebananaqueen
      @Thebananaqueen 7 місяців тому +2

      @@Dollisticrying HIII

    • @Dollisticrying
      @Dollisticrying 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Thebananaqueen bananananananananananan

    • @awesomewolf70
      @awesomewolf70 3 місяці тому +5

      In some places, the police can be worse than the criminals
      They’re called “corrupt cops”
      (I’m not meaning to offend anyone with this, because it’s not common to see a corrupt cop, but just letting you know they exist)

    • @fkisakm
      @fkisakm 3 місяці тому +3

      @@awesomewolf70 i'd doubt this person doesn't know that, but in this analogy it's looking simply on the role of the average officer and criminal. It's a safe bet to assume that. Not being rude either :D

  • @mikev1ctim864
    @mikev1ctim864 2 роки тому +201

    0:57
    i agree. in the survival logbook, he literally JOKES about the death. “he fell into freddy’s mouth, we had nothing to do with it.” Now he could have been talking about another incident or speaking from the company’s view, but still.

    • @mikev1ctim864
      @mikev1ctim864 2 роки тому +27

      @ghost let me rephrase if, i was writing it off of memory. he actually said (in response to freddy biting a kid) “he tripped and fell into freddy’s teeth, not our fault.”

    • @evanssmtkys
      @evanssmtkys 2 роки тому +10

      but in fnaf 4 he didn't apologize to c.c? Im very confused

    • @mikev1ctim864
      @mikev1ctim864 2 роки тому +20

      @@evanssmtkys he did. again, i’m just quoting this off fo memory so it may not be exact but it was something along the lines off “can you hear me? i’m so sorry.”

    • @evanssmtkys
      @evanssmtkys 2 роки тому +2

      @@mikev1ctim864 oh, I understand now

    • @RetroGamer02
      @RetroGamer02 2 роки тому +26

      @@mikev1ctim864 There on conflicting theories on if the Logbook is officially provided by Faz Ent. If it is then Michael probably wrote that in as the company would want him to answer. Even if the book isn't provided by Faz Ent it's likely that Michael wrote that to hide his pain about the bite.
      He apologizes to BV while he's in the hospital. Regardless while I dislike Mike being perceived as a flawless saint, I dislike Michael not changing or getting worse even more.
      There are indications that he's changed for the better. It's displayed in the games, the Logbook, & in the books that have characters that are parallels to Michael Afton. While making Michael a saint that did no wrong is bad having him not change at all & with little to no regrets i look is also not okay.

  • @nyabouchaffar7436
    @nyabouchaffar7436 2 роки тому +611

    About CC being a vengeful spirit, it's really a good concept. Especially if it touches on the topic of him being "the one you shouldn't have killed", but most of them tend to handle it poorly and make CC's motivations seem like a joke.

    • @r6slover505
      @r6slover505 2 роки тому +60

      Yeah agreed. It's a good premise but it's not executed well. Cause then it just makes him a unlikable character.

    • @wyatt778
      @wyatt778 2 роки тому +65

      Exactly, and on top of that they treat him like a second Cassidy, like stereotypical/bratty Cassidy. Or villainise him, like would you forgive your brother for tormenting you, making you cry everyday and then killing you afterwards, you not even knowing if it was truly an accident or not? Didn’t think so

    • @leighmiller356
      @leighmiller356 2 роки тому +5

      even tho William didn't kill him

    • @ateo7906
      @ateo7906 Рік тому +4

      @@leighmiller356 Or probably did if Will pulled the plug on him

    • @rubyfarr8831
      @rubyfarr8831 Рік тому +7

      I have made a alter AU where he is vengeful, but for a good reason.
      1 : he was placed a bit deeper in FredBear, crushing his vocal cords
      2 : Micheal bullied him physically
      3 : he lost some memory’s , and since Cassidy is more vengeful in this Au, he also became vengeful
      ( also an extra is I made Elizabeth vengeful)

  • @averysmelodyway
    @averysmelodyway 2 роки тому +67

    I can agree on the neon colors, how they make Michael the kind, innocent brother, and how people would make William being controlled from the glitch trap/malware (whatever you would call the suit) on how William was forced.

  • @bobatea3401
    @bobatea3401 10 місяців тому +10

    My headcanon for Michael is after he grew up, he has trust issues and he's not used to affection at all. And his game skin? I think that's what it is? The one where he looks like a low quality human in a game? Looks like he's been crying alot due to regretting what he did afterwards.

  • @im_bae6673
    @im_bae6673 2 роки тому +424

    You make very fair points and I agree with practically everything you said!
    Honestly to me it even got kind of hard to empathize with Michael in general because I kept seeing people making him seem like the victim and a saint, it bothered me so much I avoided seeing content about him.
    A flaw a bunch of people seem to have on the FNAF fandom is to put blame on the children. I've seen it with Cassidy, C.C and Gregory too. I just don't see how anyone can prioritize literal robots and killer's over actually traumatized children.
    On that note I've got to say that I love the idea of C.C as a vengeful spirit, not so enthusiastic about some of the executions of the idea but still a fan nonetheless. Since I also really dislike when C.C easily forgives Michael as if his death was nothing or, since Michael came to suffer a lot after, that invalidates C.C's suffering. That's simply a no to me.

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +15

      I agree 👍💯

    • @Astrid.DaCapo
      @Astrid.DaCapo 2 роки тому +31

      I watch those kinds of videos only to try to make myself cry, for entertainment or for more angst (feels good idk how 🤷‍♀) but I agree with you, sometimes the worst case is when the SECOND they teleport the C.C/B.V LITERALLY goes all « i fORgiVe yOU mIkeY wIkeY UWUWUWUWUWUWUWWUWU »
      and not even questions where in the world he is.

    • @im_bae6673
      @im_bae6673 2 роки тому +21

      @@Astrid.DaCapo I understand, I also enjoy watching/reading angst just for the feels it gives. Although I cannot make myself deal with cases like Michael's, I can understand focusing on one characters angst but to erase other people's pain for this character is regularly unbearable to me, though that may be because it's usually my favorite characters pain that is the one being ignored/defected. It has to be a REALLY good plot to make me go through it.
      Either way, I really wish people would atleast make C.C snap (it doesn't need to be violent, but emotional outbursts can be a way to open up) before resolving the conflict. Or maybe not resolving after all. After all regardless of C.C's death itself having been an accident Mike still inflicted a lot of damage on his little brother before that, so I don't think C.C is obligated to forgive him in any way.

    • @itsalliee-v
      @itsalliee-v 2 роки тому +7

      Ikr it annoys me that they make michael powerful then william

    • @Astrid.DaCapo
      @Astrid.DaCapo 2 роки тому +2

      @@itsalliee-v Yea
      *insert bucket of water *

  • @prettystars754
    @prettystars754 2 роки тому +266

    I literally hate people who try and make william seem like a misunderstood character. I told someone that william isn’t supposed to some character that you read into hes the villain. And they said that he’s misunderstood and that they are a “good person” who doesn’t point fingers at people for no reason, and called me heartless for thinking William deserves to go through hell. He killed innocent children for goodness sake.🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @mae4life527
      @mae4life527 2 роки тому +30

      RIGHT! Like him having truama is a reason why but it shouldn’t excuse him from it. And ppl ALWAYS gets it mix up. Honestly I try to avoid au like that cause it’s old an annoying.

    • @Juanitasnumberonefan
      @Juanitasnumberonefan 2 роки тому +1

      @@mae4life527 Yeah. NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, justifies murder.
      I mean at least that person deserved to die but ok🧍

    • @wowamazingwoah
      @wowamazingwoah Рік тому +18

      Yes. Let the antagonist be the antagonist. No questions asked, no excuses, no explanations required.

    • @mae4life527
      @mae4life527 Рік тому +6

      @@wowamazingwoah YESSS

    • @caitlxn
      @caitlxn Рік тому +4

      FRR

  • @DelphiBellatrixRiddle
    @DelphiBellatrixRiddle 7 місяців тому +7

    I guess the William one is very difficult to balance right. Giving him trauma and human emotions (which some call victimizing), especially at a young age, is just realistic. No one just one day decides to be an evil fuck, it's often a combination of trauma, mental problems and the right (or wrong) circumstances, both in real life and in fiction. I think the problem is that some people overdo it or think it justifies his actions (it doesn't, feeling sympathy and justifing murder aren't the same thing)

  • @plumcave9942
    @plumcave9942 2 роки тому +125

    I agree with everything said here. Even Michael, though to a different degree. I'll admit I've defended Michael on a number of occasions, even once in you're previous videos. But he's not some flawless being. Nor is he even remotely close to his father. People often accuse me of being a "Michael Stan" for defending him, but the reason I do it is because I sympathize with him. I was his age once, and I'm an older brother to two as well. I have a pretty shit dad (in prison for the second time, for the sexual assault of a minor) who wasn't very present and when he was around he manipulated me to get what he wanted, and sometimes I can be a jerk to my siblings. Of course I would NEVER even think about doing the things he did to Evan, in fact if I were to meet his younger self I'd beat the crap out of him if I could, and then I'd recommend him a Therapist I know, because as awful as the things he did where, he was still an idiot teenager, reeling from the loss of his sister and with an absolutely wretched father. From a scene from (midnight motorway I think it was called? The car mini game in pizza sim.) we can deduce that he really did care about his brother and was probably pretty decent to him before Elizabeth's disappearance. Add on the fact that the bite should've in fact been a harmless prank and was the fault of William, I think that the bad rep Mike has earned among many isn't that deserved. Of course, "innocent femboy Mike who never done anything wrong uwu" is also a sight I'd like to perge from my mind. After the bite, we lose track of Mike until sister location, where he goes of his own will after his father told him in a note to find his missing sister, and once he realized what had happened to her he kept returning, despite the obvious danger (he saw to workers hanging), to free his sister. And then he got worn as a fleshsuit. Afterwards, realizing his father was to blame for literally every single bad thing that had happened recently, Mike went on a quest to find and burn his father, putting a stop to his schemes, and fixing all the problems his father had made, freeing the souls of as many dead children as he could, including his brother (maybe, the Evan is Gregory thing is still up in the air). Honestly, if I was him and had just been corpsified, I don't think I be able to muster the will to do what he did. I don't think the majority of people would. I don't think he's perfect, nobody is, but I defintley think he's a stand up guy, because after the bite where never shown him not being a stand up guy. And after he finally finished what he set out to do, he burns in the fire of pizza Sim. (and maybe comes back as glam Freddy, in which case I don't even see why there's a debate, glam Freddy is best dad) Sorry, I rambled a bit there, but my point is that while I don't think he's perfect, I do beleive that he's a better person than even you seem to make him out to be, even if I agree with you.
    William Afton do be a b$@%! tho

    • @LaniusEatsMeat
      @LaniusEatsMeat 2 роки тому +15

      I also sympathize with Mike, but i always blame myself for doing it beacuse i think that i do it beacuse when a was younguer i saw those sh!t videos where people victimize him and i though that i was only sympatizing with him beacuse of that, maybe i keep doing it, but after reading this comment, maybe it wasn't just beacuse of those videos...

    • @LUN_A-tic899
      @LUN_A-tic899 Рік тому +3

      @@LaniusEatsMeat SAME people used to make Michael look like an ‘Angel’ he’s not! But bc ppl victimized Michael, I thought he was good and C.C was bad!

    • @williamvason1699
      @williamvason1699 Рік тому +1

      Sure michal is not saint tbh nobody in the afton family is. Saint and michal afton action when younger is not exscuse although william or nodody did anything to stop michal form bully cc and michl didint rlly have that type of loving family no one to tell him right form wrong. His death was definitely karma so i say it equal now

    • @kskerlake1284
      @kskerlake1284 Рік тому +1

      I‘m so sorry that you and your siblings have to go through such a horrible experience.
      And yes, I agree with what you said. Michael was an idiot teenager, he does know what he does is wrong, but he still does it.
      Michael has probably matured now and became some sort of, well, maybe more better person than he was before. Maybe he lost his bullying tendencies and became vengeful to William. He can maybe still hate C.C. a tiny bit because of all of the guilt and hate he got after causing C.C.‘s death.

  • @PinkLemonadeCheeseCake
    @PinkLemonadeCheeseCake 2 роки тому +33

    For the last one, i always get confused with Hazel, Natsumi and Natsu. Many people copy there exact character designs and claim it as theirs. Its so annoyingggg

    • @tainedclover
      @tainedclover  2 роки тому +8

      Funny enough that’s what I was thinking of while making that statement 😅

  • @AUBREY-ml4ex
    @AUBREY-ml4ex 2 роки тому +108

    Y'know what I'd like to see? A "vengeful" CC who's not mad at Michael, maybe upset, but he's moreso scared of him. I think that would be interesting. I haven't seen that a lot for some reason, and I think it has some great potential for an au. I mean, he was a scared kid who couldn't confront his brother for the life of him, who's saying he changed?

    • @gilbertgoosey
      @gilbertgoosey 2 роки тому +11

      Exactly!

    • @LaniusEatsMeat
      @LaniusEatsMeat 2 роки тому +11

      Actually Nina'sAU (yes that's her name) make this in her recents videos, ofc in the olds it was different, but now her Crying Child is like this.

    • @LaniusEatsMeat
      @LaniusEatsMeat 2 роки тому +2

      @@gilbertgoosey gOre?
      oh oh

    • @brendonhenrique6653
      @brendonhenrique6653 2 роки тому +3

      @@LaniusEatsMeat do you have her channel..?

    • @dazaioioi
      @dazaioioi Рік тому +2

      I might just do that !

  • @vickyxx_fnaf
    @vickyxx_fnaf 2 роки тому +17

    This is so true bro, before in 2020 aftons to 2022 ppl still make micheal a saint basically making videos like "aftons react to micheal getting abused" and stuff like that saying he deserves better even though he traumatized cc, yes he was treated wrong by william but still his actions is worse

  • @marionette8739
    @marionette8739 2 роки тому +74

    I found myself largely agreeing on most points, though I personally think a Vengeful Crying Child is a matter of characterization and stylistic choice for how they want character interaction to go down, although I can agree that the average execution of Vengeful!CC *does* rather tend to fall flat, usually due to shallow writing or characterization, like they thought of the character trait, but neglected to come up with both a motivation for why it went that way, or how to integrate that change.
    Still, I tend to get the impression that they're novice writers, anyway, and so either I just write off as a bad job and move on, or else give feedback on how and why something is being negatively received, and offer some tips, as one novice to another.
    Great video; really resonated with me.

  • @Candjstudios2024
    @Candjstudios2024 10 місяців тому +7

    My Cassidy isn't evil. She's just too far gone to realize that what she's doing isn't helping the situation. She's just angry to the point of manipulating the others.

  • @JustToshaa
    @JustToshaa 2 роки тому +39

    I actually do agree with everything. I love how you perfectly understand fnaf, character's personalities and effort you put in your videos. Keep up amazing work💗‼️

  • @TengryEmily1982
    @TengryEmily1982 4 місяці тому +7

    2:17 I really like the concept of "Vengeful CC", but rather as a synonym for "FollowVictim" and whoever gives nightmares to Michael in FNaF 1 or in general. He doesn't have to be like Cassidy, more like just stalking after his death. But I don't rule out the possibility that he's still a scared and lost spirit

  • @BELISANII
    @BELISANII 2 роки тому +589

    I HATE when people make Micheal afton seem like some kind of saint when he’s not what he did will never be ok, same with William. I full on agree with you.

    • @Astrid.DaCapo
      @Astrid.DaCapo 2 роки тому +15

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      jk jk jk jk jk dont attak me please Ill change my AU

    • @gilbertgoosey
      @gilbertgoosey 2 роки тому +53

      He probably changed after that traumatic experience, but REGARDLESS trauma doesn’t mean anything. He would had to be a bad person to torment his own younger brother.

    • @Soulless_Fredvictim
      @Soulless_Fredvictim 2 роки тому +45

      I hate how they make him such a softie who's incapable of doing anything without *eNnArD!!1!1!!1*

    • @l.c.7955
      @l.c.7955 2 роки тому +5

      i mean i ki da disagre this is what i think also bccc like .y fav-

    • @denisaiova3344
      @denisaiova3344 2 роки тому +15

      @@l.c.7955 what? Did u have a stroke

  • @arcticwolflover263
    @arcticwolflover263 2 роки тому +8

    i dont like how they make fritz a brat in some aus hes a kid he would be angry at william and untrusting towards him after killing him children natrualy become fearful or hateful towards someone who has wronged them

  • @mae4life527
    @mae4life527 2 роки тому +15

    OMG YES YES AND YES. Especially for the first two. Ppl get confuse that trauma is a reason not an excuse of being a horrible person. And seeing a “perfect” micheal that can’t do wrong is annoying and not a character at all. I agree with everything. Love video 💕

  • @Jayisgayfr
    @Jayisgayfr Рік тому +330

    I hate it, when they make william simping over mrs. Afton.

    • @sedra9076
      @sedra9076 Рік тому +30

      Same it gets over used

    • @KurO_playz_J-fan
      @KurO_playz_J-fan Рік тому +15

      @@sedra9076it’s only in a few aus..?

    • @sedra9076
      @sedra9076 Рік тому +25

      @@KurO_playz_J-fan well there are many people still doing this and just copy it

    • @KurO_playz_J-fan
      @KurO_playz_J-fan Рік тому +18

      @@sedra9076 it’s mostly for humor

    • @Dusk_tilldawn1
      @Dusk_tilldawn1 6 місяців тому +25

      How tf do you hate it? I honestly love those aus

  • @rafar8311
    @rafar8311 Рік тому +11

    I hate how people purposely make Mrs Afton evil and abusive to Michael just so William can come in and be the 'savior' and stuff to make him 'innocent' and justify his actions

  • @misspillow3
    @misspillow3 2 роки тому +24

    I agree.
    Even tho I love William, I’ll say that he is not a good guy. And I do agree that trauma doesn’t give you an excuse to inflict it on others.
    For Michael, it annoys the hell out of me when people make him a saint. Like you said, the bite was an accident, but the torment wasn’t. He did that on purpose and by his own will. Not because he “didn’t get enough attention” or “his friends forced him.”
    A lot of people make CC vengeful towards William but not Michael. That makes no sense to me. I know that in some au’s, William made the Fredbear plan thing. But when people genuinely believe this, it confuses me. William isn’t the one who bullied and killed CC, Michael was.
    I don’t think Cassidy is evil tbh. I may not like her, and I may believe that she should let go by now, I get why she wouldn’t forgive him. Also, yes, neon designs are very unappealing 😔 that’s why I mainly use the bottom section of colors.

  • @Layla._.Weirdo
    @Layla._.Weirdo 2 дні тому +2

    This helped give me a good perspective on my aftons, I'll be changing a few things I think would make the overall character for each afton better, the bratty CC tho for mine, it's his coping mechanism, he aspired to be like micheal even after the bulling, but as he developed hate, those feeling got mixed in the havoc of emotions, and the bite was the final straw, making those emotions the only true ones he remembers, and his mother, who favored C.C over Micheal and Elizabeth before their deaths.
    And as for Noah and his made up twin even existing in my au, it's a reference back to my childhood, gives me a sense of familiarity, and allows for more and more juicy drama between the twins' abusive father and departed mother, and their step mothers lore. Basicly paving way for my own story!

  • @NotCinnaRock
    @NotCinnaRock 2 роки тому +81

    Honestly I agree with all of your points. Specifically “flawless” Michael and vengeful C.C. No character should be flawless, i don’t care if it’s your favorite character. It’s not an excuse. And it just makes it hard to even like Michael as a character when it’s not even the creator’s goal (which is a problem). Now on C.C. This is my personal opinion, how can someone shift to a crybaby to a vengeful maniac right after death? Because that takes A LOT OF development of character. You can’t just snap your fingers and *boom* you’re tough. That’s not how it works. I would like it if it was portrayed good like if Cassidy convinced him to be vengeful or something like that it *might* be good, but no - it’s unrealistic.
    (But sorry for going on a little tangent on ccs part 💀)

    • @LaniusEatsMeat
      @LaniusEatsMeat 2 роки тому +12

      Someone actually make that-
      A youtuber have an AU where Cassidy and basically all the Missing Children were a really bad influence for Crying Child and that's why he's a brat or annoying with everyone.

  • @meisucksatlife8837
    @meisucksatlife8837 2 роки тому +31

    I agree with basically everything, but I also want to add what annoys me: Making Elizabeth a completly bratty innocent child. She is manipulative and I think people should respect that she isn't a saint, none of the Aftons are but *maybe* only CC

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +14

      C.C is the only innocent one, he hasn't done anything wrong, they only think he killed Night guards because the person (Cassidy) who was inside Golden Freddy did it but wasn't he spared by the Puppet on the Happiest day ever or something? That would make C.C the only true angel of the family.

    • @jaycffee8805
      @jaycffee8805 2 роки тому +3

      @@janethmedina7441 I mean I guess, but we don't really know that, for all we know he could have killed some people, but we don't know that much of his character, so who knows if he is still innocent or not

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +1

      @@jaycffee8805 perhaps... maybe 🤔... maybe not... maybe just maybe

    • @mae4life527
      @mae4life527 2 роки тому +5

      I don’t think any afton is innocent or sane but I think C.C. Is less compare from the others.

    • @sans-1
      @sans-1 Рік тому +1

      ikr 🤯

  • @CharlieIsPuppet
    @CharlieIsPuppet Місяць тому +3

    It’s so irritating how people constantly blame Cassidy and hate her for killing William…. When he killed HER first! Not to mention some of the channels that make Michael Williams, “favourite” it’s annoying.
    And realistically William doesn’t really care about his kids. He’s a heartless moron who killed innocent children, wasn’t forced nor controlled.
    I hate when people say “I hate Cassidy for killing William!” He killed the poor child first.
    Why do people defend murderers? It’s sick! Totally sick!

  • @dannythecursedone7091
    @dannythecursedone7091 2 роки тому +18

    Very much agree with your points. I'm relatively new to the experience that is the Gacha Community in general. As I mostly stayed away due to personal biases and hearing some of the really bad types of content that have been produced by it. Though after seeing some content that caught my eye I have warmed up a bit to watching Gacha videos, as there are some really creative minds here. I've even found favorite GachaTubers due to the quality of the types of content they release. Has even inspired me to try and possibly make my own content.
    As with all communities there are the ever present "bad examples" for the content produced by fans, but generally I just move on to the next video to find something I do like if I come across one of them.
    Though, specifically focusing on FNaF Gacha content, I do notice a lot of what you brought up in quite a lot of videos. Some can pull it off better than others admittedly, but sometimes the I feel like the idea was lost in favor of dramatizing the content to appeal to a base audience that just eats it up. It's unfortunate but I certainly understand why such content is produced in vast quantities, it gets easy views and clicks for the related subject alone. I also really, really dislike shipping when it comes to the Aftons as it tends to just get weird. I also feel like some of the standard AU formats get mishandled and are often not that great as they lean heavily into some "Afton Family Tropes" as it were.

  • @Jay_purple_cat_slays
    @Jay_purple_cat_slays 2 роки тому +13

    The only time I like C.C being a vengeful spirit is when he really just ignores/is always mad and does t want to talk to Michael, not when he seriously tried to kill Michael another time lol

  • @ethqqnz
    @ethqqnz 2 роки тому +42

    Finally, someone talked about why making CC vengeful is overrated/annoying!
    I personally don’t think that he’d be vengeful, angry, yes. But vengeful?
    Yeah, not my cup of tea-
    I’ve also noticed of how when ppl make their CC’s, they make him like, 13 and that’s just plain confusing to me-

    • @pandalol7118
      @pandalol7118 2 роки тому +11

      Bro they make Micheal look like some 16 year old. He was literally like 30 or something when he got scooped💀.

  • @TheRealMoonie
    @TheRealMoonie Рік тому +3

    Im still working on these things, designs, how they should act, etc.
    I took these as tips! Thanks and amazing video!❤

  • @SirKemzyGodle
    @SirKemzyGodle 2 роки тому +95

    Gotta say, i agree with the Michael and William tidbits the most. It’s honestly tiring how many people can’t think and see how one’s behavior isn’t changed too easily

    • @Astrid.DaCapo
      @Astrid.DaCapo 2 роки тому +4

      I NEED someone's opinion on my AU before I post
      "Facts about my AU"
      so, please tell me, if it's okay
      if the bite was supposed to be the "final prank"?
      Sorry it's so cringe I didn't find anything else to make him look angelic
      i need an angel somewhere

    • @Astrid.DaCapo
      @Astrid.DaCapo 2 роки тому +1

      Dying for cringe behind camera 😃

    • @SirKemzyGodle
      @SirKemzyGodle 2 роки тому +1

      @@Astrid.DaCapo Hm, I think I know what you’re talking about, but the wording’s a bit confusing lol. Mind if I ask to elaborate?

    • @mae4life527
      @mae4life527 Рік тому

      @@Astrid.DaCapo I don’t get it

    • @Astrid.DaCapo
      @Astrid.DaCapo Рік тому

      @@mae4life527 yk what me neither

  • @-burstverse-1010
    @-burstverse-1010 2 роки тому +49

    Also point out that they make William TOO neglectful and abusive than he was portrayed to be (in the games not the novels). And how all of these people keep doing the same shit over and over. And make angst a trend.

    • @castillomarquez1
      @castillomarquez1 2 роки тому +13

      I don't know why you complain about that, if he is the William Afton Canon, he is a horrible father who doesn't care about his family being that he is just a sadistic psychopath who gives him more than himself and his goal, the same games and novels give it to understand, and this last one does count because Scott said that they are part of the lore and they were made to solve it

    • @funtime_julia_arts2316
      @funtime_julia_arts2316 2 роки тому +10

      William still didn’t want Elizabeth to see circus baby yes he might have hit her once but not all the time not everyday (in the fourth closet page 304/305 Elizabeth just got hit once it didn’t say that she got abused everyday and to me William just got angry he probably have anger issues) and the silver eyes novels are an complete different universe yes we can use the remnant thing (we know what remnant is because of that book) and the names everything else is not the same universe as the game (Micheal and crying child, mrs Afton,ballora aren’t described in those books) to me William just have anger issues and he might be an workaholic he might neglect his kids a little but he is not abusive

    • @LaniusEatsMeat
      @LaniusEatsMeat 2 роки тому +6

      @@funtime_julia_arts2316 Well, we will never know, nothing is canon until is becomes canon and William being extremly abusive or just having anger issues is not canon yet.

    • @Remisaku
      @Remisaku 2 роки тому +3

      @@castillomarquez1 it does seem like he does care about Elizabeth in the games

    • @castillomarquez1
      @castillomarquez1 2 роки тому +6

      @@Remisaku If you are referring to the warning that William gives him, he gave it to him in a very vague way, saying "Do not approach" and that's it, not specifying why he should not and the danger that there may be if he approaches, to the point of believing that he is vague. warning would be enough taking her to the place she was supposed to be away, and when she literally died he left her in an underground where they tortured her by electrocuting her, and in Pizzeria Simulator she only finds her transformation fascinating but not her person

  • @Fazbear_Frightsfan101
    @Fazbear_Frightsfan101 Рік тому +7

    Sometimes using the neons on oc can be good if u just use them correctly.
    U can use some dark color and mixed them with a little neon and it might help your oc look better.
    However this is my opinion, so you don’t need to feel upset.

  • @imnotokay5512
    @imnotokay5512 2 роки тому +15

    Honestly tbh I agree with all of this, ESPECIALLY the one where people make cc so vengful- Tbh I dont think that he'd actually be that way if you think about it. what is also is annoying is how some people make cc kind of emotionless and some type of weird cannibal, I don't know where the cannibal thing came from but its strange- and why is he so emotionless? like hes a human- humans have emotions they just mae him so blank.

    • @comiclord673
      @comiclord673 2 роки тому +6

      Most people think he is the bite of '87 victim which is specified to miss the frontal lobe (which makes no sense given the bite of '87 victim lived- and the game specifies we're in the year '83,but no one cares anymore and neither do i-) and when you're missing that part of brain you can't exactly feel emotions like normal people. The cannibal thingy is just for fun, literally just a trend, it has absolutely nothing to do with the lore-
      I hope that answers your questions :)

    • @imnotokay5512
      @imnotokay5512 2 роки тому +2

      @@comiclord673 Oh well alr! Ty!! ^^

  • @hallobrotbitte
    @hallobrotbitte 10 місяців тому +2

    I like to hide little neon colors inside of my characters and sometimes make a darker color of the neons, like the navy blues etc, as hair, eyes, and sometimes clothing parts. I like to have small nitbits of color stand out, when I remade my fnaf 1 ocs they looked more "eye catching" you could say.

  • @itz_eleurrnaomi5963
    @itz_eleurrnaomi5963 2 роки тому +16

    We have a bit if a vengeful cc but what you said in this video we completely understand. Some people make him "bratty". And that's not usually a good thing. We are taking about the crying child after all. If you want a vengeful cc you could try to make him less bratty and just make him....feel uncomfortable around the people who he dislikes. Or when he gets mad, Don't over do it.

  • @Beemeister
    @Beemeister 2 роки тому +11

    Fair points!
    I agree with everything being said in this video, and honestly the vengeful CC one intrigued me the most.
    Most people just watch other videos and see that CC's vengeful and rip off the idea. Whenever it needs to be explained, they just make something up on the spot so it doesn't look stolen/pointless. Great video!

  • @_flowers_421
    @_flowers_421 2 роки тому +13

    The truth is that all your points are very valid, although I support the idea that Evan is a vengeful soul but you are right where there is a point where it is annoying how his personality does, and in fact you are the first (or second) person who says that Mike is not a saint :D I really don't like him very much and I was happy when I saw that you said your points why is not perfect (apart from the fact that they overestimate him a lot) great video

  • @Ema749-t7n
    @Ema749-t7n 2 роки тому +11

    1:52 yes bro Cassidy just always did the right thing, she for me is the heroic child, whoever thinks she's a villain, certainly drank

  • @GloomyShroomy
    @GloomyShroomy 6 місяців тому +13

    If anything, I would prefer that people make Cassidy AFRAID of William. It just makes sense. Some things i would also like to see more often are: Evan/CC not remembering his death/not knowing that he is dead, Cassidy being vengeful but NOT straight up evil, and William being a more creepy and eerie guy. Something I kinda like but never see is Henry being a phsyco as well. He could go insane after Charlie dying and the Missing kids incident, and resort to getting hellbent on getting revenge on William, making him hostile as well.

    • @Mistythechad
      @Mistythechad 5 місяців тому +1

      My Cassidy used to be afraid of William until UCN

    • @GloomyShroomy
      @GloomyShroomy 5 місяців тому

      @@Mistythechad Noice

    • @TengryEmily1982
      @TengryEmily1982 4 місяці тому

      ​@@MistythechadCool

  • @aki_know
    @aki_know 10 місяців тому +13

    THANK YOU THANK YOU AND THANK YOU!! I hate how people make Michael a saint victim and how they make Cassidy a evil bratty girl💀… it just doesn’t make any sense and I hate it so much, Cassidy is actually a kind child to others(like the time when she helps C.C in remember his past in the journal book)

  • @jaberdrouin3360
    @jaberdrouin3360 2 роки тому +11

    You’re right about the Micheal one. He tried his best to fix everything and is a good person after all but it’s true that he has a bad personnalité and past

  • @Kat_ashiii
    @Kat_ashiii 2 роки тому +31

    I feel like the bite would have made Michael a worse person for a while.
    Vengeful C.C, I feel like it's okay as long as every line he has is a video/ when he is talking to Michael isn't about how much he hates him/ the tormentors.
    It's annoying when people act as though vengeful spirits are in the wrong and should get over it.
    I EXTREMELY dislike neon designs when not used correctly.
    William is a serial killer who had no mercy and did it for selfish reasons. I don't like it when they randomly put the blame on a whole different person saying that it wasn't William's fault that __________ killed __________.
    This comment is getting too long LOL. I'm just going to stop there.

    • @gilbertgoosey
      @gilbertgoosey 2 роки тому +3

      My limit to comments is god knows how long💀

  • @wlbsoott
    @wlbsoott Рік тому +6

    I agree and I hate people who make Michael a saint, if I'm correct at the Survival Logbook, Michael was stated to joke abot C.C's death saying it wasn't his fault and that it was C.C's fault for crying🗿

  • @ObvySatoru
    @ObvySatoru 8 місяців тому +2

    I agree, i dont like neon designs either, but SPARKLE AFTONS NEON DESIGNS ARE A MASTERPIECE

  • @someonestrash
    @someonestrash 2 роки тому +6

    Vengeful CC caught my eye because I used to have it in my au! I gotta say, when people make him a brat it does annoy me, I completely understand why he would be upset at Micheal (and William in some cases) but making this child that did nothing bad cry most of the time some evil genius is a bit much

  • @OlaKalaEdo
    @OlaKalaEdo 2 роки тому +6

    Honestly I completely agree xD
    Edit: also! While you were explaining about c.c being vengeful I remembered a good reason of him being vengeful towards both Michael and William!

  • @defokurtkobain
    @defokurtkobain 2 роки тому +21

    Honestly I also hate it when people make Micheal powerful,like REALLY powerful,because Micheal is literally a walking corpse.He is equivalent to a walking dead body,so why would he be the most powerful Afton?However this is just my opinion and you don’t have to change your AU if yours is like this.And i 100% agree with you!

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +5

      Exactly, I once saw one and they made him look like a king or something, it was from a video with a very ironic and I don't know title that says "He stole Golden Freddy from me!!" Even though C.C was in Golden Freddy first but you know the characters the Afton family Gacha community, they don't like to hear too the truth And sometimes even blame Golden Freddy that had no life sentiment at the moment for C.C's death which wasn't actually his fault, he don't walk over there too C.C they took C.C too him and their the one's who shoved C.C into Golden Freddy's mouth, not the other way around. I agree with you too.

    • @defokurtkobain
      @defokurtkobain 2 роки тому +8

      @@janethmedina7441WTH!?Micheal some kind of King!?Honestly some people in the community made me hate micheal(they made him some kind of goodie two shoes that didn’t do anything wrong and made him the most powerful afton)so now he’s my least favourite afton.(no offence to anyone and sorry if i did offend you)

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +4

      @@defokurtkobain honestly I was triggered, all the missing children call Michael father and C.C gets the rough treatment, the moment he got home he got treated badly by Ennard and C.C's one Nightmares which makes zero sense simply because he brings "poor Mikey" bad memories, I was so happy when Ennard was destroyed 🤣😂

    • @defokurtkobain
      @defokurtkobain 2 роки тому +3

      @@janethmedina7441 YESSS JUSTICE FOR C.C!!!

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому

      @@defokurtkobain Yesss >:D

  • @SambuloSangweni-j2x
    @SambuloSangweni-j2x Місяць тому +2

    Like I have a very vengeful c.c but he doesn’t remember how he died,he just remembers that the fact that Michael bullied him in the past so ya that’s all

  • @MaxterWaxter
    @MaxterWaxter 2 роки тому +6

    I fully agree! This video is wonderful, great job! The last one is especially important, because copying isn’t ok, I’m sure many of us have been inspired by a character (I have been for sure) But straight up copying them isn’t ok.

  • @fxy.br0
    @fxy.br0 3 місяці тому +5

    3:43 Easily Shadows Glitch's old designs. Everyone thought they were the best and took them as their own 💀

  • @jjkitty-qo8vm
    @jjkitty-qo8vm Рік тому +4

    I would really like to see a vengeful CC that isn’t mad at anybody, just upset, more scared of the people who hurt him but still seeks some form of revenge

  • @KrystalStarzers
    @KrystalStarzers 2 роки тому +15

    I agree with the Cassidy part (and some others too)cassidy is a child,it wouldn’t make sense for her just to be bratty towards other people just because of what he did (unless it was her entire personality in their au,but that’s kinda overused and makes her seem kinda like a bad guy in my opinion) I understand where Cassidy would not want to be with William because of what he did but just making her bratty to anyone in general is making her seem like a bad guy (even tho she might be in some peoples au) but my point is she wouldn’t just be like that out of blue for no reason,it makes sense for her to be vengeful to William but to his family?i don’t think it would work like that since they did absolutely nothing to Cassidy,not to mention they always make Cassidy assume they are like William.

  • @KurO_playz_J-fan
    @KurO_playz_J-fan Рік тому +3

    The neon Mohawk design actually isn’t bad it’s just kind of eye blinding

  • @King_Saber0
    @King_Saber0 6 місяців тому +5

    I hate when people say that glitchtrap controlled William to kill the kids,
    I know most of them never even played the car or watched it,
    Glitch trap is Williams digital consciousness in a computer

  • @Gotcharo4
    @Gotcharo4 Рік тому +3

    It doesn’t matter if Chris forgive him then you situation it’s over and you guys don’t have to keep going back-and-forth with with his accident

  • @raposaquecomemiojo
    @raposaquecomemiojo 2 роки тому +8

    completelly fair. In my au, William never had time for his children instead of abusing them, and in the future, he actually tries to treat them well, but he's still a insane murder and only Elizabeth actually likes William. William doesn't like the missing children as they also don't like him, William and Michael are kinda like enemies (although he has changed or not, Michael still burned him alive in Fazbear Frights and William literally tried to kill him as Springtrap and Scraptrap) so none of them is actually "the good guy", William's still insane and Michael still wanna end his whole carrier.
    Also, I fully understand Cassidy, poor kid lost everything

  • @Amodium
    @Amodium 2 роки тому +5

    You made some very good points :))
    Some of these I agree with a lot (your designs are beautiful btw!)

  • @X.AMalufunctioned_RoseMary.X
    @X.AMalufunctioned_RoseMary.X Місяць тому +2

    I would make mine as canon as possible and add few little fanon touches to it :)

  • @panstanfan
    @panstanfan 2 роки тому +11

    michael afton has definitely not changed for the better, well, he’s not saint-like after the bite occurred. he literally makes fun of cc’s death in the logbook; “he tripped on freddy’s teeth (fredbear), not our fault (the tormentors).”

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +7

      bruh..."He tripped on Freddy's teeth"? I think their the one's are tripping 🤣😂 are they on drugs cause that made no sense whatsoever 🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂

    • @panstanfan
      @panstanfan 2 роки тому +7

      @@janethmedina7441 tell that to michael, not me lol

    • @janethmedina7441
      @janethmedina7441 2 роки тому +3

      @@panstanfan Lol 😂🤣🤣😆 I can't even take him seriously 😂 why do people even like him? He's not even smart at all 🤣😂

    • @Remisaku
      @Remisaku 2 роки тому

      What page?

    • @panstanfan
      @panstanfan 2 роки тому +1

      @@Remisaku page 21

  • @SansINess53
    @SansINess53 8 місяців тому +2

    There was 1 au where henry was a psycho and forced william to kill the children and henry killed his wife. In that au I don't remember the name.

  • @hihello2714
    @hihello2714 2 роки тому +6

    The only animatronic that has an excuse to be neon is circus baby

  • @Sweet_SugarCookie
    @Sweet_SugarCookie 4 місяці тому +3

    0:49 I still do it! I have this whole long story on it.
    Here’s the story in short!
    Vincent “dies” and becomes the purple resent/ purple stuff (the thing that makes them immortal pretty much). He kinda..invades Williams head space. He manipulated and guilt tripped Williams into thinking he had to become immortal to keep his family safe. He told him the only way to make the ‘purple stuff’ was through blood. So he convinced William to kill a bunch of kids. He lied. Vincent IS the ‘purple stuff’. And Vincent is apart of William, meaning he was immortal from the start. Or when he was tricked in to eating Vincent’s dead body. Plus, William was kinda mentally unstable. Soo that’s the short version of the story! 😊

    • @Sweet_SugarCookie
      @Sweet_SugarCookie 4 місяці тому +2

      0:57 Here’s more of my AU pookies!
      Micheal in my AU is 50 percent innocent and 50 percent guilty! William told Micheal to bully CC. Telling him he needed to be able to stimulate the emotions fear, desperation, despair and loneliness in CC. William forced Michael into agreeing. Micheal kinda willingly did it out of jealousy but he always felt bad. Especially when the bite happened as he just accidentally killed his only half brother. Worse is he went to jail and had do community service as well. The only person who supported him was his older brother Terrance. 😊

    • @Koranimorir
      @Koranimorir 2 місяці тому

      That is so 2018 coded, I don't know how to feel about this..

    • @Sweet_SugarCookie
      @Sweet_SugarCookie 2 місяці тому

      @@Koranimorir I’m aware, but it’s just what feels right to me! Well, now in my au, William doesn’t really care about his family, he’s a narcissistic 😋 but it’s pretty much the same storyline as before

  • @Amec4_
    @Amec4_ Рік тому +5

    I hate that the fandom made a lot of people hate michael , I just hope everyone stops making him so saint bc he is a good character but they ruin him

  • @crying_cloudz
    @crying_cloudz Рік тому +2

    I never made an Afton Family Video because honestly there’s no way for me to BRING THEM TOGETHER with there being some MASSIVE CONFLICT.

  • @Lisa.IlikefnafOk.
    @Lisa.IlikefnafOk. 3 місяці тому +4

    1:26 yup crying child didn’t even forgive him we can see multiple times in the lore or fnaf songs, cc didn’t forgive michael
    And i also hate when the afton family loves each other/recaps
    No they don’t love each other, william afton k!lled his wife, william aftons creation k!lled elizabeth afton
    Michael afton k!lled and bull!ed his little brother, his little brother is being called a cry baby, the little brothers life is absolute sadness, his parents did nothing for cc, michael wants to k!ll william afton, ( it is not confirmed if william wants to oof michael because of his jumpscare in fnaf 3 )

  • @uvr4402
    @uvr4402 Рік тому +2

    You know i fell like when Michael was burn down,
    He finally met cc in after life

  • @stormy_thepup6946
    @stormy_thepup6946 2 роки тому +13

    All of these are really great points! I agree with pretty much all of these. Only thing is that Micheal locking CC in his room wasn’t that absolute best example of him being mean. Locking someone in their room is a normal punishment, especially back then. Although it still is NOT good for a non-guardian to do that without reason, so the point can still stand. The video is amazing, just wanted to point that out!

  • @Meshisa
    @Meshisa Місяць тому +3

    In my au Henry committed suicide because he got depressed of his children's deaths and how his wife left him (My au). I don't understand how in most people's aus Henry isn't affected.

  • @xxldkwhattoputuwuxx1189
    @xxldkwhattoputuwuxx1189 Рік тому +2

    something that kinda makes me mad is when people think someone is copying someone but people have to understand that there is only so many options till someone is bound to have ether a very similar idea or the exact same idea especially because you are basing it off of a character that has a cannon design, i mean sure there are the spirt ones the bloody dead ones and stuff like that but there is only so many.

  • @AshleyTaylor-ji1iq
    @AshleyTaylor-ji1iq 11 місяців тому +4

    OMG FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS THANK YOU I hate it when they favorite Michael I know it was for attention but evan was to young and Michael is WAY OLDER than Evan and for me I don't think Evan would forgive Michael so easily and if he did it would probably be nearly BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!!

  • @ruvansnaya
    @ruvansnaya 2 роки тому +3

    thank you,it kinda helped me think about somethings i was wondering,about the design,i really like to be inspired in people design like yours,but i always try to make my own design,but its kinda hard since its like,millions of people making designs,sometimes it kinda may look really similar to the others even if i dont know the other person who made it before me,anyways,i liked your opinion a lot,it helped me think better about cassidy and michael

  • @TotallyNyx
    @TotallyNyx 2 роки тому +4

    I agree with all the things especially with the vengeful c.c one in my second au he may be vengeful but not to the point hes gonna haunt him his entire life he would do little pranks and then to make it revenge like burning his wig and throwing water at him as tho theres times where he can be extremely angry as if he does one prank where hes gonna put his head in fredbear but doesnt let him be bitten just to scare him a lil thats my type of vengeful c.c ig

  • @BrandoBrr
    @BrandoBrr 2 роки тому +5

    so many people make mike seem like a ''innocent angel" even though he bullied and killed his own brother like whattttttttttttttttttttt same with william he killed loads of children and made animtronics that were made to kill kids and many more bad things

  • @angelzz...
    @angelzz... 2 роки тому +6

    I actually see this more as tips,I just love your AU-

  • @-Trixx
    @-Trixx Рік тому +2

    Ngl, I was one of those people who copied avatars, now I am just looking up tutorials on how to make them or if their free to use.

  • @earthwormsally1535
    @earthwormsally1535 Рік тому +3

    Ngl,I HATE WHEN ELIZABETH IS A BRAT OR WHATEVER.
    RESON:
    She was more of the protective sibling,also blond youngest Elizabeth.
    It’s not what I think she would be,she was just wanting to be special or have attention.
    She wasn’t a brat,mean,bossy, kid I feel like.
    (Sry for bad grammar it’s 3:00am

  • @keybaordwirez
    @keybaordwirez Рік тому +2

    can I just say something about my AU that most people be wrong:
    They say, "why do you make William a good guy?" I don't. I make it so he cares about absolutely nobody except his children. He is a great father, but a terrible person. He will manipulate you I've and over, he kills children, but he doesn't want anything to happen to his kids.

  • @godsavethequeen4675
    @godsavethequeen4675 2 роки тому +3

    Also a personal thing I have to say in the books all the kids but Michael (not afton someone else) don’t know they are dead and all love William dearly (well until they find out their all dead and become understandably upset) while in game lore from what I can tell they know they are dead and are rightfully angered about it but remember their all kids so they shouldn’t be screaming full of hatred at him but running away just out of pure fear of “mr Bonnie” just my personal take on the missing childrens behaviors towards William

  • @HassanlikesMario
    @HassanlikesMario 10 місяців тому +2

    Dude I agree with you so much, people seriously need to stop making William look like he’s the good guy

  • @charmisdelaganar5441
    @charmisdelaganar5441 2 роки тому +8

    I also do not understand why gachatubers make there past aftons simple but at the present they make the design with neon colors and random accessories that doesn't fit in there au or storyline, the canon design are simple but they make overaccessorized characters and this doesn't happen only in fnaf, it happens in every Fandom, i hate to say it but stereotypes are going over with there random designs (my apology if your design is what i metion inn this comment)

    • @sedra9076
      @sedra9076 Рік тому +1

      I agree its so anyoing
      I'v seen people make elizabeth befor she died with a simple and canon design but after she died they make her get taller with a teenger body and a non canon design like gaving her a flowers in her head and demon or angel wings and pants and a different colors from her canon one

  • @KJTHESTICKMAN257
    @KJTHESTICKMAN257 3 місяці тому +2

    1:49 my Cassidy isn’t exactly evil, but went crazy. She was so focused on vengeance, torture, killing, that she started treating the other missing kids as tools for that.

  • @akissiDraw
    @akissiDraw 2 роки тому +6

    For the first one i believe in the theory of a good William towards his children. When C.C died by Micheal then William wanted to "put him back together" by making him alive again and then he became a murderer and all. And he became evil by being vegeful towards the children that kills him when in Springtrap, and so towards Micheal by killing C.C and making William killed children, like he kinda regect all his sins on Mike.

    • @themask1975
      @themask1975 2 роки тому +1

      For the true He didn't care at all about his kids in canon😅told this have a good day 👍

  • @Afriendlymeep
    @Afriendlymeep Рік тому +2

    When my friend got accused for copying others designs she got me to make a new one so I just found loads of designs reference pictures and stuff and used them as inspiration

  • @insamitygacha2468
    @insamitygacha2468 8 місяців тому +3

    honestly the whole 'dont make them super bratty' thing also stands for elizabeth. a lot of people absolutely HATE elizabeth for... being at most, 13 years old? and thats if you really stretch the ages out and make her short. like, idk ab you guys, but i was really stupid when i was 13 and under. and considering william was canonically maybe not the best father, you can see why elizabeth would come off as bratty, right? she just wants her dads attention!
    sorry i have a lot of thoughts about fnaf

  • @GreedHeckness
    @GreedHeckness 2 роки тому +4

    - I'm here just to share my opinion/Version because i'm very self centered
    - 1. I never hide what My William did wrong, but i always explain the reason and how it lead to what he did, but never making him look like the Victim, I make my William someone who does everything based on his research (Mad scientist, he doesn't like and find no pleasure in murder)
    - 3. My Michael isn't a good person and he never will, he became a better version of himself because of the Traumas, but he still is an Arrogant person who thinks too little of other people
    - 3. My Cassidy isn't evil, she is very childish and very petty, but she also is very curious about what William did and is always asking him questions (And he happily anwsers it), but she (and the rest of the MC) doesn't forgive him, they just goes around him since he is basically harmless
    - 4. My C.C is vengefull, but he still fears Michael becauss of the constant Psycological abuse toward him, but after his death, he makes sure that Michael never forgets what he did by Tormenting him nonstop
    - 5. I only use Neon designs toward things that i want people to focus more (Eyes, ribbons and animatronics clothing)
    - 6. That last one i agree completely

  • @Skelynnton
    @Skelynnton 2 роки тому +5

    I’ve always felt a deep animosity fits better for CC than vengeance. Obviously he doesn’t like Michael even if he doesn’t speak on it, kinda obvious from the foxy plus he’s head being torn off. But he’s also a very scared kid like you said someone shouldn’t 180 real quick.

  • @Its.Sorinx-wq8qc
    @Its.Sorinx-wq8qc Рік тому +2

    For making William the victim, people say that "glitchtrap was in control of William" so, it really depends on their au I guess.

  • @KatarinaPanić-d3p
    @KatarinaPanić-d3p 10 місяців тому +3

    I hate IT when will being a Bad day is why Mike Bully's The crying child Like maybe Just Mike being a pain in The Ass older Brother Like rodrick from diary of a wimpy Kid has that IS now older Brother act

  • @phbtt7831
    @phbtt7831 2 роки тому +3

    In my au C.c controls golden freddy but he cant see or hear soo when cassidy told him about her murder he decided to help her not knowing he was killing his father i think is a cool concept

    • @phbtt7831
      @phbtt7831 2 роки тому +2

      in my au my william is a bad person but with his own reasons my william has tatarafobia(the fear of death) soo he started killing animals to test despair and the souls to gain imortality but after his son died he started doing more extreme behaviors.Also hes distant of his family cause of his lack of emotions but he tries to be a good father even if he hates michal behavior and elizabeth imature behavior having C.c as the closest to him making his brothers envios

    • @phbtt7831
      @phbtt7831 2 роки тому +1

      also sorry for my poor english im brazilian and i lack writing skills

  • @Madamcrazygachaz
    @Madamcrazygachaz 3 місяці тому +3

    Thing I definitely hate.
    1. Brat cc
    2. Highlighters...
    3. Cc and cassidy hating each other
    4. Micheal being the favorite of the creator
    5. Any abused person expect for micheal from mrs.a and William from Oliver.
    6. Not naming the characters, things like: ____, *$*$*#@. I understand for miss a and nicknames :)
    7. Micheal having different parents
    8. Micheal and William looking the exact same
    9. Cc being friends with the nightmares/Micheal being friends with ennard
    10. Gregbot and glamike
    11. Super bratty elizabeth...
    Plenty more but I'm to pazy

  • @Snowy-x4n
    @Snowy-x4n 10 місяців тому +2

    I HATE when people use neon designs without making it look good

  • @souslept
    @souslept Рік тому +3

    I love vengeful cc (when ofc, used correctly.) because of that, I agree a lot with the people in the comment section.
    And Oh, God, the pain when people make characters who did something not good at all a saint! ESPECIALLY when they did it on purpose. Unfortunately, they make very horrible excuses to why they did that.
    In general, I despise people who makes this character focused on their channel- and then making the other characters hurting them! Like, come on! I don't want another Y/N Mary Sue rip off! They CASUALLY make shytty ideas to hurt that character, which is not fine at all. Even the clickbait sucks!
    "If Michael afton got-" I'd rather take the bratty cassidy!! Please, God no!

  • @4TL4SZFL00FYZNS
    @4TL4SZFL00FYZNS 2 місяці тому +1

    In my au theirs Cassidy, who is scared of William like the other missing children, and then theirs TOYSHNK, who is made of ccs agony and killed William.

  • @Idk_anymore_1234
    @Idk_anymore_1234 2 роки тому +6

    I hate when they mike a good guy there is so much evidence that Michael is selfish man ( survival logbook) but it seems nobody pay attention to this detail same goes for fnaf 6 where in one rare screens there is poster, where mike is represented as Williams puppet

  • @Amaris_Plantaris
    @Amaris_Plantaris 3 місяці тому +1

    In my AU, cassidy eventually got bored and lonely torturing william in ucn. She still hates him, but wanted to see her friends again.
    (She does stuff to ruin his day though, from a range of putting toothpaste in his british tea to putting a thin long plastic sheet taped to the bottom of his office doorway so he hits his head on the edge of his office desk.)