Why These People Never Change... | Supersize Vs Superskinny

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  • @danirivera2825
    @danirivera2825 2 роки тому +2086

    In my opinion as someone who has personally went through this- Marie seems like she has Orthorexia. Something not a lot of people know about or acknowledge. I’d love to have more people shed light on this subject because like her, I thought because I was “healthy” that everything was okay

    • @madeline3868
      @madeline3868 2 роки тому +172

      It’s a term that’s thrown around but it’s not actually an official diagnosis yet. Could probably become one. There’s a lot of different EDs than just anorexia or bulimia although they’re not as widely spoke about

    • @jenhasken
      @jenhasken 2 роки тому +41

      Yes, it is not well known... pretty sure my sister had this. After many years she's doing better.

    • @danirivera2825
      @danirivera2825 2 роки тому +88

      @@jenhasken yeah- I see a lot of EDs that don’t quite fit the mold be labeled as EDNOS or ARFID. Sometimes getting that labeled diagnosis can help, but it’s all in treating the actual present symptoms, in my opinion. Orthorexia is more regarded socially than by the actual DSM-5

    • @maryamdear2122
      @maryamdear2122 2 роки тому +110

      it was the 27 almonds that did it for me....reminded me of me

    • @WileyCylas
      @WileyCylas 2 роки тому +98

      There’s a lotta “fitness influencers” who r PROUD of this insisting they don’t have a problem & enjoy nitpicking at/are OBSESSED w/overweight ppl

  • @artsyjames
    @artsyjames 2 роки тому +4753

    This show, especially the seasons where they visit Americans, is what finally got me to take weightloss seriously years ago. I was 320 lbs at 23 and gaining every year. The 500-600 lbs people described how they got there (a little every year) and it sounded exactly like my life. I couldn't think "oh that's not me though, I'm not that bad" because it was me, just 10 years in the future. I think it was the first time I thought of myself in the future instead of in the present. (edit: I've lost over 100 lbs since then, for those wondering. 😊) This show has probably (hopefully) helped a lot of people watching it, with the "shock therapy" aspect of it.

    • @ao4-stzf
      @ao4-stzf 2 роки тому +92

      i'm glad it helped you. I feel somewhere it helped me as well, although it wasn't as bad for me- I was around 15 kgs more than my ideal weight- but nonetheless it did give me a push.

    • @alixvs
      @alixvs 2 роки тому +50

      I'm glad it helped you but I can't agree. People with eating disorders love to watch this show over and over again to feed their disorder, me included

    • @pickledrick5158
      @pickledrick5158 2 роки тому +1

      Why would a diabetic be drinking normal soda?? It’s making me cringe 😬! Yikes no wonder her wounds are not healing, high blood sugar plus obesity plus endovascular injury plus possible nerve damage!! She will die soon if she doesn’t change, as a type 1 diabetic most of us do not last very long eating like that!

    • @badpopmusic
      @badpopmusic 2 роки тому +32

      It helped me so, so much as someone who started close to 300 and has not gotten down to the 180s. It helped me start to think long term and not just immediate gratification.

    • @combatbb
      @combatbb 2 роки тому +78

      @@alixvs with all due respect, that is the responsibility of yourself and others with ED to seek help, not the show.

  • @Oonagh72
    @Oonagh72 2 роки тому +1125

    The problem Marie has is that she eats a lot of nutrient density but not a lot of calories. She is still strong. She is just like those HAES people who say “I’m healthy I do yoga every day!”

    • @AthosZ92
      @AthosZ92 2 роки тому

      Arguably its not nutrient dense at all, its just a crapton of fiber. No real proteins, no real fats...

    • @Cybele1986
      @Cybele1986 2 роки тому +213

      It’s a kind of OCD related to food. She sees most food as “bad” and so limits herself so that she’s barely eating anything

    • @BluQuill18
      @BluQuill18 2 роки тому +186

      @@Cybele1986 I think that's called orthorexia

    • @vocasoti
      @vocasoti 2 роки тому +5

      @@BluQuill18 it is

    • @tristantries9211
      @tristantries9211 2 роки тому +50

      Yeah she needs to up her calories. Like not meticulously measure it all out esp with how active she is

  • @spiderlily723
    @spiderlily723 2 роки тому +289

    And Marie's story is a good exmaple of how eating disorders can truly twist you perception of reality: she thinks that just because she picks rice over fries or whole-wheat over white bread, she's eating healthy. It's the most insidious part of the diet culture - this ensurance that eating right thing is always gonna work for everybody (think of how many times did you see a shitty 'salad vs McDonald's meal' comparisons which completely ignore anything beyond putting veggies against fat - no though for lifestyle, workload, price, accesibility, time...).

    • @RubyBlueUwU
      @RubyBlueUwU 2 роки тому +17

      Absolutely! Severe restrictions can be just as damaging as binging, and the concept of switching straight from one to the other as many fad diets encourage is unhealthy and unreasonable. Making small steps and finding a happy medium, as well as focusing on nutrients and eating the right amount for you is the most sensible approach…and likely the easier one.

    • @GabrielAKAFinn
      @GabrielAKAFinn 2 роки тому +16

      @@RubyBlueUwU Just as damaging? I don't know, she demonstrated even a level of athleticism. You see the 500 stone girl doing a handstand with her never-healing wound? If you're going to have an eating disorder, I say, go west of the scale.

    • @gayfield420
      @gayfield420 2 роки тому +25

      @@GabrielAKAFinn ive suffered with anorexia and orthorexia for YEARS. i used to be obese prior to that, and i would never wish my eating disorder on anybody. it's an addiction and it's so disgusting and disrespectful to suggest that its "better" to be thin and frail and dying and malnourished JUST because you think thinner people can be more athletic and move around better. i have permanent joint pain because of my ED, obesity can leave people with similar damages.

    • @GabrielAKAFinn
      @GabrielAKAFinn 2 роки тому +18

      @@gayfield420 I'm not thinking anything, I'm relating what was in the video. She's swimming laps and her problem could be easily solved with a fucking protein shake a day. When you're full chungus and lose the weight you still need years of surgery to get rid of the giant skin flaps, and most who "lose the weight" go from 300kg to a nice 100kg and still look and move like a garbage bag filled with gasoline. If you don't want to call it "better", then lets call it "least worse", suit yourself.

    • @jenniferraymond9766
      @jenniferraymond9766 Рік тому

      @@gayfield420 😆. Marie isn't "frail" because she's thin though. FFS get a grip! We're you watching the same video? She was swimming like a champ and doing handstands. Does that look like frailty to you?? Yes, she's underweight, but she could easily live another 30 years without many health problems compared to the fat pigs who don't care about it, don't even want to talk about it, and will not last 5 more years.

  • @francescovultaggio2540
    @francescovultaggio2540 2 роки тому +1124

    I think another mindset which can be really detrimental is procrastination. There was a period of my life where I gained a lot of weight but I kept thinking "I know what to do to get back in shape but now it's not the moment for xyz reason".
    I recognised the problem, I knew I could solve it but it was in fact me being too sure of myself that made me procrastinate.
    In the end I finally decided to act and I have my weight back under control but I made the process much harder that it needed to be had I acted sooner

    • @Zeverinsen
      @Zeverinsen 2 роки тому +21

      Lol, that's me.

    • @lauraanne5175
      @lauraanne5175 2 роки тому +7

      what was the pivotal point? Was it an emotion? An idea? A thought? What did you see, feel or think that pushed you at that ONE moment of change?

    • @francescovultaggio2540
      @francescovultaggio2540 2 роки тому +33

      @@lauraanne5175 Developing sleep apnea due to my weight was a wake-up call. I knew I had never weighted more but having trouble sleeping messed up my concentration and everything else. After that moment I swore that once I finished with my exam session I would start a diet.
      The only consolation is that having reached such a high weight my metabolism got back to normal after having destroyed it on crush diets. I used to diet at 1300kcal while now I can diet closer to 2000kcal.

    • @Zeverinsen
      @Zeverinsen 2 роки тому +9

      @@francescovultaggio2540 A lot of people try to diet on too few calories and fuck themselves up. That has always been my fear at least!
      It's also difficult to fully commit to the changes as a lifestyle and not a temporary diet, so I guess that's why I keep putting it off in favour of smaller more insignificant changes that barely keep me from gaining at least.
      Exams are too damn stressful!

    • @vimmiv
      @vimmiv 2 роки тому +5

      that's what got me really bad this winter too. "I'll do it when spring comes, it's cold" (granted, my roads were fully ice ;-; ). Spring is here and I can already feel the "but ma allergies!" excuse coming up. I think the trick is to find something you love to do to motivate yourself outside. In my case it's gardening, so even w the allergies I'll be moving around my yard as much as I can.

  • @hippolyte90
    @hippolyte90 2 роки тому +679

    Have you seen 'Secret Eaters'? It's another british show where people, usually families, are steadily gaining weight or can't lose it, so they're put under surveillance 24/7 so they can see how much they're actually eating. I'd love to hear your opinion.

    • @rig2376
      @rig2376 2 роки тому +8

      Secret Eaters rocks!

    • @walterco7701
      @walterco7701 2 роки тому +113

      I used to secret eat a lot. Not sure, but it may have stemmed from my mom saying, "Are you sure you need to eat that?" to me when I was pre teen/teen ... so I started just eating when she wasn't looking. Not blaming her, I am in control of my own reactions, but interestingly - she now has dementia but she is still VERY conscious about food and "doesn't want to get fat." Her portion size is that of a five year old child, my caregiver sister has to struggle to get her to maintain and not lose.

    • @KianaDocherty
      @KianaDocherty  2 роки тому +181

      definitely gotta do one on this lol

    • @panthercat38
      @panthercat38 2 роки тому +38

      it's such a good show! I feel like that was a more accessible scenario for people closer to an average on the overweight/underweight ranges.

    • @miaomiaou_
      @miaomiaou_ 2 роки тому +16

      I loveee secret eaters! Honestly a much more helpful show than SS vs SS, though I love both.

  • @mercurymay39
    @mercurymay39 2 роки тому +496

    Sometimes I wonder about the ethics of broadcasting people's struggles on TV, but the number of scared comments suggests that the real change is taking place in the audience.
    Also, I'm excited to check out your behavior change guide!

  • @emmess6419
    @emmess6419 2 роки тому +447

    I love this show, British people are so blunt and honest with each other it’s amazing

    • @nidha36
      @nidha36 2 роки тому +13

      haha ikr

    • @maribart4237
      @maribart4237 2 роки тому

      Right. Nothing like america. I don’t think they would of done anything with fat people for the sake of their “feelings”

    • @ngeee10
      @ngeee10 2 роки тому +4

      I love it

    • @user-ui7tn1fq2b
      @user-ui7tn1fq2b 2 роки тому +17

      it’s so interesting to hear what people think about us! Personally I’m not very blunt at all but it’s a funny part of English culture to act like that.

    • @maude9191
      @maude9191 2 роки тому +22

      No they are not. Only on TV. In the real life, everyone is all about not upsetting others. That’s why there are a lot of overweight people in the UK (higher than the US by percentage), and only 4% less than the US in terms of obesity rate…

  • @belfrybb
    @belfrybb 2 роки тому +77

    Kiana, I want to thank you so much for putting this information out in the world. Through watching your videos, I realized that I never believed in myself to make lasting changes. Learning about the cognitive and behavioral science behind lasting change has truly changed my life. I can honestly say I believe in myself for the first time ever. I’m 10 lbs down and have hit a plateau, but whereas in the past I would have viewed this bump as evidence that I’ll never be successful, I now know that I can make it through difficult and disappointing times while still making choices that support the healthy life I want. I feel positive about my goals for the first time and your videos have put me on this path. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • @jadeemme3697
    @jadeemme3697 2 роки тому +712

    It's at least relieving that one show out there shows the depths of how being superskinny is also unhealthy and bad. Honestly, the "supersize" and the "superskinny" people seem to be suffering from the exact same thing, some sort of mental health pathology and addiction (whether that's addiction TO food or addiction to CONTROLLING-- aka limiting-- food intake).

    • @nehalilisays
      @nehalilisays 2 роки тому +97

      I've watched probably every episode of supersize vs. superskinny and rewatched most episodes recently. There seem to be 2 main types of superskinnies on the show: A) Those who are afraid of food (sensory issues, eating disorders) and B) those who are not interested in food (low appetite, chronic depression). Most of them are category B) and substitute healthy meals with caffeine, sugar and fast food. Many of the supersizers seem to have depression, too, but with the opposite symptom (high appetite). In both cases it's a vicious circle because all the junk food, lack of fiber and antioxidant rich food might worsen the depression.

    • @jeremyneiderhoff
      @jeremyneiderhoff 2 роки тому +2

      seethe, chonklet

    • @starfox300
      @starfox300 2 роки тому +11

      Super skinny people are significantly less unhealthy then fat people.
      It is far from optimal in terms of muscles and performance but calorie restriction actually extends lifespan

    • @chchwoman9960
      @chchwoman9960 2 роки тому +4

      @Ärztin Shasta There is truth in this. I have been an overeater nearly all of my life. But I did have an anorexic episode in my teens. One day when I was 18, I walked past a sweet stall in the mall. And I remembered how nice jaffas taste. So I bought a small packet. The taste in my mouth is one of my most distinct memories, decades later. From that day I switched back to overeating. I have been on diets, lost and gained weight several times since, and every day is either one way or the other. Either wilful restriction or bingeing. Those who have a healthy relationship with food have no idea what it is like, how could they? It can feel that their is something I am grappling for but it is buried deep in my subconscious and I just can't reach it. I know I could stop, and be happy, if I could

    • @clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920
      @clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 2 роки тому +1

      Most of the super skinnies seemed to have abnormally low appetites.

  • @warandpoetry9542
    @warandpoetry9542 2 роки тому +72

    I’m a recovering anorexic, and whenever I relapse, I binge (no pun intended) episodes of SSvSS. Weird thing is, I’m not alone; a brief look at the comments will show that almost half of the viewers are dealing with similar issues. Watching this show has been described as “ED Culture”.

    • @emilystrickland151
      @emilystrickland151 2 роки тому +7

      Omg yes I did the same thing when I was deep in my ED

    • @BumblebeeeeHoney
      @BumblebeeeeHoney 2 роки тому +3

      Same here!

    • @DarthVader-gp6fm
      @DarthVader-gp6fm 2 роки тому +5

      I always watch shows like that when I relapse, and I would watch them regularly when I was at my worst hahah

    • @lutziputzi
      @lutziputzi Рік тому +5

      I’ve seen a scary amount of comments saying “I think this show started my ED😅”

    • @Sabrianag91
      @Sabrianag91 Рік тому

      Yeah same here

  • @endybendy5699
    @endybendy5699 2 роки тому +340

    When I was at my heaviest (450+, my scale topped off at 450 so I don't know how much I actually weighed) I had a similar mindset. I was going to die, sooner rather than later, but hey at least I had pizza and pop. It seemed like a monumental impossibility to actually lose the severe amount of weight I had and so I just kept on piling it on because to do otherwise seemed like such an impossible task. Now that I'm pretty close to my goal weight I keep trying to figure out my old mindset. The extreme disregard for my well-being and the callous dismissal of my loved ones concerns seems entirely alien to me now. There were a ton of rock-bottom realizations, from me realizing that I wasn't bothering to save for retirement because I knew I was going to die well before then, realizing that at 34 I was well past the middle of my life, to my damn scale not functioning because I was too heavy. I think I reached too many breaking points at once, and where I could've gone further down the road of morbid acceptance, instead I'm now 60 pounds from my goal weight after two years of dieting. Over 170 pounds lost so far, and I've long since reached the state of lifestyle change over diet change.
    So yeah, I get the morbid acceptance...But holy hell I'm so happy I got out of it.

    • @tristantries9211
      @tristantries9211 2 роки тому +13

      Good for you man awesome

    • @AnaRose13206
      @AnaRose13206 2 роки тому +9

      Wooohoooo! Congratulations and I’m sure your family appreciates the changes you’ve made and we are all proud of you! 👏👏👏💯💪

    • @JRA4891
      @JRA4891 2 роки тому

      I wish I could get out of it too

    • @suehowie152
      @suehowie152 2 роки тому +2

      @@JRA4891 Question your thoughts and beliefs about food,health etc with The Work of Byron Katie..You can find her on YT..

    • @JRA4891
      @JRA4891 2 роки тому +1

      @@suehowie152 Thank you for the suggestion. Will look it up.

  • @samruddhikelkar4743
    @samruddhikelkar4743 2 роки тому +17

    I'm currently at around 187 pounds, dropped down from 211. Whenever I am not motivated enough to workout, I watch your videos. Seeing what could happen if i quit my workouts and a healthy eating journey right now keeps me disciplined. Plus it doesn't hurt that when you start feeling good about your progress, it shows in your face, in your confidence, and to other people too! And then the compliments really help!

  • @wolfhawk1999
    @wolfhawk1999 2 роки тому +112

    I don't think she's "happy" with it. That's like saying a heroin addict is "happy" with being a junkie. They prefer the quick fix to the alternative. Even if that means they die

    • @madelainepetrin1430
      @madelainepetrin1430 2 роки тому

      Especially if they die. They see no point in living, no higher motive and that is the root of their problem.

    • @lizxu322
      @lizxu322 2 роки тому +3

      Perfectly said

    • @matthewvaughan8192
      @matthewvaughan8192 2 роки тому +3

      If we’re going down that road most healthy people aren’t ‘happy’ with being healthy either. Most ‘healthy’ people just prefer being healthy to being fat. It doesn’t make them ‘happy.’

    • @Tornnnado
      @Tornnnado 2 роки тому

      @@matthewvaughan8192 nah mate I'm super happy with being healthy. It's fun to do and it makes me feel good and look good

    • @kellylappin5944
      @kellylappin5944 2 роки тому

      @@matthewvaughan8192 Agreed. Being healthy is a choice and the only way to be. Losing weight won’t make you happy, that’s also a choice.
      Being so fat that you can’t bathe yourself and being a burden on our healthcare system is also a choice.

  • @GlasUndMetall
    @GlasUndMetall 2 роки тому +14

    6:25
    She's 58. I'm 61 and NOW I go to the gym 3x a week and eat in a caloric deficit (500 kcal below my TDEE) but at one time I came scarily close to what she is going through, I've lost 140 lbs since then and am at the halfway point in my weight loss, I topped out at 462 lbs. It was when my Dr. told me I'd have to inject insulin that the penny dropped for me and I got busy.The more I work and learn about my body and mind the happier and more functional I am. My heart just breaks for her because girl, I feel your pain. Being that size along with health problems is agony, it just is. Many give up and I get that, I'm just a really stubborn bish and I had a grandchild on the way and my daughter needed me.

  • @Vicky-Hugh-Martini
    @Vicky-Hugh-Martini 2 роки тому +150

    This is more than enough motivation for me to take my health seriously.

  • @crazypumpkin738
    @crazypumpkin738 2 роки тому +32

    I was addicted to watching these shows while walking on the treadmill. 45min episode.. 45min workout.

  • @al-rediph
    @al-rediph 2 роки тому +21

    There are also people who know they have a problem, may want to change, believe they can change, but don't know how.
    Running from one fad diet after another, failing at it, not understanding what happens. The may even eventually believe they can't change.
    It's still amazing for me how many people still don't know much about metabolism, nutrition, ... even after fighting their conditions for a long time.

  • @uninvincibleete
    @uninvincibleete 2 роки тому +5

    I'm so glad you mentioned getting someone you love to a therapist if they're struggling with this (an addiction Dr./coach might also be a good option). So often I hear people of privilege take the 'they should just suck it up' attitude when discussing people's eating disorders without taking into consideration the emotional, neurological, economic, and other reasons people might turn to food addiction as their only source of happiness (which would make anyone hesitant to give it up). Thank you for recognizing that these are sometimes complex problems with multi-faceted roots that sometimes require professional help to tackle.

  • @lexalina132
    @lexalina132 2 роки тому +87

    My heaviest was 272 lbs, working fluctuating hours, crap sleep, it was miserable, and it took a couple years of therapy and watching my grandma dye trapped in a body that couldn't move to *want* to change. A consistant schedule, little changes (i can't say i cut it out, but cutting down soda and increasing water.), a consistant work and sleep schedule over the past several months, i'm down a little over 20 lbs. If my mindset hadn't changed, i never could have done it

    • @joeschmoe3815
      @joeschmoe3815 2 роки тому +3

      Good Job. Keep it up!
      I know exactly what you're talking about, but it's so hard to cook something healthy after 10+ hours of work, especially if you have to do other things too. I also often have to skip my lunch break (which is guaranteed by law 🙄) because there's just too much work to do.
      Yeah, I'm digging my own grave...🙁

    • @darajoyce5514
      @darajoyce5514 Рік тому +1

      cutting down > cutting it out completely

  • @MarchionessDarby62
    @MarchionessDarby62 2 роки тому +10

    The episode of SSz vs SSk you featured is one of my favorite ones, mainly because I really loved Brooke’s attitude. My thought about Marie is that she is likely orthorexic, as she seemed to have had issues with food even as a teenager. A person in her situation really could use some therapy to help her take ownership of the problem and to give her the tools she needs to recover and still heat healthy, but in the correct amount. Thanks for another great video! And by the way, you look absolutely stunning.

    • @Laka871
      @Laka871 2 роки тому

      It is also my favorite

  • @KristenHalliburton
    @KristenHalliburton 2 роки тому +104

    Broooo one of my roommates said to me yesterday, “you used to eat so healthy. Now it’s just…. wow”
    Like bro I’ve been TRYING to recover from BED / non purging bulimia for I don’t even know how long, man. But I’ve spent like 4 hours working out today. It’s sht🤦🏼‍♀️
    I love you tho lol thank you for posting!! I’m working hard to recover

    • @skfoasnxsmm1608
      @skfoasnxsmm1608 2 роки тому +8

      Well you're beautiful

    • @KristenHalliburton
      @KristenHalliburton 2 роки тому +5

      @@skfoasnxsmm1608 thank you🥺 I appreciate this so much. You are too🥰

    • @panthercat38
      @panthercat38 2 роки тому

      are you selling tickets to punch that roommate in the face, because that's a dickhead thing to say. to anyone. 😣

    • @genderlesswhale2868
      @genderlesswhale2868 2 роки тому +1

      Hope things are going well! And if they aren't, hopefully this comment can help in whatever small way: Good luck on your recovery. You've already acknowledged there's an issue and are trying to fix it and that's a huge step. Take care of your mental health and keep going! Proud of you. You're worthy of happiness and health.
      (I've gone through the same, changing is hard but worth every amount of effort)

  • @jeanm9521
    @jeanm9521 Рік тому +2

    Going through this with Diana should make a huge impact and give motivation to whoever that young woman is that's helping her.

  • @MsMusikfreak98
    @MsMusikfreak98 2 роки тому +30

    I think one of the commenters on the episode said that Maria might have orthorexia, since she is so intensely focused on eating right and healthy

  • @shapescolours8105
    @shapescolours8105 2 роки тому +16

    “I just want to be happy and die” I mean yeah same but part of being happy is experiencing life and new things. Part of being happy is having fun. I think she’s just telling herself that’s she’s happy when she’s really not

  • @PropertyOfAleks
    @PropertyOfAleks Рік тому +1

    Hi Kiana, I found your channel by accident about a year ago and your videos have helped me stick to making real changes in my life. I've never suffered with obesity or anything weight related but I have had my share of skin conditions and addictions I've had to battle and you've actually helped me realize it just takes will power and self discipline to make a real change. I get junk food like once a month no matter how much I crave it, I just know it doesn't feel as good as going the extra mile and getting something nutritious. I've quit multiple addictions because I realized it's no benefit for me or the people around me. And I've never felt better in my life. Just putting this comment here as a mini "story" about personal experience having to do life changes as a sort of success story. The work never ends, you just have to be willing to do it for yourself. Sadly some people don't care about themselves as much, until a life threatening situation happens that makes them realize they are gonna die but not gonna be "happy".... It's like when people give up on themselves..thats the biggest issue when it comes to changing behavior.. you have to want it.

  • @kerrieg4359
    @kerrieg4359 2 роки тому +2

    I bought your guide in December but I wasn't ready to do the work, I wasn't ready to change. Something did change the other day and I've been getting through the guide and doing the work. It's true - nothing changes unless you do, and sometimes it's not the time. Your guide is very helpful and doesn't make you feel bad for "failing", it just means you haven't found the right strategy yet. Thanks Kiana!

  • @idontknow1356
    @idontknow1356 2 роки тому +45

    i don’t usually comment on videos but i’d just like to thank you, your content has helped me improve my life in so many ways and i’ve never been healthier and happier

    • @KianaDocherty
      @KianaDocherty  2 роки тому +8

      Made my day! Thank you 💕💕😩 and i’m so glad !! :’)

  • @julianzacconievas
    @julianzacconievas 2 роки тому +6

    Really appreciate your content Kiana. I used to be obese and would have loved to have your content available to me when I was younger. Also, I really like your hair. It's the healthiest looking hair I've ever seen on UA-cam. It's captivating!

  • @spookymadeleine
    @spookymadeleine 2 роки тому +35

    im a simple gal, when i see kiana upload a new video, i click immediately

  • @elizabethm3016
    @elizabethm3016 2 роки тому +7

    i reached the point of counting the number of raviolis i "should" eat 🤦🏻‍♀️ that's when i decided to go to therapy

  • @moxietovani7108
    @moxietovani7108 2 роки тому +1

    I used to not like your videos. I don't even know why I chose to listen to more than one. But you research your subject matters really well, your personal experience is a testament of perceptual change, and you back up your opinions in a way that makes me realize I agreed with you the whole time.
    So, thanks for that. 😊👍

  • @themacksterr
    @themacksterr 2 роки тому +88

    Change definitely comes from within. Encouragement and laying out the facts only goes so far. Until someone wants to make a change on their own terms, they just won’t, and that’s the sad reality of it :(
    Great video as always!

  • @bonjourbanks
    @bonjourbanks 2 роки тому +1

    Sometime depression and anxiety overrides the feelings of wanting/ needing to change. The fact that she says she just wants to be happy and die confirms that she is severely depressed. People like this need constant supervision and help when learning to change their diet. Once you get them on a schedule, and they feel confident about their new lifestyle change, thats when its easier to work on their own. Instead of insulting them and saying stuff like “they just don’t want to bad enough”… is only making it worse for them. They need someone to show them that they really do care and they’re willing to ride this wave with them. Thats when the change can really begin for them.

  • @loseweightwithcraig2895
    @loseweightwithcraig2895 2 роки тому +38

    Have you been following the HAES meltdown with Lindo? It’s fascinating and I’d love your take

    • @KianaDocherty
      @KianaDocherty  2 роки тому +20

      LOOL i sure have 😂☕️☕️☕️

    • @JudyCZ
      @JudyCZ 2 роки тому +4

      @@KianaDocherty I haven't but looking forward to a video in the future! 🤩

    • @Sheepy007
      @Sheepy007 2 роки тому

      What Meltdown? I am fascinated with Lindo, a Transperson who preaches that you can not control the shape of your body, but havent updated to newest Haes Dramas recently

    • @loseweightwithcraig2895
      @loseweightwithcraig2895 2 роки тому

      @@Sheepy007 Lindo asked members of ASDAH if they would like to contribute to a rewrite of her book. They absolutely melted down. Lindo appeared to be polite and respectful and ASDAH responded with things like “timelines are white supremacy.”

  • @marianrosenberry3352
    @marianrosenberry3352 2 роки тому +2

    I’d love a vid from Kiana about EDs and how they relate to things like depression or anxiety. My relationship with food is one of the ways I can tell if my depression has come back or not.

  • @TheSurrealEmbassy
    @TheSurrealEmbassy 2 роки тому +9

    This weekend keeps getting better

  • @GrubbsandWyrm
    @GrubbsandWyrm 2 роки тому +2

    I read somewhere that when the pain of change is less than the pain of where you are, that's when change happens

  • @Deadlift4chips
    @Deadlift4chips 2 роки тому +11

    Obsessive energy is always dangerous.

  • @kevinkarbonik2928
    @kevinkarbonik2928 6 місяців тому +2

    I quit drinking beer and switched to low cal, no sugar vodka sodas, I lost 30 pounds in 7 months. No change in my diet.

  • @peachesandcream8753
    @peachesandcream8753 2 роки тому +10

    I used to love watching this show when I was growing up. I was always overweight, by about 10-15kg, but this show always made me feel better about the fact that I wasn't THAT big. I also liked how it showed the anorexic side of the spectrum. Secret Eaters and Fat Families were also other great shows to watch.

  • @CoffeeGhostandTarotGame
    @CoffeeGhostandTarotGame 2 роки тому +12

    Kiana i had to pause this video to say you look absolutely stunning with that hair style & color, actual double take when you first came on screen

  • @operaanimelover369
    @operaanimelover369 2 роки тому +2

    Kiana, I cannot begin to tell you how ecstatic I am that you are covering this show. I hope you cover more Supersize vs Superskinny content. Coming from someone like me who has used this show as weight loss inspiration, I cannot begin to tell you how hooked I was on this show. I also hope you tackle other British weight loss shows such as Fat Families and Secret Eaters because I also enjoy those shows.

  • @deaddoveinside
    @deaddoveinside 2 роки тому +22

    How can that woman live with the pain that huge open wound must be causing?? I don’t understand.
    That image will be with me until the day I die 🤢

    • @KianaDocherty
      @KianaDocherty  2 роки тому +3

      i think she said it's totally numb at some point but i'm not sure lol

    • @deaddoveinside
      @deaddoveinside 2 роки тому +4

      @@KianaDocherty I certainly hope so. The way my skin crawled when I saw 😖

    • @luma4902
      @luma4902 2 роки тому

      Sometimes you just get used to it even if it seems crazy give up her only source of "happy time" aka eating junkfood and smoking seems a more impossible task in her mind

    • @SkepticalTeacher
      @SkepticalTeacher 2 роки тому

      Diabetic neuropathy means she won't be able to feel it, that's why. The wound starts small and they don't realise because the extremity is numb, then with the numbness also comes poor circulation and poor healing. They don't realise they have a wound until it's already severe. My T1 diabetic friend has had to check the soles of her feet, etc, since she was 11 to make sure she catches anything, because a small nick or a blister potentially could lead to the loss of a limb.

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 Рік тому +1

    Past traumas will give you more insight into the problem than will exploring her refrigerator.

  • @alexanderpalm6407
    @alexanderpalm6407 2 роки тому +9

    Thank you for making a video on Supersize Vs Superskinny! I hope you make more like these in the future. There are so many interesting episodes and so much to dissect in this show.

  • @KiraFriede
    @KiraFriede 2 роки тому +8

    I don't have a weight problem, but a chronic illness and I find it so hard to keeping up with the change.
    I was really focusing on food after getting diagnosed, but once the meds kicked in and my illness calmed down, it was hard to keep that up.

    • @humanoide7076
      @humanoide7076 2 роки тому

      Same, I have a disease that makes it hard for me to eat (have a disease that affects the muscle that work in the swallowing part and chewing too) which sucks because I was able to eat anything and keep a healthy weight when I didn't have this because I used to work out, now is challenging for me to maintain weight let alone gain it which is the ultimate gold and can't even work out

  • @elizabethrobinson6755
    @elizabethrobinson6755 2 роки тому +2

    I used to watch this show when I was younger and the episode with Marie made me realize I ACTUALLY was the problem, like her I had a lot of OCD around food and wasn’t eating enough. I knew I was skinny and looked super unhealthy because people would say so, but I thought I was totally eating healthy and just had a “fast metabolism”. I still struggle with some of those OCD thoughts with food, but becoming self aware that I was the problem helped me to realize I was the only one who could be the solution to that problem. I probably would still be in my situation had I not realized my over health consciousness was the very thing that was ruining my body.

  • @tuesdaymendoza
    @tuesdaymendoza 2 роки тому +13

    Fantastic analysis as usual! Felt this personally, as I used to really believe I couldn't change. I'm so happy I realized the agency we can have over our own lives.

  • @jimass13
    @jimass13 2 роки тому

    I love how this video is just a few seconds short of 10 minutes instead of being artificially stretched. Best youtuber

  • @J276
    @J276 2 роки тому +5

    Hey Kiana, I swear I watched all the episodes but missed that episode? I'm more surprised you watch this show. Wow. Nice.

  • @mztweety1374
    @mztweety1374 10 місяців тому

    I love it when they bring them to America. Shows like that help me to keep working and maintain my weight level because menopause is a weight gain playground. I was up to almost 160 and I’m 5’3. Absolutely NOT! Also my mom had just passed earlier this year and I was drinking/eating my feelings and I’m an emotional roller coaster so….🤦🏾🤷🏾‍♀️
    Christina breaks my heart because I know from experience once someone makes up their mind to hurt themselves, there is nothing you can do about it.

  • @Lamo_o_o
    @Lamo_o_o 2 роки тому +34

    I was told by the doc I was pre-diabetic and it was only a matter of time before I had full blow type 2. That day I tossed all the shit, got into carnivore and I already feel so much better, more awake, no more indigestion.

    • @Lamo_o_o
      @Lamo_o_o 2 роки тому +1

      @@leahb413 TBH I'm not qualified, but I've been following people like Shawn Baker and Paul Saladino, both MDs who know what they're talking about and have addressed almost everything you might have a question about over the years, but also take email questions too.
      I personally started with just ground beef with taco seasoning, cheese and sour cream. Now I'm eating steaks and liver too, but I had to build up to that point where I felt comfortable doing so, because it is a big jump to take if you don't easy into it.

    • @BlackRain_
      @BlackRain_ 2 роки тому

      @@leahb413 Sv3rige YT channel.

    • @AthosZ92
      @AthosZ92 2 роки тому +2

      @@BlackRain_ sv3rige is a bit of a loony and way too dogmatic

    • @Poorstargazer23
      @Poorstargazer23 2 роки тому +9

      Idk, I'm not familiar with who you mentioned but I did into reading medical diet studies because of biology classes (by that I mean learning how to read data points and what counts as statistically significant as well as how data or metadata is collected and evaluated) and most studies I've seen say that too much meat (often red meat or dairy in the studies I remember) can not only lead to increased heart disease an other issues but some evidence has shown it can still cause diabetes.
      Diabetes is not just a "too much sugar" disease apparently.
      This is not something I stay on top of 100% as I am not in classes anymore nor do I work in a medical field, but I did learn to never listen to headlines. Even if headlines cite studies to "prove" what they say, when I learned to read studies for myself, I could see how easily data can be willfully misinterpreted or how premises/methodology of studies can be inherently flawed from go. Also, always look at who funded a study. Sadly, a lot of misinterpreted info comes from people trying to make money off of using studies to make products they sell seem healthier than they are.
      In the end, if you believe something is working for you, awesome, keep at it. I, however, am just really skeptical when people go to extremes of any kind.

    • @Lamo_o_o
      @Lamo_o_o 2 роки тому

      @@BlackRain_ Sv3rige is a goof, he's basically the mirror of an ideological vegan

  • @dawnadevine1618
    @dawnadevine1618 2 роки тому

    Food addiction is a monumental challenge to overcome.... as is alcoholism or even smoking for some individuals. Judgements do not help. We all have choices, including the option to seek help from QUALIFIED therapists.

  • @ExtraSaltyWAGMI
    @ExtraSaltyWAGMI 2 роки тому +11

    Oh hell yeah, this just made my weekend so much better! Kiana content is best content!

  • @justinebidulopoutchini9774
    @justinebidulopoutchini9774 7 місяців тому

    2:10 I’ve seen this doctor in another show with a mobile clinic. He seems so kind

  • @KristenHalliburton
    @KristenHalliburton 2 роки тому +41

    “I do it with my eyes closed, cuz someday diabetes will take my eyes from me” OH MY GAWD I HAVE TO CHANGE NOWWWWWW

  • @echeesman23
    @echeesman23 2 роки тому +1

    I'm so glad that was blurred out.

  • @wowjack8944
    @wowjack8944 2 роки тому +21

    I hate it when these people say they are happy. If you need to smoke, drink alchol and eat so much junkfood that you weigh 300 something kilo than your not happy. U are using those things to escape your miserable life. If you were happy you would not need to destroy your body to be happy.

    • @dianalove539
      @dianalove539 2 роки тому +2

      Stop describing my life 😞😒 I don’t describe myself as happy though. It’s just that being tired all the time is so hard that I mindlessly scroll through UA-cam or go to sugar (old bad habits) but I’m trying to change. 💕 wish me luck? Anemia sucks but at least it’s not permanent. My parents also suck but it’s fine as I have at least one semi sane person in my life (my brother). It’s just hard sometimes.

    • @wowjack8944
      @wowjack8944 2 роки тому +2

      @@dianalove539 I'm also not happy. It just annoys me when people are in denial or lying to themselves about it, probably because i do it aswel.
      Good luck, hope you manage to become the person you want and find happieness.

    • @dianalove539
      @dianalove539 2 роки тому

      @@wowjack8944 Thank you. I really hope the same for you as well

    • @madelainepetrin1430
      @madelainepetrin1430 2 роки тому

      It's the fear of making an effort. If you never use your willpower it doesn't work anymore. It's better to start with small increments. But to live a good life one must overcome obstacles everyday. This creates true happiness, the kind that gives you wings!

  • @reformed1trick739
    @reformed1trick739 2 роки тому +2

    if you believe you can't lose weight, then you won't.
    if you believe in yourself, you have a real chance, no matter who you are or where your starting line is

  • @Ketjureaktio
    @Ketjureaktio 2 роки тому +4

    Third lady acts just like my own mother.. sadly. 😔 "It's too late for me/I am so old so my life doesn't matter anymore"-way.

  • @JennyFB1281
    @JennyFB1281 2 роки тому

    I agree - mindset makes a huge difference between the people who reach their goals and the people who never even get started.

  • @emj7336
    @emj7336 2 роки тому +18

    I am definitely in group 3. 25 years old with 13 years of dieting behind me, each diet I just get bigger. Tried more things than I can name, Atkins at 14, slimfast shakes at 16, many calorie controlled diets, using TDEE and rigourous calorie counting with daily exercise, WW, seen dieticians over and over again, and in the last two years, keto, 1:1 diet (800 kcal of pre portioned food), and several attempts at calorie controlled/low fat diets, nothing. During the 800 kcal diet (which I stayed on for over 2 months consistently) I lost around 2lbs in that time. It feels impossible to lose weight, so I signed up to be put on the wait list for weight loss surgery. I need to lose weight, for my health, to have a life worth living. Ffs, I'm a wheelchair user, and if I could have one wish, it would be to be in the normal BMI range, because either the health issues would go away, or the doctors would investigate them. I feel utterly helpless.

    • @snshn143
      @snshn143 2 роки тому +5

      I am 20y old with almost 5 years of dieting behind me, and similar to you, I only got short-term results before gaining it all (and more) back. I am at the higher end of the normal BMI, but only because I was underweight before.
      Right now, I am maintaining my weight and even slowly losing without having to suffer. I achieved that by asking myself "Can I do this long-term or possibly forever?" whenever I felt tempted to start a new diet (and I used to do many: Starving, fasting every second day, keto, mono diet, literally everything you can think of). My answer to this question was always no, so I didn't even start. Because once you stop, you will start eating the way you did before and therefore gain the weight back.
      Instead, I am focusing on small changes and good habits that I can actually stick to and that I don't dread. I never eat below my BMR anymore, try to have around 1g of protein per kg bodyweight, eat at least 3-5 different types of fruit& vegetables, only drink water and do over an hour of stationary bike riding every day. I used to hate exercising, but since I switched to doing slower cardio I don't even notice it and distract my mind by watching UA-cam at the same time. My sleep also improved simultaneously.
      These points are not "rules" for me but more like guidelines. If I don't hit my protein goal completely, that's fine. If I don't have the time to exercise on a busy day, I don't beat myself up for it. I stopped having that "All-or-nothing" mentality and it's so freeing. What matter is what you do most days and not on one day.
      Lastly, it was important for me to not ban any foods, I just decided to eat some more often and some less frequently. But even on days like my birthday I don't go overboard anymore, because I know I am not going to punish myself for it the next day.
      I wrote a whole essay haha but the bottom line is: Find things you can stick to for the rest of your life and don't go on diets!
      I wish you all the best ♡ you can do it!

    • @Sevren_
      @Sevren_ 2 роки тому +5

      At 800 calories everyday for 2 months and you didn’t lose weight? You need to recount your calories

    • @Godivaa
      @Godivaa 2 роки тому +5

      You’re in denial. you cant eat 800cals a day without losing weight, even children lose weight with that amount.
      What you need is consistency and to be truthful to yourself. the calories you eat but dont track down in an app or in a book to make urself feel better isn’t gonna disappear its still there.
      you need to measure out what you eat and be specific. that splash of oil you think is 30 calories is probably 300 and that chocolate your friend got you that you forgot to count is still entering your body at 800 calories.
      dieting requires a huge level of control and patience, nothing good comes easy. just cause you diet for 2 days and you’ve barely lost anything doesn’t mean you should ‘try again tomorrow’ cause you know that same cycle is gonna repeat.
      losing weight is a very simple thing even though its hard in action, just burn more than you eat. if you eat 5000cals calories you need to burn 5100cals to see a difference, jf you eat 100cals you need to burn 200cals to see a difference you dont need to spend £500 on dietary books and personal trainers. i went from 78kg to 55kg in a year from being consistent the whole year with one month of maintenance.
      Just get up and do the work🙂

    • @madelainepetrin1430
      @madelainepetrin1430 2 роки тому

      Once at a wedding I met an 84 yo petite woman, as she was trying the dessert she mentioned that she couldn't eat too much of it bc she didn't want to gain weight. It hit me. Diet never stops! We just have to make it part of our lifestyle, for ever, non-stop.

    • @emj7336
      @emj7336 2 роки тому

      @@Godivaa well, the only way it wasn't 800 calories is if the company who sold them are lying about the calories included in their diet plan. It was 4 200 cal packs a day, plus water only. So that's all I had.

  • @leandra3542
    @leandra3542 2 роки тому +2

    6:55 when she says „i could’ve prevented this years ago. but no, i was too stubborn. i was young and dumb.“ i wonder if that’s how Tess Holliday and her supporters will feel when they start having health problems after years of supporting HAES…

  • @roxanne8662
    @roxanne8662 2 роки тому +3

    i used to watch this show in the height of my disordered eating (not diagnosed but it was hell). I would watch the supersize and vow to never end up like that, and idolise the superskinnies and take notes on their diet/lifestyle. Its a popular show in the ana/mia online forums, and most use it to further their disorder... It makes me sad to see the comments on the UA-cam videos for supersize v superskinny of people suffering from eating disorders.

  • @WaterPuppy
    @WaterPuppy 11 місяців тому +1

    Anna Richardson has done some interesting shows with educational content, like this and Secret Eaters. Even Naked Attraction, as silly as the premise of the show is, has some fun facts sprinkled in here and there. It's good to see her presenting a show with a more serious tone (even if it was from before Naked Attraction, which was my introduction to her)

  • @srta.carlota696
    @srta.carlota696 2 роки тому +5

    "There's a lot of research linking denial to eating disorders"
    "simply being unaware of ourselves is a characteristic of people who struggle to change"
    Immeadiately i heard those words, the 'body positive' or 'healthy at every size' movement popped into my mind. Anyone else?

  • @bigredradish
    @bigredradish 2 роки тому +1

    i definitely found myself as a number 3 type of person before i got seriously into it again. the worst part is that there felt like there was "precedent"--several failed diets/exercise plans, rough depression, you name it--so it made me sort of believe that yeah, i just had to be 350 pounds for the rest of my life. my breaking point was when my lover and i finally got serious and i realized how badly i wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. taking inventory of who you'll be leaving behind when you go 20 or 30 years too early is extremely sobering.
    not only that, but working retail and seeing the amount of people only ten years my senior or so who've given up and have to basically wait in line to get a sit-down scooter cart is the kind of thing that makes you think "i cannot let myself become like this". sometimes, like with this program, the "sideshow" aspect really does act as a motivator, as cruel as it may seem.
    this comment kinda sucks but i hope somebody gets something from it

  • @cw4608
    @cw4608 Рік тому

    The inability to cease doing something is being used as an excuse to stay the way you are. Food addict, drug addict, workaholic, alcoholic. You are right belief in one’s self is huge also an iron will.

  • @greta2127
    @greta2127 2 роки тому

    You look so good in this blue colour 😍 you' re glowing!!

  • @chukham
    @chukham 2 роки тому +2

    I started gaining weight in my mid twenties. I attempted to loose it 3 different times and was successful (I lost over 100 pounds each time) but ended up gaining it back. The last time I actually lost 130 pounds and have been able to keep it off for 12 years now. I have decided that something in my body has changed since I became obese and it will never be like it was before. There is no cure for obesity. In my case, I have to constantly adhere to exercise and diet restriction. I can have cheat days but I realize that it is only for that day. My mind and body is never satisfied once I start eating on a cheat day. I feel more at peace with myself on days when there is restriction.

  • @a.evelyn5498
    @a.evelyn5498 Рік тому

    I used to watch this to push my ED further.. I have a feeling I’m not alone in that.

  • @GoodMorningButch
    @GoodMorningButch 2 роки тому +5

    I don’t know if you did the censoring of Christina’s wound or if the show did but thank god :x

  • @bowlampar
    @bowlampar 2 роки тому +2

    Unless these super thin or super heavy persons told by their doctor their 'weight' had contributed to any sickness, most of them probably will continue their present eating habit especially if there are no discernable life-threatening health issues is at stake immediately.🙄

  • @Radical_Onion
    @Radical_Onion 2 роки тому

    I'm definitely watching the video for your content, which I love, but GIRL, THAT DARK HAIR ROCKS. IT LOOKS GREAT ON YOU

  • @maryseeker7590
    @maryseeker7590 11 місяців тому

    I think that the better way to put this is : “You’ve got to want to research for a way to make weight loss easier.” I feel that because I found that Ketogenic eating was that ‘easy way out’ because being in ketosis devastates my cravings for junk foods that this is an easier way to work out cravings for carbs. I think that this should be a part of weight loss theory.

  • @tarody3953
    @tarody3953 2 роки тому +6

    This show doesn't seem to really help. They could do the shock factor they do now then film the people learning about proper nutrition and how to prepare healthy correct sized meals. They skip the important part.

  • @lostboi3974
    @lostboi3974 2 роки тому

    That lady in the red shirt reminds me of my dad. He died 1 week after his 60th birthday and missed all his grandkids growing up and didnt get to see me and my siblings reach heights of success that would have made him proud.

  • @signebornemark3411
    @signebornemark3411 2 роки тому

    off topic but like your hair is SO PRETTY

  • @peer263
    @peer263 2 роки тому +23

    Marie seems quite intelligent about food choices and it does seem like she actually has a healthy diet and great food choices. from the look of it, the only problem seems to be adding in more calories/proteins/meat options/bigger portions and that should fix her situation quite easily.

    • @carochan86
      @carochan86 2 роки тому +6

      Someone in another comment stated it was possible for her to maybe over exercise if she did that.
      I agree 100% agree. I also think she needs maybe some cooking classes. Maybe she eats the same because she doesn't know how to cook?

    • @highestqualitypigiron
      @highestqualitypigiron 2 роки тому +6

      She's eating the right food but is compulsively and unknowingly lowering the amount she eats. It's kinda like a weird cognitive dissonance where she eats really small portions but then goes "but it's healthy nutritious food why am I so thin?"

    • @nicholeb5987
      @nicholeb5987 2 роки тому +1

      She needs to eat animal products

    • @Harkz0r
      @Harkz0r Рік тому

      Where are her proteins and healthy fats? And why so many grains? It's not the best diet out there, even taking portion sizes into account.

  • @Latte44
    @Latte44 8 місяців тому +2

    I think Marie's problem is more her quantity of food. Her meals seem relatively healthy, it's just too little at a time

  • @mica4977
    @mica4977 2 роки тому +1

    I might be suffering from the eating too little side of things but it truly is difficult to gauge my own eating habits & needs with only myself for reference.

  • @Lokolifeparty
    @Lokolifeparty 2 роки тому

    I knew a guy who was completely defiant about changing his unhealthy eating habits. He unfortunately passed away recently. 😔 Obesity related diseases and death is very real.

  • @Quagthistle
    @Quagthistle Рік тому +1

    This applies to a lot of issues, really. What I think gets overlooked (because it tends not to be as severe) is obesity caused by other underlying health conditions and restrictions, things that WON'T go away with dieting and that prohibit exercise, it can lead to a situation where the person gives up. This extends beyond weight, too.
    Take a look at just one part of my own health situation. I knew 10 years ago (thanks to the blood test that permanently destroyed my right arm) that I was pre-diabetic. The doctor tried giving me Metformin in an effort to bring down my blood sugar. I spent the next month in bed horribly sick. I stopped taking the Metformin and recovered in under a week. I NEVER wanted to feel so awful again in my life so I said, "Thanks but no thanks" to diabetes meds and went on with my life. Fast forward 7 years and my toes went numb one winter and the numbness slowly kept spreading. I knew what it was, and though there was no safe way to run another blood test because of all the damage from previous medical procedures, I was able to get sporadic blood readings off of sores that bled enough for the blood meter to read. Over the next few years, my blood sugar steadily rose from around 250 to the 380-520 range it is today while we tried several other diabetes medications, each in turn doing nothing to bring down my sugar readings, making my sick much like the Metformin had, and, to make matters worse, trying these medications caused seemingly permanent issues with my bowls that improved somewhat when I was taken off of them but never completely went away. The doctor wanted to try injectables like Ozempic and insulin, but there's no way to safely deliver it because of my extreme (and permanent) reactions to metal. Also, I can't have sugar substitutes because they cause migraines so intense that I end up puking up everything I ever thought of eating. Furthermore, if I don't eat enough sugar, my stomach shuts down quite painfully (i.e. the gastroparesis I've had from childhood acts up) and I end up spending a day or two in bed recovering (assuming I drink a few sodas and am able to consume enough sugar to get my stomach up and running again).
    So, do the doctors go through their fear-mongering about blindness, potential limb loss, heart problems (which I've had for 20 years, but they haven't clued in yet), and death? Sure. Does it do any good? No, because it's useless. My seizure condition (and the "chest problems") prevent exercise. I can't eliminate sugar from my diet unless I'm ready to resign myself to bed, horrid painful suffering, and a liquid diet for the rest of my days. I can't do the blood tests unless I want my skin turned into an immensely painful torture wrap that would probably require mass amounts of pain killers (possibly at fatal doses, judging from past attempts to head off the pain-induced seizures when I was a teenager) to even keep me marginally lucid. When the consequences of doing the "healthy" thing are worse than just letting nature take it's course, the fearmongering doesn't work. And it doesn't work for exactly the reasons she just stated. I don't believe I can change because every previous attempt has destroyed my quality of life and/or done permanent damage I've had to live with for years/decades.
    Now, I realize that obese people aren't in the exact same situation I'm in with diabetes. They could change, however, it's a lot harder to do when the most convenient foods are so very bad for you and your weight makes it hard to have the energy to prepare anything healthy. Add in that many of these people's only joy in life may be the sugars they consume, and the idea of wrenching away their one coping mechanism might just feel as torturous to them as living with the pain from the medical injections, IVs, blood tests, and incision sites from almost 25 years ago is for me every single day (except, in my case, there is no way out, since the damage is already done and can't be fixed by any known means currently available). Please, don't judge these people too harshly. Unless you've been in what seems like a hopeless health situation, it's hard to understand how demoralizing it feels and how impossible change truly becomes.

  • @Ontheroadtourism
    @Ontheroadtourism Рік тому

    I was obese , but nowhere even close to these people, but I was conscious that I needed to lose weight at the age of 58.
    My problem was binge eating late at night.
    I went and had a blood test and thankfully no problems.
    I went on to the carnivore diet as did my wife and it's been amazing.
    See have both had steady weight loss, better sleep and so much energy.
    We swim for 1 hour every day and feel as if we were in our 20's.
    Our mantra is "Nothing tastes as good as thin feels"

  • @rileytimes
    @rileytimes Рік тому

    I love your analysis and it was really cool and interesting to see it used on a thin person as well!
    ETA: watching this again. I tried to watch the show, which I have definitely watched before, but this time all I can think is how so much of what they do (putting the foods in a tube, grossing them out, forcing them to eat food they hate) seems so off the mark. Would absolutely love more of your commentary on these episodes, way more than the actual show!

  • @ohwitchplease1100
    @ohwitchplease1100 2 роки тому +1

    This was a really discouraging video to watch, I fully relate to the last one. I just feel like I'm wasting everyone's time by "trying" to lose weight when I'm gonna fail anyway. I feel like such a waste of space tbh.

    • @peanutbutterandcoffee
      @peanutbutterandcoffee 2 роки тому +4

      Please don't feel like that. You are NOT a waste of space.
      Forget past. Focus on your present and future. Only you have the power to change it.
      I was exactly like you. But I didn't give up. I kept going. Now I'm a healthy person. I workout and I eat healthy. It didn't happen overnight. I went through so many failures. I felt like giving up but I kept going.
      So please don't give up.
      If I can do it so can you.
      But be patient. Instead of results focus on building habits.
      Remember: Rome wasn't built in a day.
      Idk about others. But I believe in you. A stranger on internet is believing in you. Then why can't you believe in yourself?
      Trust me. It will be okay.
      If you want any fat loss tips from me I can give you. Though different stuffs work for different people.
      Sorry for the long comment.
      But I really hope you read this.

  • @FinalHooba
    @FinalHooba Рік тому

    I know a person like these people and I’ve seen them at deaths door, and that is the only time they regret the way they are and want to change. As soon as they are “safe” they don’t care anymore.

  • @mi3helle707
    @mi3helle707 2 роки тому +1

    I was 202lb/92kg (size 18 UK) and now I'm 187.6lb/86kg (size 14/16 UK) still got about 30lb to go till I'm in the healthy BMI section (about size 10/12 UK. The struggle is really but no turning back.

    • @CanopusLux
      @CanopusLux 2 роки тому

      You got this! I was 220lbs /98kg and now 182lbs/83kg. My "dream" is to reach 68kg/150lbs or at least 70kg

    • @mi3helle707
      @mi3helle707 2 роки тому

      @@CanopusLux Nice!! That's amazing. What was your routine?

  • @Nandy_G
    @Nandy_G Рік тому +1

    I was 86kg in November 2022 and now I'm 73kg in April 2023. I still need to get to 60kg this year. Food is really not worth it, especially because it's everything you've eaten before and know how they taste.

  • @ChocolateAsian9000
    @ChocolateAsian9000 2 роки тому

    Ummm thank you for censoring that wound, if that was you that did it; I wasn’t ready for that

  • @PsycHeal
    @PsycHeal 2 роки тому +4

    This show is my guilty pleasure to watch when I'm craving junk food 😂😅

  • @pamisntcraiganymore
    @pamisntcraiganymore 2 роки тому +2

    I have experienced both reason 1 and reason 3 with regards to my weight. A few years ago I was just waiting to die. In fact I used to wonder how I could continue acting the way I was even when I knew it was killing me. Somehow it was the idea of going blind that finally scared me enough to seek out a change to how I ate. Then it was seeing others that succeeded that helped me fee I could change too. I’ve fallen off the wagoN once after my husband died. But now I am back to having much better habits. My blood sugars are well managed without insulin and I feel much healthier.

  • @Aokaz
    @Aokaz Рік тому

    I hope you enjoy creating the content because I enjoy watching it

  • @PurpleT3a
    @PurpleT3a 2 роки тому +1

    Oh my I suddenly want to get my workout thing together.

  • @Hellscap3
    @Hellscap3 2 роки тому +1

    this show helped me lose weight since it really did in some episodes feel like looking into a mirror of the future. I was my heaviest a few years ago. [225lbs ish] I realized I had a terrible relationship and thought process around stress/food and started to make changes. I wont say its all gone perfectly but I am miles ahead of my past self and proud of it [just got under 180 recently!]
    I cannot reccomend enough genuinely 100% looking at what you eat and thinking is it worth it. Cause for me it wasnt.

  • @bruh666
    @bruh666 2 роки тому +2

    The audio suddenly stops in the right channel starting at 3:32 :/

  • @Althea-42
    @Althea-42 2 роки тому +1

    OMG Kiana's covering my weird obsession. Seriously I binged watch these episodes on UA-cam at night repeatedly for awhile. I'm a little embarrassed and can't say why I got hooked but if you look at the comments section of the video everyone has that same story I do lol.

  • @Runner466
    @Runner466 Рік тому

    It’s so sad. I used to be obese myself and tried every diet out there and failed every one. Ketogenic, low carb, grapefruit, calorie counting, special K, cabbage soup. The ketogenic was the worst. I got really sick. I remember feeling like a failure. I remember sitting on the floor crying. I had high cholesterol. Was pre-diabetic. I thought I was weak. Why can’t I just stop eating?!?! Why am I so weak?!?! Then one day I just happened across this guy called Dr John McDougall. Read his book and was in tears. I switched to the starch based diet eating potatoes, rice, beans, fruits and vegetables. I went low fat vegan. My whole life changed. I lost 55lbs in 6 months. I didn’t have to count calories. I didn’t have to eat smaller portions. All I had to do was eat the right foods. Starches, fruits and vegetables. To this day I am thankful to John McDougall. He saved my life. Seriously. I wish I could hand these people his book so they can do what I did.

  • @publicserviceannouncement4777

    It's important to read labels. Certain "healthy" foods like protein powder often have ingredients like maltodextrin which scores twice as high on the glycemic index as sugar. Even butter has "natural flavoring" unless it's imported from somewhere that isn't the USA.