How The Buffalo Braves Were SCREWED From The Get-Go

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • In 1970, the NBA’s inexorable expansion efforts brought a franchise to Buffalo, the chilly, industrial city spitting distance from Canada. Even though NBA basketball had already flopped twice elsewhere in upstate New York, the league was undeterred.
    In hindsight, though, it might’ve been a miscalculation.
    The Buffalo Braves were beset by problems from the get-go, including a massive scheduling quagmire involving the city’s other beloved sports teams: the NHL’s Sabres and the Canisius College Golden Griffins basketball program. And despite the best efforts of future Hall-of-Famers like Bob McAdoo and Adrian Dantley, the Braves’ run in the NBA was ultimately a brief one, with the franchise up-and-leaving for California after only eight seasons in the Queen City.
    Written & Narrated by: Jonah Birenbaum (@Birenball | X)
    Produced & Edited by: James Balutan (@jamesbalutan | Instagram)
    Filmed by: Zack Underhill (@ZackUnderhill | Instagram)
    Thumbnail Design by: Justin Shipley (@shipleysportstudio | Instagram)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 349

  • @DJJohn-uv5ff
    @DJJohn-uv5ff Місяць тому +212

    The Buffalo Braves are still falling apart. Just look at those Clippers!

    • @elwin38
      @elwin38 Місяць тому +10

      It's like a curse that's never went away!🤦🏽‍♂🏀

    • @mrbob8618
      @mrbob8618 Місяць тому +7

      They actually moved first to san diego and were the conquiatdors

    • @nickmaxx
      @nickmaxx Місяць тому +1

      Here's hoping the curse remains until they return to buffalo

    • @robcohen5585
      @robcohen5585 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@mrbob8618 no, the Conquistadors were an ABA expansion team that played in San Diego after the Rockets moved to Houston and before the Braves moved to San Diego.

    • @mjbull5156
      @mjbull5156 Місяць тому +1

      Doomed to having terrible ownership, forever.

  • @Gierap
    @Gierap Місяць тому +138

    Imagine they had Moses Malone, Bob McAdoo and Dantley on one roster. Such a shame that owner didn't let this team play.

    • @DarkSaber22
      @DarkSaber22 Місяць тому +7

      They still had that ultimatum from the league anyway. They had to figure out their schedule better and they never could

    • @elwin38
      @elwin38 Місяць тому +10

      Had Tiny Archibald too.

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 Місяць тому +5

      And Ernie DiGregorio eventually from Providence College. This Team definitely could've done much better with the Talent present in western New York. Very Cool Logo too.🤔😉🌬❄⛄🏀B.W.

    • @dennishover4803
      @dennishover4803 Місяць тому +10

      The greatest athlete on the team was Randy Smith by far!

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 Місяць тому +1

      That still didn't relieve the big issue...they were behind Canisius College in scheduling priority (the Buffalo Sabres were first, inheriting that position from the AHL Bisons) and Canisius wanted key prime time slots.

  • @danmeier9645
    @danmeier9645 Місяць тому +48

    Had a very difficult childhood. Found joy and serenity listening to Braves on the radio. Van Miller called basketball even better than he called football. Leaving broke my heart.

    • @mikeb5067
      @mikeb5067 Місяць тому +5

      Wow didnt know he called the braves toi. He lived on Bathurst when i was a kid in tonawanda. Used to shovel his driveway lol

    • @FranBushardt
      @FranBushardt Місяць тому +5

      When Van called a Braves game on the radio, You could picture the game in your head! He was Professionally Descriptive! Mc Adoo with a 23 footer GOOD! Heard with an 17 footer at the Foul Line, Off the rim And In! Van told you the Distance of EVERY SHOT and you could Picture it in your head! Ernie D over the Time line Right Bounce pass to McMillian to McAdoo in the Corner 19 footer GOOD! Before the Braves, Van Called UB Football, Niagara University Basketball with Calvin Murphy. Buffalo Bisons Baseball, those games were interesting as some games that he could not travel, he did the Games Via TICKER TAPE from the Studio if the Games were in EX COLUMBUS, he would Complete the game in time for his WBEN TV 11 pm Sports Reports!! VAN WAS THE MAN❤️

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Місяць тому +1

      My Auntie lives in Buffalo we loved the braved

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel Місяць тому

      @@mikeb5067 Channel 17 used to have auctions.
      Once, one of the items to be auctioned was you could set next to Van Miller courtside and watch the game and be interviewed at half time ... my dad got it for me when I was 13!!!! I loved it.
      The Braves killed the hapless Sixers and Van asked me who my favorite player was and I said "Bob McAdoo!"

  • @eriktout5084
    @eriktout5084 Місяць тому +49

    As a 60 yr old lifelong WNY resident, always within 10/15 miles of Buffalo this video brings back memories of my late father and I constantly getting free tickets for Braves game . Even a Braves v Celtics playoff game . Thanks for the video.

    • @mrbob8618
      @mrbob8618 Місяць тому +2

      David thompson

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel Місяць тому

      Did you ever sit in the Oranges?

    • @mrbob8618
      @mrbob8618 Місяць тому

      @BillMorganChannel A guy I worked with for 33 years.Tried out for buffalo braves robert reece

  • @tygrkhat4087
    @tygrkhat4087 Місяць тому +25

    Two things that were missed. Eddie Donovan was an alumnus of St. Bonaventure and coached there from 1953 until 1961. Star guard Randy Smith was an alumnus of Buffalo State, a rare lower division player making it in the NBA. So from the start, the Braves had hometown connections. Also, Smith was for a time the NBA's ironman.

    • @orlandogill7082
      @orlandogill7082 Місяць тому +7

      Randy Smith was a tough player. I remember that Team well Bob McAdoo and Bob Kaufman. ABC carried the NBA at that time.

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 Місяць тому +2

      @tygrkhat4087: Weird connection to Buffalo State in Pop Culture as well. That was said to be the Alma Mater of "Public Defender Christine Sullivan" Played by the lovely and dearly departed Miss Markie Post on "Night Court!" And intriguingly enough Buffalo State's Teams are known as "The Bengals."🤔😉🎤👩‍⚖🐅💃🏈🏀🎭📺B.W.

  • @jamesjazzy8040
    @jamesjazzy8040 Місяць тому +20

    Well Bob McAdoo and Randy Smith is a hell of a start...

  • @tintin3250
    @tintin3250 Місяць тому +111

    I was in Buffalo for a Bills - Seahawks game shortly after the Sonics had left Seattle. The Buffalo fans were making fun of the Seattle fans for losing their NBA team! Those young people didn't know their own history!

    • @markprice2225
      @markprice2225 Місяць тому +8

      Same thing at Cards game. And there were a couple of fans wearing Spirit of St.Louis jerseys too, as this was the year after Durant rookie year 🙄 misguided youth

    • @spursdynasty7378
      @spursdynasty7378 Місяць тому +9

      😂 today’s young is are freakin clueless. I think phones are makin ‘em dumber !

    • @scrappy93
      @scrappy93 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@spursdynasty7378 the irony here.

    • @bencromwell707
      @bencromwell707 Місяць тому +5

      Bob MacAdo In A Word #Iconic

    • @dennissaunders5247
      @dennissaunders5247 Місяць тому +9

      I had no idea, the Braves had Moses Malone, Adrian Dantley.
      Their scouting Department was good, with Bob Mcadoo. If the Braves had proper ownership and management and with that coach, Buffalo might have a CHAMPIONSHIP BANER.

  • @elwin38
    @elwin38 Місяць тому +24

    I saw the very last Braves game on the NBA on CBS. They played the Celtics in John "Hondo" Havlichek's last game.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Місяць тому +3

      Saw that game and the playoff game where McAdoo scored 44pts

    • @bostonne5783
      @bostonne5783 Місяць тому +1

      Ernie D was on that Celtics team and fed Honda that whole game!

  • @Diljabar
    @Diljabar Місяць тому +63

    Bob McAdoo went on to be a key contributor to the Showtime Lakers

    • @armorybrunotjr.3204
      @armorybrunotjr.3204 Місяць тому +10

      The "Doo" helped the Lakers win titles in 1982 and 1985, namely as a backup to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

  • @JWex-jy7sk
    @JWex-jy7sk Місяць тому +23

    There’s a schoolteacher in the Buffalo area named John Boutet
    He has got a boatload of Braves memorabilia in his collection and ESPN even interviewed him few years ago with an article titled…
    “Why a Buffalo teacher won't let go of long-departed Braves”

  • @mightya
    @mightya Місяць тому +11

    Dave Zinkoff was the lengendary PA announcer of the 76ers. When Garfield Heard scored he would say, “Heard of Buffalo”.

  • @leosburner627
    @leosburner627 Місяць тому +33

    “33 year old entrepreneur” who looked like he was in his mid 50s.

    • @Gierap
      @Gierap Місяць тому +8

      Different times my friend. The 20s look like 30s, the mid 30s like 50s 😂

    • @pb3
      @pb3 Місяць тому

      @@Gierapwhy is that you think ? Diet ?

    • @Gierap
      @Gierap Місяць тому

      @@pb3 I think it's cuz back then people mattured much younger. The fashion is also a factor.

    • @HHSGDFootballJPD
      @HHSGDFootballJPD Місяць тому +1

      And smoking too...

    • @Gierap
      @Gierap Місяць тому +1

      @@HHSGDFootballJPD Yeah, start smoking at 10yo gotta take some effect at 30s 😁

  • @BlueOpinion
    @BlueOpinion Місяць тому +45

    Two Rookie of the Years, a MVP of the league, a 3 time scoring champion, all while with the team, and 11 All Stars. Not bad for a team destined to fail.

    • @delite7DFG
      @delite7DFG Місяць тому +5

      Three ROY (McAdoo, DiGregorio, and Dantley..)

    • @tyroneflowers14
      @tyroneflowers14 20 днів тому +1

      And one of the greatest coaches of all time

  • @carljustinenuestro8771
    @carljustinenuestro8771 Місяць тому +22

    As a Laker/Clipper fan who born on the early 2000s, I always love the old school basketball especially in the 1970s. When you talk about the 1970s, you talk about the Tom Heinsohn’s Celtics, the Red Holzman’s Knicks, or Larry Costello’s Bucks. But, there’s a one team that I actually love for, and it was the Braves. For those Clipper fans out there who didn’t know about the history of the franchise, it was actually originated in Buffalo and the first superstar of the franchise was Bob McAdoo and I always love his playing style especially his jump shot. He considered as the greatest player in the history of the Brave/Clipper franchise and until now he’s still the greatest of the franchise despite they have Blake Griffin, Chris Paul, and DeAndre Jordan during the 2010s. I feel sorry on what happened to Buffalo when they moved the team to San Diego, then in Los Angeles. I wished that they still have the NBA team in Buffalo but it is just a business. I think there is a now chance to have an NBA team in Buffalo again. At least, they have the Bills and the Sabres.

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 Місяць тому

      @@carljustinenuestro8771 And the Bisons of The International League. At least for awhile near as I know.🤔B.W.

    • @Deezy_Ankh
      @Deezy_Ankh Місяць тому +1

      We're not getting another NBA team in Buffalo anytime soon.

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel Місяць тому +2

      My Braves had good teams but usually seemed to play the evil Celtics in round one and lost 4 games to 2.

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel Місяць тому +1

      @@madbrowniac7871 Farm team of the putrid Senators!

  • @marcwhitlock5450
    @marcwhitlock5450 Місяць тому +17

    I was born in 1989 in Buffalo, and have followed/played sports here my entire life and it's sad the braves are completely forgotten. With how bad the Sabres have been it would've been great if we still had a NBA team during the Bills off-season. I only learned about the Braves because I played football with Snyders Grandson growing up.

    • @tygrkhat4087
      @tygrkhat4087 Місяць тому +4

      If the Braves could have lasted a couple more seasons, we would have had a team during the Magic-Bird era. When the Braves left town, the NBA was in a malaise itself; drug problems were rampant, and TV ratings were so bad, championship games were shown on tape delay after the local 11PM news.

    • @jeffreymoody5027
      @jeffreymoody5027 23 дні тому

      You were born in 89 10 years after the team left

  • @moneymovementbeats2080
    @moneymovementbeats2080 Місяць тому +37

    Best series on UA-cam right now.

  • @RobertDGordon
    @RobertDGordon Місяць тому +67

    Portland bypassed Bob McAdoo, Michael Jordan & Kevin Durant in the draft... my goodness.

  • @bryantsherman7263
    @bryantsherman7263 Місяць тому +8

    I remember listening to the Braves games on the radio in 1970-1. That first season was really tough, thank gosh for the Cavs that year.

  • @Andyboylettuce
    @Andyboylettuce Місяць тому +8

    My dad used to go to those Braves games at Maple Leaf Garden! He had fond memories of watching McAdoo!

  • @geofflepper3207
    @geofflepper3207 Місяць тому +4

    Sad that Buffalo's NBA team was never given a fair chance to succeed.
    Buffalo sports fans have demonstrated their dedication by giving enough support to
    an NHL team, an NFL team and a Triple-A baseball team.
    Very impressive for a city with a population of under 1.2 million people in the greater metroplitan area.
    Would be nice if Buffalo could get at least some NBA games but both the Raptors and the Cavaliers have excellent attendance in their home arenas and aren't going to want to move any of their home games to Buffalo.
    In fact every NBA team has at least good attendance at their home arenas and won't want to play any home games away from their home arenas.

  • @averyj.thedefinitivegill455
    @averyj.thedefinitivegill455 Місяць тому +38

    I wish that the NBA would be back in Buffalo, NY one day

    • @russellgrosser-7677
      @russellgrosser-7677 Місяць тому +10

      Living in the Buffalo area, that would be very cool, indeed. Unfortunately, the NBA is a corporatocracy and money, stadium luxury boxes/suites, and media ratings drives the game.
      Buffalo is a 1980s Ross ten-speed in an era of EV bikes.

    • @tygrkhat4087
      @tygrkhat4087 Місяць тому +10

      Heck, I wouldn't mind getting the Raptors to play a game against the Clippers in Buffalo, with the Clips wearing Braves throwbacks. They could raise a banner remembering the team.

    • @averyj.thedefinitivegill455
      @averyj.thedefinitivegill455 Місяць тому +3

      @@tygrkhat4087 You’re right! Maybe the Raptors relocate to Buffalo, NY

    • @russellgrosser-7677
      @russellgrosser-7677 Місяць тому +2

      @@tygrkhat4087 Now THAT would be sweet!

    • @delbertprince5302
      @delbertprince5302 Місяць тому +2

      Bringing an NBA team back to Buffalo would be great

  • @javenwilliams9875
    @javenwilliams9875 Місяць тому +13

    They became the clippers 😂

  • @TheBrutalDrummer
    @TheBrutalDrummer Місяць тому +29

    Please do a video on the Hartford Whalers!

    • @markprice2225
      @markprice2225 Місяць тому +8

      That team needs to come back! One of the Best Jerseys in all of sports history!!

    • @stevenalvarado3146
      @stevenalvarado3146 Місяць тому +3

      How about the cleaveland barons/ Colorado Rockies. Who are now in New Jersey

    • @daveyboy_
      @daveyboy_ Місяць тому +1

      Hmmmmm, I hear that city Hartford is a cesspool of crime & unemployment
      Dont think the NHL would ever go back there

    • @HHSGDFootballJPD
      @HHSGDFootballJPD Місяць тому

      ​@@daveyboy_I think it has to do with the fact that CT can't support a fifth hockey team with all of the Rangers, Bruins, and Devils fans in the state.

    • @russellguercio3904
      @russellguercio3904 Місяць тому

      ​@@daveyboy_Sounds a lot like the Islanders out in Long Island.

  • @joemagwood9130
    @joemagwood9130 Місяць тому +5

    I remember watching Buffalo as a kid with Bob McAdoo, Randy Smith, Ernie D, & John Shumate them and the Celtics use to go at it in the playoffs.

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 Місяць тому +1

      @@joemagwood9130 Forgot about John Shumate! He was practically All World at Notre Dame. Adrian Dantley's Alma Mater as well.🤔👨‍🎓☘🏀B.W.

    • @aarondigby5054
      @aarondigby5054 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@madbrowniac7871John Shumate beat Lewis Alcindor and broke the Bruins winning streak at 88 games

    • @madbrowniac7871
      @madbrowniac7871 Місяць тому +1

      @@joemagwood9130 It was a Dick Enberg TVS Classic! John Shumate IIRC had two Teammates named Austin Carr and Gary Brokaw who both ended up as Cleveland Cavs in The NBA. As did Garfield Heard.☘🏀🐻B.W.

    • @johnm8096
      @johnm8096 Місяць тому +2

      Walton not Alcindor

    • @johnm8096
      @johnm8096 Місяць тому +2

      They had Ernie D’s college teammate, Marvin Barnes, as well.

  • @heatwave1789
    @heatwave1789 Місяць тому +6

    I remember when the clippers dropped the braves throwback it was lit

  • @jayg1438
    @jayg1438 Місяць тому +2

    I love the historical restrospectives. So much material for beloved and historic teams of now midsized cities. Hartford Whalers/ Quebec Nordiques (NHL) and the Rochester Royals, now the Sacramento Kings of the NBA.

  • @threejayjohnson8284
    @threejayjohnson8284 Місяць тому +5

    I wish they’d bring my city team back 😢

  • @magtafcmdr8621
    @magtafcmdr8621 Місяць тому +3

    I was too young to have enjoyed the Braves in Buffalo. I did see the Lakers play the New Jersey Nets at the Aud in Buffalo for an exhibition game in 1988. The Braves management certainly had a good eye for talent. Buffalo is a small market whose fanbase punches above its weight. It's great to see the Bills live now that they are winning again.

  • @Deriv44
    @Deriv44 Місяць тому +19

    And that why the Clippers are cursed

    • @jameslaubacker3467
      @jameslaubacker3467 Місяць тому +4

      Yep, they are still cursed. The only way to get rid of the curse would be to play some games in Buffalo.

    • @sjdrifter72
      @sjdrifter72 Місяць тому

      @@jameslaubacker3467 Nobody would care in Buffalo, just like nobody goes to Sabres games. Buffalo is strictly Bills Country.

  • @Juricostar
    @Juricostar Місяць тому +6

    Let’s get this channel to 200k 🏆

  • @thomash8501
    @thomash8501 Місяць тому +6

    Jonah, you've got the nerdy geeky baseball commentator voice down perfectly. Pursue what you're meant for!

  • @Sticktothemodels
    @Sticktothemodels Місяць тому +8

    Loving the topics of choice guys. Continuation of one helluva run

  • @nbapbaupdate8338
    @nbapbaupdate8338 Місяць тому +9

    I hope Buffalo back someday

  • @nascarmadman
    @nascarmadman Місяць тому +5

    The Houston Rockets was not an expansion team, the San Diego Rockets relocated. Only 3 teams were part of the expansion that year.

    • @JWex-jy7sk
      @JWex-jy7sk Місяць тому +6

      No it was supposed to be four. Mentions at 3:25 Houston's expansion team folded operations due to financial fees.
      That opened the door for San Diego to come there in 1971 instead

  • @NickelCityMafia
    @NickelCityMafia Місяць тому +3

    Braves broke my heart as a 12 year boy when they moved West. Man...Bob McAdoo and Randy Smith. Having to share the Aud with the Sabres was a big problem for their NBA schedule.

  • @SkippyKairos
    @SkippyKairos Місяць тому +8

    I know the Clippers just redesigned their logo and such and this won’t happen, but this Buffalonian would love it if they came back home. Adam Silver, I know you’re thinking about league expansion, don’t let me down!

    • @darryljorden9177
      @darryljorden9177 Місяць тому +3

      Have you seen their new $2B arena? They're not going anywhere.

    • @SkippyKairos
      @SkippyKairos Місяць тому +2

      @@darryljorden9177 Oh yeah that got made too. Yep they ain't leaving anytime soon

  • @Z_Twe12e
    @Z_Twe12e Місяць тому +5

    Its hard to believe Canisius had bidding rights over an NBA team. I really wish that Buffalo had an NBA team today. My kids would live going to games.

    • @blakeszudzik9645
      @blakeszudzik9645 Місяць тому

      They were really good back in the day. They had multiple NCAA and NIT tourney appearances and a few NBA players. Wild to think about considering they play in a 2,000-seat arena nowadays that doesn't even have a video board and one cheap concession stand - think of a high school gym.

    • @427bullis
      @427bullis 21 день тому

      College could have played at the kessler

  • @billmalone5050
    @billmalone5050 Місяць тому +5

    THE AMERICAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE WAS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE AND PRO FOOTBALL IN GENERAL.

  • @josephzach8617
    @josephzach8617 Місяць тому +4

    Great video!
    Our only consolation is that the Clippers remain under a franchise curse that can only be voided by a Super Bowl or Stanley Cup victory

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 Місяць тому +4

    I had no idea the Buffalo Braves had scheduling issues. The Sabres and Canisius men's hoops wouldn't move off their preferred weekend dates, so that left the Braves in a tough spot. I had no idea that was why the Braves had to play some games in Toronto.

    • @tomdipasquale9633
      @tomdipasquale9633 Місяць тому +2

      I didn’t know that either. Total BS they couldn’t get their schedule better!

    • @ronintsukebin9163
      @ronintsukebin9163 Місяць тому +2

      Maybe that's the reasons the Sabres are jinxed. You would think a college team would give up their night in the Aud and just play at home. Losers.

    • @marcus813
      @marcus813 Місяць тому

      @@ronintsukebin9163 The Aud was much bigger than Canisus' arena, so maybe the program outgrew it and had to use the Aud due to ticket demand. This is why the Seattle Redhawks' men's hoops team plays some games at Climate Pledge Arena instead of their tiny on-campus arena.

  • @bobsiyt6548
    @bobsiyt6548 Місяць тому +2

    And notice how sweet those uniforms were. Switching from their original orange and black to those sweet Columbia blue and white ones.

  • @BrickyMcghee404
    @BrickyMcghee404 Місяць тому +5

    I honestly never knew this team existed 😂. I love these type videos on defunct teams, keep it up!

    • @russellgrosser-7677
      @russellgrosser-7677 Місяць тому +3

      Living in the Buffalo area, I remember the Braves very well. They left when I was in third grade. I remember being pretty bummed out about it. I started following the Cavaliers afterwards.

  • @markgolden6265
    @markgolden6265 Місяць тому +2

    It’s a great sports city! And they support their teams. Paul Synder was bad. But, it was more Canisius College AD not helping. Now Canisius does not even use the arena. They don’t have the draw of fans anymore. And UB is the big time basketball program in the area.

  • @johngoogly
    @johngoogly 16 днів тому

    This was excellent! Brought back a lot of memories as a kid growing up watching Bob McAdoo, Randy Smith and Ernie D running and gunning. They were an explosive team, just couldn’t get over the more established teams, but boy were they fun to watch.😊

  • @IndieGamerChick
    @IndieGamerChick Місяць тому +16

    When people say that sports fans are really just cheering for logos, they're just objectively wrong. Teams accumulate personalities over the passage of time. The Clippers have been consistently hapless, sad-sack types from the start. Through two location changes, ownership changes, etc, it's remarkable how they're always these hapless, unlucky types.

    • @Sticktothemodels
      @Sticktothemodels Місяць тому +2

      Those are things casuals say man. They def carry distinct ambiance, energy, and traditions/superstitions. Generally the best franchises have a distinct playstyle too (e.g. Steelers, Barcelona)

    • @IndieGamerChick
      @IndieGamerChick Місяць тому +5

      @@Sticktothemodels Yep. Two championship eras of Pistons were distinctly defensive specialists with four scoring options on the court and one all-defense super specialist. Golden State, whether in Philly or the Bay, had all their glory based around generational game changing scorers (Wilt/Barry/Run TMC/Death Lineup). Multiple generations of Buffalo Bills had unfathomable and eerily similar losses, multiple generations of Trail Blazer GMs took a center over a transcendent player in the draft, the Spurs are always the workhorse franchise. The Celtics have traditionally succeeded when they have position players who play like they're something else. Russell ran the fast break, Bird as the first small forward that the offense ran through, Pierce's total command of the half-court, and now Tatum, the forward with a guard's command of the game. Uncanny!
      There are exceptions. The Chicago Bulls are probably the team that had the most success without any real team identity, unless you consider their uncanny injury bad luck to be the team's culture. Hapless, directionless team where every potential superstar is struck down by an injury, JORDAN HAPPENS, hapless, directionless team where every potential superstar is struck down by an injury.

  • @karenbaisch2868
    @karenbaisch2868 19 днів тому

    Just found your channel. I knew very little of the Braves but really enjoyed your story telling. Can't wait to watch more of your shows. Bob McAdoo was such an amazing player and a class act still today.

  • @SaholG
    @SaholG Місяць тому +4

    Early childhood memory was seeing the Braves at MLG with my hoops crazy, late Pops. Salute to all involved with this and the other pieces. OUTSTANDING WORK Y'ALL !

  • @jimslats6926
    @jimslats6926 Місяць тому +2

    True. The NBA actually only had three expansion teams in 1970. Not 4. Today's Houston franchise was an existing franchise that moved from San Diego the next year. 1971

  • @neal6473
    @neal6473 Місяць тому +27

    The demise of the braves was caused by bad owners.

    • @AEMoreira81
      @AEMoreira81 Місяць тому +3

      The only way around this was really a new arena. However, Buffalo is not big enough to support two major arenas (it's currently the smallest NHL and NFL market and the only NHL market in the USA not a top 50 media market---and one of 2 in the NFL), meaning the Braves would have had to build the arena themselves to replace the Aud. Arenas built around that time ended up aging badly, and you'd likely still need to have built the KeyBank Arena.

  • @tobznoobs
    @tobznoobs Місяць тому +3

    title should be the franchise buffalo braves/la clippers were screwed from the get-go. there were signs of contention with mcadoo cp3 and pg/kawhi yet they are still failing. bad ownership with brown, sterling.

  • @klewis564
    @klewis564 28 днів тому +2

    Keep these series going!

  • @JamesR1986
    @JamesR1986 Місяць тому +3

    0:45. That is the voice of the legendary Van Miller, who would be the play by play man for the Buffalo Bills during the Kelly, Reed, Thomas, Smith years.

    • @billtooke6642
      @billtooke6642 Місяць тому +1

      He was the Braves PxP guy. WBEN had the Braves. WKBW had the Bills and WGR had the Sabres

  • @MarkSherlock
    @MarkSherlock Місяць тому +1

    I was so mad when they did the Braves dirty. I still miss them.

  • @YourHighness716
    @YourHighness716 Місяць тому +4

  • @bufnyfan1
    @bufnyfan1 Місяць тому +2

    The Braves simply were the third team on the "totem pole" when it came to playing at the old Buffalo Memorial Auditorium (The "Aud"). The NHL Sabres had the first choice of playing dates, followed by Canisius College Basketball, and whatever was left over went to the Braves. The Braves did well during their earlier years and sold out many games but then new ownership was bound and determined to move the team and once the number of season ticket holders fell they had the green light to move and did

  • @williamford9564
    @williamford9564 Місяць тому +3

    13:40: I think the league shares some responsibility for this in not foreseeing the venue situation before they decided to expand to Buffalo. Things were different back then all leagues expanded into cities and took on owners without doing sufficient due diligence, setting teams and owners up to fail. There were NUMEROUS expansion failures all over the sports landscape in the 1970s, 80s and even going into the 2000s.

  • @dewayneperry8395
    @dewayneperry8395 Місяць тому +3

    I remember them.Great battles against the Celtics
    I loved t he color of their uniforms.

  • @mitchellpopovski1739
    @mitchellpopovski1739 Місяць тому +1

    As a Canisius student, never knew we had such an impact on a pro basketball team in Buffalo. We're a small school so it never seemed like it could be an issue

  • @justintimothygarcia3737
    @justintimothygarcia3737 Місяць тому +3

    I see BTV (Basketball TV) . A popular channel in the Philippines with pure basketball content .

    • @elwin38
      @elwin38 Місяць тому

      Kumusta!! From the US👊🏾🏀

  • @robgilham2562
    @robgilham2562 Місяць тому +2

    Wow... imagine Moses, Mac, and Dantley as your front court. That would have been one for the ages!!

  • @lamarlamar1524
    @lamarlamar1524 Місяць тому +11

    Mannnn they got rid of McAdoo & Mosses down near at the sametime!!!!…they took a huge L on that!!!

  • @randycarlon8455
    @randycarlon8455 Місяць тому +1

    As a lifelong, diehard Celtic fan I can say I feared the Braves, They were tough in the two playoff series they lost to the Celts.

  • @bobsiyt6548
    @bobsiyt6548 Місяць тому +1

    FINALLY! I’ve been writing about this in any Buffalo Braves upload there has been on UA-cam. How badly Buffalo got screwed and scammed. You can up and move a team in the NBA - that’s fine, but to literally trade franchises in some loophole to do so was the messed up part. I’m glad this is being told 🙏🏻

  • @gregbailey1753
    @gregbailey1753 Місяць тому +1

    Was a single digit kid when Buffalo was competing. At that age I had NO idea about the arena problems and that an owner would intentionally screw up his team.

  • @PJLeo-sp4gn
    @PJLeo-sp4gn Місяць тому +2

    To this day… it still hurts this Buffalo ‘kid’ how this was all allowed to happen to the Braves…
    John F’in Gianelli…😢
    Still despise the Clippers to this day…

  • @fumedrummer
    @fumedrummer Місяць тому

    I remember going to Braves games as a kid. Thanks so much for this comprehensive explanation of what happened to them. I learned some new things from this video. Thanks!

  • @russellgrosser-7677
    @russellgrosser-7677 Місяць тому +3

    John Y. Brown didn't care about basketball or the fans. He cared only about his horses, politics, money, and the bright lights of big cities. Buffalo? A podunk town as far as Brown was concerned.

  • @Phil-tt3xg
    @Phil-tt3xg Місяць тому +3

    The trailblazers have a long history of missing in the draft, they passed on Michael Jordan, and they wanted Greg Oden.

    • @aceassn716
      @aceassn716 Місяць тому +3

      They at least have 1977

    • @Mongo42089
      @Mongo42089 Місяць тому +2

      Oden was a monster at OSU, most fun I ever had watching Buckeyes basketball.
      Shame his knees ended up being made out of eggshells.

  • @therealjaystone2344
    @therealjaystone2344 Місяць тому +5

    How The Buffalo Braves Were Cursed From The Get-Go

  • @glennm.garcia6964
    @glennm.garcia6964 25 днів тому

    Good job on this video. In the near future, I hope you can make similar videos for these past NBA teams: San Diego Rockets, St. Louis Hawks, Rochester Royals, Syracuse Nationals.

  • @HighpointerGeocacher
    @HighpointerGeocacher Місяць тому +2

    The Houston Rockets were not an expansion team in 1970. They were originally the San Diego Rockets, an expansion team formed 1967 that moved to Houston in 1971.

    • @glennm.garcia6964
      @glennm.garcia6964 29 днів тому

      So San Diego had 2 chances at NBA team: Rockets, then Clippers. I am doubftul that the city will get a 3rd chance.

  • @gregorywolff5917
    @gregorywolff5917 Місяць тому

    I loved watching this team play. So many of my favorite players. Back then I would get Street and Smiths magazines and follow these guys from high school. Great memories

  • @kevinpresley3136
    @kevinpresley3136 Місяць тому +1

    I remember routing for the Buffalo Braves growing up as a young child.Bob MacAdoo was my favoeite player.It's unfortunate that they left for San Diego.

  • @rat488
    @rat488 Місяць тому +2

    My dad always said Buffalo Braves was tragic because they were the best team Buffalo Ever had.

  • @thomassharer8453
    @thomassharer8453 Місяць тому +1

    I was just visiting San Diego this past week, & what stood out was the sheer amount of Padres support & fans. It’s a shame that The Chargers & Clippers are just sitting there as secondary teams in a “larger” market, when just a couple hours Southeast in SD these teams would worshiped!

    • @russellguercio3904
      @russellguercio3904 Місяць тому

      If that was the case, then a move would never have happened.

    • @thomassharer8453
      @thomassharer8453 Місяць тому +1

      @@russellguercio3904 have you ever read about why Clippers moved to LA? (PS it has everything to do with Donald Sterling).

  • @sahm5071
    @sahm5071 Місяць тому +4

    Your guys' basketball videos are awesome

  • @richdouglas2311
    @richdouglas2311 Місяць тому +1

    This was good stuff. Lively commentary, without hype. Accurate? You'd better believe it. I'm going to subscribe on the basis of this video alone, then see what else the channel has to offer. Thanks!

  • @armusc757
    @armusc757 Місяць тому

    Loved the Braves as a kid. Went to Ernie D basketball camp one summer. Randy Smith local legend lived in my neighborhood. Cried as a kid when they left. They had a good run just before leaving town.

  • @ianshannon9110
    @ianshannon9110 Місяць тому +5

    Great video

  • @b4tp3n9uin4
    @b4tp3n9uin4 Місяць тому +2

    How the LA Clippers became the Bizzaro Toronto Raptors. Started just south of Toronto. “Not Like Us” Clippers New Theme song

  • @timmcdermott3786
    @timmcdermott3786 Місяць тому +5

    John Y Brown.....greedy man .....who ruined the franchise

    • @elwin38
      @elwin38 Місяць тому +1

      John Y almost drove the Celtics into the ground until Red Auerbach threatened to leave and join the Knicks.

    • @darryljorden9177
      @darryljorden9177 Місяць тому +2

      Mr. Phyllis George.

  • @thescatman5029
    @thescatman5029 25 днів тому +1

    Tells you how far down the totem pole the NBA was, when a small college team has arena priority over an NBA franchise.

  • @JimVence
    @JimVence Місяць тому +3

    You could watch the Braves on a Tuesday night for $2.50 in the orange seats of the Aud.

  • @stainshield
    @stainshield Місяць тому +2

    Hard to believe that Larry Bird almost became one had that trade not happened.

  • @suespony
    @suespony Місяць тому

    I can remember going to a few of the braves playoff games when I was a kid with my father and some of his friend's

  • @glennm.garcia6964
    @glennm.garcia6964 29 днів тому

    During the time when both the Sabres and Braves were co-tenants of the Buffalo Auditorium, it would have been absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for the Sabres to play at home EVERY Sunday during the NHL season. There had to have been some Sundays when the Sabres were either on the road, or had a night off. Therefore, it is most likely that the owner of the Auditorium loathed the Braves.

  • @kevinkopko7887
    @kevinkopko7887 Місяць тому +1

    Bob macadoo was their best player loved when he came to the Knicks scoring machine

  • @billbobaggins3859
    @billbobaggins3859 28 днів тому

    Capacity 16,430 hockey 18,000 for basketball. I was a season ticket holder for 7 years for hockey and if you add in standing room tickets adds about 600 more. far cry from 10,000. it was renovated in 1970-71 completed by 73-74. In 1940 12,280 hockey and apx 15,000 for basketball. The Roof was raised to add a upper section.

  • @Raykibb1
    @Raykibb1 Місяць тому +2

    And New Orleans would lose the Jazz to Salt Lake City, the next year. New Orleans had attendance records due to playing in the Superdome, but the Dome was horrible for basketball.

  • @aviellepeal7134
    @aviellepeal7134 Місяць тому +1

    I know nothing about them. I'm a Buffalonian, tho so I greatly appreciate content

  • @Alan-lv9rw
    @Alan-lv9rw Місяць тому +1

    I’ve been lucky with my MLB and NFL teams (Chicago Cubs & New England Patriots), but I was unlucky with my NBA and NHL teams (the Buffalo Braves & Hartford Whalers).

  • @yankeedyehard
    @yankeedyehard 15 днів тому

    Imagine this lineup, Bob McAdoo, Ernie DiGregorio, Randy Smith, Moses Malone, Bob Kauffman, Adrian Dantley, Gar Heard, Jim McMillian, John Shumate and Elmore Smith.

  • @kayasflutings6134
    @kayasflutings6134 Місяць тому +1

    McAdoo played college ball at North Carolina, not USC‽

  • @oatmeal5671
    @oatmeal5671 21 день тому

    It was cold AF in Buffalo but I remember Bob Macadoo lightin it up. 😂 He was a baller........

  • @amens-tk5yx
    @amens-tk5yx Місяць тому +2

    I still miss the Buffalo braves sad

  • @Donnybrook10
    @Donnybrook10 Місяць тому

    We were in 6th grade and did a halftime show for the Braves/Celtics game in 1976. Have to pics to prove it.

  • @Deezy_Ankh
    @Deezy_Ankh Місяць тому

    I still remember watching the last walls of The Aud fall in like 2009.

  • @louieo.blevinsmusic4197
    @louieo.blevinsmusic4197 Місяць тому +4

    “Get the funk outta ma face. Get..the..funk..out of ma face.”

  • @KSmall109CAB
    @KSmall109CAB Місяць тому

    Eddie Donovan helped build the New York Knicks into a championship caliber team before heading off to Buffalo. When Donovan became the GM for the Braves, Knick coach Red Holzman doubled as GM. The Knicks had some pretty bad draft choices during that time.

  • @thomasmariano5906
    @thomasmariano5906 Місяць тому

    Just a small detail in the historical context of Buffalo getting an NBA team. Comparatively Buffalo was actually a pretty large metro in 1970 with a population of 1.3 million. Compared against the other teams in that same expansion it was similarly sized: Cleveland 2.4M, Houston 1.9M, and Portland 1M