The Problem With Kait in Gears of War + Analysis
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Explaining/Discussing the Problems with Kait Diaz in the Sequel Gears of War games, Gears of War 4 and Gears 5. And why this Character is not very good and also a problem for the Gears franchise.
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"Screw your order, this is not about you"
Wow. Just wow.
How the hell did this not result in her getting shot on sight?
Idk but try doing that in the Marines 😂
@@mr.madness908 Exactly
If JD would have slapped her there then JD would have been based. 👌
Who would want leading you in real life Marcus or Kait?... exactly... terrible character.
Marcus Fenix made gears of war... and by throwing him away and trying to force kait in our faces killed it.
Cuz Shes under the TC Protection
Marcus - disobeyed orders and got cort marshaled.
Baird - disobeyed orders, stole top secret military equipment, and almost got the death penalty
Kat - disobeyed orders, tells superiors and the first commissioner to go fudge themselves, and nothing happens.
Exactly. I didn't mind Kait in Gears 4, but in 5 the campaign was so... unsatisfying. It was like she was that one little kid who never gets in trouble for stuff the older sibling does
@@skeeto9436 Nah in 4 her being hostile almost most the time is just annoying like bitch, Marcus is a veteran and HE IS HELPING YOU! Reason why he got captured? HELPING YOU. How you got armor? FROM MARCUS, who honestly should have just retrieved the armor from her because first and foremost that armor is his wife's HIS FAMILY HEIRLOOM. Hell he even called reinforcements to HELP HER GET TO HER MOM, and gee Marcus son is also a fucking asshole here with how he acts when meeting him again in 4.
Based Baird.
Marcus punched out Hoffman and took a piece of the Hammer with him that resulted in a lot of people dying.
Baird used a a very powerful rocket against orders from an uptight dick.
Kait disobeys and order given by he friend that while her CO isn’t exactly Lumis levels of prideful. He also then basically said fuck it and sent Del with her. As for Jin 1. Her order of getting re hooked up to the Hive Mind is probably impossible 2. Her guards almost got Smoked by Del, Fahz, and Cole with Marcus ( the literal hero of the Locust War) and Baird ( who controls all her mechs and robots) on Kait’s Side. Don’t get me wrong I hate Kaits character but she disobeying an order from a friend who let it go and a really weak First Minister is not on Marcus or Baird levels.
Gears of war 5 its too woke that even the original creators criticized it.
“The problem with Kait in Gears of War:”
1. *She exists*
Another problem she was a plot point like seriously it should've been JD or anya that would make more sense than giving the game to a character with barely any build up.
I’m all for new Gears characters. After all, in Gears 3 we were introduced to Sam and she was pretty bad-ass. But they tried too damn hard with Kait
The more of these videos I watch the more she seems like she was traced out of the same hole Rey was.
@@bitchpudding2945 by killing off characters because of how the devs wanted it and because of Kaits stupidity
@@curtismcpsycho8212 “barely any build up”
Her town was invaded and almost everyone she cared about was dead, the entire plot of Gears 4 is to find her mother, as they slowly get dragged into a war with the old enemy, she's forced to kill her mother, which later gets turned into a vessel for Myrrah's consciousness, when the group doesn't know what to do she guides then, when she's not sure what to do, they guide her, she never listened to anyone, not even agreeing with her mother when she said they would stay and not go away, even though the COG was literally trying to kill then for a crime they didn't commit, she's literally related to Myrrah, which the sole existence of Reyna and Kait makes the whole thing of the locust hunting them down make sense.
Really pissed that she didn't become the new queen. It would have been an emotional moment with JD struggling to kill Kate, even though he knows he has to at the end of Gears 6. But no, they had to play it safe and keep Kate's mom alive and now we will be going into Gears 6 with a story about mom and daughter struggles that we don't care about because there was nothing to care about to begin with.
@ARC Commander CT-420 Most definitely.
Honestly that was what I would have done if I was the writer. (Apologies in advance if anyone considers this TLDR)
The idea I had is that the Swarm were a falseflag operation conducted by the more fascistic elements of the New COG military. They used left over Locust specimens to counter the growing Outsider movement. The New COG could say "See, the world is dangerous you NEED US we will protect you, all you have to do is obey us!"
Now the problem is that the Locust evolved into the Swarm and grew beyond and now have become a real threat that they cannot control. That is until they hear of Kait Diaz and her lineage. So they would want to acquire her to turn her into their pet queen and use her to control the swarm for them. In this story Kait was never cured in Act 2 and Queen Reyna (Queen Queen how stupid) would not exist.
This story would also embrace the concept of a "Dark JD" which was hinted at but, sadly, was wasted! JD is determined to escape Marcus' shadow by embracing the New COG. But he won't have been told everything. He'll just be told that securing Kait will save humanity and so will do so for the greater good and will follow his orders without question.
Furthermore in Act 3 Fahz and JD would just be pretending to be friendly as a cover for their mission. Once everyone returned to New Ephyra (in Act 4) the Onyx Guard would arrive and Kait would be detained. This would kick off a COG civil war of sorts as some of the cast would be opposed to this. Then the Swarm would attack and Kait would escape along with Del in the chaos.
JD and Fahz would eventually catch up to Kait and Del. JD warns them to surrender but Del refuses tries to convince JD to let Kait go but the situation deteriorates and ends with Del being shot and killed. Kait is saddened and enraged and uses her power to take control of some nearby swarm creatures reinforcing that she is indeed a threat. JD and Fahz fight them off and seem to have Kait cornered but then the Leviathan (giant worm thing) appears and seemingly swallows her then burrows back underground carrying Kait to safety elsewhere.
Kait realizes that she will be declared a monster and that she has no where left to turn but to the swarm itself. She'll have to use the power of the swarm to protect herself from those she once called her friends.
This is far from perfect and needs more work but I think its a far better story than what TC shat out.
@@gregorycalhoun2019 local rando in yt comments overshadows professional writers in their own field, more at 8.
I'm curious to see if Kait might hookup with JD in gears 6
You’ve seen too much Disney Star Wars
I thought Kate was going to be the main villain. All of her actions indicate her as the worst asset to the COG. It is crazy how little we know about the Delta Squad and Kate despite having two games so far. The star should be Marcus or Cole or his family maybe.
The previous games showcased sticking together, watching out for each other's backs, and empowering everyone to keep on fighting. All she does is have temper tantrums like an angry 10 year old and walks off on her own abandoning everyone. It's sad they tried to depict her being "strong" when instead she was actually very very stupid.
@@senseisentai94 ❤️❤️❤️
JD made sense and is a lot closer to being an actual character than Kait
@@TheRedGyardos you're kinda right 4 and 5 should've been JD's games cait could have the 7th lol.
@@TheRedGyardos yeah jd’s huge character development in five made me want to play as him even more.
It sucks that they can’t make a relatable or interesting character. They want to check off the boxes of inclusiveness while lacking the likeablity factor. It sucks that when a woman is the main character and has a leadership role she is typically a maga-asshole with no likeable qualities that only cares about herself. The only 2 examples that I’ve ever come across where non of that was the case was Captain Janeway from Star Trek: Voyager and Ripley from the Aliens movies. They were just real people in tough situations that made the best choices they could while having to deal with and take the responsibilities of casualties and or the situation not turning out to the way they hoped. Both are incredibly badass, relatable and inspiring and set the bar for what female leader characters should be.
What about Sarah Connor from terminator 2?
@@ghostflame9211 Man probably forgot or is one of the few Venezuelan village dwellers that have not seen the movie
@9ine9ine1ne stoopid hi there a bit late I know but she's a whiney childish wind bag that has no character outside of saying she has one not to mention when you stack her up to the other female gears characters she reads like dead weight more than a genuine asset to the group and story
We need more Joana Darks and Lara Crofts. Less of this stuff. Gimme some Laurie Strode type of badass not just some chick that's a douche to everyone.
thats what happens when diversity is their main goal, wish game studios would focus on likeable aspects and then add diversity, look at cole compared to del. They probably didnt want to do another character like cole bc it would be sterotypical, but the thing that studios dont get is you could have a good character and not have them be some type of sterotype
"This isn't about you, it's about me!" is probably the most idiotic response I've ever heard.
The entirety of Delta squad seemed like actual people, making good decisions and even though they didn't got along pretty well, they were always supporting each other. Kait on the other hand doesn't give a literal fuck about anyone around her, you're either with her or *against* her, there's no middle ground.
Wait a second, does that mean Kait is a sith?
Also who the hell thought it'd be better to name her Kait instead of Kate
The Virgin “this isn’t about you it’s about me”
Vs
The Chad “she’s my fucking wife”
If I was on JD's team I would've pointed my snub at her and shot her point blank. Problem solved. I might be court-martialed for killing a senior officer or executed by a chainsaw but hey I saved the world...kinda
I mean, there was also the fact that she was grieving, she was being mentally instable from the connection too. She just killed her own uncle if she didnt do something who knew who will be next?
@@titanus261if done right, not phoned it in
I remember back in the day in gears if u break orders u get sentenced to 40 years in jail...
Or a firing squad.
….. and they.:… sigh are we supposed to pretend they fucking forget or “improved” theor punishments
Dom broke orders and didn't face any punishment from the cog, neither him or Marcus who followed him along.....
@@sebastiansuazo2734 Marcus was sent to prison for 40 years to cuz he went to save his father....
@@sebastiansuazo2734 Because Marcus never reported him. There little diversion didn't jeopardise their mission in any way. Kait basically gave the Swarm their Queen, undoing the victory from 4 and made an enemy the new COG could barely cope with as it is infinitely more dangerous.
She gives me alot of Mary sue vibes like Rey from starwars
Isn't that the truth lmao. Goes from a nobody outsider, to of course being an old main antagonists daughter, to basically leading the COG, being shrouded by plot armor, arrogant and bitchy, and as he said, only cares for herself, trying to boss everyone around, and randomly getting instant respect by old characters. Even disobeying direct orders and not getting shot or arrested when everyone that did that before her, would face consequences immediately. But no, Mary Sue saves the day, even putting her as the new face of the franchise after being a side character in just 1 game. I'm all for badass female characters like Sam, Anya, Bernie etc etc, but this is so forced that it hurts.
@@joshuaflynn7324 Took the words right out my mouth
best comment
Bro this is fax
Yup
She would be a good character if she slowly became the new queen but nooooo reyna is all the sudden alive again
How tf does Marcus ,who was the protagonist in the og trilogy, have a kid and he’s not the main character?!?!
You not play gears 4?
I’m talking about him in gears 5? Mans was straight ass homie they gave his character a bad rep just because.
@@illuminose6494 his story could've been SO much better than kait's
worst part is they actually gave him a little bit more depth in five which was a huge issue of his character in four just for him to not be in majority of the game
Kate: This isn't about you, it's about ME!!!!!
Me: Who are you again?
I would’ve liked to see JD become the main protagonist in gears 6 once again, unlike Kait and Del, he actually had some great character development in gears 5, from him making a terrible mistake at the beginning, to becoming a more responsible soldier (who maybe follows orders a little bit too rigidly), to someone that’s fully matured by the end and ends up in a similar mindset to Marcus from gears 3 after witnessing Del’s death.
Agreed.
Yep, that's what I'm hoping for Gears of War 6. And Kait must become the main antagonist, damn, she should've become by the end of Gears of War 5 but they wasted that story the same way as 343 wasted Halo 5 story lol
yeah seeing JD actually get some development just to not be in the majority of the game did not sit well with me lol
Kait ALWAYS has a chip on her shoulder and it irks me to no end. In G4 I just wanted Marcus to tell her to shup up and stop being an aboslute bitch to everyone. They decided to help her, she didn't strongarm them into helping so her behaviour and attitute is unwarranted towards them. She matured a bit in 5 but she still was arrogant and still had that chip on her shoulder. Kait is an example of a badly written character and had she not been portrayed as such I would have liked her a lot more.
I wanted to see Marcus apply a percussive attitude adjustment. Baird is also a raging asshole, but unlike Kait, Baird is both useful and dependable, so he is allowed a certain amount of sass.
It’s funny how companies that are created for the sole purpose of the given franchise i.e The Coalition and 343 struggle so hard to recapture what made the games by the predecessors so good.
No they're created to milk brand names
we should just hop back on gears 3 that's what I did and surprisingly other people still play that game
@@diffsnicker4664 how is it surprising when that was the last great gears game
Because they went woke bs instead of hardcore masculitity like the og gears of war games we're all about.
Crazy how for Xbox exclusives the numbers 4 and 5 are usually awful
I extremely hate her, and I didn’t see a lot of people so I legit searched up “gears of war Kate slander” and found this gem. I can’t believe she made either JD or Dell die. It was her fault all her fault and I despise her for it.
Jd and del are as lame characters as her tho.
Kid, it was not her fault the writing team decided they lose their guns xd
@@JohnDoe-pu5gk lame but not annoying like her.
It was on purpose they tried to make you dislike JD the whole game and made Dell your wingman so you would pick him but im sure most of the player base sacrificed Dell
@@JohnDoe-pu5gk jd is cool since hes a fenix
" Captain, Screw your orders!" = Turns to walk away (shot dead for disobeying orders...)
And Gnashers her body to keep the Swarm from using it.
10:17 YES! Why the heck did Gears throw Anya out like old garbage? I freaking love Anya and am so pissed they killed her off between 3 and 4. If she’s even really dead, I can see Jinn keeping her alive in a test tube situation in secret.
Yeah why did they kill off Anya if there is a next gears of war game I want it made by Epic games because if it isn’t it will most likely be trash
Because then they couldn't say, "First strong female character." because there'd literally be one in the same game.
Yasssss Queen 😔💅
I feel like Jinn killed her to take her position, and the bullshit "canon reason" is her cover story.
Man if Kait had that Sas during the Locust war, then she'd be sent in the front lines and never will be heard of.
Isn't she fertile?
SOW CAMPS.
You can definitely tell these developers have an agenda. God, even saying it like that makes me cringe, but there's no other way to put it. You can tell that that they wanted this "strong, female, lead", which is fine, but not at the expense of established characters. It's like what they did in Game of Thrones final season. They made Tyrion, who used to be the smartest character in the show, into this self-guessing, non- planning moron so they can make the female characters look better. There's nothing wrong with having a female as the lead IF IT MAKES SENSE. Kait was the lowest ranking person in the group and they made her take the lead?? Like, did the Coaltion forget how this is a military game and those with a higher rank usually takes the lead..? It's just infuriating and I know I definitely won't be playing Gears 6 whenever it comes out.
Last chance better make Marcus protagonist forever no one can replace him like master chief
sucks to say Marcus is getting old so Realistic the only real way not have to Replace Marcus would be Set Future Gears in the Past.
When Marcus abandoned his duty for personal reasons. He got thrown in prison for fourteen years.
When Kait does it. She gets a pat on the back and a “you go girl!”
Nah u said that right
And Baird went to trial lol
@@andycabrera919 wait i have a question is gears of war 3 happend before because in gears of war one you ended the locust with the bomb and is still alive but in gears of war 3 he dies so?
@@javonteakingofgod283 in gears 1 the bomb didn’t kill all of the locust so then gears 2 happened and in 3 Marcus dad finds the cure and ends everything
@@andycabrera919 oh thanks
its funny that kait is getting the same treatment as captain marvel and is the center for the entire series even though they were only recently introduced.
I like how everyone says she is the first strong female character in gears and everyone's like 'yeah but Anya'
Dafuq is with that. You have Queen Myrrah or does she not count as a strong independent woman who dont need no man because she is the villain?
@IChaseIUA-cam who even knows
I was so mad when I heard 5 threw JD away to focus on Kait.. JD was the far more interesting character.. And I didn't like they turned him into an asshole from what I heard. It was his charming personality that I liked about him, and enjoyed playing as him..
@IChaseIUA-cam I was going by other reviews. Glad he's not
JD is a fantastic character, the standard video game cocky protagonist who’s really living in the shadow of his war hero dad, who, in his efforts to basically live up to him, ends up getting people killed and himself wounded and severely changes him. I genuinely like JD
Having Kait basically being Marcus’ favourite just kind of robs the actually good character of his...well, character
well said
he is my second favorite character in the series after Markus and I really liked that he was the protagonist in gears 4 and in act 1 of gears 5 JD had a amazing story but then they just jump to kait and left jd behind
i’m not a fan of jd but you have a really good point
JD could have been better developed. Instead of a young adult with something to prove, he's a teenager with daddy issues. Worse yet, they dragged Marcus down the same path.
I do not know why so much hate. I mean of course she hasnt been condemn because JD didnt do anything about it, if it was someone else of course there will be consequences.
Kait had potential to have a very strong arc, but they fumbled her so hard
That’s why we’re all so mad this could have been amazing but they just absolutely horrendously fucked it
And also a deep five into the locust would have been awesome, think what would happen if a situation where delta squad had to work with the locust happened. Let assume well written because anything can be bad with bad writing.
I've never been a fan of these artificial, fabricated badasses with zero depth or qualities. Never been appealing to me.
Her character doesn't fit in Gears of War. She feels like one one of the newer female roles on TWD, or Rey From SW.
Exactly right.
JD got character development
Del is made to be more JD backstory, since he has none of his own
Kait is dragged along for the rjde
It's more about JD, but the Coalition don't like that
the feminists infiltrated the coalition
@@stephenjamieson1267 INTRUDER ALERT!
FEMINISTS IN THE BASE!
@@yazidefirenze A feminist is inside the base?
Del is and are Delta Squads retarded Clown....
The story and cutscene of this videogame has been influenced by Marvel movie with humor.
this whole game felt like a fucking marvel movie that explains why I didn't like it
So it was ok for Kait to basically go awol... but Marcus got thrown in The Slab for going to save his dad. Or Baird getting permanently demoted to Private for trying to save the world from more destruction? Shits weird to me. She’s a good side character but definitely a boring lead in my eyes.
Most of the cog government died off after gear 3
@@ashtoningram3654 I guess they got softer than a noodle too
Totally forgot Baird got that end of the stick 💀💀💀
I mean Marcus did take a crucial peice of a thing with him that lead to so many people dying by locust
I'll be sure to take that under advisement, Kait. Now move it.
that's how everyone in the OG gears of war games would've talked to kait
Totally agree. I know I'm going to be unpopular, but I think it can all be summed up in the harsh reality: Gears of War is a game of men for men. Stop. And with this I don't want to take anything away from women, simply Gears is a game of muscles, blood, fear, brotherhood, sweat, sadness, jokes between men, contempt of danger. This is Gears of War. Not a parade of little men chasing the tough girl with short hair obeying all of her orders.
exactly
It's a story about bros for bros. An entitled woman ruins the dynamic. The two soft boys with her didn't help either.
Man!! Thank you for speaking out for all the gears of war lovers out there, including myself 🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@SerKikoSmore You're the only one in all this comment section who can't understand this simple fact. Come on, go back to the special kids classroom dude.
Dude holy shit you nailed completely. Could not agree more
There's only one thing I like abou the coalition gears so far. Barid and Sam hooked up in the end. I love it so much because Barid is awkward as all hell about it.
The little wave he gives her when she arrives in 4 gets me every time!
Nice to see fellow Sam and Baird fans in the comments.
I really dont like this character. The new character are all pretty bad but kait is next level. "Its not about you, its about me!!!!!" Really, a temper tantrum in gears.
The choice to make kait of all characters thr fucking main character is rediculous. The original 4 main characters worked so well becuase they balanced each other out, they joked and took the piss out of each other, just like real friends. That balance was missing in gears 4 and was D.O.A in gears 5
After playing as Marcus for so long, being forced to play Kait was utterly insufferable. They tried to come up with a strong female lead and gave us a Rey.
Because Rey is the basically the “ultimate” strong female character to all these high budget studios.
The only reason why someone like Kait would be made the protagonist of a Gears of War game would be to push the idea of equality. Ironically enough, they portrayed her with all the negative stereotypes associated with women. Constantly complaining, can't do anything without getting emotional, and having to have everything her way.
Why are writers so incapable of creating a genuinely powerful female lead? Marcus was powerful because he kept his emotions in check, was stoic in the hardest of times, but also showed his soul through subtle interactions (such as the scene with Maria in GOW2). Anya was a powerful character because, even though she was much more expressive than the other characters, she was still hard as nails and actually capable of handling the horrors of war. Even if Kait was just a emulation of either of them, she would've been 10x better than the character she ended up being.
@@IncredibleFulk1 rey is a great example because she is a shitty shallow character covered in plot armor.
@@lewisjones284 It also helps that literally every other character in the franchise has something magical..... something called a...... dare i say it...... a P E R S O N A L I T Y. Kait is a blank canvas with shit sprayed on it.
Could've been Sam, or Alex Brand that would've been cool.
Gears of War 6
Kait: We need to go for the queen. Take her out. End this.
JD: Kait, No...
Kait: I'm doing it whether you're with me or not.
Baird: Kait...
Kait: You can't stop me!
Marcus: KAIT!
[silence]
Marcus: Kait, you are NOT going for the queen! We are defending New Ephyra! That's a goddamn order!
Kait: Screw your order! Screw you all!
Marcus: Listen here. We've lost a lot in this war. You've gone AWOL, you've been dragged along for the ride, without anything really to do! My son could've DIED because of you! His friend DIED because of you! You decided to do whatever you wanted like you were an almighty being! Well you know what?
[Marcus holds up his lancer]
Marcus: We're defending New Ephyra. You can go get yourself killed for all I care.
[Marcus walks back to New Ephyra. Baird follows, alongside Cole]
Kait: You coming with me?
JD: No. You go with us or go alone.
[JD walks back to New Ephyra]
[Kait goes to walk away, but thinks against it, turns around and runs to New Ephyra with the others]
That's more plot progression and character development in this one comment than the Devs gave to Kait
I hope this happens, Marcus needs to show his leadership and Authority again
I feel like Marcus losing his son, and getting mad at Kait for disobeying orders would be more impactful.
I read this with there voices in my head it sounds perfect
@@kaidenhall2718 So did I when making this.
It's hard to do Marcus' voice
But easy as to imagine.
Example:
Marcus: I've got a bag of oranges and nowhere to put them!
Too many women with active Twitter accounts in the writer's room.
Wolfman7870
Indeed dear viewer, most of them have no talent or experience.
Fuck of, you conservative neocon waste of space. Just go away, we are all sick of you now.
@@neilwilson5785 shut the hell up
@@neilwilson5785 Chill, lol.
@@neilwilson5785 Kait is garbage
Coalition hopefully knows we saved JD, because lets face it we all saved JD, is because of Marcus.
You hit the nail on the head. She’s only the protagonist because they told us she was, not because she earned it. My biggest issue with kait was how forcibly she was thrust into the spotlight. Before gears 4, We were told that the new trilogy was going to be dedicated to the next generation of gears, even introducing us to the son of the original protagonist. But it was such a bait and switch. The story stopped being about jd, and it was suddenly about kait for no reason. They shoehorned her as the locust queen’s granddaughter, as if that would make us care about her. My friend offered to play thru gears 4 and 5 co-op with me, but only if she played as kait. I had no qualms with it, and it was more enjoyable
Benjamin and Anthony, we dint even see there faces and I cared more about them than I care about kait, I nearly cried when benjamin died😢
If the writing team had wanted Kait to earn *some* kind of respect, they’d have ditched the “choice” segment in favor of her holding the knife to her own throat. The Swarm wanted her, not her friends, because she was what they intended - possibly needed - to function as their integrated queen in order to make things come together. Putting herself on the line after everything they had done for her would have been the right progression both logically and emotionally. After making ALL the worst possible decisions and selfishly shoving the whole world to the brink by essentially accelerating a new apocalypse, self sacrifice would have been an action showing that she was learning her lesson (to a degree). The reason we didn’t see that is because the writing team didn’t believe she had done anything wrong.
And of course the taboo of suicide in our world
@@diofantaodemwingie177 Threatening suicide to keep her friends from being strangled and to also keep from being kidnapped and dragged to a fate worse than death isn’t the same thing as “boo hoo I’m too depressed to realize I need psychiatric treatment so I’m gonna off myself now.” That should be fairly obvious.
@@LtDavidB312 Depression is not a joke. Suicide is a choice whetever the reason is. But the people who want it to comit it got discrimination because they can't understand. Anyway I agree that option should be able to take in the game
@sleeping bear “boo hoo I’m too depressed to realize I need psychiatric treatment so I’m gonna off myself now.” that's the joke about depression
Her origin story begins in a boardroom somewhere:
“We need a strong, masculine, sexually ambiguous female character who don’t take no shit”.
That’s it.
Making Kait the lead just because she's female is an insult. Anya was always one of my favorite characters because she had a personality and she kept it throughout the series, even when she was all military. Kati was just kind of shoehorned into the franchise and was never given a personality that would make her worthy of a strong female lead role. I love it when videogames have strong female lead because it shows that games can be inclusive while still being realistic with how a woman would react in certain situations. Kait is never a good example to use as a strong female lead because she just doesn't fit the profile. Her character is more a side character that gets caught up in the mess and eventually is shoved down our throats as a strong female lead. Give her more dimensions to her personality and character then we will see how strong she really is.
It felt like the Disney version of Gears of War. The emotion throughout the Gears series felt forced and empty. Kate had a superhero make up in that she couldn’t be defeated and everything else and everyone else was secondary
Gears was great with Marcus as the main protagonist of the game.
This is like making a game about Space Marines and having the MC be a skinny emo chick with an attitude. It just doesn't fit into the franchise. But now that it's happened, it ain't ever going away! Overall though the campaign was literally the best since Gears 2 -- all because of the fun gameplay, lore and new open-level design. But it's still not gritty enough for Gears, and the story/characters need new writers for sure. Even the old returning characters sucked, what the fuck was old man Cole doing riding an explosive motorcycle into that Swarmark's mouth -- simply ridiculous. He's simply there to go "WOO" and that's it. I want a dark, gritty, unforgiving story about war set in the Gears of WAR universe.
Its only a matter of time that these types of "writers" make their way to games workshop. I can already see it "THIS ISNT ABOUT THE EMPEROR, THIS IS ABOUT ME!"
@@lastword8783 It's already happening for years ago, it's only becoming more obvious as time passes.
I think that's why they changed to gears, instead of gears of war
@@stephenjamieson1267 I still REALLY hate that.
You don't remeber a lot about cole, do you??
"It's not about you! It's about me!"
They based the entire games events... Around a sam rami spiderman movie quote.
How?
Just like halo. Microsoft needs to fucking man up and hire the writers of the books. All these feminist propaganda. But they refuse to actually fucking hire female writers. Justice for Kelly Gay. (That's a actual name)
@sleeping bear wow
They really disrespected the Onyx guard because of her. That was cringy and pissed me off. Turned the elite soldiers we held in high regard into nobodies
And what’s crazy is that the onyx guard with Jin seemed to be a nice guy and wasn’t a jerk like some of the onyx guards of the past 😆
That scene always make laugh a lot lmao
Also, we never respected the onyx guards men like c'mon, we just knew they were assholes and Delda (Marcus, Dom, Baird, Cole, Sam, Jace, Anya, etc...) were the real elites, they literally finished the war and killed Myrrah
reminds me what Bioware did to Grey Wardens in DA Inquisition.
Well to be fair, they did that WAY back in Judgment, making them nothing more than canon fodder
To be fair, the Onyx Guard in the original trilogy was kind of a joke (like in Judgment). But Gears 5 made them even worse
Marcus seeing JD crying after Del dies and he hugs him is the best thing that came from the new games. THAT is Gears of War, not this crap
I thijnk shes a good side character and was good for a 1 game protagonist, but now she should go back to a side character. I will not lie the campaign for 5 was amazing though.
I disliked her selfish attitude and her poor dialogue. “It’s about ME.” And “Hey, he was my friend too.” In regards to the friend death. Like wow. This isn’t how you write a character. The new trio are just dull compared to Delta. JD had so much potential in his new disgruntled appearance, but he pisses off for half the game and potentially even dies before doing anything interesting.
I have no idea what they will do for Gears 6, because people are gonna be pissed no matter who canonically dies, if they even go that route.
They’d be better of retconning Gears 5 entirely, and give us Gears of War 5 instead.
Kait and jinn are worse than the locust lol
I've notices this recently Lara bailey the voice actress seems be casted in alot unlikable female characters such as, Kait, That annoying siren girl in Borderlands 3, Abby in the last of us part 2, The Merc leader in Uncharted 4 and the Russian sniper in Cod Vanguard
13:00 That how Marcus should of been in Gears 5
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Gears 5 was one of the soulless games to come out that year, I legitimately enjoyed Gears 4 because it was fun but the story was nothing to drive home about but it was fun to some point.
To be fair, I do like some of the new characters who survived (shame about Lizzie, though). Faz is almost like a less intelligent of Baird, with the whole sarcasm and snark front, while trying not to become to attatched to any one.
And JD's arc was actually really good, even if a lot of it happened off screen. It also says how bad your writing is if the most developed character of the main trio had the least screen time and a lot of it happened off screen. I was definitely on JD's side as the "Settlement 2" incident went into more detail and also really reflects social and mainstream media's impact on people's perceptions. It was constantly painted as the COG just being bad (which is believable given how corrupt they are) until the so called peaceful protestors were revealed to be throwing incendiaries. They probably caused as many, if not more casualties than the COG. JD ordered his men to open fire in a moment of panic and the guilt ate at him. And he could never talk to Del about it, because we see how both he and Kait react when Faz blurts it out in this game. After the hammer strikes going haywire and killing a lot of COG, JD awakens from his coma a changed man. Even though his actions arguably resulted in fewer casualties, he only sees the negative consequences and loses all faith in his own judgement, becoming a more by the book soldier. He's also afraid to face his friends so doesn't.
That's the really obnoxious part. JD and Fahz were 100% the heroes of the Settlement 2 situation, but the narrative treats it as an atrocity.
Because of real life Firey But Mostly Peaceful Riots.
Not getting Karen Traviss on the writing team was a big mistake. She understood gears very well, she really helped bring out the human side of Marcus and all of the characters. But these games are games that were forced to be made, nothing about them is exciting for anyone.
The main themes of the Gears of War franchise were stoicism, handling and processing trauma, and the connections made through brotherhood. Kait demonstrates none of the qualities of the franchise. She's an angsty, dramatic protagonist that everyone was forced to tolerate. If they want Gears to be relevant again, they need to replace their writers with ones who understand what made Gears so special. No soap drama bullshit, no complaining, no 'what about how I feel', just soldiers pushed to their limits, still marching on despite it.
I wonder what John Dimaggio himself truly thinks about her character.
He's fairly woke, he spent an unhealthy amount of time tweeting about trump. Love him or hate him, it got insufferable.
I feel like killing JD or Del doesn't change the lore or the storyline one of them has to be canon.
I often joked with my friends that Lizzie Carmine had a shorter and better character introduction than Kait.
After playing Gears of War Tactics, I get the same vibe from Gabe Diaz. Who is a blank slate and a turbulent relationship with the COG. I hate entire Diaz family.
They knew what they were doing with kait. Same thing all the other companies fucking up old IPs.
Gears of war 4 and 5 story should had been focused on Marcus son instead of this feminist character and I never liked her character in gears of war and never liked the other characters aside from Marcus son only 1,2,3 was actually good 4 and 5 are just wasted characters and wasted story.
Wasn't 4 focused on JD
@@karsten3360 exactly Kait wasn't even really involved in the story up until her kom got kidnapped lol
I agree
@@fr2138 only 4 and 5 are 3 Is based on Marcus
Long story short, Kait is boring and ugly and I want my Gears back!
Make Gears Great Again!
Nah she bad that’s the only reason I played this campaign
It’s a pain in the A$$ to see our all time game end up like this especially Kait it would have been better if she was removed why did Jd and kait switch after act I. But it’s a shame How gears of war suffered by the coalition but I liked the video tho 👍
if they had altered a bunch of lines, showed more character from JD, (an interesting, but under utilized character in my opinion) and switched back to him for act 3 and 4, adding in more Marcus scenes; I think gears 5 would be a lot more respected
Baird goes awol gets put to trial
Marcus goes awol gets locked up in prison
Kait goes awol she gets everyone’s approval Pity and help
Who made Hivebuster? the DLC made you care of everyone, and let you play as anyone, I enjoyed that 2 hours more than the whole game
Sim
Gears 3: YEAAHH WOOOOOO
Gears 5: *sarcasticly* Yeah woo
This guys speaks nothing but fucking truth... channel deserves to have at least 50K subs by now!
I just played the original gears 1 on hard core
The graphics is dark and spooky
I died so many times
Drones are the boogie men!
Grenadiers are the hallway monsters!
Theron Guards are the Demons aka Older Drones
RAAM THE BIG BAD CHAD OF ALL THE MONSTERS!
THAT IS WHAT LIKE!!!! About the original Gears of War
And one last thing RAAM IS a Bad Ass Theron Guard
I like the theme of the first,spooky, as this one should have been better with
@@jalobsterman6475 the original gears of war title theme is ICONIC, so I like epic paying tribute to it as the collectable sound theme; so WHY didn't they do it in gears 5
@@stephenjamieson1267 I also feel they should have added some of the original soundtrack like when you get to the tomb of the unknown
Pretty much summed up why Gears of War 1 is still my favorite game in the franchise.
And the "die, groundwalker..." line they growl out is just so menacing, it's just awesome!
Swarm have nothing on the Locust of old!
I never liked this "new era" of gears of war games, I just think of them as non canon because they're that boring. The characters and story is crap.
Star wars, doctor who, star trek and now gears 5
Atrio Berlyn
Precisely dear viewer, parallels indeed.
12:55
that's how everyone should talk to kait
Did we not realize the title change? Gears, no more war, they’re trying to focus more on their relationships
Yes, they are trying to change it for Last of us...
@@enioii Sony walking simulator
Kait is the embodiment of what is wrong with modern Gears of War.
Woke, independent woman who is her way or her way. Like she could've been good, like her design and Laura Bailey is always decent but man the writing in 4 and 5 is so awful.
At least her dad is pretty cool. Tactics was a blast.
Woke independent woman is becoming more and more common these days. I'll likely get old before this high of a phase for woman cools down, I say this because maybe it is a thing similar to intergenerational trauma passed down from woman who experienced a bad time with a man back then. And now that the internet is rising in its need while still keeping your free liberty on it, they feel a state of empowerment and this train of thought spread like a wildfire. I wouldn't say I am certain in this opinion as I have not done any research at all it is just me thinking and remembering all the times I've seen this type of behaviour throughout my years of being on the internet. I started internet surfing since I was 12-13 and I am now 18 years old
Agreed!
Prequels would have been much better than sequels. The ending of three was perfect, but there were still questions left unanswered about the characters backstories.
She treats everyone like crap…. how can anyone think that’s a good character
Equally immature people who see themselves in her.
Now what im about to say is not sexist, it’s fact. There is a certain type of bond that is formed between men that is so unique its hard to put in words. Its a brotherly bond, and it can be formed by football players or Army soldiers. Any guy whose played seriously on a team or been deployed knows what I’m talking about. And that’s what made GOW so great; the story of the brothers-in-arms of delta squad. The bond between Cole, Baird, Carmine, Dom, Marcus. What I’m trying to say is making the main character of a mainline GOW female kinda ruins the uniquely masculine feeling of the games. Whenever I play the old trilogy I can actually connect to the bond these guys have and this is why Dom’s death is one of the only fictional deaths I have ever had sadness over. Im not saying dont have female playable characters in gears of war, of course not. While they weren’t playable, Sam, Bernie and Anya were all great characters because they added to the story. But making a female the main character in a gow game is like making a female soldier the main character in the show Band of Brothers. GOW, sure, was about a war with the locust and the COG and all the history of Sera, but it truly was the story of the brothers of Delta squad, while now it is only about Kait.
How did they miss the opportunity to show JD’s regret and how he grew after the mistake he made after the riots with Faz to show he becomes a better officer and soldier, for this. It’s baffling.
8:12 that fit so perfectly which is so sad
I agree, I hope they bring in a new writer for the story
Seeing how the arc of this story goes with kait, there literally isn't even a good reason to keep her ALIVE, much less be the protagonist. They stated in the story they wanna make her a swarm queen too, so why not just put a bullet to the brain while it's easy? Hell they even touch on this subject and just pretend it never happened the very next scene.
Edit: coming back to think about it actually, the story is kinda like starcraft and Kerrigan. Except this time there's multiple kerrigans...and we need to keep one alive for some reason.
the only line I will always hate if their in a video game is “This isn’t about you, It’s about me” even though the person they said that to helped them through blood, sweat, and tears
Most of the creatives at Coalition and 343 are low talent hacks compared to Bungie and Epic. These are people who should have never been elevated to positions power because not only do they lack appreciation and respect to what made the original trilogies great, they actively disdain them.
FACTS MY GUY FACTS This new saga is just so boring and bad lol
They chose the wrong character to the build around , should have been a new character (Younger character which appears to be what they wanted) with flashback scenes to establish their position within the group 😉
I kept wondering why wasn’t Sam featured more in gears of war 4 and 5, I loved her dialogue with Baird in gears 3.
Kait is the kind of person that NOBODY wants in their zombie-apocalypse survival group, let alone a squad of rag-tag soldiers who are supposed to save the world.
I don’t hate kait it’s just she’s a forced characters with today’s standards
I agree with what you say man, intresting video.
I always found Kait to be quite an irritating character overall.
Laura baily playing lackluster and shit characters is becoming a pattern..
Last of us 2: abby
Gears 4 and 5: Cait
Also, am i the only one REALLY tired of hearing Laura Bailey in games?! She and Troy Baker are criminally overrated! Sick of seeing them in nearly everything! 🙄
No they aren’t, that would be Tara Strong and Steve Blum who have been put in more roles than the two mentioned above. But at the end of the day they’re just actors doing their job, they don’t write the story or characters.
They. Are. Everywhere. Goodness sake.
The original gears of War trilogy was a story about humanity and it's fight for survival.
True, the plot focused on certain individual's stories (Dom and Maria and Marcus and his father) but they were all framed in the wider narrative of the humanity's fight against extinction.
The beginning of gears of War 4 and the resurrection of the locust horde was intriguing however the turning point was when JD and co. freed Marcus.
When Marcus informed the team that Reyna wasn't being poded like everyone else and being treated differently I suspected a) she and Kait were related to Queen Myrrah and b) the entire storyline was going to revolve around them.
Gears of War 5 confirmed by suspicions.
You sir just earned a sub and a like. Your doing the Allfathers work my dude.
I don't hate Kait, I do like the element about her mother and Queen Myra, but yah she's very hard to enjoy because of how bitchy she is, even worse is how they treated JD. I don't mind Kait takign the lead for Gears 5, but we should have had Del AND JD alongside her. JD worked as the lead for Gears 4 as he's carrying on the legacy of his father, workign well as Marcus joins them on the journey, but soon gets seperated, and so JD must lead his friends through the Swarm hive, it served as his "trial by fire", I also loved how he could be series at times, but also a bit light hearted, he's not as hardened after all as Marcus was, as Marcus was birn in a time of war into a rich family and either had to keep up a rich mannered facade that he saw little personal love from hid dad, or he had to adapt later to being a soldier in 2 brutal wars. JD grew up in a time of peace, thus the Swarm is him out of his league. But in Gears 5 he started out good, but after the Hammer of Dawn accident he became a jackass, and even shafted out fo the story almost completly. He should have led for the first 1 or 2 chapters, but the realization of Kait's dreams then shifts to her a the lead with him trusting her on this, but he should still take command if she's goign too far or out of her depths. Either way he should have kept his personality from Gears 4, then with the ending we know if a Gears 6 comes out one of the 2 guys won't be returning, enother issue I have is how they cut these 3 as a squad so short.
JD should absolutely be brought back as the protagonist for a future Gears 6.
This series is dead. They won't fix it but just double down.
Its also strange how no one else really talks about these issues.
Played gears 1-3 campaigns over and over. Played 4-5 one time. I was checked out in 5. Kait is a horrendously written character
They killed off Anya for her. 🤦🏿♂️
Sort of a minor annoyance, but I feel like Kait's face is different in every single piece of media she appears in. Her face looks drastically different between 4 and 5, and in each trailer or piece of artwork her face looks different. Just seems weird.
Kait was hot in Gears 4 they changed her up in Gears 5 and somehow took away her hottness which is the only thing i dint like about this game