Yeah Legion making it straight only dw made me stop wanting to touch my dk as I wasn't into Unholy until recently. Just hoping they can keep 2h and dw competitive with each other for s1
I'd love to see shattered frost activating when adds dies, and frost strike working on Death and Decay. Would be so nice, our frost version of Bursting Sores :)
I liked unholy for some expansions, but i really took a liking to 2 H frost DK. Its simple, but fun and effective imo. Gonna main it for WW :) Hope it doesn't change for something worse!
well a bih problem i tests,is soul reaper..ok..it do less damage from obliterate , if u count on each KM obv, u get a GA proc, so an execute doing same damage as obl, and on crit, less damage then obl,is a propblem .SR damage is ridiculus for execute with 5seconds delay to explode, specially in M+
Frost seems awesome in the prepatch, however, i've been testing in beta and im not liking the constant nerfs, it feels like frost is starting to fall behind and the idea of investing in a spec now just to end up not being as good in s1 of tww its a super feelsbadman, at elast for me. What do you think of frost at this current beta build, Biceps? And will we eventually fall much behind?
Dont you think they should remove GA and replace it as aoe spender with Frostscythe? Im hoping, that one day Soul Reaper will actually pop a wound for Unholy and crit for frost consuming KM. That would be nice synergy with our kit
Hey there, in situations where I have not enough runic power to spend and no procs, should I press Howling blast or Obliterate? or in general, do we ever press Obliterate without Killing machine proc? or maybe cleave Obliterate with Rider of the Apocalypse which has 10s reduced cd of death and decay?
@@Bicepspump is glacial advance still worth using in pillow windows or use howling blast and frost strikes for the hasted global to pump out more killing machines
I know frost DK is easy, and im trying to get into it. Im just a bit confused. Do u spend D&D on CD or only for certain amount of packs, since u cant keep 100% uptime?
Stats are different in TWW than in Dragonflight. Stats are almost half of what they are in the pre-patch, and mastery increases frost damage. You won't have the same damage in TWW when it releases. Some specs that are strong in the pre-patch are not good in the beta anymore, and the beta reflects what TWW will be on release.
Wish they’d make remorseless winter replace D&D. Like I get the want for high skill expression and having a variety of abilities that give a strong priority and high skill ceiling, but there’s just like a lot of superfluous setup.
@@Dilllll26 if you’re down with it cool, but to me it feels a bit busy with having to make sure you work a D&D into a rotation for your strongest cleave when you’re already dropping remorseless, howling blast, chill streak, maybe glacial advance, pillar of frost (yes I know it’s macro’d), then your obliterates too and it’s just a lot that could honestly be combined together in many cases.
I think the doble ams talent, little bit strange...cos it can give it to pet or ghoul if they too close to us...why not blizz make it only nearby player who got the second ams 😂
Yay! So happy about 2H obliteration state after all those changes. As always thanks, for the video, great work! One question though: Doesn't Icy Death Torrent have 100% chance to proc (when auto attack crits) with 2 handed and 50% for dual wield?
No, warlocks can't help with afflicted. They can dispel magic and that's the one debuff type that's not on afflicted. That comp is forcing the pally to solo the affix.
dont you feel like you've lost your mind a little bit when you care this much about efficiency and min maxing in something as stupid as wow? Just have an AI to play for you at this point
I'd love to play the game but im getting declined for m0 with my 415 gear that was BiS in Season 1. Blizzard did a great job again and made all the accomplishments meaningless. I'll be back when TWW comes out. F that game before that.
That was back in season 1, and the base gear you get from world events now is 480? Takes less than an hour to grab some gear that isn't over year old. It's your own issue that you think people should invite someone in obsolete gear, nothing to do with Blizz.
I see 2H Frost, I click the video
So real
Amen to that
I've been getting great results from 2h oblit since the pre-patch! Thank you Biceps for your excellent resources you provide us DK players.
Thanks for the video, glad to know I can keep my massive 2 handers💪🏼
I was literally just wondering this morning if 2h frost was still a thing. This is great
Been a 2H enjoyer sence cata, good to see it strong 😀 Was a bit sad when they removed it in Legion, so thanks for bringing it back
Yeah Legion making it straight only dw made me stop wanting to touch my dk as I wasn't into Unholy until recently. Just hoping they can keep 2h and dw competitive with each other for s1
@@Urukior4 Yeah same here, 2H and big oblitirates is what I love. Lets hope they will try to balance them so people can play what they like.
Can't wait to try frost for the first time in TWW
I'd love to see shattered frost activating when adds dies, and frost strike working on Death and Decay. Would be so nice, our frost version of Bursting Sores :)
yo bicep any chance we can get a video going over the 11.0.5 frost changes?
Yupp, released now
2h frost just feels so good right now. Even my somewhat casual self can break 600k dps no problem in +8 or so.
Do you have any info on your macros for DK? I keep seeing them and I'm trying to figure out what the cast sequences, etc are
Man 2H felt fucking good. Did a 15 Brack pulling 1.2 billion overall damage with 850k dps
love you bicep
I liked unholy for some expansions, but i really took a liking to 2 H frost DK. Its simple, but fun and effective imo. Gonna main it for WW :) Hope it doesn't change for something worse!
Never run without a shaman, Skyfury is just too much fun!
I'm just wondering why my 505 frost DK is doing twice the dps as my 528 3.3K rio demo lock i mean jesus!
Sim needed for best but having Ashes is amazing for burst.
well a bih problem i tests,is soul reaper..ok..it do less damage from obliterate , if u count on each KM obv, u get a GA proc, so an execute doing same damage as obl, and on crit, less damage then obl,is a propblem .SR damage is ridiculus for execute with 5seconds delay to explode, specially in M+
Any chance of a Omnifrost video?
Frost seems awesome in the prepatch, however, i've been testing in beta and im not liking the constant nerfs, it feels like frost is starting to fall behind and the idea of investing in a spec now just to end up not being as good in s1 of tww its a super feelsbadman, at elast for me. What do you think of frost at this current beta build, Biceps? And will we eventually fall much behind?
Maybe I missed something but what is the macro you are talking about around 8:25?
Dont you think they should remove GA and replace it as aoe spender with Frostscythe?
Im hoping, that one day Soul Reaper will actually pop a wound for Unholy and crit for frost consuming KM. That would be nice synergy with our kit
Remorseless winter talents not worth taking?
When do you use glacial advantage on a single target? I seen you use it a few times on a boss
Hey there, in situations where I have not enough runic power to spend and no procs, should I press Howling blast or Obliterate? or in general, do we ever press Obliterate without Killing machine proc? or maybe cleave Obliterate with Rider of the Apocalypse which has 10s reduced cd of death and decay?
I still can't get past this spec having 5 different situational macro's to efficiently use the pillar window.
What if you grouped with a shaman for more auto attacks?
More killing Machine procs!!!
Hi biceps!! What about Dw obliteration vs 2H Obliteration? There were much difference on overall dps between those 2 builds?
Theyre close, making a DW video as well
What are you using to give the double oblit highlights?
@@the7thstring602 thats part of my twitch sub weakauras kit
@@Bicepspump link plz
@@the7thstring602 you need to sub on twitch sorry
@@Bicepspump Yes I know, link me your twitch
@@the7thstring602 Ah sorry, twitch.tv/b1cepspump sub, join my discord and just connect discord n twitch, it will show resource channels
Do you just use default enemies nameplates or do you have addon?
@@nebula4966 default nameplates
Does Glacial Advance feel like its GCD is slower than other abilities?
Yes its awefull
@@dragonborn2650 yes! Its not hasted
@@Bicepspump is glacial advance still worth using in pillow windows or use howling blast and frost strikes for the hasted global to pump out more killing machines
I know frost DK is easy, and im trying to get into it. Im just a bit confused. Do u spend D&D on CD or only for certain amount of packs, since u cant keep 100% uptime?
@@MrDanni527 just for your pillar windows. You can use secondary ones just after pillar as well
thanks 👌💯
if you dont have the lego do you run dual wield obliteration build?
Would you say two handed frost is more dependent on death and decay cleave vs DW?
Sorry if this has been asked before already but what is that addon that displays your spells on your screen is it like a rotation helper ?
Details plugin called actiontracker
Stats are different in TWW than in Dragonflight. Stats are almost half of what they are in the pre-patch, and mastery increases frost damage. You won't have the same damage in TWW when it releases. Some specs that are strong in the pre-patch are not good in the beta anymore, and the beta reflects what TWW will be on release.
so Frostscythe is still worthless after the rework?
Yeah...
I assume the second km showing is a wa.
@@jaskim5723 yes! Its part of my WA pack
Wish they’d make remorseless winter replace D&D.
Like I get the want for high skill expression and having a variety of abilities that give a strong priority and high skill ceiling, but there’s just like a lot of superfluous setup.
Setup is fine with payoff
@@Dilllll26 if you’re down with it cool, but to me it feels a bit busy with having to make sure you work a D&D into a rotation for your strongest cleave when you’re already dropping remorseless, howling blast, chill streak, maybe glacial advance, pillar of frost (yes I know it’s macro’d), then your obliterates too and it’s just a lot that could honestly be combined together in many cases.
What is that 2nd Killing Spree Proc on screen?
Isn't AMZ good for RLP ? You could contribute as a DK ...😢
Is it better than DW frost? Or at least viable enough? If it is, I might jump back in :D
I think the doble ams talent, little bit strange...cos it can give it to pet or ghoul if they too close to us...why not blizz make it only nearby player who got the second ams 😂
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Yay! So happy about 2H obliteration state after all those changes. As always thanks, for the video, great work! One question though: Doesn't Icy Death Torrent have 100% chance to proc (when auto attack crits) with 2 handed and 50% for dual wield?
I dont know about different proc rates, will have to check!
You may know better what plays best, but im playing frost dk too since 2010, and i think dw oblit plays way more fun
u can delete that obliterate weakaura btw game now pops one on left and second on right
I know but I still prefer the double effect
@@Bicepspump Where can I FIND THE DOUBLE EFFECT WEAKAURA LIKE YOU HAVE PLEASE
No, warlocks can't help with afflicted. They can dispel magic and that's the one debuff type that's not on afflicted. That comp is forcing the pally to solo the affix.
@@DerikDeLong Okay thank you
I saw a crit for 1.050 mil… wtf
I don't think GA gcd bug is fixed now though, better not use it.
I love that I can finally play onehanders❤️
2h shattered frost did way more For me than that build cause the GA bug.
2h frost is the only frost. 2h or no frost!
spamming glacial advance > spamming tab target. so 2H it is
Afflicted no but warlocks can fear incorp
I only played unholy, time to try Frost
Proof that people only play what is strong and not what they like.. sad sad sad
@@carlobertolini7833unholy is just as good. Im an unholy offspec and tried frost. Really enjoyed the gameplay. Maybe he just wanna give it a try.
Unholy is also strong so this isn’t proof of anything other than they want to try it
You look like thebuaffs
frost fever is way over tuned doing 300k+ while evey other ability does half that or less.
frost dk is a dot class.
frost dmg looks bad clearly it needs some buffs *cough*
dont you feel like you've lost your mind a little bit when you care this much about efficiency and min maxing in something as stupid as wow? Just have an AI to play for you at this point
I'd love to play the game but im getting declined for m0 with my 415 gear that was BiS in Season 1. Blizzard did a great job again and made all the accomplishments meaningless. I'll be back when TWW comes out.
F that game before that.
That was back in season 1, and the base gear you get from world events now is 480? Takes less than an hour to grab some gear that isn't over year old. It's your own issue that you think people should invite someone in obsolete gear, nothing to do with Blizz.
Season 1 was like a year ago you acting like you just geared up last week or something
@@TheCruxTerminatus little incels in the comments eating every blizzards shit they get lmaooo gtfo
dawg wow has been a seasonal game for many many xpacs now. u miss 1 season u are gapped in ilvl. go play classic if u want that lol
@@trxperfect1536 December 13th 2022 in fact xd