Bro I felt that, this is my first time seeing this channel and I had to rewind the first turns because on his first turn Cam played like $800 in cards. And compared to the channels I usually see like commander’s quarters this just came as a shock.
After seeing 2 games with Abdel as Orzhov, I wonder if it's not the right shell. The Animate Dead combo is super explosive but otherwise the commander doesn't do much for the deck. Even in an ideal case, you need an Animate Dead equivalent, a sac outlet, and both of your commander cards, which is a 2 card combo + 8 mana from the command zone. In a more focused UW blink shell, you can have a 2 card win combo with Abdel + Felidar / Resto + any instant blink (just cast it on someone's end step and untap with infinite 1/1s) that doesn't require the background to be on the field in addition. While you work up to the combo, you can just do good value stuff like blinking Skyclave Apparition / Detention Sphere or Arcum's Astrolabe. And you can also go infinite with any 2 O-Ring effects + commander. If all else fails, you can still have combo lines with Deadeye + Drake, Brago + Resonator, Displacer Kitten lines, etc.
Well abdel can in Orzhov also do stuff with instant blink and felidar/resto and win without animate dead. for example abdel felidar/resto and altar of the brood.
Candlekeep Sage is probably the most obvious background for Abdel, card advantage from the command zone is nuts and one of the few instances you want the background out before the commander
Really solid stuff in here and I think showcases why you might choose Zevlor over the other grixis options out there. Kess might be the closest to the sort of grindy midrange that Zevlor can bring to the table with his ability. Abdel just might not make it there as a commander compared to a very real upgrade to WGD in decks like MAD Farm, but I understand that's less interesting than trying to showcase the new Baldur's Gate commander options. Again some pretty cool plays out of Gale. Not quite as huge as that game 1 but hard to top that. Raggadragga... It's just a steep hill to climb trying to have a beat down commander in colors that are going to struggle to assemble a combo win with Aggravated Assault. Maybe it was just a couple of rough showings of the deck but it has looked outclassed at these tables.
Yeah the jeska's will value is nuts, i have a kess and zevlor could be a better commander instead. Would abrade also work, possibly clearing not just creatures but artifacts as well? Still thinking whether ditching the intuition wincon is good trade for zevlor shenanigans
Jeska's will was my first thought when i saw the errata for Zevlor, such a good interaction, nice win for Cam but he could certainly have done it clearer wth what was in his yard.
Gale and Zevlor are both characters in the upcoming Baldur's Gate 3. Gale is a companion you can get, and you can give him a book of Necromancy in the early access so nice little flavor there with him being Dimir in this deck
as Cameron lost the coin flip and said "play to loose" i gave me an idea for a prank/april fools episode where everybody is trying to lose as fast as possible, fastest games ever, and the winner of the table is actly the looser of the pod :dd
By the way just got a few packs from a draft and pulled two Zevlars.. Guess they trying to tell me something because I just ran across this video when I woke up today😏this guy is strong..
so they have a rule change for thassa they considering where the card you name must be in your decklist (but it really doesn;t stop much cus you can just name a card in already in your hand
No, the rules are the same as they've always been: you can choose the name of any card that exists, even cards that aren't legal in the format you're playing. "201.4. If an effect instructs a player to choose a card name, the player must choose the name of a card in the Oracle card reference. (See rule 108.1.) A player may not choose the name of a token unless it’s also the name of a card."
@@pe3der Sweden is basically the birthplace of black and doom metal with Bathory being one of the progenitors of the genre. So while the woods of Sweden aren’t super gothic it’s more spiritually fitting 🤔but if you all are down to go tromping in the woods of ‘Vania for some black metal intros we wouldn’t object 😂
I will say, Zevlar got errata’d if you look at its oracle text it now says that targets ONLY a single opponent so I don’t think the jeska’s would have worked that same way anymore?
Remember that the "exile three cards" mode doesn't target. As long as the first mode is chosen, Jeska's Will only has one target (even if the second mode is chosen as well).
Nice game but I have a question! Wouldn't Gale work like breach in the sense that for example you can't cast force of will or deflecting swat for their alternate costs from the gy?
Breach states the escape cost is the same as the card's mana cost + exile 3 cards. Gale simply states you can cast stuff from your graveyard. I think theyre different, and i dont see the same ruling as breach for gale; "If you cast a spell with its escape permission, you can’t choose to apply any other alternative costs or to cast it without paying its mana cost. If it has any additional costs, you must pay those.(2020-01-24)"
When wiping the board with massacre, why does Priest of Titania die and the Birds don't? Both creatures have a mana ability, so the commander should pump them both. Did I get anything wrong?
wouldn’t it be better to build around Raggadragga 2nd ability in cEDH and not his first? That just seems like a nice bonus for playing the mana dorks you already play but the +7+7 on Raggadragga seems what I would focus on since you need every combat step to be threatening player removal or infinite combats.
I guess we have to wait for errata and rulings but I’m curious to see if Gale actually lets you get around timing restrictions to cast sorceries at instant speed (like that Massacre). That would be a huge boost in my evaluation of the card
Whenever an effect gives you permission to cast a spell, you ignore normal timing restrictions for that spell. "601.3. A player can begin to cast a spell only if a rule or effect allows that player to cast it and no rule or effect prohibits that player from casting it." In this case, an effect allows it, so you can do it. (Normally, a rule allows it: there's no rule saying that you _can't_ cast sorceries at instant speed; only 307.1 saying that you _can_ do it at sorcery speed.)
@@therealax6 thanks! This guy is sick then, that was my main hesitation. There’s so many super strong sorceries, playing them at instant speed will be nuts
Play a couple games slower please as teaching methods it sure would help thank you and maybe explain each move just a couple of times some people may not like it and some people may but you’d be helping your audience thank you
Hey if you guys are going to be in the same room as the Nitpicking Nerds you can also take the opportunity to explain to them that cEDH and EDH are the same format because they seem to be under the impression that they're two different formats. I unsubbed from them a while ago out of frustration because of their insistence that they're two different formats.
I'd agree with their sentiment but not due to rules. It's just the principle of it. If I sit down with a stompy deck, Xenagos or Maelstrom Wanderer or something that wants to make big boards around turns 4, 5, or 6 but then my opponent brings a TurboNaus list the two of us aren't even in the same league. In my mind, EDH is about having fun and cEDH is about winning at any cost and I would never want to mix the two into one pod.
@@anonymoususer5351 I don't view cEDH as being a format where winning at all costs is the end goal of the format, instead I think it's more of a mindset. People have a tendency towards playing really big splashy spells that are powerful when they hit the board, but then it gets removed/countered and then they spend the rest of the game either drawing into land, or drawing into cards that either do not progress their board, or slow the game to a halt. I used to play really bad cards, I mean the draft chafiest of draft chaft kind of stuff. Sometimes those cards work great in EDH because it's a slower format, but what I've found from playing with a competitive mind set is that I began to reevaluate cards and how I build my decks. I began cutting cards that I loved, but really did not help me win, I began to think, "Yeah this card is good, but does it do enough?" And then I began to just build in my mind the decks of my opponents and I'd be at work distracting myself with all of the possible plays my opponents could play, how I could answer a specific situation and then I'd put these ideas into motion and see the impact of my ideas in game. When it comes to "power levels," of decks I also find that designation to be a bit arbitrary. I think all decks can stand equally in terms of variance and the likelihood either you or your opponent fuck up. Lower powered decks may end up running more creatures or other forms of interaction that the "higher powered," decks can't answer, or they simply get aggro'd out before they can do anything. People like to look at cEDH as a "pay to win," format, but if you build your deck to maximize the likelihood of you creating an overwhelming board state then you have just as much of a chance of winning as anyone else.
@@BenLaakkonen your 2nd and 3rd paragraph exactly described what I designated as the destinction between EDH and cEDH, that being removing cards that you enjoyed or were fun for the sake of efficiency. The mindset you mentioned early on appears also to be the mindset between playing splashy effects and efficient effects, which again is the difference between fun and pure desire to win. Your last point about a deck generating an overwhelming board and winning through that even in a competitive environment I have to firmly disagree with. In a world where hyper fast combo decks exist as a strong part of the cEDH meta (being its own format with its own meta), anything meant to be played competitively needs to be prepared for those types of decks or other things the meta showcases frequently. That is why white Rule of Law effects are popular in cEDH right now, because the cEDH meta has frontrunners and decks built to counteract them. Having a big board means nothing if your opponent was able to cast AdNaus and win unimpeeded.
@@anonymoususer5351 Stop playing bad cards. Just because you like a card does not mean it's a good card. I stopped playing bad cards and all of a sudden I started winning more games. Mind. Blown.
@@PlaytoWinMTG because winning is for suckers and I can play humility and Dovescape! I built it with blue polymorph but added Elesh Norn. "Polymorph with a chance of Praetor"
Elminster with lots of draw can cast two Approach of the Second Sun quickly after finding the first one. The extra turn, terminus, and angel token making miracle cards are pretty solid too.
This way to play commander just hurts to see. How you have butcherd my boy. Why you guys not just play legacy tourments? I dont understand. imean.....play what u like but....autsch. oh. hard to watch
Tyler casts a Mystic Remora, and for the first time ever no one feeds it. Tyler would be proud if he wasn't the one playing fish for once.
It got one nibble off the grim monolith
Cam- "what did you do putting powerful cards in everyone's decks?!" LMFAO
Lol
Bro I felt that, this is my first time seeing this channel and I had to rewind the first turns because on his first turn Cam played like $800 in cards. And compared to the channels I usually see like commander’s quarters this just came as a shock.
@@iwedeb5535 They mostly play proxies for those expensive cards. Some run well into the thousands!
@@therealax6 I see that makes sense I was wondering why each deck was worth more than a car.
It’s been really interesting to see more creature based wincons in cedh as opposed to them just being value engines
“Begin” has become more of a fever dream each episode and honestly I’m here for it.
I look forward to a new “begin” every week. You guys never disappoint
Any deck that runs Peek is gonna steal my heart. Love it!
1 mana draw a card, so good
@@PlaytoWinMTG In this deck, strictly better than Ancestral Recall :P
@@davidsanzrodriguez9347 it's 3 mana tho, you gotta pay for zevlor
It is honestly a very fun card. People don't like me seeing there hand while I'm playing counterspell tribal.
After seeing 2 games with Abdel as Orzhov, I wonder if it's not the right shell. The Animate Dead combo is super explosive but otherwise the commander doesn't do much for the deck. Even in an ideal case, you need an Animate Dead equivalent, a sac outlet, and both of your commander cards, which is a 2 card combo + 8 mana from the command zone. In a more focused UW blink shell, you can have a 2 card win combo with Abdel + Felidar / Resto + any instant blink (just cast it on someone's end step and untap with infinite 1/1s) that doesn't require the background to be on the field in addition. While you work up to the combo, you can just do good value stuff like blinking Skyclave Apparition / Detention Sphere or Arcum's Astrolabe. And you can also go infinite with any 2 O-Ring effects + commander. If all else fails, you can still have combo lines with Deadeye + Drake, Brago + Resonator, Displacer Kitten lines, etc.
Yeah I built him in UW. The fact that you can keep flickering mystic remora to keep it around all game is amazing lol
Well abdel can in Orzhov also do stuff with instant blink and felidar/resto and win without animate dead. for example abdel felidar/resto and altar of the brood.
Candlekeep Sage is probably the most obvious background for Abdel, card advantage from the command zone is nuts and one of the few instances you want the background out before the commander
Really solid stuff in here and I think showcases why you might choose Zevlor over the other grixis options out there. Kess might be the closest to the sort of grindy midrange that Zevlor can bring to the table with his ability.
Abdel just might not make it there as a commander compared to a very real upgrade to WGD in decks like MAD Farm, but I understand that's less interesting than trying to showcase the new Baldur's Gate commander options.
Again some pretty cool plays out of Gale. Not quite as huge as that game 1 but hard to top that.
Raggadragga... It's just a steep hill to climb trying to have a beat down commander in colors that are going to struggle to assemble a combo win with Aggravated Assault. Maybe it was just a couple of rough showings of the deck but it has looked outclassed at these tables.
Yeah the jeska's will value is nuts, i have a kess and zevlor could be a better commander instead.
Would abrade also work, possibly clearing not just creatures but artifacts as well?
Still thinking whether ditching the intuition wincon is good trade for zevlor shenanigans
Jeska's will was my first thought when i saw the errata for Zevlor, such a good interaction, nice win for Cam but he could certainly have done it clearer wth what was in his yard.
Awesome! Looking forward to meeting you guys on my home turf 😁
Yesss
Said it before, I’ll say it again; beginning intros, absolute chefs kiss 🙌🤝
This video made me see the true Zevlor potential, and now I have to build one...damn!
I'd like to see you guys do cEDH but using the WOTC employee only commanders
This would be awesome
Badass game! GG! The triple peek was awesome haha.
Aren’t the spells cast by Gale get exiled instead of going back into the graveyard?
Running on like 5 hours of sleep but yet again I will power through a new episode 😎
Love it, that you are coming to Sweden! See you there! :)
I've never wanted to sleeve up Jeska's Will more in my life. Have fun in Sweden!
Take away - JWill is truely great. Happy to see them reprinting it in a precon
Gale and Zevlor are both characters in the upcoming Baldur's Gate 3. Gale is a companion you can get, and you can give him a book of Necromancy in the early access so nice little flavor there with him being Dimir in this deck
zevlor tripling up the jeska's will was not an interaction i was tracking, how fun!
Of course my favorite UA-cam channel goes to Sweden the week after I am there.
I'm building a mid power raggadragga deck and I'm looking forward to see how the cedh version goes
Best news! See you guys in Malmo 🤩
Would love to see an updated Scion of the Ur Dragon cedh deck with the spicy new tech of the U, R and B elder dragons from Baldur's Gate.
Sick Zevlor/Jeska's Will win! Showing off two cards from the set is sweet.
That was the most broken Jeska’s Will I’ve ever seen. Holy cow
that may be one of the best showings of thoracle win in Grixis
Another really interesting game. All those decks were looking fun to play
Their "Begin" segment is getting more & more spooky.
as Cameron lost the coin flip and said "play to loose" i gave me an idea for a prank/april fools episode where everybody is trying to lose as fast as possible, fastest games ever, and the winner of the table is actly the looser of the pod :dd
That endurance after the peer omg
The set is clearly called
Electric boogaloo 2 on Baldur's Gate
Nate having Endurance in hand while Gale was on top of Tyler's library was a nailbiter.
Endurance doesn't effect the top of library. It just puts the graveyard on bottom so the Gale wouldn't be effected
@@matthewspear2053 Ahhh, thought it shuffled. Leaving the comment up.
I want some Play to Win sleeves with Cam and his 18 arms in that intro
Man, I'd like to see Raggadragga going off in a match
"Agent RazAbdel Cat" as usual y'all are the GOATs at naming decks lmao
Also if the goal with the "Begin" part is to simulate a magic mushroom fever dream, then congratulations. Right on the money.
Why do I keep thinking of Zevlor in my mind as "Edgelord" ?
Another very enjoyable video! You should do a best enchantress deck in cEDH video.
Love seeing Peer wins!
Damn!!!! That was fast👀👀👀
By the way just got a few packs from a draft and pulled two Zevlars.. Guess they trying to tell me something because I just ran across this video when I woke up today😏this guy is strong..
Trickbind definitely needs to be played more.
I think faldorn, dread wolf herald might work in cedh and precon too lol
How rooted is Ragavan that it fits in the grixis deck.
The Best Part of Sundays 🤘🤘
At 5:25 my mind was blown
Did Dylan draw for esper when Tyler cast submerge ?
See you guys in Malmo!!
Tier1Con LFG!!! Sick game!
Can’t wait!
I swear that one time someone playing in a black/doom metal band is going to pay you to use one of the intros as an album cover HAHAHAHA
Why is Camron in the “worship the sun” position during begin? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
have y’all built decks around the street fighter cards yet?
😩 that endurance! Should’ve been before the PITA.
Really a nice game!
Ah, shame that it's not Stockholm. Travelling to Malmo from Gotland is a little further than I have time for.
so they have a rule change for thassa they considering where the card you name must be in your decklist (but it really doesn;t stop much cus you can just name a card in already in your hand
Who told you that
No, the rules are the same as they've always been: you can choose the name of any card that exists, even cards that aren't legal in the format you're playing.
"201.4. If an effect instructs a player to choose a card name, the player must choose the name of a card in the Oracle card reference. (See rule 108.1.) A player may not choose the name of a token unless it’s also the name of a card."
WHERE CAN I GET THESE BIG COLORED DICE! I WANT THEM!!!
Dylan and Cam, while you’re in Sweden FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, FILM MORE BLACKMETAL/DOOM METAL INTROS IN THE WOODS. It’s too good to pass up!
What, are Sweden's woods super goth or something? Just sayin, PTW lives in a state where the second half of the name literally means woods 😂
@@pe3der Sweden is basically the birthplace of black and doom metal with Bathory being one of the progenitors of the genre. So while the woods of Sweden aren’t super gothic it’s more spiritually fitting 🤔but if you all are down to go tromping in the woods of ‘Vania for some black metal intros we wouldn’t object 😂
@@kstandish42 gotcha I just don't know enough about metal lol.
@@kstandish42 nope, Sweden is Melo-D
I will say, Zevlar got errata’d if you look at its oracle text it now says that targets ONLY a single opponent so I don’t think the jeska’s would have worked that same way anymore?
it would! Jeska's will only has one target
Remember that the "exile three cards" mode doesn't target. As long as the first mode is chosen, Jeska's Will only has one target (even if the second mode is chosen as well).
The “Begin” in the intro is getting more and more into Backrooms territory.
I WAS JUST WATCHING BACKROOMS ON INSTAGRAM, so that makes some sense
how was raggadraga the only one with interaction against that breach 😅
Where can I get Cam’s playmat?
I am curious if you guys are going to the Naara kittin combo deck
I am once again asking that someone play Jaheira ramp.
Ok I just have to know, anybody have a clue what Tyler’s playmat is and where I can find it? Absolutely sick art
It is the moxfield playmat !
How did birds survive the Massacre @6:25?
Not that it seemed to have any effect on the outcome of the game
Raggadragga was giving it +2/+2.
@@therealax6 ah yes, I'm dumb thanks
R O L L F O R I N I T I A T I V E
and I gotta say that's the most transcendant B E G I N in a long time haha
Marwyn the nurturer seems really good in dragga. Is it in there?
Play to lose could be when you discuss good and bad cards or review games.
Make sure you get some meatballs! ;)
Despite winning, Zevlor looked too slow/mana intensive. But I wonder if it's still good enough because it's Grixis (and still an advantage engine).
Ooooo Sweden!
do you guys own most of the cards you play? if not which ones are proxys and stuff?
"scion of halaster is so bad"
my siblings in christ it is a common
Right
An Awesome Game Guys :)
Nice duration.
Nice game but I have a question! Wouldn't Gale work like breach in the sense that for example you can't cast force of will or deflecting swat for their alternate costs from the gy?
Breach states the escape cost is the same as the card's mana cost + exile 3 cards. Gale simply states you can cast stuff from your graveyard. I think theyre different, and i dont see the same ruling as breach for gale; "If you cast a spell with its escape permission, you can’t choose to apply any other alternative costs or to cast it without paying its mana cost. If it has any additional costs, you must pay those.(2020-01-24)"
Did Cam cast snap on his own dockside? Does the text read opponents creature?
Yes he did. No it does not
@@PlaytoWinMTG I apologize, I completely forgot the text on snap,
When wiping the board with massacre, why does Priest of Titania die and the Birds don't? Both creatures have a mana ability, so the commander should pump them both. Did I get anything wrong?
Priest died to the Lightning Bolt copy not Massacre.
@@oliverbeaumont2298
Ahhhhhh. Thx
It kills me a little inside hearing everyone pronounce Gorion(Gore-eye-uhn) wrong 😂😂😭..
Great game despite that
Will dylan get his alter of thassas oracle from jesper then if yall going to sweden :D
That jesus piece flag behind cam is 🔥
Isn't Zevlor a misprint card?
Yep! Look at the Oracle text.
Make sure to eat at your own house before visiting friends in Sweden! Have been hearing some scary stories outa #swedengate
animetiddies no longer a patreon :(
Mad props for your sponsored travel!
Maybe one day my content will be huge as yours? 🤪
Wooo yes
Raggadragga looks like a deck that doesn't belong on a cEDH table 😄
Lol ya I could see that
wouldn’t it be better to build around Raggadragga 2nd ability in cEDH and not his first? That just seems like a nice bonus for playing the mana dorks you already play but the +7+7 on Raggadragga seems what I would focus on since you need every combat step to be threatening player removal or infinite combats.
I think you should remove Arbor Elf from your Raggadragga decklist. Don't think his untapping a land counts as mana ability
What's better that one Jeska's Will? Three Jeska's Wills. Thasa should be banned.
You guys should try to win without Thoracle.
I can't believe he didn't counter the peer... doesn't make sense
Who
I guess we have to wait for errata and rulings but I’m curious to see if Gale actually lets you get around timing restrictions to cast sorceries at instant speed (like that Massacre). That would be a huge boost in my evaluation of the card
Yes it does
Whenever an effect gives you permission to cast a spell, you ignore normal timing restrictions for that spell.
"601.3. A player can begin to cast a spell only if a rule or effect allows that player to cast it and no rule or effect prohibits that player from casting it."
In this case, an effect allows it, so you can do it. (Normally, a rule allows it: there's no rule saying that you _can't_ cast sorceries at instant speed; only 307.1 saying that you _can_ do it at sorcery speed.)
@@therealax6 thanks! This guy is sick then, that was my main hesitation. There’s so many super strong sorceries, playing them at instant speed will be nuts
bola's line, is bad card choose in this deck Dylan...
Play a couple games slower please as teaching methods it sure would help thank you and maybe explain each move just a couple of times some people may not like it and some people may but you’d be helping your audience thank you
Hey if you guys are going to be in the same room as the Nitpicking Nerds you can also take the opportunity to explain to them that cEDH and EDH are the same format because they seem to be under the impression that they're two different formats. I unsubbed from them a while ago out of frustration because of their insistence that they're two different formats.
yea thats a peeve for me as well. how are they different formats when they follow the same rules
I'd agree with their sentiment but not due to rules. It's just the principle of it. If I sit down with a stompy deck, Xenagos or Maelstrom Wanderer or something that wants to make big boards around turns 4, 5, or 6 but then my opponent brings a TurboNaus list the two of us aren't even in the same league. In my mind, EDH is about having fun and cEDH is about winning at any cost and I would never want to mix the two into one pod.
@@anonymoususer5351 I don't view cEDH as being a format where winning at all costs is the end goal of the format, instead I think it's more of a mindset. People have a tendency towards playing really big splashy spells that are powerful when they hit the board, but then it gets removed/countered and then they spend the rest of the game either drawing into land, or drawing into cards that either do not progress their board, or slow the game to a halt.
I used to play really bad cards, I mean the draft chafiest of draft chaft kind of stuff. Sometimes those cards work great in EDH because it's a slower format, but what I've found from playing with a competitive mind set is that I began to reevaluate cards and how I build my decks.
I began cutting cards that I loved, but really did not help me win, I began to think, "Yeah this card is good, but does it do enough?" And then I began to just build in my mind the decks of my opponents and I'd be at work distracting myself with all of the possible plays my opponents could play, how I could answer a specific situation and then I'd put these ideas into motion and see the impact of my ideas in game.
When it comes to "power levels," of decks I also find that designation to be a bit arbitrary. I think all decks can stand equally in terms of variance and the likelihood either you or your opponent fuck up. Lower powered decks may end up running more creatures or other forms of interaction that the "higher powered," decks can't answer, or they simply get aggro'd out before they can do anything. People like to look at cEDH as a "pay to win," format, but if you build your deck to maximize the likelihood of you creating an overwhelming board state then you have just as much of a chance of winning as anyone else.
@@BenLaakkonen your 2nd and 3rd paragraph exactly described what I designated as the destinction between EDH and cEDH, that being removing cards that you enjoyed or were fun for the sake of efficiency. The mindset you mentioned early on appears also to be the mindset between playing splashy effects and efficient effects, which again is the difference between fun and pure desire to win.
Your last point about a deck generating an overwhelming board and winning through that even in a competitive environment I have to firmly disagree with. In a world where hyper fast combo decks exist as a strong part of the cEDH meta (being its own format with its own meta), anything meant to be played competitively needs to be prepared for those types of decks or other things the meta showcases frequently. That is why white Rule of Law effects are popular in cEDH right now, because the cEDH meta has frontrunners and decks built to counteract them. Having a big board means nothing if your opponent was able to cast AdNaus and win unimpeeded.
@@anonymoususer5351 Stop playing bad cards. Just because you like a card does not mean it's a good card. I stopped playing bad cards and all of a sudden I started winning more games. Mind. Blown.
Ya'll keep playing whos the 2nd best commander because none of you are playing Elminster....
Why do you like that one so much?
@@PlaytoWinMTG because winning is for suckers and I can play humility and Dovescape! I built it with blue polymorph but added Elesh Norn. "Polymorph with a chance of Praetor"
Elminster with lots of draw can cast two Approach of the Second Sun quickly after finding the first one. The extra turn, terminus, and angel token making miracle cards are pretty solid too.
Mine is kind of a hybrid of Shorikai and Yuriko.
Awesome game, boring win. Sorry 🤷♂️
This way to play commander just hurts to see. How you have butcherd my boy. Why you guys not just play legacy tourments? I dont understand.
imean.....play what u like but....autsch. oh. hard to watch