@@leskerr9446 only if you are middle-class enough to get your parents to pay the maintenance element. Otherwise it is more like £50K for a degree worth sweet FA.
I had my toilet routered and it cost $345.00. I had the underneath of my kitchen sink re-plumbed and a new faucet installed. That was $1600.00. I had the lockset of my front door replaced. That was $600.00. An air conditioning company (that was too busy to want my business,) told me a unit installed inside up on the wall with a lead going to the outside and the a/c unit outside on the ground would be about 10k. Go to trade school. If you are an awesome hairdresser, (not during Covid,) you can make a ton of money. Women who do eyebrow microblading charge $600.00. Mechanics, plumbers, landscapers, electricians...people will always need these services.
@@alcoholandfun243Ask a doctor, dentist or attorney if “hard work scares them”. Not everyone is talented with their hands. Being an accountant can be very hard and tedious.
I remember when Gordon Brown claimed university fees were good value because a degree meant the person would earn an extra £400,000 during their lifetime. It didn't seem to occur to anyone that free tuition would be good value since the extra tax the degree holder would pay, would be many times the tuition cost. Something so obvious being ignored, would suggest that supposed extra income was really pie in the sky and they knew it.
@@grahvis no its a question about economics, at the moment too many people go to university, if we reduce the number who go, making it free is more feasible. University should be for our brightest and most talented individuals, not for someone who can't get into their selected field because they weren't up to snuff.
@@badgoogle9938 . What just make it harder to get into university? That would rule out many who were perfectly capable of being able to gain from it. I always thought to idea was to get a better educated population not a worse one.
@@grahvis the idea is to fill jobs, the amount of students going through university makes it impossible for some people to do that which is why we have people with PhD doing "menial" jobs. Yes, only our brightest should be going to university, there are many courses that serve no purpose in the outside world. Going to university doesn't guarantee a better educated population, what university excel at is, being able to meet new people. www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2020/sep/05/best-uk-universities-for-education-league-table has a few columns to sort by, universities are not fit for purpose in their current guise. Until we get the balance right, payment is needed. I would prefer fewer students going to university who wouldn't need to pay.
OUCH!!!!!! Lets pretend that this is just a comedy sketch and not an extremely accurate reflection of the system because frankly, I would be embarrassed to be part of a system which would allow such a con to be perpetrated and allowed/endorsed.....!
@@scott2673 after 30 years from the point of graduation/failure, student loans are cancelled, even if you still owe £££. The current (official) estimate is that a majority of students will never repay their student loans in the 30 year period. So there is a further economics case to be made that the "real" cost of a university education is less than the "paper" cost. However, fees are higher, and no doubt rules are different, for students from overseas, so don't get your hopes up ;-)
Simply brilliant...the whole university funding system makes no sense ... Very few students worry about repaying student loans .. because if you ask them they don't think they will get a well paying job . So the loan is for a few years holiday getting drunk and getting away from home.
I've met students who told me they were only going to Uni for the Uni experience of getting drunk all the time and having a good time with friends, they didn't care about the studying part.
Making sure my daughter finishes school and next year goes into a job that allows her to study part time. Straight out university is only good for outright career Jobs.
In grad school, I earned my stipend durig the summer by teaching bonehead math to students entering a dubious program called Masters of Arts Management. The students had all been math avoiders, as was required for admission into the program. That is, if you could do math, you would quickly calculate that there is no percentage in getting such a degree.
Amusing but wrong. It is true that the student gets something for nothing if he does not get a well paid job after graduating, but it does him no good to get that gift. If he gets a well paid job (where his knowledge is put to use) then he is better off overall despite losing a bit of money in the extra tax (theoretically loan repayment/interest payment).
@@BingleFlimp I am not wrong and have already explained the logic in my initial comment. In summary, you have to consider the overall utility of the life with and without making an effort at university and afterwards in getting a job. Just trying to minimise the amount paid on a degree (or just time at university) is narrow and irrational. Tracy Ullman is funny. I've always found that, but she doesn't understand everything she jokes about.
@@BingleFlimp Your dismissive but short comments, with no reasoning, suggest you are just trying to wind me up. But (not that personal experience is relevant to the logic of decisions) my personal experience related to this question comes from a decade as a visiting lecturer at a UK business school, graduating myself a long time ago, and having three sons (two now graduated and established in promising careers and a third waiting to go to university). What did I lecture on? Managing risk and uncertainty, with a focus on management science including of course decision making under uncertainty.
@@matthewleitch1 The clear ignorance you are displaying in regards to the specific topic you have chosen to discuss drastically exceeds that which is expected from the average populace.
This should be shown to the Department of Education… to let them know how screwed up their thinking is… give people / kids free money and they will just spend it… bugger the consequences
Lol.....nobody’s repaying their student loans...teachers get pay plus benefits plus promotion plus tenure plus housing plus govt subsidies and students get .....well, screwed.
These skits always leave me wanting more. Seriously we need a movie with this very talented actress.
While poking fun quite savagely, there is an endearing element of truth in the student/teacher interaction underlying the sketch. Classy comedy.
I'd call it an element of idealism, and a healthy one at that :-)
Tracey, as ever spot on with her point of view.
Education is just big business now, that's why you need a post grad diploma or a PHD to get to the front of the queue at McDonald's recruitment
🤣🤣
Pay £30K to get a degree worth sweet FA
😅😅😅😅😅
@@leskerr9446 only if you are middle-class enough to get your parents to pay the maintenance element. Otherwise it is more like £50K for a degree worth sweet FA.
"now"
Thank you. Bill. That will be all.
I had my toilet routered and it cost $345.00. I had the underneath of my kitchen sink re-plumbed and a new faucet installed. That was $1600.00. I had the lockset of my front door replaced. That was $600.00. An air conditioning company (that was too busy to want my business,) told me a unit installed inside up on the wall with a lead going to the outside and the a/c unit outside on the ground would be about 10k. Go to trade school. If you are an awesome hairdresser, (not during Covid,) you can make a ton of money. Women who do eyebrow microblading charge $600.00. Mechanics, plumbers, landscapers, electricians...people will always need these services.
They don't want to do manual labour. They want to work is a comfortable office, doing minimal work, working 9 to 5.
Hard work scares them.
@@alcoholandfun243Ask a doctor, dentist or attorney if “hard work scares them”. Not everyone is talented with their hands. Being an accountant can be very hard and tedious.
It is also a matter of prestige and the meaning one finds in the job
I remember when university was free and they stopped it... right when it was time for my year to go.
It was Blair
No Maggie stopped free school milk. She qualified as a bio chemist and worked on making soft scoop ice cream before moving to law.
Love the sock puppets! 😄
She really is an underappreciated comic genius.
It’s hilariously true. Which is also quite sad, actually.
I remember when Gordon Brown claimed university fees were good value because a degree meant the person would earn an extra £400,000 during their lifetime.
It didn't seem to occur to anyone that free tuition would be good value since the extra tax the degree holder would pay, would be many times the tuition cost.
Something so obvious being ignored, would suggest that supposed extra income was really pie in the sky and they knew it.
The only problem with the free university education is that too many people go to university.
@@badgoogle9938 .
You would restrict university education only to those who have the money?
@@grahvis no its a question about economics, at the moment too many people go to university, if we reduce the number who go, making it free is more feasible. University should be for our brightest and most talented individuals, not for someone who can't get into their selected field because they weren't up to snuff.
@@badgoogle9938 .
What just make it harder to get into university? That would rule out many who were perfectly capable of being able to gain from it.
I always thought to idea was to get a better educated population not a worse one.
@@grahvis the idea is to fill jobs, the amount of students going through university makes it impossible for some people to do that which is why we have people with PhD doing "menial" jobs.
Yes, only our brightest should be going to university, there are many courses that serve no purpose in the outside world.
Going to university doesn't guarantee a better educated population, what university excel at is, being able to meet new people.
www.theguardian.com/education/ng-interactive/2020/sep/05/best-uk-universities-for-education-league-table has a few columns to sort by, universities are not fit for purpose in their current guise. Until we get the balance right, payment is needed.
I would prefer fewer students going to university who wouldn't need to pay.
University is there to keep others in a job
OUCH!!!!!! Lets pretend that this is just a comedy sketch and not an extremely accurate reflection of the system because frankly, I would be embarrassed to be part of a system which would allow such a con to be perpetrated and allowed/endorsed.....!
From the US - if he fails, his student loans are erased?
@@scott2673 No, if he fails he can't get a good job. If he doesn't have a well-paying job, he doesn't have to repay his loans until he gets one.
@@scott2673 after 30 years from the point of graduation/failure, student loans are cancelled, even if you still owe £££.
The current (official) estimate is that a majority of students will never repay their student loans in the 30 year period.
So there is a further economics case to be made that the "real" cost of a university education is less than the "paper" cost.
However, fees are higher, and no doubt rules are different, for students from overseas, so don't get your hopes up ;-)
Jason & Chilterns - thank you. At least UK kids aren’t majoring in ‘very helpful & wise’ (😒) subjects such as basket weaving & puppetry, right?
@@scott2673 do you fancy surf science, golf management, or folk music? (I promise I am not making that up)
Simply brilliant...the whole university funding system makes no sense ...
Very few students worry about repaying student loans .. because if you ask them they don't think they will get a well paying job .
So the loan is for a few years holiday getting drunk and getting away from home.
Even though you are mainly right, most university students do work hard because they have to. They’re just realistic about the job market.
A bit harsh, I recently graduated and worked really hard studying at University finding it a challenging and fulltime/overtime commitment to achieve.
Wanton greed. Corruption of every good will and good institution . Moral turpitude
I am delighted
Throwback to Good Will Hunting there!
I've met students who told me they were only going to Uni for the Uni experience of getting drunk all the time and having a good time with friends, they didn't care about the studying part.
The experience is well worth the money tbh
Like Bret Kavanaugh... HE LIKES BEER.. and now he is a SUPREME JUDGE
Did anyone else think that cake looked delicious 😋
Didn't see the cake, but now I really want to make some puppets.
Brilliant
Making sure my daughter finishes school and next year goes into a job that allows her to study part time. Straight out university is only good for outright career Jobs.
In grad school, I earned my stipend durig the summer by teaching bonehead math to students entering a dubious program called Masters of Arts Management. The students had all been math avoiders, as was required for admission into the program. That is, if you could do math, you would quickly calculate that there is no percentage in getting such a degree.
I haven’t seen Tracey since 1983s hit, They don’t know bout us,,,
University education, for students of lower socio-economic value, is a massive rort.
Amusing but wrong. It is true that the student gets something for nothing if he does not get a well paid job after graduating, but it does him no good to get that gift. If he gets a well paid job (where his knowledge is put to use) then he is better off overall despite losing a bit of money in the extra tax (theoretically loan repayment/interest payment).
It’s amazing how wrong you are.
@@BingleFlimp I am not wrong and have already explained the logic in my initial comment. In summary, you have to consider the overall utility of the life with and without making an effort at university and afterwards in getting a job. Just trying to minimise the amount paid on a degree (or just time at university) is narrow and irrational.
Tracy Ullman is funny. I've always found that, but she doesn't understand everything she jokes about.
@@matthewleitch1 You clearly have no experience with what you're trying to talk about.
@@BingleFlimp Your dismissive but short comments, with no reasoning, suggest you are just trying to wind me up. But (not that personal experience is relevant to the logic of decisions) my personal experience related to this question comes from a decade as a visiting lecturer at a UK business school, graduating myself a long time ago, and having three sons (two now graduated and established in promising careers and a third waiting to go to university). What did I lecture on? Managing risk and uncertainty, with a focus on management science including of course decision making under uncertainty.
@@matthewleitch1 The clear ignorance you are displaying in regards to the specific topic you have chosen to discuss drastically exceeds that which is expected from the average populace.
I hope they introduce Sock Puppets to MS Teams next rollout
Ace😂
The only part I understood was the cake.
Or, am I hungry?
The biggest joke here is that college only costs 9,000 a year.
This should be shown to the Department of Education… to let them know how screwed up their thinking is… give people / kids free money and they will just spend it… bugger the consequences
College mills..
That was depressing 😬
Well that was awkward 🤔😅.
What's the name of the song?
Lol.....nobody’s repaying their student loans...teachers get pay plus benefits plus promotion plus tenure plus housing plus govt subsidies and students get .....well, screwed.
@@_Meng_Lan Agree - certainly not in the UK, anyway.
40k a year...... thats minimum wage here!
Too many people go to college.
So busy being woke, they forgot to add comedy