The Ian vs. Dan jury speech segment was one of the most exciting battles for jury votes ever on Big Brother. You could tell they were both FIGHTING for it and they both did well at talking about why they should win and highlighting their moves. You would think Dan would easily dominate Ian in this segment but he wasn't intimidated and held his own. And it was cheeky of him to play up how disbelieving he was of Dan swearing on his grandfather's necklace that he would take Ian to final two.
Yeah. And Dan could have caught him off guard by interjecting the first time, but Ian flipped it to interject back which idk if everyone would have done.
A lot of respect for Ian for just telling Dan like it is. He wasn’t afraid of Dan. Danielle.... she would have self evicted if Dan told her it was best for her game.
You can tell how much Ian really won over the jury over the course of the questions and speeches. I think he probably would have won anyway, but just look at their demeanor over that entire part. After Ian's speech look at how proud they are. Joe, Frank, and Shane especially look so impressed like they weren't expecting him to own his game so hard. I don't think any of them had any strong feelings towards Ian before that.
I lowkey think Ian deserved to win. He gambled that lying on your wife and god and your grandfathers cross, contrasted against his optimism and genuinely respect for others would net him the game. And he was right. The jury was pissed at IAN so the only way to win was to bring someone that the Jury was more pissed at
How else would he have been able to convince frank and Jenn to use the veto on him? If he didn’t host Dan’s funeral and promise to frank that he would go to the end with him, then jenn never uses the veto and he gets evicted
im getting so many different shit about dan's oath. did he really swear to the bible that he will take frank to the final two? or that he is only telling the truth? because i've rewatched it and it seems like he only swore to the bible that he was telling the truth not the alliance. is there any live feed broadcast? dan also said on his reddit ama that the only reason he swore to the bible was to tell the truth.
I’m still fully convinced Ian was trying to throw that competition, I think Dan convinced him but that comp is such a crapshoot he was accidentally getting the right answers. Watch that comp and look at his reactions when he hears the answers. And if he did, Dan was taking Danielle %1000
Did anyone actually watch the show before crucifying Dan when he swears on the bible? Over and over again, people think he swore on the bible about going to the end with Frank but he only swore that the information he was telling him was true. The only time in the two seasons Dan played where he broke his word when he swore on his wife or the bible was when he backstabbed Ollie, Ollie backstabbed Dan at the beginning of season 10 so it was just revenge. This season was amazing only because we were lucky enough to see how an individual can COMPLETELY manipulate a house full of people flawlessly. In the end the sore losers didn't want to give him the money because he had already won and frankly I think they would have given Joe the win if Dan took him to the end. That's how bad this jury was.
Part of the game is jury management. Some of Dan's moves weren't absolutely necessary. You don't win just by getting to F2. It ultimately comes down to votes. Expecting 100% objectivity from Jurors is a huge, huge mistake. Look at how Derrick won, he groomed every jury member to a tee and read Cody like a BOOK. Only Donny caught on to Derrick, and even he ended up being salty. Didn't matter tho. Derrick had Dan's same ability to align his and other's motives and benefits. He played Frankie and Caleb like fiddles and still ended up getting their votes.
u dont have to call the juries, sore losers. it's a part of the game, they have to vote from the finalists' strategic moves or personal or a mix of both. if u are in the jury's position, you would probably do the same.
@@timocruz510 dan couldn't play like that because he had a huge target on his back coming in and had to get his hands dirty. He managed season 10 jury fine and got a perfect win.
I'm actually glad that Ian won. While Dan played an incredible game, he made way too many enemies, which was his demise. Either way I was glad that they were in the final 2 and that one of them was going to win.
Ian did amazing and deserved to win, but not sitting next to Dan. Dan was a huge target the whole game, has already won, was showing himself to be ruthless and untrustworthy but somehow convinced the right people to vote his way or to believe things that were untrue (eg: that he would never work with Danielle). He was a master manipulator and had one of the most impressive social/strategic games I've seen in any reality tv show. Plus his responses to the questions and final speech were great. He was a victim of a bad jury imo. The fact he got 1 vote is ridiculous.
I think Dan mostly played to get to the end and take the chance that there might not be a bitter jury. He already won this game, 2nd place is just the cherry on top.
While I agree that Dan played a better overall game, Ian deserved his win. People seem to forget that this game is social and jury management is HUGE. Yes this jury is bitter, but their feelings are valid af: Dan did them DIRTY, and his flaw was that he crossed the line too many times and didn't know how to redraw it. He made great game moves, but his social game destroyed him. So don't say that Ian didn't deserve to win.
@@nickwashington100 true but it what makes the best player, anyone can win these comps some are more skill based but let's be real theres 3 main focus of the game, Social, Strategic, Competition. Strategic is what makes the best. Dan, Will, Vanessa, Danielle.
@@nickwashington100 Ian played better socially and physically, and both were very good strategists. Ian socially manipulated his entire team and took big targets out of the game. He front stabbed instead of backstabbed which although both are great moves, front stabbing helps you more socially then back stabbing unless you can justify it, and dan never backed up anything while Ian did
@@jacksonia7724Ian didn’t have a clue what was going on the entire game, his strategy was horrible. Ian’s social game was also pretty terrible, it was just the fact that Dan was a former winner and had to play dirty to stay in the game that it appeared better. Jenn called him a rat, he got into fights with Frank, Shane called him a slur, and Danielle said she hated him. His physical game was solid, and he got comp wins in clutch situations, but he didn’t even know he needed to win when he did.
Y’all don’t give Ian enough credit. He deserved to win. Yes dan was an amazing player but he had bad jury management and everyone knows that’s a big part of the game. U have to lie and screw people over but u can’t screw everyone over. Dan was amazing and made big moves but he screwed too many people over. Ian made good moves AND had good jury management. That’s important. U have to make sure u don’t screw over everyone so u can have enough people on your side at the end and that’s what Ian did. You have to have a good balance of being sneaky but also loyal. Dan just didn’t have that balance and Ian did. Period.
Bitter Bitter Jury. I agree with Janelle, Dan is the Greatest player of all time, and deserved to win this game.He got himself out of every mess he was put into, I don't know how he does it! Season 14 was one of the most exciting seasons to watch , because of Dan.
Bobby S and also thats why in later seasons they started asking the jury who they thought played the best, to cast their vote that way even the producers at big brother probaley dont want to see a butthurt jury
Janelle reading Danielle was amazing especially since production told Jojo they wouldn't let her speak after they found out she was going to put Danielle on blast so Janelle did it for her!
JUST WOW ! if u guys remember way back in week 2 or 3 when there s was still like 14 ppl still in the game they asked DR Will about the coaches twist and then asked him who were his pick to win BB14 and he said if he had to pick someone it would be Ian. Just provin once again how much of a genius he is
people cry bad jury management but I didn't think dan expected everyone to be so butthurt that he outsmarted them, jury should vote based on gameplay not personal feelings
Jury management is a HUGE part of this game. If the jury isn’t happy, you don’t win. Dan might have been the better player but he crossed way too many lines and Ian didn’t double cross people like that; that’s why he won.
Ian won because the jury made a pact to not let a coach win the game. They admitted to it and even some of the said that Dan should’ve gotten their vote.
@@michaelm4411this did not happen. No one made a pact of any kind. Frank campaigned hard for Dan to lose because he felt the way he had gotten to the end was unfair, going to lengths to lie that didn't feel right, and most of the jury agreed. The only person in the jury that did not agree this was a valid reason not to vote for Dan was Britney. Jenn said she didn't care for the moral argument but did not care in general about who she was giving the vote to. In those interviews, it is revealed that Frank wholeheartedly believed Ian to be responsible for ending his game so he voted Ian. And he felt very strongly about the use of religion to curry favor, which resonated strongly with Shane and Joe. Joe said in hindsight, he did not comprehend how complex Dan's game was and that he would have voted him to win - not bitter. Shane was deeply bothered by the religious implications but also *the* most bitter out of the bunch. It was actually only Britney's account on how she (and only she) perceived the situation that birthed this idea: she said she thought no one would have won simply because Dan was already a winner. This was discussed openly by the jurors, but the idea that Dan should lose because of repeat winning was only a complement to the main idea that Dan had resorted to unfair things to get to F2. Britney herself repeated no less than two times that she felt either vote was fair, and said that ultimately her decision was made as a nod to Ian's relationship with her and F2 agreement regardless of the fact that she felt Dan couldn't have won a jury vote in any case. And a great foil to Britney's account is Frank's, who she says was very bitter but who very eloquently presents valid, insightful reasons why he voted for Ian and against Dan. Main producer said Ian did a fantastic job during the finale to sway opinions. Julie said she thought they had made the wrong shoice until she rewatched the season and noticed how earnest Ian had been during his closing statements and how malicious and rude Dan had behaved at times during Ian's interventions. To recap: Frank voted Ian logically. Britney voted Ian logically. Shane voted "not Dan" resentfully. 3 votes that are directly products of the gameplay and not meta discussions on who should win based on prior results. The other voters, Joe voted Ian both because he was convinced that Dan crossed a line and because he didn't want a repeat winner. Jenn did not care and was convinced because Ian looked cute winning against a prior winner. Danielle voted Dan as a screw you, as to "not stoop to his level". Ashley did not participate in the interviews. Even if Dan had not been a prior winner, fact of the matter is he would have lost because the house believed Dan had gone to unnecessary lengths to advance. Frank and Shane were never going to vote Dan - for gameplay reasons. And Joe did not have the advantage of hindsight, he can say he would have ultimately voted for Dan if he had understood, but a) you don't get that foresight when casting your vote as a juror, and b) he can say that because the emotional component of the religion thing had faded so many years later. Neither thing would have been true at the time. Dan loses because Frank campaigns for Ian. And that is jury management, not "instant disqualification because repeat winner". There was no pact, and the likelihood of Dan winning in an alternate universe where he isn't a returning player is still lower than Ian's chances to win assuming Dan plays the same.
Huh? No he didn’t though. Nobody deserves to win, but we can look at the traits we value in a big brother player to determine what should be rewarded with victory. Dan embodied those traits far more that Ian did.
What the... Ian played a good clean game? Ian evicted his coach boogie by deception who was an ally of his, only reason Ian made it to the finals is because he was so weird and underestimate, he isn't physically intimidating and he was young Noone really cared nor considered him a threat Dan survived and made it to the final two against all odds if Ian had been put in the situations Dan was put in doubt Ian would have made it to the final 2
Dan beat janelle who evicted dr. Will in bb all stars Dan beat Mike boogie who won bb all stars and not to mention Dan started with 3 women on his team 2 who wernt that good, one of his players got evicted at the first eviction a second player of his got evicted at the second eviction, he started the game with one ally/ player danielle and she wasn't that good while the other coaches had Shane will and frank the top physical players, Dan was clearly the under Dogg the odds where against Dan and he always managed to survive, while dr. Will in bb all star started of with his best friend and a good player of bb Mike boogie and lost I think if Dan started this game with Memphis in the game Dan would have played an even better game and they both would have managed to make it to the top two unlike dr. Will
People talk about jury management like Dan wasn’t forced to play a cutthroat game due to having a massive target as a returning winner, and that the jury was full of new players who would never allow someone to win twice. Ian’s game was fine, but Dan played the best game of all time in this season. He fought from a massively disadvantaged position and manipulated people to get as far as he possibly could.
A part of the game is to befriend the jury so that they'll vote for you. So yes, Dan was incredible at the game... but the jury hated him.. And it's not like having the jury in the game is a new thing.
No world exists in which Ian should've won over Dan. Seriously, the only thing that screwed Dan was that the Finale and the Final 3 to Final 2 questioning thing changed a LOT from Big Brother 10. If it was done like it was then, he would've had the time to actually talk to the jury and explain himself.
@@jaredbowen3527 the jury acknowledged that Danielle was not as deserving as both ian and Dan, so Dan would win 5-2, with shane and Frank voting danielle
This was such a good season, it's a shame the wrong person won ... Dan should've won this season! Hands down, there is no logical argument against it! He was robbed ...
Dan's game play was brilliant!!! Had he not played the way he did he wouldn't even have been in the position he was. He as a returning player, a previous winner at that, was able to make it to the finale as the biggest target from Day 1. That in itself should have been enough for him to win. The fact that the jury didn't see that and voted with emotion and not on who actually played the better game just proves that. In fact, to take it even further, the game of Big Brother has evolved ever since that season to the point it is now. No one last season (BB15) or so far this season (BB16) even attempted to make enemies or go against the norm. Not only does this make for horrible TV for us fans (let's not forget that without the fans this show would not exist!) but for the players themselves those that were afraid to create some trouble, back stab when it was needed etc etc were ultimately sent home because of it. In the beginning years of Big Brother there were several players who played similar games to Dan and they made the end and were awarded by the jury as the winner of Big Brother. It should have been no different for Dan. Unfortunately, the jury decided on emotion and didn't truly take into consideration the obstacles that Dan had to overcome to get to the finale (reminder, for the 2nd time!). Ian wasn't nearly as big of target as Dan, not even close! In fact, Dan saved Ian and protected him on several occasions. Most notably taking heat from Boogie and Frank while Ian stayed covered by Dan and Dan took the heat for him. As if he wasn't already a big enough target having not only been a previous contestant but a previous winner, he had to protect Ian while putting the heat on himself. He still managed to play his way out of trouble and make it to the end. Final four is another instance where Dan once again protected Ian. Dan could have just as easily sent Ian packing and Ian wouldn't have had a clue and we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now, but he didn't, he chose to remain loyal to Ian and protect him once again. Ian didn't set his own destiny, Ian's destiny was set forth for him by Dan. I could go on, but I feel there is no need to. My point has been made as did the jury's and that is that you can't actually play the game anymore the way it used to be played. Going against the house, trying to survive no matter what it took are a thing of the past. It's sad for the players present and the players future and ultimately sad for us viewers. Hopefully, something happens in the coming seasons and this type of game can be seen again and respected the way it should be!
sometimes you really need to be careful about what the jury thinks. There has been people in big brother that lost the game because they were so damn clueless that the jury is a huge factor. And he nominated Joe for eviction that was stupid for him to do that.
andell1 so what if the jury thinks he shoulda lost part of there reason was he has already won and they were very bitter. even janelle says that dan played the best
this jury hates lies and disrespect when it’s dan but when ian is talking over dan and mocking him even while julie is talking they just don’t care? have some consistency and just vote for the deserving winner people, nobody cares if ian needs the money more 🤦♂️
@@HuntressLIVE he didn’t take into consideration that the jury made a pact to never vote for a returning player. It was literally impossible for Dan to win.
He lost because Ian was a comp endgame beast. Shane was always a bigger target than him, and that combined with Ian's comp wins ruined Dan's HOH. This, with Ian helping shane at the final 5 to win the veto kept them both safe, and the one time Ian was on the block, Dan was forced to cut shane over him(well, Dan wanted to cut shane more than ian anyways)
Guys everyone has different opinions, I think that Ian deserved to win but that doesn’t mean that I think Dan played a bad game, Dan played a amazing. So just stop telling people to shut the f*** up just because they have different opinions.
I said it before, if I am playing the game, I would have taken Dan with me F2 because I know no one will vote for him. First he won before; second he played dirty game. And Dr. Will was right; Ian will win this and he won
Let me say, DAN PLAYED A GREAT GAME, BUT Ian knew the strategy, you can’t be SO aggressive like dan, but Ian also didn’t just float. He was charismatic and managed the jury better than Dan. When Ian did lie no one even knew because it was so well done. Anyway this is not meant to be a big argument just an opinion
They made a pact to not vote for a coach to win. Dan couldn’t have won at all. They jury admitted to it and a couple said that Dan should’ve gotten their votes when they watched the season back
Agreed- if Dan was with Danielle in the finale,he would’ve won bc he had more strategy than her. Both Ian and Dan had excellent strategies in the game, so then it came to who is more likable = Ian. We can compare this to season 10 when Dan won. He won against Memphis who didn’t win many competitions & didn’t have a strategy besides following what Dan said. Memphis was definitely more likable, but he didn’t have a plan like Dan did.
People really don't realize Big Brother Is not a game of Trust and Friendship you should never fully trust someone in this game because when it comes down it it people are not what they seem.
This was a really good season and picking the winner was definitely a toss up because both deserved it. I really wanted Britney to go farther... and I wish we got to see more of Ashley and Wil and of course Jodi!!!
This was the first season of BB I watched. Dan is my favorite player of all time, sure I do love Will but I have the most admiration for Dan and I always will. He inspires me so much to the point that if I were to play BB he would have a large influence in the way I handle myself and play.
Definitely* and that's the game. He might have been very strategic, but you have to keep in mind who you're sending out the door and what their opinion is of you. There are real people that are voting for you.
+Blue Dan deserved to win. This game is about both social game and strategy. But in no way did Ian deserve to win over Dan. Dan put fking work into that game. And it should have been his
In order to win the game is to not piss a lot of people off in the jury house. They will vote for whoever in the FInal 2 to win for various reasons but the people in his alliance were so hurt by Dan's blindsides that it's impossible for Dan to bring himself back to their good graces in time.
Soooooo Happy for Ian! Well done young man. HOWEVER Dan is the man!! Bitterness does NOT look good on the faces of the jury! Y'all got played by the very best!
1:03:13 julie says out loud to Dan, "you are the greatest player to ever play this game" and Ian is still right next to them! Hopefully he didn't hear it and was paying attention to something else. he didn't deserve the win in my opinion, yeah he was a nice guy and the jury didn't hate him, but he was even blown away by some of Dan's moves. In some ways I agree that jury management is a thing that is important but when you play that well and do the things he did to get to final 2 you deserve the win. Ian knew he had it during those questions and just needed to throw him even more under the bus. You could tell that Dan felt rushed, if he had the time to actually talk about why he did what he did things might have ended differently
That's pretty irrelevant, Ian couldn't articulate at the moment why he was more deserving of the win, it doesn't matter that Dan would have been. But looking at the full season, Dan lied about Ian being forced into the quack pack. Ian struck a deal during the HoH competition when only Danielle and Britney remained. They then met on the HoH room and Ian told them he was looking for a new alliance because while he was close with boogie, the game had changed completely with the coaches coming in. He was asked point blank if he would vote against boogie and he said yes. Dan wasn't in the room. Ian created his way in. Ian successfully jumped ship when he needed to, and he can be credited with evicting his old team. Dan was right in that Ian was brought in to a preexisting alliance, but bringing in Ian was not a spontaneous idea, Ian did that. Ian wasn't just "a nice guy", he also just so happened to win every single competition that protected him from being targeted, and it was Dan's own arrogance that prevented Ian's eviction on Danielle's last HoH. Dan tried to sell the idea that he couldn't win against Shane which is ridiculous. Dan made that move because it was the crown jewel to his deception resume and it cemented his F2 finish. It was unnecessary. It was a horrible jury management move. And it underestimated Ian, who had won 3 HoHs (more than Shane) and the crucial veto at the time. Ian smoked Dan in the final HoH comp. Ian built his resume and while the question round was stunted, Dan treated the jury like they were stupid. What he did was see-through, appealing to everyone being a much better player than they were with completely false adulation that he was called out for. It's baffling to me to see this episode and have people act like it wasn't an awful stain in Dan's strategy. The last great move Dan did was getting himself off the block; the game *did not end there*. What followed was very entertaining but _atrocious_ gameplay. Dan wins against Shane or Danielle. Dan deserves to be called the best player ever for winning and maneuvering himself to that top 4. He then fumbled. Ian outplayed him in the last leg of the competition. What people appreciate about Dan is the showmanship and the sheer entertainment value, but the question remained "was it necessary for you to cross these lines" and the answer was *no* . The people who said we should have won simply ignore analysis of everything that came _after_ Dan's manipulation of Danielle. If it were any other player, video essays would be made of how disastrous Dan's management of relationships was in the final leg of the competition. The kind act hadn't just expired, it was rotten, and he continued to play as if people couldn't tell. Dan's worst strategic misplay was a complete failure to read the room. People *cared* that he swore on holy things and he played it off with the same BB10 confession joke. That's not bad in a moral sense that would appeal to the jury being bitter, it's just bad strategy.
In the end, this is Big Brother. Don't be mad at the person who lied to you, be mad at yourself because you fell for it. In all honesty I'm actually very happy Ian won, but I really respect the way Dan played the game. All in all, you just have to remember how the jury was feeling because they obviously weren't thinking about Dans game-play, but how he stabbed them in the back and lost half a million dollars.
I figured out the best out come of this season, so ian gets the money cause he is the person that needs it and dan gets that title of the first person to ever win big brother twice cause he really earned it. There u go a perfect season, I just wish this jury would have voted for the person who played the best game aka Dan :)
Dan clearly should've won this season. Sure he didn't win as many HoHs as Ian's but come on, the reason half of them are jurors is because of Dan. The guy sent you all home so give him the props he deserved.
In a way, the 3 best players this season won. -Ian: wins the grand prize. -Dan: wins second place, to this day has never been evicted and is recognized as the best player ever. -Frank: wins America’s fav houseguest.
I felt so bad for Dan when the as Julie was pulling out each vote and the jury was cheering because they were for Ian like one Dan was robbed and dang how bitter can you be like
Oh yeah duh. i just love Dan so much and think he deserved first place in this season also after everything he pulled off. JenCity using the Veto on him...omg....saved his ASS! I just LOVE how he plays this game completely with his mind and doesn't really care about the comps. That's hard to do. I Iike Ian and everything...just still think Dan deserved the win. But good for Ian!
Tricia Poikonen he definately deserved to win again yea dan played that game that season better than anybody there and mike boogie is supposed to be a good player, yet he went out kinda early i really think dan is the best player in this show so far
@@bluelight8859 I disagree. You know she has Shane's vote, Frank's vote, Joe's vote and Jenn's vote, possibly more. They both would have won against Dan imo
After I watched that whole season I think Dan played the best game. He came up with that plan to get himself out of the whole after confinement and he is a dirty player but a great player
Ian: never betrayed Danielle
Dan: always betrayed Danielle
Dani: I dOnT wHo I cAn TrUsT
@@Destinyirus278 But hot.
Dan was such a good player
Dan was ruthless and that made the show so much more entertaining than this season 22!
By a vote of 5-3 Ian you’re evicted from the big brother house
Da’Vonne Kevin and David are in shock
Nicole is such a phony
And Dani still voted for Dan
The Ian vs. Dan jury speech segment was one of the most exciting battles for jury votes ever on Big Brother. You could tell they were both FIGHTING for it and they both did well at talking about why they should win and highlighting their moves. You would think Dan would easily dominate Ian in this segment but he wasn't intimidated and held his own. And it was cheeky of him to play up how disbelieving he was of Dan swearing on his grandfather's necklace that he would take Ian to final two.
Yeah. And Dan could have caught him off guard by interjecting the first time, but Ian flipped it to interject back which idk if everyone would have done.
Dan milked Danielle to death
XD haha thats a good way of looking at it
A lot of respect for Ian for just telling Dan like it is. He wasn’t afraid of Dan. Danielle.... she would have self evicted if Dan told her it was best for her game.
Yeah. Dan has to take one of you at the end of the day so you might as well take your chances.
At 1:03:13 Julie whispers to Dan. "You are the greatest player to ever play this game."
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And he still is. I want to see Dan, Vanessa, and Derrick in the same season. That would be Jesus.
+Jim Jones and then there is Victor...
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The fact that Dan stayed back so Ian could walk out and have his confetti moment by hisself 😭
I think He was Just shock that He dindt win
i’d say it’s more so that he already won and knew how it worked, wanted ian to have his moment
Who’s here after seeing Ian get evicted? 😭😭 we lost a legend but this video will always remind us of his true legacy
Ugh I have to catch up on it and I was rooting for him >:(
Meeee Ian’s gameplay in this season is outstanding
Nicole messed up the 5-3 vote
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You can tell how much Ian really won over the jury over the course of the questions and speeches. I think he probably would have won anyway, but just look at their demeanor over that entire part. After Ian's speech look at how proud they are. Joe, Frank, and Shane especially look so impressed like they weren't expecting him to own his game so hard. I don't think any of them had any strong feelings towards Ian before that.
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I lowkey think Ian deserved to win. He gambled that lying on your wife and god and your grandfathers cross, contrasted against his optimism and genuinely respect for others would net him the game. And he was right. The jury was pissed at IAN so the only way to win was to bring someone that the Jury was more pissed at
It's true
How else would he have been able to convince frank and Jenn to use the veto on him? If he didn’t host Dan’s funeral and promise to frank that he would go to the end with him, then jenn never uses the veto and he gets evicted
im getting so many different shit about dan's oath. did he really swear to the bible that he will take frank to the final two? or that he is only telling the truth? because i've rewatched it and it seems like he only swore to the bible that he was telling the truth not the alliance. is there any live feed broadcast? dan also said on his reddit ama that the only reason he swore to the bible was to tell the truth.
@@Whippee He swore on the bible that he was telling the truth.Nothing else lol.
I’m still fully convinced Ian was trying to throw that competition, I think Dan convinced him but that comp is such a crapshoot he was accidentally getting the right answers. Watch that comp and look at his reactions when he hears the answers. And if he did, Dan was taking Danielle %1000
Did anyone actually watch the show before crucifying Dan when he swears on the bible? Over and over again, people think he swore on the bible about going to the end with Frank but he only swore that the information he was telling him was true. The only time in the two seasons Dan played where he broke his word when he swore on his wife or the bible was when he backstabbed Ollie, Ollie backstabbed Dan at the beginning of season 10 so it was just revenge. This season was amazing only because we were lucky enough to see how an individual can COMPLETELY manipulate a house full of people flawlessly. In the end the sore losers didn't want to give him the money because he had already won and frankly I think they would have given Joe the win if Dan took him to the end. That's how bad this jury was.
I think in any other season, ians win is more justified
Part of the game is jury management. Some of Dan's moves weren't absolutely necessary. You don't win just by getting to F2. It ultimately comes down to votes. Expecting 100% objectivity from Jurors is a huge, huge mistake.
Look at how Derrick won, he groomed every jury member to a tee and read Cody like a BOOK. Only Donny caught on to Derrick, and even he ended up being salty. Didn't matter tho. Derrick had Dan's same ability to align his and other's motives and benefits. He played Frankie and Caleb like fiddles and still ended up getting their votes.
ye he also said this on his reddit AmA
u dont have to call the juries, sore losers. it's a part of the game, they have to vote from the finalists' strategic moves or personal or a mix of both. if u are in the jury's position, you would probably do the same.
@@timocruz510 dan couldn't play like that because he had a huge target on his back coming in and had to get his hands dirty. He managed season 10 jury fine and got a perfect win.
I love Ian. He is cute and funny. And love his weirdness. He is adorable. He deserved to win. My guy. 💗💗💗 Good speech, by the way. Right on!
I loved Ian's speech. it's a contender for one of the best speeches in Big Brother history!
I'm actually glad that Ian won. While Dan played an incredible game, he made way too many enemies, which was his demise. Either way I was glad that they were in the final 2 and that one of them was going to win.
Ian did amazing and deserved to win, but not sitting next to Dan. Dan was a huge target the whole game, has already won, was showing himself to be ruthless and untrustworthy but somehow convinced the right people to vote his way or to believe things that were untrue (eg: that he would never work with Danielle). He was a master manipulator and had one of the most impressive social/strategic games I've seen in any reality tv show. Plus his responses to the questions and final speech were great. He was a victim of a bad jury imo. The fact he got 1 vote is ridiculous.
@@johnuhjacobs2438they were never gonna vote for a former winner anyways unless it was mike boogie next to him
I think Dan mostly played to get to the end and take the chance that there might not be a bitter jury. He already won this game, 2nd place is just the cherry on top.
@@jpogs6976that was all he could do. He had to get his hands dirty to get this far in the game.
While I agree that Dan played a better overall game, Ian deserved his win. People seem to forget that this game is social and jury management is HUGE. Yes this jury is bitter, but their feelings are valid af: Dan did them DIRTY, and his flaw was that he crossed the line too many times and didn't know how to redraw it. He made great game moves, but his social game destroyed him. So don't say that Ian didn't deserve to win.
I think Dan deserved to win, but Ian didn't deserve to lose. Dan was better strategic and thats what I think the game is about
@@SBAssociation but that's not ALL the game is about.
@@nickwashington100 true but it what makes the best player, anyone can win these comps some are more skill based but let's be real theres 3 main focus of the game, Social, Strategic, Competition. Strategic is what makes the best. Dan, Will, Vanessa, Danielle.
@@nickwashington100 Ian played better socially and physically, and both were very good strategists. Ian socially manipulated his entire team and took big targets out of the game. He front stabbed instead of backstabbed which although both are great moves, front stabbing helps you more socially then back stabbing unless you can justify it, and dan never backed up anything while Ian did
@@jacksonia7724Ian didn’t have a clue what was going on the entire game, his strategy was horrible. Ian’s social game was also pretty terrible, it was just the fact that Dan was a former winner and had to play dirty to stay in the game that it appeared better. Jenn called him a rat, he got into fights with Frank, Shane called him a slur, and Danielle said she hated him. His physical game was solid, and he got comp wins in clutch situations, but he didn’t even know he needed to win when he did.
I remember thinking bb14 would be boring. but then it became one of my all time favorite and most memorable seasons. dan is a legend.
People don’t realize that jury management and control is also a big part of the game. Dan was great but how he went about things was his downfall.
EXACTLY
Jury management is fake.
It's a word made by people to excuse the sore losers
@@ThuggyMacho not at all, like it or not Jury management is a key part of the game
@@loganhinton29 wrong, you can't manage a jury if you're not in jury. It's fake.
Hopefully Danielle watched this season again just to see how she got played left and right.
Y’all don’t give Ian enough credit. He deserved to win. Yes dan was an amazing player but he had bad jury management and everyone knows that’s a big part of the game. U have to lie and screw people over but u can’t screw everyone over. Dan was amazing and made big moves but he screwed too many people over. Ian made good moves AND had good jury management. That’s important. U have to make sure u don’t screw over everyone so u can have enough people on your side at the end and that’s what Ian did. You have to have a good balance of being sneaky but also loyal. Dan just didn’t have that balance and Ian did. Period.
shut the fuck up. You're a moron
Up2Films obviously you’re the moron. Get your mad ass on tf. I can state my opinion like everyone else.
@@LeeLee12345 you're a fucking imbecile
@JP Filmmzz how tf does that make Ian "a boss" lmaoooooo
Up2Films im not a imbecile just because i dont agree with you. Everyone has different opinions so shut the fuck up. Lame ass.
Bitter Bitter Jury. I agree with Janelle, Dan is the Greatest player of all time, and deserved to win this game.He got himself out of every mess he was put into, I don't know how he does it! Season 14 was one of the most exciting seasons to watch , because of Dan.
how is he better than will. bitter or just plain stupid jury. dan played great but he did it playing against a bunch of fucking idiots.
Janelle was careful to say he was *one* of the best, because she played with the GOAT.
agreed he deserved to win
Bobby S its a game though, they all know dan played the best
Bobby S and also thats why in later seasons they started asking the jury who they thought played the best, to cast their vote that way
even the producers at big brother probaley dont want to see a butthurt jury
The best thing Dan did all season was allowing Ian to walk out to the confetti and not interrupting him. That’s pretty classy ngl
Ian deserved to win!
Ian: If you want to be the best, you've got to beat the best
...and Frank got AFP, lol ..oh God how I hated America on this day..
dan won but he was top 2
darkf8
In all fairness, Frank did play the best physical game that year by far.
Right lmfaoo should’ve been britney
Janelle reading Danielle was amazing especially since production told Jojo they wouldn't let her speak after they found out she was going to put Danielle on blast so Janelle did it for her!
Dan lying through his TEETH to Danielle this entire time knowing he’s cutting her at 2
I’m not sure if Ian mentioned but he definitely took his fate into his own hands
JUST WOW ! if u guys remember way back in week 2 or 3 when there s was still like 14 ppl still in the game they asked DR Will about the coaches twist and then asked him who were his pick to win BB14 and he said if he had to pick someone it would be Ian. Just provin once again how much of a genius he is
but dan couldve easily voted ian out
people cry bad jury management but I didn't think dan expected everyone to be so butthurt that he outsmarted them, jury should vote based on gameplay not personal feelings
Jury management is a HUGE part of this game. If the jury isn’t happy, you don’t win. Dan might have been the better player but he crossed way too many lines and Ian didn’t double cross people like that; that’s why he won.
EXACTLY
Ian won because the jury made a pact to not let a coach win the game. They admitted to it and even some of the said that Dan should’ve gotten their vote.
Well when you have already won and entered as a coach you have to do that.
Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t realize you could jury manage your way into not being an returning player
@@michaelm4411this did not happen. No one made a pact of any kind. Frank campaigned hard for Dan to lose because he felt the way he had gotten to the end was unfair, going to lengths to lie that didn't feel right, and most of the jury agreed. The only person in the jury that did not agree this was a valid reason not to vote for Dan was Britney. Jenn said she didn't care for the moral argument but did not care in general about who she was giving the vote to.
In those interviews, it is revealed that Frank wholeheartedly believed Ian to be responsible for ending his game so he voted Ian. And he felt very strongly about the use of religion to curry favor, which resonated strongly with Shane and Joe. Joe said in hindsight, he did not comprehend how complex Dan's game was and that he would have voted him to win - not bitter. Shane was deeply bothered by the religious implications but also *the* most bitter out of the bunch.
It was actually only Britney's account on how she (and only she) perceived the situation that birthed this idea: she said she thought no one would have won simply because Dan was already a winner. This was discussed openly by the jurors, but the idea that Dan should lose because of repeat winning was only a complement to the main idea that Dan had resorted to unfair things to get to F2. Britney herself repeated no less than two times that she felt either vote was fair, and said that ultimately her decision was made as a nod to Ian's relationship with her and F2 agreement regardless of the fact that she felt Dan couldn't have won a jury vote in any case. And a great foil to Britney's account is Frank's, who she says was very bitter but who very eloquently presents valid, insightful reasons why he voted for Ian and against Dan.
Main producer said Ian did a fantastic job during the finale to sway opinions. Julie said she thought they had made the wrong shoice until she rewatched the season and noticed how earnest Ian had been during his closing statements and how malicious and rude Dan had behaved at times during Ian's interventions.
To recap: Frank voted Ian logically. Britney voted Ian logically. Shane voted "not Dan" resentfully. 3 votes that are directly products of the gameplay and not meta discussions on who should win based on prior results.
The other voters, Joe voted Ian both because he was convinced that Dan crossed a line and because he didn't want a repeat winner. Jenn did not care and was convinced because Ian looked cute winning against a prior winner. Danielle voted Dan as a screw you, as to "not stoop to his level".
Ashley did not participate in the interviews.
Even if Dan had not been a prior winner, fact of the matter is he would have lost because the house believed Dan had gone to unnecessary lengths to advance. Frank and Shane were never going to vote Dan - for gameplay reasons. And Joe did not have the advantage of hindsight, he can say he would have ultimately voted for Dan if he had understood, but a) you don't get that foresight when casting your vote as a juror, and b) he can say that because the emotional component of the religion thing had faded so many years later. Neither thing would have been true at the time.
Dan loses because Frank campaigns for Ian. And that is jury management, not "instant disqualification because repeat winner". There was no pact, and the likelihood of Dan winning in an alternate universe where he isn't a returning player is still lower than Ian's chances to win assuming Dan plays the same.
Danielle's eyes lit up when Shane reached into his back pocket it was hilarious at 56:05
Why the hell would anyone fall for throwing a final HOH???
I would never in my life have thrown any part of that competition.
It’s called Dan’s mist.
Y’all might not agree with Ian winning, but Ian deserved it hands down
Huh? No he didn’t though. Nobody deserves to win, but we can look at the traits we value in a big brother player to determine what should be rewarded with victory. Dan embodied those traits far more that Ian did.
I like Ian. He is so smart and adorable. Boogies comments about Ian is very true.
Dan's surprised Pikachu face when the argument he planned starts. :O Lmao.
ksksksks
Dan deserved to win. Ian played a nice game. But Dan is just the God of the game. No one has ever played better than dan except Will Kirby.
I was about to say you better not say Will is inferior to Dan.
What the... Ian played a good clean game? Ian evicted his coach boogie by deception who was an ally of his, only reason Ian made it to the finals is because he was so weird and underestimate, he isn't physically intimidating and he was young Noone really cared nor considered him a threat Dan survived and made it to the final two against all odds if Ian had been put in the situations Dan was put in doubt Ian would have made it to the final 2
Dan beat janelle who evicted dr. Will in bb all stars Dan beat Mike boogie who won bb all stars and not to mention Dan started with 3 women on his team 2 who wernt that good, one of his players got evicted at the first eviction a second player of his got evicted at the second eviction, he started the game with one ally/ player danielle and she wasn't that good while the other coaches had Shane will and frank the top physical players, Dan was clearly the under Dogg the odds where against Dan and he always managed to survive, while dr. Will in bb all star started of with his best friend and a good player of bb Mike boogie and lost I think if Dan started this game with Memphis in the game Dan would have played an even better game and they both would have managed to make it to the top two unlike dr. Will
HELLO! Derrick played well!
The Hunger Game Geek But he's not entertaining. Plus, when e lied to the audience as If we're so dumb that we know noting.
People talk about jury management like Dan wasn’t forced to play a cutthroat game due to having a massive target as a returning winner, and that the jury was full of new players who would never allow someone to win twice. Ian’s game was fine, but Dan played the best game of all time in this season. He fought from a massively disadvantaged position and manipulated people to get as far as he possibly could.
A part of the game is to befriend the jury so that they'll vote for you. So yes, Dan was incredible at the game... but the jury hated him.. And it's not like having the jury in the game is a new thing.
No world exists in which Ian should've won over Dan. Seriously, the only thing that screwed Dan was that the Finale and the Final 3 to Final 2 questioning thing changed a LOT from Big Brother 10. If it was done like it was then, he would've had the time to actually talk to the jury and explain himself.
Dan simply deserved it.
I think they chose Ian because he did play a good game but at the same time, Dan won already. Give someone else a chance!! Lol 😂😂
izzyrealcollins2 nothing could ever top dans death.
they chose ian because they were all butthurt
im surprised brittany didnt choose dan. she sounded like she liked his game
JJ Son Ian was her puppy and Dan did send her home.
How in the world did Frank win America's favorite? I didn't like him at all.
It was classic house against him and America fell for him Ig
Jodi should have won AFP.
Dan is on fire! But nobody likes giving someone 500k twice
dan deserved to win, he actually played it
lol this was THE most bitter jury the show has ever seen
*COUGH COUGH* Season 4 *COUGH COUGH*
if Dan and Danielle was in final 2 Who Would Win
@@allison3852 eh... probabbly danielle
@@jaredbowen3527 the jury acknowledged that Danielle was not as deserving as both ian and Dan, so Dan would win 5-2, with shane and Frank voting danielle
@@taruneisen990 yeah the bitter ones lol
DAAAAAN deserved to win ,hands down!!!!
Slam
To all of you Dan fans, if Dan was the last member of jury who would have he voted
Merci!
+mrbow
who knows who he wouldve voted for.
@@mrbow50001 he would vote for Danielle
This Jury clearly don’t understand how Big Brother is played 🤦🏽♂️
42:56 "Satan, I-I mean, Dan..."
LOL. Shane.
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This was such a good season, it's a shame the wrong person won ... Dan should've won this season! Hands down, there is no logical argument against it! He was robbed ...
Dan's game play was brilliant!!! Had he not played the way he did he wouldn't even have been in the position he was. He as a returning player, a previous winner at that, was able to make it to the finale as the biggest target from Day 1. That in itself should have been enough for him to win. The fact that the jury didn't see that and voted with emotion and not on who actually played the better game just proves that. In fact, to take it even further, the game of Big Brother has evolved ever since that season to the point it is now. No one last season (BB15) or so far this season (BB16) even attempted to make enemies or go against the norm. Not only does this make for horrible TV for us fans (let's not forget that without the fans this show would not exist!) but for the players themselves those that were afraid to create some trouble, back stab when it was needed etc etc were ultimately sent home because of it. In the beginning years of Big Brother there were several players who played similar games to Dan and they made the end and were awarded by the jury as the winner of Big Brother. It should have been no different for Dan. Unfortunately, the jury decided on emotion and didn't truly take into consideration the obstacles that Dan had to overcome to get to the finale (reminder, for the 2nd time!). Ian wasn't nearly as big of target as Dan, not even close! In fact, Dan saved Ian and protected him on several occasions. Most notably taking heat from Boogie and Frank while Ian stayed covered by Dan and Dan took the heat for him. As if he wasn't already a big enough target having not only been a previous contestant but a previous winner, he had to protect Ian while putting the heat on himself. He still managed to play his way out of trouble and make it to the end. Final four is another instance where Dan once again protected Ian. Dan could have just as easily sent Ian packing and Ian wouldn't have had a clue and we wouldn't even be having this conversation right now, but he didn't, he chose to remain loyal to Ian and protect him once again. Ian didn't set his own destiny, Ian's destiny was set forth for him by Dan. I could go on, but I feel there is no need to. My point has been made as did the jury's and that is that you can't actually play the game anymore the way it used to be played. Going against the house, trying to survive no matter what it took are a thing of the past. It's sad for the players present and the players future and ultimately sad for us viewers. Hopefully, something happens in the coming seasons and this type of game can be seen again and respected the way it should be!
sometimes you really need to be careful about what the jury thinks. There has been people in big brother that lost the game because they were so damn clueless that the jury is a huge factor. And he nominated Joe for eviction that was stupid for him to do that.
andell1 so what if the jury thinks he shoulda lost part of there reason was he has already won and they were very bitter. even janelle says that dan played the best
agreed soooooo much haha
Dan couldve sent that dude home (ian) and that would have been the end of these debates
Dan deserved to win and thats it.
+Alcinious
The jury was fking butthurt XD haha
this jury hates lies and disrespect when it’s dan but when ian is talking over dan and mocking him even while julie is talking they just don’t care? have some consistency and just vote for the deserving winner people, nobody cares if ian needs the money more 🤦♂️
Dan got ROBBED! He lost because of a bitter jury!
Ian deserved it, they both played amazing games but Dan had very poor jury management
Dan didn’t take the jury into consideration, he played a great game but that was the biggest mistake he made.
@@HuntressLIVE exactly, ian deserved his win, but Dan will always be the greatest player of all time In my opinion
@@HuntressLIVE he didn’t take into consideration that the jury made a pact to never vote for a returning player. It was literally impossible for Dan to win.
He lost because Ian was a comp endgame beast. Shane was always a bigger target than him, and that combined with Ian's comp wins ruined Dan's HOH. This, with Ian helping shane at the final 5 to win the veto kept them both safe, and the one time Ian was on the block, Dan was forced to cut shane over him(well, Dan wanted to cut shane more than ian anyways)
Besides all of Danielle's lies... love Janelle!! Hated Danielle so much with her whining and threats.
Danielle was the biggest baby I've ever seen.
Tammy Sigmon do you remember when she threatened Ian by saying her brother would beat him up??
Honestly I dont respect her game either as if it cane to her and Shane, Shane wins hands down any day. She's easily a floater by comparison
I liked Ian but I don't think it was fair to not vote for Dan Because he had already won!
Shane sooooo thought that he was gonna win America's Favorite Player. lol His awkward handshake to Frank was so cringe.
dan is literally the definition of a legend with all the shit he swore on omg 🤣🤣🤣
Guys everyone has different opinions, I think that Ian deserved to win but that doesn’t mean that I think Dan played a bad game, Dan played a amazing. So just stop telling people to shut the f*** up just because they have different opinions.
man I am so freaking happy that Ian won BB14 big time he deserved it big time in my eyes
your eyes must be very very small then
why do you say that for?
dan deserved it way more than ian ever did
the only reason why he won was quack pack, competetion wins and a stupid jury
yea well I think that he won fairly and for the Jury I don't think they would have voted for Ian to win if they didn't want him to really win it
Dan's speech was kinda rough honestly, it just seemed frantic and full of excuses
dans hair, looks like he has lil devil horns lol
shapju Shabe at 42:50 called Dan "Satan" by accident lmfao
Ian was good but no way should he have won over Dan!
agreed
Ian deserved it tbh
I said it before, if I am playing the game, I would have taken Dan with me F2 because I know no one will vote for him. First he won before; second he played dirty game. And Dr. Will was right; Ian will win this and he won
Let me say, DAN PLAYED A GREAT GAME, BUT Ian knew the strategy, you can’t be SO aggressive like dan, but Ian also didn’t just float. He was charismatic and managed the jury better than Dan. When Ian did lie no one even knew because it was so well done. Anyway this is not meant to be a big argument just an opinion
They made a pact to not vote for a coach to win. Dan couldn’t have won at all. They jury admitted to it and a couple said that Dan should’ve gotten their votes when they watched the season back
Agreed- if Dan was with Danielle in the finale,he would’ve won bc he had more strategy than her. Both Ian and Dan had excellent strategies in the game, so then it came to who is more likable = Ian. We can compare this to season 10 when Dan won. He won against Memphis who didn’t win many competitions & didn’t have a strategy besides following what Dan said. Memphis was definitely more likable, but he didn’t have a plan like Dan did.
Dr. Will was right.. Ian DID win. Wow
couldve been wrong though. dan had a chance of voting him out
I love Nicole, but this seasons was nicole and Paul foreshadow
you look like rory gilmore
I mean not really, Ian kinda deserved to win
best bb season ever
People really don't realize Big Brother Is not a game of Trust and Friendship you should never fully trust someone in this game because when it comes down it it people are not what they seem.
exactly its a game of backstabbing and deciever and thats what makes it entertaining haha
This was a really good season and picking the winner was definitely a toss up because both deserved it. I really wanted Britney to go farther... and I wish we got to see more of Ashley and Wil and of course Jodi!!!
This was the first season of BB I watched. Dan is my favorite player of all time, sure I do love Will but I have the most admiration for Dan and I always will. He inspires me so much to the point that if I were to play BB he would have a large influence in the way I handle myself and play.
Same
Ian didn't deserve it in my opinion. Dan was defiantly one of the best in bb history without a doubt, it's a shame I didn't win his 2nd.
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Definitely* and that's the game. He might have been very strategic, but you have to keep in mind who you're sending out the door and what their opinion is of you. There are real people that are voting for you.
+Blue
Dan deserved to win. This game is about both social game and strategy.
But in no way did Ian deserve to win over Dan. Dan put fking work into that game. And it should have been his
Ian absolutely torched Dan.. I strongly disagree
Ian deserved it tbh Dan and Ian played great games but Dan had very poor jury management
A lot of people don't think this season was good but compared to last few seasons (BB 15, BB 16, BB17) it was reallyyyyyyy good!
Even watching it now still burns when I hear Ian's name as the winner instead of Dan
In order to win the game is to not piss a lot of people off in the jury house. They will vote for whoever in the FInal 2 to win for various reasons but the people in his alliance were so hurt by Dan's blindsides that it's impossible for Dan to bring himself back to their good graces in time.
Everytime I watch this I feel so bad for Danielle. This would haunt me forever if I blew my chance at winning $500,000 as bad as she did
Dan is good , but he lied to everyone in jury and he expects them to vote for him
Soooooo Happy for Ian! Well done young man. HOWEVER Dan is the man!! Bitterness does NOT look good on the faces of the jury! Y'all got played by the very best!
To this day I still think Ian should’ve won over Dan.
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yes we can see on all stars season 22 how good is ian at game
Ian and Dan where the best but Ian deserved to win because he was the underdog.
1:03:13 julie says out loud to Dan, "you are the greatest player to ever play this game" and Ian is still right next to them! Hopefully he didn't hear it and was paying attention to something else. he didn't deserve the win in my opinion, yeah he was a nice guy and the jury didn't hate him, but he was even blown away by some of Dan's moves. In some ways I agree that jury management is a thing that is important but when you play that well and do the things he did to get to final 2 you deserve the win. Ian knew he had it during those questions and just needed to throw him even more under the bus. You could tell that Dan felt rushed, if he had the time to actually talk about why he did what he did things might have ended differently
That's pretty irrelevant, Ian couldn't articulate at the moment why he was more deserving of the win, it doesn't matter that Dan would have been. But looking at the full season, Dan lied about Ian being forced into the quack pack. Ian struck a deal during the HoH competition when only Danielle and Britney remained. They then met on the HoH room and Ian told them he was looking for a new alliance because while he was close with boogie, the game had changed completely with the coaches coming in. He was asked point blank if he would vote against boogie and he said yes. Dan wasn't in the room. Ian created his way in. Ian successfully jumped ship when he needed to, and he can be credited with evicting his old team. Dan was right in that Ian was brought in to a preexisting alliance, but bringing in Ian was not a spontaneous idea, Ian did that.
Ian wasn't just "a nice guy", he also just so happened to win every single competition that protected him from being targeted, and it was Dan's own arrogance that prevented Ian's eviction on Danielle's last HoH.
Dan tried to sell the idea that he couldn't win against Shane which is ridiculous. Dan made that move because it was the crown jewel to his deception resume and it cemented his F2 finish. It was unnecessary. It was a horrible jury management move. And it underestimated Ian, who had won 3 HoHs (more than Shane) and the crucial veto at the time. Ian smoked Dan in the final HoH comp. Ian built his resume and while the question round was stunted, Dan treated the jury like they were stupid. What he did was see-through, appealing to everyone being a much better player than they were with completely false adulation that he was called out for. It's baffling to me to see this episode and have people act like it wasn't an awful stain in Dan's strategy. The last great move Dan did was getting himself off the block; the game *did not end there*. What followed was very entertaining but _atrocious_ gameplay. Dan wins against Shane or Danielle.
Dan deserves to be called the best player ever for winning and maneuvering himself to that top 4. He then fumbled. Ian outplayed him in the last leg of the competition. What people appreciate about Dan is the showmanship and the sheer entertainment value, but the question remained "was it necessary for you to cross these lines" and the answer was *no* . The people who said we should have won simply ignore analysis of everything that came _after_ Dan's manipulation of Danielle. If it were any other player, video essays would be made of how disastrous Dan's management of relationships was in the final leg of the competition. The kind act hadn't just expired, it was rotten, and he continued to play as if people couldn't tell. Dan's worst strategic misplay was a complete failure to read the room. People *cared* that he swore on holy things and he played it off with the same BB10 confession joke. That's not bad in a moral sense that would appeal to the jury being bitter, it's just bad strategy.
Frank's ego could fill a hot air balloon..... I am now in tears for what just happened to Ian in bb22 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
In the end, this is Big Brother. Don't be mad at the person who lied to you, be mad at yourself because you fell for it. In all honesty I'm actually very happy Ian won, but I really respect the way Dan played the game. All in all, you just have to remember how the jury was feeling because they obviously weren't thinking about Dans game-play, but how he stabbed them in the back and lost half a million dollars.
I figured out the best out come of this season, so ian gets the money cause he is the person that needs it and dan gets that title of the first person to ever win big brother twice cause he really earned it. There u go a perfect season, I just wish this jury would have voted for the person who played the best game aka Dan :)
54:10
Janelle-"If Dan doesn't win this game its an absolute travesty."
The Jury- 0_0 "oops"
Dan clearly should've won this season. Sure he didn't win as many HoHs as Ian's but come on, the reason half of them are jurors is because of Dan. The guy sent you all home so give him the props he deserved.
When I first watch this I didnt want Dan to win but now really looking at it I really think he was the best in the game❤love BBFL
this is SO frustrating!!!!! Dan should have won! HE IS KING!!!! can't believe these bitter jury members...
I still can't believe Ian beat Dan when Dan ran the season
blame the butthurt jury
Dan may have played a better game but I am still happy Ian won.
Julie knows who deserved to win. Watch at 1:03:11...Julie: "You are the greatest player to ever play this game." Dan was robbed and Julie knows it.
When Ian gets mad he stands on his tippy toes
Dan should’ve won this season and I’ll die on that hill.
The most bitter jury I’ve ever seen.
Like Janelle said, *“It would be a travesty if Dan lost this game”*
I just now thought of this but if Danielle beats Ian in part 2 of the final HOH, Dan wins the game against Danielle in the final 2
In a way, the 3 best players this season won.
-Ian: wins the grand prize.
-Dan: wins second place, to this day has never been evicted and is recognized as the best player ever.
-Frank: wins America’s fav houseguest.
Danielle: wins Queen of dumbasses 😂😂
Ian slayed Dan with his speech and answers!
Agreed. Problem was the guys were still salty, and so the voting became really personal, instead of just based on the game.
I felt so bad for Dan when the as Julie was pulling out each vote and the jury was cheering because they were for Ian like one Dan was robbed and dang how bitter can you be like
54:13 The Jury seething at Janelle for calling them out
I THINK Dan deserved the win because he literally fooled so many people
Who whispered Jodi? 😂
57:48 I still don’t forget this.
I think if Dan would have kept Danielle, the jury would have voted for Dan to win
it was up to Ian
Oh yeah duh. i just love Dan so much and think he deserved first place in this season also after everything he pulled off. JenCity using the Veto on him...omg....saved his ASS! I just LOVE how he plays this game completely with his mind and doesn't really care about the comps. That's hard to do. I Iike Ian and everything...just still think Dan deserved the win. But good for Ian!
Tricia Poikonen he definately deserved to win again
yea dan played that game that season better than anybody there
and mike boogie is supposed to be a good player, yet he went out kinda early
i really think dan is the best player in this show so far
@@bluelight8859 I disagree. You know she has Shane's vote, Frank's vote, Joe's vote and Jenn's vote, possibly more. They both would have won against Dan imo
After I watched that whole season I think Dan played the best game. He came up with that plan to get himself out of the whole after confinement and he is a dirty player but a great player