Avery I think your next topic ought to be a challenge for Muslims who claim to know the Bible: If they know the Bible so well, why haven’t they discovered the Trinity?
Many of them can see it, but they are liars. That's the problem. It's like when you show them when the Bible mention who is the Liar and Antichrist, that is the one who denies the FATHER and SON ... It doesn't matter what you make them read, they still going to deny. Because they actually carry the spirit of the antichrist.
The Trinity isn't in the Bible. It also doesn't explain why Christians know the Bible but still don't understand the Trinity or why some Christians also don't accept the Trinity.
They're probably going to deny it because they have authentic sources with which they can check the Bible but the Bible is not authentic. So why would they use it or accept it as evidence?@@nooneisprophetinhisownland2486
@@nunya54 Saying "The Trinity isn't in the Bible" it's just like me saying "Your brain isn't in your head". Only arrogant, blind, immature and uneducated people would conclude such thing. We know the spirit of the antichrist makes you think that way. My friend, the concept of the Trinity is there from the very first page of the Bible, and it's all over, from cover to cover. You can lie to yourself, but not to us. The Lord said "Seek, and you will find."... But if you wanna keep your eyes closed, it's your choice.
King: Are the 99 attributes of Allah, one with Allah's essence? Mufti: Allah knows best King: Are the attributes distinct? Mufti: Allah knows best King: Are the attributes uncreated? Mufti: Allah knows best King: Are the 99 attributes eternal? Mufti: Who is Allah, Allah knows best Blackdoctor21: I will do one better: Why is Allah? (TS:50:10)
Wooww I never thought of that, Tewahedo is a belief of God's oneness in Ethiopian Orthodox religion. It would be cool if an apologist spent time researching this
@@yaee123 islam is just a copycat... imagine they say God can't take on human form or come down to his creation but they still use the name Israel, a name given to Jacob, after he wrestled with God and won... check the name for yourself and see my point 👉 thanks 👍
@@yaee123I am Ethiopia orthodox and this is the first time I heard about Bilal I will do more research on the topic. I want my Muslim brothers and sisters to be free from this devil cult.
This is so crazy , and is so funny its not even funny 😂, the fact that Allah and the quran share eternity means they're two distinct beings eternal, one cognitive (Allah) ,and the other not, the ( Quran) ,this is more than a big problem for Muslims to say the least , especially when Muslims believe that the Quran is unchangeable hence why they say the Quran is the same all over the world in book form which would further indicate that the Quran has a worded structure and pattern ( beginning, middle and end ) , now if this is true according to Muslim view , how can the Quran intercede for Muslims on the day of judgment whether it was given the power by Allah to speak or not , if the Quran changes into a pale man and speaks on the behalf of men then it would be speaking outside of the set structure it previously had in eternity past, meaning the Quran changes uttering words that are not in the book , this is totally against the believe system they adhere too, because the Quran is unchanable 😂, it gets worse because the muslim at the beginning said the Quran doesn't have cognitive abilities even if Allah gave the Quran the capability to speak as a interceder, which would mean Allah has now become a ventriloquist putting words in the mouth of the pale man who now talks to (Allah) himself infront of mankind 😂, this is crazy, and they say we Christians have the problems 😂😂😂
What the christains want you to understand here is because you always accuse us of worshipping 3 gods, which we don't. But here allah will empower the quran on his behalf as a person to intercede on the day of resurrection. Double standard.
Allah does change form - that is the point. The Koran is an uncreated attribute of Allah. Yet his attributes enter creation and on judgement day it will intercede on behalf of the Moslem & testify to the truthfulness of their recital whilst taking on the form of a man, birds & clouds. The divine has separated and talks to Allah, addressing him as “my lord”. This proves there is absolute plurality of god in Islam
@ExMuslim_DT Hi. Great selection in video. However, because you give only a selection from the original, please put link to original full video in the description below the video!! Source.
I understand the Muslims position that it's possible that the rock doesn't have cognizance if it's just saying something; Allah can be instructing the words but to have the rock intercede and communicate WITH Allah, cognition can't be refuted at that point
In the qur'an there are many non-living things that developes consciousness out of nowhere. The problem with the qur'an developing consciousness is that its eternal.
If the rock can speak and know and doesn't have cognizance how can we say anything that speaks and knows is cognizant, thats the basic definition of the term (mostly the knowing part, the speaking is evidence of the knowing)
This is a good one. Because I was thinking in my head if I was a muslim I would use the example of AI speaking by chatGPT. That has no conscious but can hold a conversations. And I was thinking about a proper reply.
Abz voice went from confident to passive aggressive to SLAP SPAP awareness to self ignorance paired with shuddering then denial/argumentative. He chose to defend the lie. Hope he realizes the consequences if he continues.
I was thinking about. if I were a muslim I would be using AI and chat gpt as an example of something that can hold a conversation, but has no conscious. How would you all respond to that?
Is AI uncreated adn eternal and live? Nope. Again, you need to give your information, from your mind to AI algorithm and make AI algorithm for AI to work. You NEED yo CREATE AI. Is God's Word Created?So now, are you saying that God gave to His Attribute His Knowledge, information from His Mind?;
Sounds to me like the Muslim is modalist. You argument is based on a definition of speech which assumes consciousness. But I can say my mouth speaks, without therefore my mouth being conscious, it does however need my consciousness controlling it. But regardless, it seems silly for God to say that his word will take on human form and speak, but what he actually means is the God is speaking through it, to himself. So I think your point stands, but it's reliant on an assumption of God not being silly in his communication, and trying to mislead, something you can't assume in Islam.
Mufti this is for you, I remember you say Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob are the chain in the Abrahamic religion right? truth be told and I pray that by the mercy and grace of Yahuah my creator that you this, Abram had a convenant with the creator in Genesis 18 and even when Abram pleaded for Ishmael The I AM told Abram that HIS convenant will be established with Isaac and not Ishmael and later to Jacob the son of Isaaac. Ishmael evidently had no place in this convenant but the Creator promised to make 12 nations out of Ishmael and also make Him great, even the quran made this same claim that Isaac was chosen son of Sarah/Sarai and not Ishmael son of the egyptian Hagar. There is ultimately no connection with the torah and the gospel with muhammad and his allah, nothing what so ever but only trying to force himself and get some validity with ancient books.
Yeeee, Cuz da way God speaks is in….quadruple entendres!!!! These people are WEEEETAWDED!!!! The amount of logical fallacies from those arguing for the religion of “entendres” is INSANE.
Muslim erroneously claim that the Quran is the word of Allah while the racord demonstrate that Allah never directly spoke to Mohamed but rather Angel Gabriel. And since Mohamed could not read or write he recited it to people who somehow recorded after Mohamed was dead and could not verify its authenticity. This accounts for the massive discrepancies within itself and with other scriptures that it claims to confirm
Thats shows who ever created the Quran was not God. But a man that tried to start his own religion for power . Look and search for who was appointed as a leader in Islam. Because history can't prove Muhammad was even a real person. Nothing that can trace him or any of Quran stories to be true
Friends, I'm confused! How can someone who claims to be a Muslim , rocks dreadlocks, which is the symbol that Haile Selassie is his god! The conquering lion of the tribe of judah🤯 These Muslims ...is this not S...
At 2:53...these STREET APOLOGISTS do not know (purposely ignorant) what INHERENT QUALITIES are. AVERY deliberately keeps talking about something "SHARING"
Jesus is not god. Quran 116 Jesus will be question by Allah, on the day of judgement. On Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen. Allah promised to forgive all sins, if you repent sincerely to him. No need for someone to die for your sins, that you're guilty of.
haha you must not of heard of sahih Muslim 6665-6666-6668 in which Muhammad says all jew and Christians will take away the sins of Muslims and take there place in hell fire this is your god Allah passing sins to others that there not guilty of 😂 going against your claim in your comment
You nd momo who came 600 yrs after Jesus are saying our God is not God Wow, I'm all ears not Rocks speaking Kissing rocks Throwing rocks at Safa nd Marwa See the pattern 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅
thats funny because muhamad says that Christians and jews will bear the sins of muslims and take there place in hell fire so it seems your god most certainly allows others to take the sins of guilty people also allah loves sinners it says in the quran if you did not sin allah would replace you with sinners he needs your prayers and repentance to sustain himself
@@StuartErnest-f4y Jesus told you to worship one God alone, and not to worship idols, but you make statue of him, bowing to it, and kissing it as worship.
Is Allah helpless ?? Why Allah need the quran and the black stone to Intercede for him on the day of judgement ??? Aren't Allah the all knowing and the all Planner and the all Deceiver that nothing happens without the permission of allah...
Avery I think your next topic ought to be a challenge for Muslims who claim to know the Bible: If they know the Bible so well, why haven’t they discovered the Trinity?
Many of them can see it, but they are liars. That's the problem. It's like when you show them when the Bible mention who is the Liar and Antichrist, that is the one who denies the FATHER and SON ... It doesn't matter what you make them read, they still going to deny. Because they actually carry the spirit of the antichrist.
Because TRINITY does NOT EXIST in the Torah and Tanakh.
The Trinity isn't in the Bible. It also doesn't explain why Christians know the Bible but still don't understand the Trinity or why some Christians also don't accept the Trinity.
They're probably going to deny it because they have authentic sources with which they can check the Bible but the Bible is not authentic. So why would they use it or accept it as evidence?@@nooneisprophetinhisownland2486
@@nunya54 Saying "The Trinity isn't in the Bible" it's just like me saying "Your brain isn't in your head". Only arrogant, blind, immature and uneducated people would conclude such thing. We know the spirit of the antichrist makes you think that way. My friend, the concept of the Trinity is there from the very first page of the Bible, and it's all over, from cover to cover. You can lie to yourself, but not to us.
The Lord said "Seek, and you will find."... But if you wanna keep your eyes closed, it's your choice.
Muslims be like “ just because Allah grants you legs doesn’t mean they are used to move around that’s your own interpretation“
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Wow 😂😂😂😂😂
This is a re-run. My 2nd time listening to this discussion. I learned something new. This was awesome. Thx Avery!!
Its a good episode
The moment Muslims used "Oneness", they lost the debate.
King: Are the 99 attributes of Allah, one with Allah's essence?
Mufti: Allah knows best
King: Are the attributes distinct?
Mufti: Allah knows best
King: Are the attributes uncreated?
Mufti: Allah knows best
King: Are the 99 attributes eternal?
Mufti: Who is Allah, Allah knows best
Blackdoctor21: I will do one better: Why is Allah? (TS:50:10)
Theres 99 names of Allah , God is not of them
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Black doctor is too funny 😂 he’s a real one tho !!
Tawhid is brought to islam by Bilal who was a tawhido Christian from ethiopia, that's why Muslims don't get it. 🙄
Wooww I never thought of that, Tewahedo is a belief of God's oneness in Ethiopian Orthodox religion. It would be cool if an apologist spent time researching this
@@yaee123 islam is just a copycat... imagine they say God can't take on human form or come down to his creation but they still use the name Israel, a name given to Jacob, after he wrestled with God and won... check the name for yourself and see my point 👉 thanks 👍
@@yaee123I am Ethiopia orthodox and this is the first time I heard about Bilal I will do more research on the topic. I want my Muslim brothers and sisters to be free from this devil cult.
That doesn't explain why Christians don't get it though.
Islam copied history or history is just history?@@theman8070
This is so crazy , and is so funny its not even funny 😂, the fact that Allah and the quran share eternity means they're two distinct beings eternal, one cognitive (Allah) ,and the other not, the ( Quran) ,this is more than a big problem for Muslims to say the least , especially when Muslims believe that the Quran is unchangeable hence why they say the Quran is the same all over the world in book form which would further indicate that the Quran has a worded structure and pattern ( beginning, middle and end ) , now if this is true according to Muslim view , how can the Quran intercede for Muslims on the day of judgment whether it was given the power by Allah to speak or not , if the Quran changes into a pale man and speaks on the behalf of men then it would be speaking outside of the set structure it previously had in eternity past, meaning the Quran changes uttering words that are not in the book , this is totally against the believe system they adhere too, because the Quran is unchanable 😂, it gets worse because the muslim at the beginning said the Quran doesn't have cognitive abilities even if Allah gave the Quran the capability to speak as a interceder, which would mean Allah has now become a ventriloquist putting words in the mouth of the pale man who now talks to (Allah) himself infront of mankind 😂, this is crazy, and they say we Christians have the problems 😂😂😂
Nothing is crazier than God becoming a human baby and entering the world through a vagina.
What the christains want you to understand here is because you always accuse us of worshipping 3 gods, which we don't. But here allah will empower the quran on his behalf as a person to intercede on the day of resurrection. Double standard.
That's not actually a double standard at all because God did not change or divide or take on another form
@@nunya54 my dear God can do anything.
Allah does change form - that is the point. The Koran is an uncreated attribute of Allah. Yet his attributes enter creation and on judgement day it will intercede on behalf of the Moslem & testify to the truthfulness of their recital whilst taking on the form of a man, birds & clouds. The divine has separated and talks to Allah, addressing him as “my lord”. This proves there is absolute plurality of god in Islam
Where does it say the Quran is a created attribute of God?@@debunking_izlam
@@nunya54 I said uncreated Attribute of Allah. This is the belief of mainstream Sunni Islam.
The power that they describe coming from allah is magic .....its witchcraft
Allah knows best really means I don’t have an answer or I can’t answer.
Can someone explain to me when Muslims try to explain the consciousness of quran it sounds alot like the concept of trinitarian doctrine?
Another splendid stream
Who were the eye witnesses when Mohammad was receiving the revelations.
None.its just a claim.
No body m😂😂😂
Mohammed was a mad man 😂😂😂😂
Muhammad was his own witness 😅😅🙏🏻
He had tens of thousands of companions. You can read the hadith to find that.
@ExMuslim_DT Hi. Great selection in video. However, because you give only a selection from the original, please put link to original full video in the description below the video!! Source.
AlhamduliYeshua
I understand the Muslims position that it's possible that the rock doesn't have cognizance if it's just saying something; Allah can be instructing the words but to have the rock intercede and communicate WITH Allah, cognition can't be refuted at that point
The angels learn magic from Allah and yet he sent those angels to start a Harry Potter school 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And who tought Al-Lah Magic it was EMINEM Abra Abra Cadabra im bout to reach in my bag brah!!!!!
Our souls is who we are not our body
The black stone will have eyes and mouth and will talk ,this what muhammad said !!!
In the qur'an there are many non-living things that developes consciousness out of nowhere. The problem with the qur'an developing consciousness is that its eternal.
If the rock can speak and know and doesn't have cognizance how can we say anything that speaks and knows is cognizant, thats the basic definition of the term (mostly the knowing part, the speaking is evidence of the knowing)
Things which speak without consciousness is a recording device only. It cannot analyzed instances but speaks what stored in it.
This is a good one. Because I was thinking in my head if I was a muslim I would use the example of AI speaking by chatGPT. That has no conscious but can hold a conversations. And I was thinking about a proper reply.
Which Hadith talks about the Quran interceding ?
Abz voice went from confident to passive aggressive to SLAP SPAP awareness to self ignorance paired with shuddering then denial/argumentative. He chose to defend the lie. Hope he realizes the consequences if he continues.
I was thinking about. if I were a muslim I would be using AI and chat gpt as an example of something that can hold a conversation, but has no conscious. How would you all respond to that?
Is AI uncreated adn eternal and live? Nope. Again, you need to give your information, from your mind to AI algorithm and make AI algorithm for AI to work. You NEED yo CREATE AI. Is God's Word Created?So now, are you saying that God gave to His Attribute His Knowledge, information from His Mind?;
Amin...Black Doctor...Avery...etc. Humans just CANNOT be this IGNORANT 🙄
Are these guys PRETENDING to be this IGNORANT? 🤔
A book and a rock will speak on their behalf…. And that’s not paganism?
Sounds to me like the Muslim is modalist. You argument is based on a definition of speech which assumes consciousness. But I can say my mouth speaks, without therefore my mouth being conscious, it does however need my consciousness controlling it.
But regardless, it seems silly for God to say that his word will take on human form and speak, but what he actually means is the God is speaking through it, to himself. So I think your point stands, but it's reliant on an assumption of God not being silly in his communication, and trying to mislead, something you can't assume in Islam.
Mufti this is for you, I remember you say Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac and Jacob are the chain in the Abrahamic religion right? truth be told and I pray that by the mercy and grace of Yahuah my creator that you this, Abram had a convenant with the creator in Genesis 18 and even when Abram pleaded for Ishmael The I AM told Abram that HIS convenant will be established with Isaac and not Ishmael and later to Jacob the son of Isaaac. Ishmael evidently had no place in this convenant but the Creator promised to make 12 nations out of Ishmael and also make Him great, even the quran made this same claim that Isaac was chosen son of Sarah/Sarai and not Ishmael son of the egyptian Hagar. There is ultimately no connection with the torah and the gospel with muhammad and his allah, nothing what so ever but only trying to force himself and get some validity with ancient books.
Why aren't you guys bringing up the verses on the screen?
Yeeee, Cuz da way God speaks is in….quadruple entendres!!!! These people are WEEEETAWDED!!!! The amount of logical fallacies from those arguing for the religion of “entendres” is INSANE.
Muslim erroneously claim that the Quran is the word of Allah while the racord demonstrate that Allah never directly spoke to Mohamed but rather Angel Gabriel. And since Mohamed could not read or write he recited it to people who somehow recorded after Mohamed was dead and could not verify its authenticity. This accounts for the massive discrepancies within itself and with other scriptures that it claims to confirm
When Allah writes 'we', he must be referring to himself and hus Co God, the Koran.
JESUS,PBUH WAS SAVIOUR TO THE CHILDREN OF JACOB!
32:17🤣🤣😅
The black stone is going to speak for all Muslims so y are they arguing about the rock talking ?
*Why* would Allah puppet the Qur'an to make an argument back to himself?
Thats shows who ever created the Quran was not God. But a man that tried to start his own religion for power . Look and search for who was appointed as a leader in Islam. Because history can't prove Muhammad was even a real person. Nothing that can trace him or any of Quran stories to be true
Friends, I'm confused! How can someone who claims to be a Muslim , rocks dreadlocks, which is the symbol that Haile Selassie is his god! The conquering lion of the tribe of judah🤯
These Muslims ...is this not S...
The quran is a lawyer?.
These muslims definitely crushed Avery and Islame 😁
Nobody can prove that allah exists outside of the mind of muhammad
Even allah cannot prove that he exists outside of the mind of muhammad
@@neilsavage8915 true :)
So is Jesus the word of god or is the Koran?
Interesting questions for the Muslims.
This brother is spitting
Why is allah? 😅
Exactly in order to speak you need to have a brain…. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out lol
Are you doing Taqiyaa? Are you sure? Promise?
🙏🙏🙏Jesus Christ is the Lord to the Glory of GOD the Father 🙏🙏🙏
Tell him balckdoc
who is allah😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂ISLAM= ABRA ABRA CADABRA IM ABOUT TO REACH IN MY BAG BRAH!!!!!!
Please don't speak over each other.
At 2:53...these STREET APOLOGISTS do not know (purposely ignorant) what INHERENT QUALITIES are.
AVERY deliberately keeps talking about something "SHARING"
Jesus is not god.
Quran 116
Jesus will be question by Allah, on the day of judgement.
On Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.
Allah promised to forgive all sins, if you repent sincerely to him.
No need for someone to die for your sins, that you're guilty of.
haha you must not of heard of sahih Muslim 6665-6666-6668 in which Muhammad says all jew and Christians will take away the sins of Muslims and take there place in hell fire this is your god Allah passing sins to others that there not guilty of 😂 going against your claim in your comment
You nd momo who came 600 yrs after Jesus are saying our God is not God
Wow, I'm all ears not
Rocks speaking
Kissing
rocks
Throwing rocks at Safa nd Marwa
See the pattern 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅
This is Isa not Jesus. That's why yall are confused, Isa is not Jesus.
thats funny because muhamad says that Christians and jews will bear the sins of muslims and take there place in hell fire so it seems your god most certainly allows others to take the sins of guilty people also allah loves sinners it says in the quran if you did not sin allah would replace you with sinners he needs your prayers and repentance to sustain himself
@@StuartErnest-f4y
Jesus told you to worship one God alone, and not to worship idols, but you make statue of him, bowing to it, and kissing it as worship.
He has to teach them about their own shit😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 They dont understand their own feith!!!!!!
Is Allah helpless ??
Why Allah need the quran and the black stone to Intercede for him on the day of judgement ???
Aren't Allah the all knowing and the all Planner and the all Deceiver that nothing happens without the permission of allah...