I bow to you, Erdbeergnom. 17 points from 13 guesses crown you King of the losers in Harstem vs. the world. I follow your lead into the next challenge.
YES!!! Thank you for allowing me to be part of Rank Roulette. I'm honoured. That was another nice season. I hope you do something like that again. I really like it. Geetings from Germany, D.shadow
"How is this platinum?" One dude has 25 zealots without charge at 19 minutes and the other guy is massing void rays. My protoss is plat 1 and I don't build zealots without charge; you guys saying it was diamond/master had me thinking I was missing something. Lol nope.
Yeah that is what your typical Plat PvP has looked like for at least 5 years lmao. I wonder if lower level players have an inherent advantage in Rank Roulette.
@@finrodfel06 oh lower rank players absolutely have an advantage and its simply due to numbers... since these are viewer replays, they are from the general public so to speak... so they will roughly follow the standard distribution of players in the league - and the majority of players do not fall into masters and grandmaster... so any game shown in rank roulette is much more likely to be something they are familiar with than something the pro players are familiar with and if you play enough - you tend to remember most of the common patterns of your environment (like pro players figuring out what the other is doing by seeing their scout timings and minute changes in the build order - but that only really applies to their own environment)
I guessed plat 1 because almost no upgrades somehow after 20 minutes, one guy was floating 5k at 20m and finally found where the upgrade buttons are, seemed like they both just clicked their favorite unit and nothing else the whole game, then those guys are like "Masters" I don't think they looked at the timer..(edit: I mean ok no Harstem literally mentioned the time... Didn't really think it through maybe?)
I would love for harstem to have a live game with the winner of previous season among the viewers. Who knows, maybe it's a god with Galaxy sized brain, or maybe he is a fluke and was just lucky but have a story to share. Such an intrigue is to good to pass on
Mass is semi voidray is viable in pvp since they win in straight up fights. But once you get 12+ stalkers you just one shot and blink away Also skytoss can inflate the mmr a lot. Diamond 2 is the absolute highest it could of been.
Holy cow, Kelazhur is actually super super funny! When he called out Harstem for copium I was dying 😂 Kinda disappointed he won't be back on for the finale. Harstem, please find more excuses to bring funny guys like Kelazhur onto the channel!
Oof so rough for Kelazhur there I feel bad, but this is classic platinum. You can forget charge if you don’t build any zealots, it happens, but he sent a prism in the main and saw slow zealots then much later he STILL didn’t have charge. No way that’s diamond+, you see slow zealots at 15min and you just go “god dammit” and immediately research charge
I guessed the last game as solid plat (plat 1 would have been my pick) and was extremely surprised, Kelazhur after he said he played it safe picked masters. oO
I still don't understand why either of them thought that last game could be even diamond let alone masters. They acknowledged at the start that neither was using a real build and it was just mass stalker vs mass void ray. My rule of thumb is high plat/low diamond is when people start using real build orders (but executing them badly when faced with the slightest bit of aggression).
I am for a bigger Playoffs with double elim!! 4 feels quite low, double elim might be pushing it, but i just want more ranked roulette, also GSL groups format next season and bigger playoffs! bring in the VC money, make it big, make it GABE!!!
I don't know what they were smoking in the last round, I'm just glad he didn't get 11 points, so that there was no need for a tiebreaker (Hamster misspoke and said Serral had 12 points).
What a got feeling to exactly guess the final round to plat 2 when they guess masters and diamond. No way guys, look at the micro and every single blink was questionable. 😂
I felt that last game, as I am a toss in plat2. On the other hand, I think I belong higher if PvT was not absolutely broken with mines and tank pushes, but thinking I should be masters? Hell no! And those two in the replay, floating so much and having zealots without charge this late into the game? I understand not getting charge when you should, but at 20m, you really should have researched both charge and blink, just in case you need it.
Ok I ended up with 6 points from my guesses. I should be much happier with that result but I was going to say Plat 2 on the final one and them talking about how good it was made me second guess myself and I went up to Plat 1. I have no clue how they thought that was Diamond or masters… I really don’t see what they saw there to get them to that level.
Most protoss don't feel ashamed they just quit because the game is simply unfair, many of the best players in the world have attempted to play as protoss but really the only one to be a massive threat the last 10 years has been SoS. Its a big part of why SC2 is a corpse of the game it once was, WOL was pretty well balanced, it was the SC2 peak. LoV has been damn well broken since it release.
@@alistairbolden6340 Was talking shit back to the Captain talking shit to us, the community. Also, if you think it's a corpse of a game, why are you watching content for it?
My Guesses Diamond 1: 2 - The zerg's play is really annoying. He is one of those zergs who overmakes units in a big way hoping to get value from his units as his income in some way. The terran here went BC which completely shuts this down. I wouldn't be surprised if the zerg has a much higher winrate in ZvP and ZvZ. The terran's money floating was too poor. Masters 2: 0 - I'm convinced the zerg is Livibee. She plays like this every ZvP without variation. Platinum 2: 5 - Painful. The zerg was extremely good at spending his money but I guess I didn't take the 1/1 upgrades and 25 drones seriously enough. Gold 2: 4 They played decent in the theory but *everything was so late* it was very hard to guess. I was debating anywhere between gold 3 and plat 1. Score: 11
Even plat is too good for that last one. I'd have given them gold3-1, most likely gold2, because this is the play ive seen oh so many times. And I'm protoss as well and my pvp sucks so much that every other match up has 10%+ winrate advantage over pvp, especially pvz.
pqp mano, como que vc olha pra aquele ultimo jogo e pensa: masters 3?!, Brother, eu joguei P1 e foi já bem arrojado, mas Masters? em que planeta esse jogo era melhor que os últimos 2 Diamonds?, saudações e parabéns pelos fãs brasileiros do canal. 2/0/2/2 que pena esse ultimo estava torcendo por vc mano.
the last match play like me and i guess plat. doing nothing, good at playing moba, don't invest much in upgrade, over expand when wining, doesn't know how to close the game.
I can't believe Hamster would sabotage Diego like that 😔 Starcraft 2 really is cutthroat. We should have known the zerg cabal would never allow Serral to be knocked out of the finals
I bow to you, Erdbeergnom. 17 points from 13 guesses crown you King of the losers in Harstem vs. the world. I follow your lead into the next challenge.
Haha thanks. I am glad it is over since you came closer and closer in the last few weeks. Congrats to you as well :)
@@Erdbeergnomyou two crushed it this season, 17 points is almost a perfect score
I think Harstem should invite both of you to play rank roulette live next season
@@blueplayer6197 that would be glorious indeed. Also big Thanks to Hamster for organizing. You're the real champ!
@@blueplayer6197 that'd be lit, the HVW champion always gets invited for next season would be a great idea.
It's about time we have a compilation of Hamster introducing Harstem
Tough break at the end there. Good job Kelazhur
Love seeing more of these pros actually having a public presence. Kelazhur is awesome, not quite Dark levels of funny but still great.
YES!!!
Thank you for allowing me to be part of Rank Roulette.
I'm honoured.
That was another nice season. I hope you do something like that again. I really like it.
Geetings from Germany,
D.shadow
I think the winner should be invited to the next season :)
That is an awesome prize imho, and also fun to see what they would be able to accomplish :)
"How is this platinum?" One dude has 25 zealots without charge at 19 minutes and the other guy is massing void rays. My protoss is plat 1 and I don't build zealots without charge; you guys saying it was diamond/master had me thinking I was missing something. Lol nope.
Yeah that is what your typical Plat PvP has looked like for at least 5 years lmao. I wonder if lower level players have an inherent advantage in Rank Roulette.
My Toss is Diamond 3, and this feels a lot like the worst Protoss players I play against. I guessed Diamond 3.
@@finrodfel06 oh lower rank players absolutely have an advantage and its simply due to numbers...
since these are viewer replays, they are from the general public so to speak... so they will roughly follow the standard distribution of players in the league - and the majority of players do not fall into masters and grandmaster... so any game shown in rank roulette is much more likely to be something they are familiar with than something the pro players are familiar with
and if you play enough - you tend to remember most of the common patterns of your environment (like pro players figuring out what the other is doing by seeing their scout timings and minute changes in the build order - but that only really applies to their own environment)
mass void rays was the give-away for me (I guessed plat 3)
I guessed plat 1 because almost no upgrades somehow after 20 minutes, one guy was floating 5k at 20m and finally found where the upgrade buttons are, seemed like they both just clicked their favorite unit and nothing else the whole game, then those guys are like "Masters" I don't think they looked at the timer..(edit: I mean ok no Harstem literally mentioned the time... Didn't really think it through maybe?)
I would love for harstem to have a live game with the winner of previous season among the viewers. Who knows, maybe it's a god with Galaxy sized brain, or maybe he is a fluke and was just lucky but have a story to share. Such an intrigue is to good to pass on
I may only be 25th in vs the world, but I smoked both of you this episode with 4 points total (0,0,2,2)
I got 5 points 0,2,0,3
That's so sad for Kelazhur but they both really dropped the ball in that slow zealot, mass void ray mirror matchup lol
Mass is semi voidray is viable in pvp since they win in straight up fights. But once you get 12+ stalkers you just one shot and blink away
Also skytoss can inflate the mmr a lot. Diamond 2 is the absolute highest it could of been.
I like this Kelazhur guy, would be fun to have a beer with.
Nothing against kelazhur but i am so happy we got serral for atleast one more rank roulette this year.
Diego is so cool and chill
Omfg kelazhur has such a fucking perfectly chiseled gigs had chin.
I'm 100% straight and I'm swooning a little
Well sure, if you are a women I se no logical falacy here.
im a plat protoss 2 and i approve of last round
That final round was crazy, I wasn't sure if mass viodray was a real comp or not I don't play protoss. I guessed diamond 1
I had Platinum 2 on the final one. Didn't write down my calls for the others, but that was my one good read. Great season!
Captain's camera froze multiple times
Couldn't handle his awesome puns
That last game was the biggest slap to the face 😂
Holy cow, Kelazhur is actually super super funny! When he called out Harstem for copium I was dying 😂 Kinda disappointed he won't be back on for the finale. Harstem, please find more excuses to bring funny guys like Kelazhur onto the channel!
Oof so rough for Kelazhur there I feel bad, but this is classic platinum. You can forget charge if you don’t build any zealots, it happens, but he sent a prism in the main and saw slow zealots then much later he STILL didn’t have charge. No way that’s diamond+, you see slow zealots at 15min and you just go “god dammit” and immediately research charge
Always enjoy the show Harstem! Thanks
I guessed the last game as solid plat (plat 1 would have been my pick) and was extremely surprised, Kelazhur after he said he played it safe picked masters. oO
21:22 Resonates HARD XD I have a 90% win rate on PvP over two years, and 40% on PvT and PvZ
that last round was a banger lmao
glad to have another episode. Cheers
Enjoyed the hell out of this one Captain!
It was fun to see Kelazhur but also wish Artosis could have made another appearance.
I still don't understand why either of them thought that last game could be even diamond let alone masters. They acknowledged at the start that neither was using a real build and it was just mass stalker vs mass void ray. My rule of thumb is high plat/low diamond is when people start using real build orders (but executing them badly when faced with the slightest bit of aggression).
Harstem, Destroyer of Worlds.
Such a nice fellow! ❤ Loved every bit of it!
Oh no, the choke on the last one was unbelievable.
also, with these camera freezes i think it's time to capitalize and become the new jerma
Thought I was way off on my final round plat 1 guess when Diego said m3 😆. Poor guy
first! Love your casts Harstem, got me back into sc2!
I am for a bigger Playoffs with double elim!! 4 feels quite low, double elim might be pushing it, but i just want more ranked roulette, also GSL groups format next season and bigger playoffs! bring in the VC money, make it big, make it GABE!!!
Last match the army of blink stalkers with 50% of them regularly trapped out of attack range has to say something well below masters.
I don't know what they were smoking in the last round, I'm just glad he didn't get 11 points, so that there was no need for a tiebreaker (Hamster misspoke and said Serral had 12 points).
yeah im with diego, that plat was rough!
4pts this episode, finally learnt how to dodge the tricky bullets
Lowkey happy to see Serral make it through
Your a loser for spoiling...
Ah, I should have been the 2nd there. I got to do more practice runs for next rank roulette. :D
The reason the last guy is plat is the forgetting charge for 17 minutes lol
What a got feeling to exactly guess the final round to plat 2 when they guess masters and diamond. No way guys, look at the micro and every single blink was questionable. 😂
Damn finally someone actually fell for the Harstem mindgames lol.
I guessed Plat 1 on the last game, yeeeeeeeeet lol
lmao Serral is safe 🎉
My guesses:
D1-D1-G1-D2
2-3-3-4
total: 12
I felt that last game, as I am a toss in plat2. On the other hand, I think I belong higher if PvT was not absolutely broken with mines and tank pushes, but thinking I should be masters? Hell no! And those two in the replay, floating so much and having zealots without charge this late into the game? I understand not getting charge when you should, but at 20m, you really should have researched both charge and blink, just in case you need it.
I can't believe he thought they was masters. I was thinking immediately plat one or two. No one goes mass voids past plat
Ok I ended up with 6 points from my guesses. I should be much happier with that result but I was going to say Plat 2 on the final one and them talking about how good it was made me second guess myself and I went up to Plat 1. I have no clue how they thought that was Diamond or masters… I really don’t see what they saw there to get them to that level.
I went 0, 2, 2, 2. Should been 0, 2, 2, 0.
Kelazhur, if somehow you're reading this, you have the greatest name in all of SC2
If one is smurfing you have to go by the opponent
i got 6 point on this one! always bet the 2s
My guesses, D3, M1, G3, P1
the brazilian legend!!
Please, explain me, why the difference between diamond 1 and diamond 2 is a whole 2 points, and not just 1 point? It doesn’t make any sense, does it?
I got 0 - 0 - 4 - 3
So I finished with 7 points this round. Very cool!
imagine if husky could be a guest in this😊
I guessed plat 1 for last game wewt
Owwww... Masters 3... I think that's a bit high.. Diamond 2 maybe.
The last game the big tell was apm lol they were slow as fuck
I don't think you spelled Finnish correctly in the description.
15:40 harstem master ventriloquist
Is it me or is Harstem's voice very low pitched in this video? He sounds slightly different
We as a community feel as ashamed as Protosses do for their tournament win rate my captain =)
Most protoss don't feel ashamed they just quit because the game is simply unfair, many of the best players in the world have attempted to play as protoss but really the only one to be a massive threat the last 10 years has been SoS. Its a big part of why SC2 is a corpse of the game it once was, WOL was pretty well balanced, it was the SC2 peak. LoV has been damn well broken since it release.
@@alistairbolden6340 Was talking shit back to the Captain talking shit to us, the community. Also, if you think it's a corpse of a game, why are you watching content for it?
My Guesses
Diamond 1: 2 - The zerg's play is really annoying. He is one of those zergs who overmakes units in a big way hoping to get value from his units as his income in some way. The terran here went BC which completely shuts this down. I wouldn't be surprised if the zerg has a much higher winrate in ZvP and ZvZ. The terran's money floating was too poor.
Masters 2: 0 - I'm convinced the zerg is Livibee. She plays like this every ZvP without variation.
Platinum 2: 5 - Painful. The zerg was extremely good at spending his money but I guess I didn't take the 1/1 upgrades and 25 drones seriously enough.
Gold 2: 4 They played decent in the theory but *everything was so late* it was very hard to guess. I was debating anywhere between gold 3 and plat 1.
Score: 11
Where are the new who wants to be a grandmaster 🎉
Why don't you invite Mana????
no charge dead giveaway
Even plat is too good for that last one. I'd have given them gold3-1, most likely gold2, because this is the play ive seen oh so many times.
And I'm protoss as well and my pvp sucks so much that every other match up has 10%+ winrate advantage over pvp, especially pvz.
Serral vs NA
2 - 0 - 4 - 2 okay im fine with 8 points
Nobody got round 1 correct and you didn't recognize penguin brothers in game 3. GG
pqp mano, como que vc olha pra aquele ultimo jogo e pensa: masters 3?!, Brother, eu joguei P1 e foi já bem arrojado, mas Masters? em que planeta esse jogo era melhor que os últimos 2 Diamonds?, saudações e parabéns pelos fãs brasileiros do canal.
2/0/2/2
que pena esse ultimo estava torcendo por vc mano.
Holy, my first perfect game
Sadly Brain dead Terrans don't realise how much more skill is required for other races (as Terran player I may not be serious).
Man i feel so related to the description for toss player... un-winable pvz and pvt haha. only good at pvp
I used to think this show was the worst on the channel. Now I like it. Might still be worst cuz the other shows are better though.
7 points. That round was pretty easy honestly, highest point round was 3 points lol
the last match play like me and i guess plat.
doing nothing, good at playing moba, don't invest much in upgrade, over expand when wining, doesn't know how to close the game.
I can't believe Hamster would sabotage Diego like that 😔 Starcraft 2 really is cutthroat. We should have known the zerg cabal would never allow Serral to be knocked out of the finals
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