Space Marines vs Astra Militarum, Warhammer 40k battle report

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  • Sultan from ‪@SultanPlays40k‬ is back and this time he's breaking out the Guard. And in a strange turn of events I decided to run Space Marines against him - cos I painted some new stuff and wanted to play with them.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 107

  • @Rocknoob49
    @Rocknoob49 4 місяці тому +54

    "where is Cadia anyway?"
    "..not around"
    lmao

  • @SultanPlays40k
    @SultanPlays40k 4 місяці тому +51

    This was a fun game! Big guns never tire!

    • @dominicktomko6767
      @dominicktomko6767 4 місяці тому +1

      Hi Sultan! Huge fan, great game, just got a quick question. Don’t the guard auto wound on 6s to Hit?

    • @SultanPlays40k
      @SultanPlays40k 4 місяці тому +6

      @@dominicktomko6767 only if they stand still

  • @RobJonesWrites
    @RobJonesWrites 4 місяці тому +31

    Sultan's guard inspired me to collect guard. Even used his idea of using Jackals to make rough riders. So happy to see the Vorkanis back on the channel, even if some warp trickery had them pitted against the glorious 13th... Or maybe this is an exercise organised by the Lord Solar himself to test their mettle. Either way, a glorious board and two glorious armies.

  • @megazaku1139
    @megazaku1139 4 місяці тому +14

    I’ve been thinking about it for a while, and I think the one thing I really appreciate is the hand cam and narration done by Mr. Winters. It makes watching games so much more interesting and feel that much more dynamic. Cheers!

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  4 місяці тому +3

      Thank you

    • @gavinkemp7920
      @gavinkemp7920 4 місяці тому +1

      I've tried watching other war gaming chanels with more production but only Winter has me coming back regularly, its the naration, the chill, the friendships especially when he does stuff with his inner circle like sultan, and yes having a more dinamic camera compared to the static one make it better.
      I hoping he will get to do something with sayhipaul again because narrative wise they are fantastic together.

  • @BloodBuffalo
    @BloodBuffalo 4 місяці тому +8

    Creed cant use her strategem ability on tanks. Has to be regiment units. This was a really good battle report otherwise. Solid lists but not meta. That terrain layout was brilliant. Very enjoyable watch.

  • @yokogaijinjr.5061
    @yokogaijinjr.5061 4 місяці тому +10

    Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the castallen does not have scout, so the kasirkin can’t scout move with him attached, also the Rogal Dorns ability is before the save roll.

  • @hanson666999
    @hanson666999 4 місяці тому +8

    Great batrep lads. It was awesome to see the guard doing their thing. Thanks ^_^

  • @timo-d4672
    @timo-d4672 4 місяці тому +8

    Excellent timing when I'm building a Dorn! Looking forward to this....training exercise

  • @neshirst-ashuach1881
    @neshirst-ashuach1881 4 місяці тому +5

    Great game, and super close!
    Also I knew that 40k was Grimdark but I never realised there were literally weapons called "baby melters"! 43:40

  • @onkelgroen
    @onkelgroen 4 місяці тому +3

    Great game! I can see I'll have to prepare mentally for my guns not killing anything... I'm currently building Vostroyan Firstborn as my first 40k army.

  • @yurybarsukov6166
    @yurybarsukov6166 4 місяці тому +3

    Hiding ninja canons is something wild) Like and comment to support the best wh40k channel as usual)

  • @thomascoutts9242
    @thomascoutts9242 4 місяці тому +1

    Good game, I expected guard to fall apart after the first turn, but they hung in there!

  • @valkyriegremory
    @valkyriegremory 4 місяці тому +3

    Love to see sisters of battle, dark elder, voltenn back it been a while since winter play with or against them. More heresy games would be fun. But keep up the great work winter

  • @efzmonkey
    @efzmonkey 3 місяці тому +1

    Sultan has a great imperial guard army. Great battle report.

  • @guysolomon7904
    @guysolomon7904 4 місяці тому +3

    Man, watching Valiants makes me glad I built all my tanks as Lancers. They just deal with armour SO much better...

  • @nickhartung6941
    @nickhartung6941 Місяць тому +1

    That was a great come back win fun game to watch

  • @paulturner9675
    @paulturner9675 4 місяці тому +2

    Get some deepstrike Scions for mobility Sultan!

  • @bellportbattlebunker4682
    @bellportbattlebunker4682 4 місяці тому +3

    Great seeing the guard on the channel. Thanks for sharing!

  • @B__C__
    @B__C__ 4 місяці тому +2

    Sultan seems to be using his special 9th Edition morale dice.

  • @uselesspocketwatch
    @uselesspocketwatch 4 місяці тому +6

    I liked the ending.

  • @nestorw8439
    @nestorw8439 4 місяці тому +2

    10:45 I thought scout moves can’t result in you ending up within 9” of an enemy???

    • @karlnygren
      @karlnygren 4 місяці тому +3

      Seems like they aren't used to playing with scout, it's an easy mistake to make. They also didn't realise or forgot that castellan removes Scout on the unit he leads since he doesn't have it.
      Still an enjoyable game, more of a friendly theme game than competitive.

    • @nestorw8439
      @nestorw8439 4 місяці тому +1

      @@karlnygren yeah it’s easy to miss for sure as it VERY rarely comes up. Either way I absolutely I loved it. Winters vs sultan batreps are always great.

    • @karlnygren
      @karlnygren 4 місяці тому

      @@nestorw8439 agreed on their greatness!
      For me the Scout thing isn't that uncommon since I have scout (Catachans and sentinels) and my opponents often infiltrate to block my scouting. 😁

  • @imperialjake114
    @imperialjake114 3 місяці тому +1

    I think your last guard Game was when Mordian Glory charged you down with pure Guard infantry! 💂 💂‍♀️ 💂‍♂️. Great Match to watch, keep them coming!

  • @Spaghettus
    @Spaghettus 3 місяці тому

    As far as I know you can't reduce damage when applying the damage, you have to do it before you roll the save. Correct me if I'm wrong

  • @GrifterX
    @GrifterX 3 місяці тому

    I swear to God I love when Sultan "Plays" I root for him every time! Great game gentlemen! Sultan! You are the man!

  • @WeirdWizardDave
    @WeirdWizardDave 4 місяці тому +8

    Guard lethal hits when not moving seemed to get forgotten about a lot. (Edit) Nevermind, turn 2 the lethal hits kicked in hard :)

    • @OreoPriest
      @OreoPriest 4 місяці тому

      Winters forgot his ironstorm re-rolls a lot, so out evens out!

  • @ericsidney4066
    @ericsidney4066 4 місяці тому +2

    First bb

  • @d7bkyq6
    @d7bkyq6 4 місяці тому

    Would you consider doing paid masterclass sessions….aka play a game with Winters?

  • @vineheart01
    @vineheart01 4 місяці тому +1

    D6 attacks and damage are way too swingy, theyve mostly gone away from it but every time a weapon comes up that has it it somehow ALWAYS rolls min shots or min damage.
    The amount of times ive gotten multiple KMB shots through on something only to do like 4 damage overall is alarming lol.....

  • @timo-d4672
    @timo-d4672 4 місяці тому +1

    That was an amazing game! Thought it was gonna be over fast but the turnaround was brutal.

  • @Adamantos-Elean
    @Adamantos-Elean Місяць тому

    lol big strong independent WAHMAN.

  • @tyhar7493
    @tyhar7493 4 місяці тому

    Could of done with another tech marine with the lethal hits enhancement.

  • @Thedagda801
    @Thedagda801 4 місяці тому +2

    Superb gentlemen!

  • @WoffbootPootle
    @WoffbootPootle 4 місяці тому

    Fantastic game gents! Love a seesawing game that goes to the wire!

  • @RFischer
    @RFischer 4 місяці тому +1

    Interesting lists. It's rare to see Turrets and Field artillery.

  • @Jimmy-pf7kr
    @Jimmy-pf7kr 4 місяці тому +2

    That was awesome!!

  • @albertodiez-andinogonzalez3534
    @albertodiez-andinogonzalez3534 4 місяці тому +3

    Hi, Winters!

  • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
    @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 4 місяці тому +1

    What a game! So close!

  • @pqfire0950
    @pqfire0950 4 місяці тому

    I thought cover couldnt get you to 2 ups o.O

  • @WraithRaider
    @WraithRaider 4 місяці тому

    What an amazing game, very swingy!

  • @joshuasmith2934
    @joshuasmith2934 4 місяці тому +2

    You both made illegal scout moves as there is still a 9" restriction when ending the scout move from enemy models. So both the Kasikin and Warsuit wouldn't of end up so close to one another. But the Warsuit would have the advantage of moving first

  • @ezegaming2115
    @ezegaming2115 4 місяці тому

    Genetic Freaks lol, Sultan has a whole legion of them, the betrayal 😂

    • @SultanPlays40k
      @SultanPlays40k 4 місяці тому

      Nothing wrong with being a genetic freak

  • @strigoi_guhlqueen8355
    @strigoi_guhlqueen8355 4 місяці тому

    Hy Sultan always nice to see you on.

  • @lancourt
    @lancourt 4 місяці тому +1

    Very cinematic ending!

  • @phogelbice
    @phogelbice 4 місяці тому +1

    You got the best battle reports 👍

  • @Interrogator-Chaplain-Yoshi
    @Interrogator-Chaplain-Yoshi 4 місяці тому

    FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

  • @thecasualwargamer5195
    @thecasualwargamer5195 4 місяці тому

    Well done Sultan!

  • @RahByte
    @RahByte 4 місяці тому

    "Thanks to the emperor!" ... "Hey the emperor is with me!" "No he is with me!"
    Gentleman we learn live how the Horus Heresy started. :D

  • @ourcommonancestry6025
    @ourcommonancestry6025 4 місяці тому +1

    You had me at the ogryn

  • @peppermintshore
    @peppermintshore 4 місяці тому

    As usual great battle report and entertaining to watch.
    However If it wasnt for the Votann and their upcoming releases i really dont think i would be playing 10th edition. 10th just hasnt got any soul. Im going back to 3rd and 4th to play my eldar and 9th for Space Marines and Necrons and that due to some of the models being 9th and 10th only models.

  • @OrginalRaxor
    @OrginalRaxor 4 місяці тому +3

    Terrain (cover) cant take the save lower than 3+ at 20:18 as far as i understand... Now you did make them both anyway, but it should have been 3+ not 2+ due to the trees.

    • @notthebest928
      @notthebest928 4 місяці тому +1

      Pretty sure it can have cover if there is any ap involved on the attack, reading from the rulebook.
      "Each time a ranged attack is allocated to a model that has the Benefit of Cover, add 1 to the saving throw made for that attack (excluding invulnerable saving throws). Models with a Save characteristic of 3+ or better cannot have the Benefit of Cover against attacks with an Armour Penetration characteristic of 0. Multiple instances of the Benefit of Cover are not cumulative - a model cannot benefit from this rule more than once at any one time."

    • @OrginalRaxor
      @OrginalRaxor 4 місяці тому +2

      @@notthebest928
      Hmmm i guess since the unit has a 2+ originally it can get back down to that +2 in case the attack has -AP, it can just never go from a natural 3+ down to a 2+, so it only works cause the dreadnought has 2+ normally.

    • @thesherbet
      @thesherbet 4 місяці тому +1

      @@OrginalRaxor Thats correct, it can't lower a natural save value to 2+ but if a unit already has a 2+ then it can basically ignore the first -1AP

  • @bobfall
    @bobfall 4 місяці тому

    Amazing game!

  • @troy6882
    @troy6882 4 місяці тому

    😃😄😁😆😅 5 Smile's and them some nice winters dice where did you get them ????.....

  • @jamesspratley8163
    @jamesspratley8163 4 місяці тому

    For my money you two are the best at this UA-cam Batrep 40k malarkey. Thank you for all you do, entertaining people is such a skill

  • @Dr.PatrickC.Bailey
    @Dr.PatrickC.Bailey 3 місяці тому

    Greaat game

  • @spudmonkey500
    @spudmonkey500 4 місяці тому

    Sorry but strength 9 autocannons! Poor poor melta guns. 😔

  • @zenosAnalytic
    @zenosAnalytic 4 місяці тому +2

    second warsuit on turn 1 you forgot about the sustained hits 1 on the heavy bolter; should have rolled three wound dice.

  • @Potato-nt5if
    @Potato-nt5if 4 місяці тому

    This one was fun thanks Winters and Sultan!

  • @ge9367
    @ge9367 4 місяці тому

    What happened to support bubble Sultan?

  • @beerhammer40k23
    @beerhammer40k23 4 місяці тому

    Ancient fury no longer improves the save characteristic.
    Faq'd.

    • @Paranormal-Stupidity
      @Paranormal-Stupidity 4 місяці тому +1

      Correct. Just one of many nerfs to an already trash Codex.

  • @LydonStrangeway
    @LydonStrangeway 4 місяці тому

    haven't clicked on a video so fast in ages

  • @jimbusher5895
    @jimbusher5895 4 місяці тому

    Yay, Sultan is back 🎉🎉🎉

  • @nathanshobby4646
    @nathanshobby4646 4 місяці тому +5

    It’s a good day when Sultan is here

  • @wardkerr2456
    @wardkerr2456 4 місяці тому

    Nice when the Humans win.

  • @andreaselleghini1037
    @andreaselleghini1037 4 місяці тому

    Impressionante......gran partita

  • @Ian-ph6el
    @Ian-ph6el 4 місяці тому +3

    Hey guys, just an hour in and just remembered ancient fury got changed in the commentary to no give an improvement to the walkers saves 👍

    • @glynrh8892
      @glynrh8892 4 місяці тому

      When was that? I’ve been playing this wrong apparently 😅

    • @MariusGage
      @MariusGage 4 місяці тому +1

      Checked the app and you’re right, no increase of save

    • @Ian-ph6el
      @Ian-ph6el 4 місяці тому +2

      I think there was a lot of feedback regarding it being called “ancient fury” and the walker that benefit most from it is just a mech with a space marine inside it 🤔

    • @Paranormal-Stupidity
      @Paranormal-Stupidity 4 місяці тому +1

      It's hard to keep track of all the nerfs given to the already worst performing codex.

  • @chrishoughton2500
    @chrishoughton2500 4 місяці тому

    Awesome batrep !!

  • @justinallred798
    @justinallred798 4 місяці тому

    How do you paint whiteheads? I have a hard time with the white

    • @thesherbet
      @thesherbet 4 місяці тому +1

      Keep the white paint thinned down, and be prepared for multiple coats (usually 4+). Take your time with it and its really not that hard. Also suggest using something like Ulthuan Grey instead of actual White, it has better coverage and leaves room for proper highlighting so it doesnt look flat

  • @crimsonfist1376
    @crimsonfist1376 4 місяці тому

    number 1

  • @tadcoder2848
    @tadcoder2848 4 місяці тому

    13

  • @chrislognshot
    @chrislognshot 4 місяці тому +1

    if g-man not field its shame and dis to G-man

  • @yesiamarussianbot3076
    @yesiamarussianbot3076 4 місяці тому +1

    Cry havoc, and release the support bubble Sultan of war.

  • @Andy__H
    @Andy__H 4 місяці тому +1

    An awesome win by the loyalists ! 💪

  • @Paranormal-Stupidity
    @Paranormal-Stupidity 4 місяці тому +3

    Good game. You did particularly well to have such a close game with vanilla marines. The Codex is pure trash. Everything marines can do, any other army can do at a fraction of the cost. The Space Marine Codex needs a complete rewrite.

    • @BloodBuffalo
      @BloodBuffalo 4 місяці тому +1

      This is kind of a bad take. Iron storm detachment has been winning GTs the entire edition for all chapters. And often.

    • @Paranormal-Stupidity
      @Paranormal-Stupidity 4 місяці тому +2

      @@BloodBuffalo Poor reading comprehension, or outright lie? You're not even talking about the same Codex. The Space Marine Codex isn't good now because the Black Templar Codex borrows one rule from it. Of course you would understand that, if you actually played the game.

    • @BloodBuffalo
      @BloodBuffalo 4 місяці тому +1

      @Paranormal-Stupidity I do play the game. With space marines. Using the iron storm detachment. And I win. Do you have reading comprehension issues? There's literally GT lists for all events in the world. Marines still win. And win often. The iron storm detachment is part of the base spacemarines codex. Bro what are you talking about? Do you play the game? Are you just maybe idk....bad at it?

    • @BloodBuffalo
      @BloodBuffalo 4 місяці тому +1

      @Paranormal-Stupidity you do realize iron storm is part of the base space marine codex right? Like my man....what faction and detachment do you play that you're insulting my comprehension. How often do you check the world GT results?

    • @chrisprime7767
      @chrisprime7767 4 місяці тому +1

      It's not even just the iron storm that has play. Storm Lance with Wolves is fantastic too.
      I think someone does not know what they're talking about.

  • @MariusGage
    @MariusGage 4 місяці тому +1

    Great looking armies and great opponents.
    Learning lots too, I thought you could shoot through your own units had no idea the firestorm turrets couldn’t fire through the gladiator

    • @glynrh8892
      @glynrh8892 4 місяці тому +3

      You can as long as they’re not blocking Line of Sight, the Glad is a big lumpy thing so you might be able to see through some marines, but not a tank

  • @DrumsTheWord
    @DrumsTheWord 4 місяці тому +1

    What a ridiculous anti-amour list the marines had. Strange that? :)

  • @icebergninja9563
    @icebergninja9563 4 місяці тому

    Yay sultan!

  • @mikeb4085
    @mikeb4085 4 місяці тому

    I haven’t used my Guard in years … thanks for sharing