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For Pat the day he met Ian was one of the most important days of his life. For Ian it was a Thursday.
If Ian is M. Bison who does that make Pat? Or Frank for that hypothetical question?
and what a bad thursday it was.....
i kid i kid
@LIQUID FX ha! nah, my take-away is that Ian is simply thoughtful in his responses. If he's grumpy or neutral it's because someone is asking him to waste time thinking about something he doesn't think merits the effort.
Lmfcao
I saw “Cats” in Reno in 1999, towards the end of its run. I had just turned eleven. About halfway through “Memory”, my little brother got my attention, and then pointed over his shoulder. There was a woman sitting in the row behind us, just bawling her eyes out uncontrollably. We were covering our mouths, smacking our knees, and generally giving all that we had to contain our laughter for the rest of the song. Looking back, I think maybe she’d had a bit too much to drink. XD
“Where’s Waldo?” is still a thing here in Korea, but he’s called “Wally.” Still shows up on promo items and stuff.
Wally’s actually the character’s real name, he’s from the UK. Waldo is just what they call him in the North American editions. Apparently, the publisher who had the license for our version didn’t think that Wally would resonate with us (perhaps it’s a more common name here?). He has various other names around the world.
Pat's reaction to Vocaloid was the best I've seen since Miku went on Letterman.
They played the Cats commercial over and over again while I was trying to watch American Gladiators and WWF Superstars back in the day. To this day I still say 'Cats!' when I walk into a room where my cats are, that damn commercial scarred me for life.
Ian, it's all right to show some enthusiasm about how Pat and you hit it off. 🧐🙋👾
If I can see Ian on my screen I consider him to be in an enthusiastic state
Bro he literally sat back and laughed a bit. What more do you want sherlock
@@thepuzzledsage
Okay dude. Ian is known for being so bubbly, I figured I would highlight. 👾👬🍻
@@WaysideWade Take your emojis and go
@@thepuzzledsage Ha, get off of my thread kid!
NES games will be cheap in 10-15 years as there is no nostalgia left
So No the prices won’t drop in a reasonable amount of time.
I can't see interest dropping in the same way younger generations don't care about Atari games. Nintendo still keeps those franchises alive and constantly cashes in on nostalgia for NES games. Just look at Super Mario Bros 35. Plus, 8 and 16-bit games will hold up as long as indie devs keep using that "retro" aesthetic, which may well continue for decades. People don't often make Steam games that look like Pitfall.
The cynic in me says prices will keep rising, if anything, as more sellers will try to pass off common game carts as "rare", more people become collectors, and available stock goes down because the carts are finite and get damaged or go missing or get used as a donor for a repro or just plum get hoarded.
@@swagar most people who bought NES classics were aged 25+ at the time of release. The game n watch did not sell out and can be bought anywhere. There are a lot of NES games in closets and they will be given away by those who inherit them. Sad but true
10:15
Semi-obscure a-ha reference made me happy.
“My name is Jim and I want to talk about CDi”
...Basically sums me up
Hey Jim
Favorite game on least favorite console was Goldeneye on N64 and favorite system NES and least favorite game was Jaws. I never had the patience for it 😂
IAN: "And we did it"
i knew it.
Whoa! Thanks for including my question and answering it guys!
Ahh fish on Fridays ... Us east coasters get it pat
I weirdly enjoy playing Where’s Waldo on NES once in a blue moon
LOL I literally have like 30 wiimotes in a drawer in my basement. Hell, sounds like I need to unload them.
Thanks for listening to my question, gentlemen!
If the music doesn't cut it, then the game doesn't either.
I'm from Toronto and those Phantom ads were fucking ingrained into all our brains, but I didn't realise they went even that far past the city. On behalf of everyone from that area code, sorry about that.
I liked the question about the personal NWC cart choices....Made me think of Brossentia's Gauntlet series that has two players competing to complete save-state challenges from 10 games. Most challenges completed in an hour wins. It can be quite entertaining and also gets your eyeballs on a large variety of games in short time.
Great video guys 👍
My brother bought metroid, Mario 2, and Zelda in the early 2000's from a classmate for 2 dollars each. That's never going to happen again. Not in the foreseeable future. Maybe in 75 or 100 years.
I said they can't be that more expensive. Looked up on Ebay and 20-30$!?🤯 way over priced.
@@gjergjaurelius9798 That's just the price these days. They're common games, but most people keep them once they have them. Plus they're still pretty sought after. The snes games are worse. Super metroid and Zelda anyway.
Damn that silver surfer game, favorite leisure suit larry.
My favorite "musical" is _Never Forget_ which is a jukebox musical not unlike Mamma Mia but with songs by the boy band *Take That.* I know there is another musical with their music called _The Band_ but sadly was never released on DVD or Blu-Ray :(
Not a big musical fan but I loved "Rent"
Pat, I’m still waiting on the FMM you promised me by the end of February!.... clock is ticking.. AND ME FRANK!
Thanks for the question about musicals.
For me Pat and Ian that I am a lot better games in my old age than I was a kid. At my brother's house I was playing Double Dragon 3 on NES on his LCDTV with all of the input lag included and I was playing out of my mind and I got pretty far too ( forget which stage I made it to). Also was playing TMNT2 on NES emulated on the OG Xbox and I also was playing out of my mind with the duke Xbox controller and me and my cousin ended up beating the game. It was awesome. I think i have completed more NES games in my adult years than my younger years.
Ian saying his least favorite console is N64 is probably the least surprising thing i have ever heard. He is exactly the type of guy I'd expect to told that opinion.
At least toilet kids isn't a bait and switch. It's an honest title. I can't verify that personally, but it's accurate according to Ian's opinion.
I've seen hairspray cats and avenue q a few years back being 22 then I'm sure you can guess my favorite
I know dragon warrior ii-Iv have always been high. I remember looking in a game informer or something and seeing the cost of Iv was about $45 way back when.
I won't lie - I love that Rob brings Where's Waldo to the conventions with him to play with everyone. It's a lark to crowd around the TV and yell at the screen trying to find that no-good transient, only to inevitably die on the Subway. Every. Time. --Daniel
I used to live on the corner of Third Street and Orange Avenue in Long Beach, California.
Pat is the most "normal" video game youtuber . You could totally smoke a joint with him .
19:50 If the ergonomics are bad (I have not tried the Game & Watch mentioned) it can wreck your gaming skills. I tried playing Contra & Super C unlockables on Contra 4 on a DS Lite and could barely beat the games, but I play them a day later on a normal NES and beat them without any codes.
Not a big fan of the Sega Saturn but Xmen vs Street Fighter was cool. Same with the Atari 2600 but Keystone Kapers was ok.
With Series X being fully backwards compatible it's kinda crazy how much some 360 games still cost
Damn, Ian didn't say China Warrior was his worst game on the TG16
I love Hairspray! The 2007 movie is great too! Good choice Ian.
That is great. If I had to pick a favorite bad game on my favorite console, nes, it would be where’s Waldo. I actually enjoy the game. Then again, I had it as a kid, so there is some nostalgia there.
Wheres Frank?
For me, the worst game on my favorite system is Battletoads for NES. Great idea, great graphics, but the game wasn't just hard, it felt like the designers were fucking with you. It wasn't just hard, it was unfair. Juxtapose that with Ninja Gaiden 2 which was super hard but also super fun and it made you want to get better to beat it.
The best game on the least favorite system is easy. Road Rash on the overhyped 3DO. I was an early adopter of that system, but man, I was always buying games and returning them, because so many of them were just shitty games with FMV tacked on. But Road rash was just incredible on 3DO. Looked and played great, very addictive gameplay, and that soundtrack was just amazing. Loved that game. It's the only reason I didn't throw my 3DO in the garbage.
I pretty much hate musicals, but Grease is up there as a best movie of all time for me.
I think it true I am from Thailand and the nes cartridge prices is cheaper enough for me to buy
Why don't you upload the whole podcast on video? I would watch them all.
OMG an NES world champion cart made by me id take the last level in Ninja Gaiden 1 for the first challenge, the inside of the Technodrome level in Ninja Turtles 1 for the 2nd, and for the 3rd, the last castle in Zelda 2. You have to do all that with no time limit but you have to beat them all without dyeing once to get a you win screen and you also have to have the highest score to win the tournament but there would be no multipliers or time limits on any of them giving the player room to make there own strategy. I guess give a max of 2 hours to play if you can live that long in any of those environments lol. Id put the end screen from ghostbusters on NES as the you win screen just for a joke and program in an optional reward where if you accept it makes you play the first level of Dr Jeckle and Mr Hyde. LOL
That first question was great for me it's:
Favorite Console: PS1 - Worst Game on PS1: Ninja: Shadow of Darkness
Least Favorite Console (that I owned): GameCube - Favorite game on it: Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (and we have 0 hope for a remake/remaster....yay)
Man i still have 2 third party wii remotes still in the package, 1 of them is half opened and the other is still sealed.
pat's reaction to Hatsune Miku is hilarious I personally love seeing people reactions who know nothing about her
Great video and topic. Just for the fuck of it this got me thinking. ha ha. Least favorite console would probably be the CD-i. Played it on emulation and couldnt find any redeeming qualities to it. Even the Jaguar might have 1 or 2 good games, 3D0 has some great ports but maybe not great exclusives. Problem is I cant think of a single game that would qualify as a favorite. Hotel Mario was atleast playable, so that might be my pick. There are some machines that are much worse but those are old computers like the Spectrum and Amstrad. Spectrum even has a few good games, and maybe even Amstrad. N64 I owned and never really liked it, but it seems amazing compared to CD-i.
Least favorite game on my favorite console would probably be Duke Nukem Forever on the Xbox 360. The 360 is probably one of my favorite consoles based on how many games I completed on it, how much time I put into some of those games. That generation was one of my favorites. Damn hard to pick a favorite generation though. There are some worse games on the 360 but I never picked them up or played them so Duke Nukem wins by default.
I think once these retro games get to the point of not working anymore the value will really plunge. That may be decades from now but at some point it will happen. People who didnt grow up with these games will also eventually forget or not be exposed to these games and not value them. I run all the older shit on an emulation dedicated PC which I think is the best way to preserve these games and play them moving forward. It may not be ideal for speedrunners who want to run games on identical hardware, but even that has limitations as each console and tv set up is not going to be exact.
He didn't mean the 90's per se, he just meant when NES games were at their lowest value in general. He clearly doesn't know the market history as well as you guys. He basically meant the 2000's, like between 2000 and 2010 when the prices were at their lowest. It was a simple question, gotta read between the lines guys.
And no, they aren't going to ever drop to those dirt cheap levels again. I actually do not agree that they will ever be like model trains where nobody cares about them. The NES will always be somewhat relevant simply because there are so many amazing classic games on the system, and great games will always be relevant to some degree. Also simply because of the unique look and sound of the NES, it will always have some appeal even many many years from now.
I'm not even sure why people keep asking that question. It's THE cliche thing to ask. Are they hoping to load up on cheap games again? No, you missed it, sorry.
That's the thing anyway: as soon as YOU think it's interesting, millions of other people already had the same thought. And the prices will sky rocket. Unless you're a fanatic like Pat and got into it when nobody gave a shit and laughed at you for collecting them.
The flip side is that the prices will only be dirt cheap again when nobody (including you) cares anymore, because there's some other popular thing to spend your money on.
Seems like a pointless question. If you want to make money of off stuff, you're already way too late if you have to ask someone else, and if you really want to play the games, just go the ROM way.
@@omikronweapon Yea pretty much, ship has sailed on getting old games for cheap.
For the record, yes, Toilet Kids is practically impossible. "Bullet sponge" is an extremely accurate description of the bosses.
I watched a letsplay just to get a sense of what it was. Damn. that first boss took 10 minutes or something. No real skill or difficulty, just SLOOOOW.
Like Hunter:The Reckoning
Wait, does Ian think N64 is worse than the CDI/3DO/Atari Jaguar/Virtual Boy !?!?!
Pat starts all these segments like, 'please keep it short' and.... sometimes people do lol
22:49 I heard of Vocaloids and even have some of the merch including a PS3 game, but comparing Miku Hatsune to a Disney franchise seen _everywhere_ is a bit of a stretch
Vocaloids started out as a way for music bands with out a vocalist, or needing a certain sound to get that through technology.
Miku, by far the most famous but not the first! It's often said the Ievan Polkka Miku video is what really started her fame in the west. While she technically appeared in a special OVA episode of Lucky Star anime.
Now Miku has become the perfect Diva, no tantrums, can work 24/7 and forever 16.
So Ian is kinda of correct Miku has been used in Japan in TV adds for Toyota, Daihatsu made a Miku edition car (known as Daihatsune, her last name being Hatsune) & has even starred in a TV commercial along side Scarlett Johansson - it was a Lux Shampoo add, trust me it's worth a watch XD)
What ever you think of Vocaloids, atleast try the games. Made by Sega they are up there with the best of the rhythm games!
IMO - I think V-tubers are the next step of what ever Miku' is, since humans crave interaction with celebrities & mix that with the anime best girl wars... ^^
but Treasure worked on Gradius?
I owned Where's Waldo on NES as a kid and rather enjoyed it. I also enjoyed Jaws on NES. Maybe I"m just attracted to games people hate.
Hate - Palm Springs Golf on the CDi. Also hate that console.
Hate - ToeJam & Earl on the Mega Drive/Genesis. Love that console.
My favourite console was a glorified Pong machine by Grandstand. No cartridge, just a dial selector.
I'll tell you, the only reason it is just video games is that the movie/tv industry is in the throes of destroying themselves with the content sharding. This Old House, Ask This Old House and New Yankee Workshop - just those 3 shows - has its own streaming service now.
Mario tennis on virtual boy would be an easy one.
Fav game on least fav console: never been a Super Nintendo fan but I love Plok.
Least fav game on fav console: PS2, I can’t believe the game World Championship Paintball is officially licensed(not Greg Hastings Tournament Paintball, a much better game) One of the game modes literally doesn’t work and you win automatically at the end of time even if you don’t do anything.
I can't be the only person that hated Unlimited Saga on the PS2.
I have Toilet Kids, I got to the final boss but died to his poop. All you have to do is get the power up in the beginning of the 1st level so you can actually do damage to enemies, and then never get hit for the rest of the game or you lose since there aren't any other power ups in any level past the first. Incredible game design.
I think the micro transaction thing will be left as a choice to the game sellers, if they want Europeans to join there online games and there game sold in Europe they will have to follow there laws or loose those customers the choice is theirs and im sure they wont say no to money so itll effect North America too. If Xbox and PS were smart they would include an IP bouncer built into there consoles so people in other countries can get around the rules that stop them from playing games and increase sales and increase software sales too. Example if GTA5 was banned in Canada and i really wanted to play it on Xbox One i could manually look up a type in a random IP that would say im in the USA to get around that but if it had built in IP bouncing it could do that for everyone everywhere instantly allowing entire countries access to games that are banned if they choose to use the IP bounce Also allowing them to buy American digital games and download them. $$$$$$ Its not like there governments are going to go door to door checking consoles to see if the IP bouncer is turned on or if they downloaded Wolfenstein 3D lol. Also other countries would still have to physically get there hands on a console so you can still control what counties are connecting through distribution even if everyone on earth bounces there Xbox IP.
As a native angelino, I agree.
I think the best example of a favorite game on most hated system would be Virtua Racing 32x deluxe. Absolutely beautiful game for the time, plays great, has beautiful soundtrack clips, it's like best home version of the game, but fuck the 32x. Some would also put Knuckles Chaotix here just for its originality, weirdness and lack of any re-release
Are you kidding me? I used to work at Goodwill in the early 2000s and we'd get 5 or 6 NES games a day back then. As soon as the SNES was in everyone's house, NO ONE (very few) cared about the NES.
Pat misses the days of buying 30 NES games at the flea market for $20 dollars.
Pat thinks loose $5 NES games with $5 dollars shipping on Ebay are too expensive.
Yep. I remember getting a bunch of NES consoles at EB for 1.99-2.99 each in the early 00s, and games for about 50 cents to a buck or so. Made great gifts!
Lol Waldo. Arcus beat that game in like 29 seconds. Haven’t played but looks horrible.
Impossible. It takes Waldo, like, ten minutes just to walk from one stage to the next!
@@bryangarcia5599 I realized Waldo has 2 games on NES. Arcus beat Wheres Waldo in 2:15 and the Great Waldo Search in 29 seconds.
@@superduty2023 Ah. That makes more sense (I was, of course, exaggerating).
@@bryangarcia5599 Not by much, ha
favorite system: PS2. least favorite game is Stuntman, really bad scripting, not much freedom or different ways to beat the scenarios, very outdated driving mechanics and some missions are simply way too difficult and become very frustrating very quick. though its hard for me to choose because I'm not sure if I played that many bad games for the PS2 personally
least favorite system: agree with Ian here, N64. most favorite game: Ocarina. its a masterpiece. either that or diddy kong racing. badass game. would like to say mario 64 but thats an obvious one I feel
My favorite game on my least favorite system has got to be......corpse killer on the Sega CD. That's not even the best version of it, which is the Saturn version.....so bad but yet so charming
Thought Ian was gonna go Deep Blue PCE, dang
I've actually never played it!
@@pxlsicle ud b smart to keep it that way tbh lol
Bug is my favorite game on my least favorite console which is Sega Saturn. Don't get me wrong the Saturn is a fantastic game system its the high game prices that make my decision.
Oooooo mine would be Saturn bomberman.
Definitely should have purchased games for it before 2012
Logically many would say the posterboy of the worst PS1 game of all time was Bubsy 3d or something, but I kind of love that game and it crosses over to "so bad it's good" for me.
The absolute worst I've played personally is probably Razor (scooter) racing. I thought it would be so bad it's good, but no, it's just so bad it's *DEAD FUCKING BORING* . It's one of those great extreme sports games where you can bail doing tricks in a race, but the tricks do not seem benefit you at all if you do land them. I couldn't even play live 2 player to rip it on it, absolute shit.
I see where Pat is coming from with the model train analogy but don't think it is entirely a 1:1 comparison. Video games have infinitely more cultural significance and value than model trains ever did. I agree that something like the nes will absolutely lose value over time, we are already seeing a decline on interest right now, but I just can't ever see nes games being as worthless in the future as model trains are now
I didnt like Cyber Speedway on the Saturn but I love the system. Tatsunoku vs Capcom on the Wii was great although I dont care for the console.
Fav game on least liked console: Sin & Punishment N64.
Least liked game on fav console: Dragon Ball Z: Idainaru Dragon Ball Densetsu on Sega Saturn
N64 is great...stop shitting on it lol
But is it NES-great?
Which Baldwin brother would the N64 be?
Whereas Waldo is great for speed runs for fun lol EPROMs have a 50 yr life on average so most carts won’t work soon
DOES anyone know the best program ro get a PS3 controller to work on PC? One that you don't need a PC programming degree to get work.
I have like 5 Wii sports and Wii sports resort. I thought they were worthless
Because of the pandemic and people being stuck at home, those games have gone up in price. A lot of retro games went up in price. Nintendo made games on the Gamecube at that time, were around $60. That is $10 more than they were new.
Remember book stores....uhhh they never left...
Amazon doesn't count.
@@HiNRGboy Barnes & Noble and Books-A-Million/2nd & Charles are still around, but aren't nearly as widespread as they once were. Borders, of course, has been gone for years. You _might_ still find the odd independent/'Mom-and-Pop' bookshop here and there, but what with COVID and all, there's no telling how long _those_ will be around.
@@bryangarcia5599 We have Chapters here in Canada, and I doubt its going away anytime soon. I guess you Mericans dont read anything in print anymore.
@@honestreviews8534 Chapters? You mean that Zionist-run chain that funnels money to Israeli lone soldiers and pulled _Mein Kampf_ from its shelves in an act of 'anti-fascist fascism'? Yeah, those jerks can stay up there in Canada.
yeah... not sure what Pat's beef was. He's a gamer anyway, so of course he's not gonna care about books as much. People still read and buy books.
We watched Sound of Music over the holidays. I always knew it was good, but definitely saw it for the first time in a while and I was pretty blown away.
fav game on least fav console: Pokemon Yellow GB. least fav game on fav console: Eek! The Cat on SNES
Worst PC Engine game I bought in the early 90's was the Ranma 1/2 side scroller CD system game. An awful terrible no good piece of garbage.
Really Ian, the N64? I get that it doesn’t have the most diverse library, but it’s worse than the Jaguar? The Sega CD? The 3DO? The CD-i?
@@kopeofonrac2084 I don’t even hate all of those consoles I listed (in fact, I think the Sega CD is rather underrated, it was a decent idea and it served some purpose in its time), but yes: with as many consoles as he’s aware of, you’d think he wouldn’t hold the N64 in such low regard. The man is entitled to his opinion, and it’s no skin off my back, I just don’t get it.
@@kopeofonrac2084 Most of my multiplayer experience on the console was at a friend’s house. His dad was our den leader in Webelos, so we got to play Goldeneye every Friday night before our meeting. In retrospect, it might not have been the most age-appropriate game for nine-year-olds, but it’s pretty tame compared to modern shooters. Sometimes it’d be DKR or Turok, but it was usually Goldeneye.
Where's Frank
Lol well the Game & Watch isn't exactly the ideal way to play Super Mario Bros. Am sure the controls aren't that good & the device is cramped for one. Two, it's Emulation based so there's probably lag. If I play Super Mario Bros on the original console or an FPGA based one, I can beat it easily. But on a device like that, I'd probably die a lot too.
Hold on, was that really Ian? Short hair and no wizard beard? Wow!
Yeah, check out Pat's NES Punk video on Caltron.
I generally like musicals, but Pat picked a bunch of my least favorites lol. Maybe that’s why he has a negative impression.
finally prices are dropping? Good, I want to get Contra and Micro Machines.
Just sold my contra
If your buying loose carts and not Complete in Box they should be cheap on Ebay.
Wow Contra is back up in price again. Last year you could get it for $25.00. I bought Super C last year. It’s cheaper. Not paying $40.00 for Contra.
MY CLAIM TO FAME. Yeaaaaah baby!!
Least fav system - PC
Fav game - The Sims
Fav system - Nintendo Switch
Least fav game - Shaq Fu: A Legend Reborn
Hey Neckbeard! The N64 doesn't like you either especially your twin Darunia from ocarina of time!
N64 sucked donkeyballs
Low 320x240 resolution, muddy blurry textures and effing cartridges. But at least it had a z-buffer.
PS1 with its textures and shapes that bounce everywhere. Being a PC gamer, I never saw PS1 until years later, and it never impressed me. How do you take a cutscene seriously when the characters look like they're having seizures?
Hey fellas
Aw come on, Pat. Dissing splatoon skills? Not cool, man.
“Sonic the Hedgehog”, “Home Alone”, and “Where’s Waldo?” were the first three games I had on Genesis.
LOL a Hatsune Miku Dynasty Warriors game would be HORRIBLE! That shit would be Anime as hell & just stupid corny. No thanks.
Vocaloid fighting game