You don't have to trust it. The whole purpose of disinformation is to sow distrust. They don't need you to believe them, but rather simply to not believe anyone (or, alternately, for everyone to believe different people, such as only what their own friends told them). It's designed to neutralize the potential for concerted campaigns, not create any.
Oh, I saw alright. I just didn't care to indulge it, since I found it rather inane. Would rather just explain the point of the real thing for others rather than play along with a silly joke.
Damn. Channels like this and TedEd are just good things in the world. We need more of these, not biased news networks who just want money and don't even care if they give you the wrong (or blanantly biased) news. Makes my damn heart aches knowing that everything is like that in the world, sometimes I forget.
'Cept you're equating two very different media organisations - public education portals (like this) and news portals. They face very different requirements and pressures and hence a comparison between them is pointless. For just one example, which is relevant to the content of this episode, education portals face much less pressure to be the first to report newest developments aka 'breaking news' - hence the misinformation potential is far less.
Mendicant Bias I see where you'd be right. But I still think education and the reliability of news networks is important. I'm taking an AP class right now and one of the biggest things is writing a DBQ-Document based question. Citing sources is crucial, but so is having background information yourself. The two go hand in hand, really, knowing what is and is not relevant in news today and the process which we percieve it is important. I'll keep this debate going if you want, just no flaming please :)
"I still think education and the reliability of news networks is important." - Did I ever suggest they weren't? I simply pointed out that you were comparing two different types of media organisations that face different circumstances and judging one unfavorably against the standards of the other. To add to that, the organisation responsible for this video is also a different business organisation - a non-profit - than that of most of the news media agencies you're decrying. It's like judging your boss at work against the standards of your local depression support group counselor - your boss has to ensure your department stays on top of their game, lowering costs and raising productivity and profitability month after month...while your counselor just has to make you feel better, and has as much time to do so as you're willing to give them. Crash Course (or rather the Complexly NGO they fall under, as well as PBS Digital Studios) rely on donors, but they already have those by now (and PBS is also publicly funded, btw). They don't need to outmuscle their competition and certainly don't need to worry about being profitable. News organisations are not only part of a highly competitive industry, they're also all currently slowly hemorrhaging to death thanks to portals like Facebook and its Instant Articles shenanigans. They also have to stay on top of the news as it unfolds, rather than having the luxury of waiting it out and then presenting an educational video once more of the facts are known. They have to maintain a network of journalists and contacts all over the place to ferret out primary information rather than just Googling info online and then condensing it into a friendly and easily digestible 10-min video. And they have to do all this (and more) while also often offering all or most of their content for free (like CC) - while still staying profitable so as to pay out investors (unlike CC) and so having to rely on advertising for revenue while still being expected to remain neutral and fair despite all their money coming from a source that keeps pushing for the exact opposite. Do you think they're biased or click-baity or sensationalist or whatever else just cos they're evil or something? I'd invite you to try actually running a 24-hr news agency (even a small local one) and see for yourself how well you do by emulating the principles of CC.
I would like to say this Crash Course series should be recommended and perhaps even required viewing in schools. Adults could benefit from it too. Is it perfect? No. Should you apply the same standard to it that it encourages you to apply to media in general? Yup. But Jay Smooth gives you some great tools to work with in these videos!
It's important not to make a false dichotomy between "normal media" and propaganda, all media is loaded with bias, and it seems disingenuous to imply that only certain people are pushing their agendas.
Haha, no, that's a thing in America at least. It's cultural and systemic though, with each feeding into the other. While I can't speak to every country I know that it is not this way in many countries.
Even comic books were propaganda in the 1940's, Captain America, Wonder Woman, and like a dozen other heroes in star-spangled leotards whose stories never made it out of their decade.
Valuable stuff. I traveled through Mazula in 78. I was hitchhiking around America. It was the coolest city I ever saw. I had way to much fun. Is Lucky's tavern still there? I wonder. I am not surprised that this high-quality production is from Mazula. Is Mary still there?
What about disinformation intentionally being presented as misinformation? What about "propaganda" label being painted on true information because it is harmful or unwanted? These are concepts important to media literacy, I should have been hearing about this in the video.
Question. Do the people near the beginning of this comment section who were saying that this video is propaganda and that it's promoting biased information (not saying the video wasn't biased in some way. all information will be biased somehow) do they know that in the description they have all of their sources listed? you could see where they got their information and fact-check their sources if you wanted to.
Propaganda can be good , as interpreted from its definition- When based on facts BAD when based on flawed arguenments ( got it freon crash course philosophy!!!), disinformation,and misinformation
Titanic is a perfectly fine movie until the very end, when Rose throws a HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT ARTIFACT INTO THE BLOODY OCEAN because "love or whatever". So, sorry: I'm my own evil twin on that one.
Because they didn't go into politics first, sure. All the examples of disinformation are leftist lies, and they are in no way confirmed to be disinformation, they just state it to be so.
If you see news on a weird-looking website, scroll all the way down to find out that on this site everyone can post anything and they still get money when they get clicks.
What is the difference between campaigns and truthful propaganda? They seem like just different ways to say the same thing. Both intend to persuade, both intend to change or manipulate behavior. It seems to me, that the difference is whether the campaign or propaganda fits with your world view. To some people it is advertising, to others it is propaganda.
Too bad this definition of propaganda focuses on information, since most scholars acknowledge that propaganda also includes entertainment, education and activism. Focusing on propaganda as "evil" is a real problem because it pathologizes the actors involved. Propagandists are true believers-- they think their messages are valuable and important.
Putting propaganda in the same basket as misinformation and disinformation makes little sense. They act like their infotainment isn't a type of propaganda. I find it just peachy that they quote you and then ignore this.
Sure okay... but having multiple varied sources SHOULD be better than a limited handful of sources solely controlled by those in power and already with influence... So long as you understand basic fact checking practices and know how to tell the difference between facts and opinion. ... It's just that you KIND of made it sound like only getting information from a few mainstream sources [which can be victim to the same downfalls and often politically biased *cough* fox news] is safer and better than taking in information from a free-global market of exchanging ideas....
Dangerous to say with such certainty that russia was involved when that still hasn't been proved... Makes everything else in the video get called into question
There has been an ever increasing abundance of evidence proving Russian state and state sanctioned actors were involved according to numerous sources and investigations both independent and government. At a certain level, the truth comes out, and anyone trained enough can notice the difference between honest reporting and propaganda, bias, or opinion journalism. It is not propaganda that Russia actively employed a misinformation and influence campaign and there is mounting evidence they've done it elsewhere including during Brexit, the recent French elections with Macron, and elsewhere in Europe. Even Trump's administration and Fox News have acknowledged Russia's malicious attack on our election. If you gauge from multiple sources, especially center oriented sources (Reuters, Politifact, Associated Press to name a few objectively non-biased at least compared to NYT or Washington Post let alone somewhere like Vox or The Federalist), you should be able to recognize this. The Government should be trusted in general but with a grain of salt. The Press should be trusted but verified through multiple sources. The only sources truly arguing there is no real evidence are demonstrably sycophantic and partisan. And no, xenophobia is bred from bigotry against people. Near as I can tell effectively no one is xenophobic against Russians. The enemy is Putin and everyone who accepts Russia's involvement in our elections knows that. The people are victims, too. Maybe if Vox or Rachel Maddow started talking about the evils of Russian citizens the same way Trump casually denotes Mexican migrants/refugees as rapists you'd have a point.
Agreed to some extent but the Russian government have and have been meddling in other countries elections for years for money. However I don't believe they've done the same during US 2016 elections there was too much investigations going on even THEN for someone to not notice unfamiliar agents in both parties campaigns doing changes. It's would've been found our earlier. And I'm liberal progressive
While I agree with the sentiment, it is a little amusing when I've seen videos from this channel where the narrator has a blatant socio-political bias inserted into his commentary.
"The moral of the story: always double check the veracity of information and sources we see, lest we become victims of misdirection."
Good advice!
And make sure to do it even when you agree with what it says, especially when you agree with what it says.
I just can't thank crash course enough. Their videos are amazing. Thank you for existing.
“Disinformation” very interesting but how can we be sure we can trust dis information
You don't have to trust it. The whole purpose of disinformation is to sow distrust. They don't need you to believe them, but rather simply to not believe anyone (or, alternately, for everyone to believe different people, such as only what their own friends told them). It's designed to neutralize the potential for concerted campaigns, not create any.
I see what you did there (unlike the previous two commenters)
Oh, I saw alright. I just didn't care to indulge it, since I found it rather inane. Would rather just explain the point of the real thing for others rather than play along with a silly joke.
Mendicant Bias Advice for a healthier life: Appreciate the bad pun first, criticise the point later
Acknowledge it, more like. Anyway, fair enough.
Thank you for this. Education is so important and I love that you present it in such a clear and entertaining way.
Damn. Channels like this and TedEd are just good things in the world. We need more of these, not biased news networks who just want money and don't even care if they give you the wrong (or blanantly biased) news. Makes my damn heart aches knowing that everything is like that in the world, sometimes I forget.
'Cept you're equating two very different media organisations - public education portals (like this) and news portals. They face very different requirements and pressures and hence a comparison between them is pointless. For just one example, which is relevant to the content of this episode, education portals face much less pressure to be the first to report newest developments aka 'breaking news' - hence the misinformation potential is far less.
Mendicant Bias I see where you'd be right. But I still think education and the reliability of news networks is important. I'm taking an AP class right now and one of the biggest things is writing a DBQ-Document based question. Citing sources is crucial, but so is having background information yourself. The two go hand in hand, really, knowing what is and is not relevant in news today and the process which we percieve it is important.
I'll keep this debate going if you want, just no flaming please :)
"I still think education and the reliability of news networks is important." - Did I ever suggest they weren't? I simply pointed out that you were comparing two different types of media organisations that face different circumstances and judging one unfavorably against the standards of the other. To add to that, the organisation responsible for this video is also a different business organisation - a non-profit - than that of most of the news media agencies you're decrying. It's like judging your boss at work against the standards of your local depression support group counselor - your boss has to ensure your department stays on top of their game, lowering costs and raising productivity and profitability month after month...while your counselor just has to make you feel better, and has as much time to do so as you're willing to give them. Crash Course (or rather the Complexly NGO they fall under, as well as PBS Digital Studios) rely on donors, but they already have those by now (and PBS is also publicly funded, btw). They don't need to outmuscle their competition and certainly don't need to worry about being profitable. News organisations are not only part of a highly competitive industry, they're also all currently slowly hemorrhaging to death thanks to portals like Facebook and its Instant Articles shenanigans. They also have to stay on top of the news as it unfolds, rather than having the luxury of waiting it out and then presenting an educational video once more of the facts are known. They have to maintain a network of journalists and contacts all over the place to ferret out primary information rather than just Googling info online and then condensing it into a friendly and easily digestible 10-min video. And they have to do all this (and more) while also often offering all or most of their content for free (like CC) - while still staying profitable so as to pay out investors (unlike CC) and so having to rely on advertising for revenue while still being expected to remain neutral and fair despite all their money coming from a source that keeps pushing for the exact opposite. Do you think they're biased or click-baity or sensationalist or whatever else just cos they're evil or something? I'd invite you to try actually running a 24-hr news agency (even a small local one) and see for yourself how well you do by emulating the principles of CC.
Its only a matter of time before you get disappointed then :(
I love CrashCourse but sadly they're also biased.
"Always double check the veracity of the information we see."
About time someone in the media talks about it.
Florida Man + Skyrim Reference = Good Headline
"Florida man on bath salts takes an arrow to the knee."
“Florida man wielding a stop sign kills a dragon whilst nude”
Florida Man's out fighting alligators and what do I get, guard duty... *sigh*
I would like to say this Crash Course series should be recommended and perhaps even required viewing in schools. Adults could benefit from it too. Is it perfect? No. Should you apply the same standard to it that it encourages you to apply to media in general? Yup. But Jay Smooth gives you some great tools to work with in these videos!
It's important not to make a false dichotomy between "normal media" and propaganda, all media is loaded with bias, and it seems disingenuous to imply that only certain people are pushing their agendas.
The Darkseid of the media? The Thanos of the media would be more trendy now.
Seriously? 😳
The fact that you guys had to make a series on common sense is terrifying to me.
Great video! I feel like I've learned so much. I'll definitely be following this series. Also, your voice is really to listen to. :)
His description of the evil twin sounds like me
Ava Rex me too fr
Sounds like my old "friend" that would gas light me and my old buddies and then further ostracize me.
Right? I hate titanic.. missing the moustache though
As you have described it, there is zero difference between advertisement and propaganda. As far as I'm concerned, that's true.
*Inflammatory broad generalization about the gullibility of a group of people.*
Garret LeBuis +
Haha, no, that's a thing in America at least.
It's cultural and systemic though, with each feeding into the other. While I can't speak to every country I know that it is not this way in many countries.
The Grinning Viking so it’s exactly what Garret LeBuis said?
The Grinning Viking is this irony? Did you just make a broad generalization?
*Vague statement that preserves his sense of mystique*
Great episode guys! :)
Damn, less than 100k views on this jewel?? Wonder if the algorithms learned not to recommend this eye-opening course.
Even comic books were propaganda in the 1940's, Captain America, Wonder Woman, and like a dozen other heroes in star-spangled leotards whose stories never made it out of their decade.
Thank you all the patreons
Worth adding a part 2 to this. Nonetheless, I liked it a lot...
oh, no, i’m already dreading this comment section...
It would suck to have to reexamine your biases, I feel for you.
Your voice is soothing and your vids are awesome 😀👍
Valuable stuff. I traveled through Mazula in 78. I was hitchhiking around America. It was the coolest city I ever saw. I had way to much fun. Is Lucky's tavern still there? I wonder. I am not surprised that this high-quality production is from Mazula. Is Mary still there?
For anyone who cares to wake up and be red pilled, watch the documentary: Manufacturing Consent. Or better yet, read the book
What about disinformation intentionally being presented as misinformation? What about "propaganda" label being painted on true information because it is harmful or unwanted? These are concepts important to media literacy, I should have been hearing about this in the video.
Love that Elder Scrolls reference.
Wait... I have facial hair and hate Titanic. Am I an evil twin?!
Do you hate chocolate? 🍫
Question. Do the people near the beginning of this comment section who were saying that this video is propaganda and that it's promoting biased information (not saying the video wasn't biased in some way. all information will be biased somehow) do they know that in the description they have all of their sources listed? you could see where they got their information and fact-check their sources if you wanted to.
Propaganda can be good , as interpreted from its definition-
When based on facts
BAD when based on flawed arguenments ( got it freon crash course philosophy!!!), disinformation,and misinformation
Titanic is a perfectly fine movie until the very end, when Rose throws a HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT ARTIFACT INTO THE BLOODY OCEAN because "love or whatever". So, sorry: I'm my own evil twin on that one.
Hey is he gonna cover the propoganda model by Chomsky and Herman
This is why I only trust The Onion.
Liked. Shared. Encouraged.
Guys cmon theyre just trying to teach people lets not let this slip into politics
zombie blood yeah because everyone who just tries to teach us something is sooo sweet and innocent.
Everything is politics
Heads Tails Heads it's religion. Tails it's politics.
STFU
Because they didn't go into politics first, sure.
All the examples of disinformation are leftist lies, and they are in no way confirmed to be disinformation, they just state it to be so.
I wanna learn how to summon the flame atronach!
This Digital Media major approves!
SHARE THIS TO THE WORLD,REQUIRED IN CLASS AND ALL JOBS.
Way to go J smooth!
I loved the Loony Tunes WWII propaganda cartoons
Very interesting.
Completely true. Always verify.
the amount of times this guy blink is counted on one hand XD
Really good!
Where does manufacturing consent come into this ?
Mr. Jay Smooth 😊
If you see news on a weird-looking website, scroll all the way down to find out that on this site everyone can post anything and they still get money when they get clicks.
Educational!
My dudes someone summoned a flame atrinoch. This is serious business.
What is the difference between campaigns and truthful propaganda? They seem like just different ways to say the same thing. Both intend to persuade, both intend to change or manipulate behavior. It seems to me, that the difference is whether the campaign or propaganda fits with your world view. To some people it is advertising, to others it is propaganda.
A MAN A PLAN A CANAL, PANAMA.
Now read me backwards.
What is disinformation and misinformation?
What kinda software do u use?
Titanic is not the greatest movie, Godfather 1 is.
You know in some counties you can't even conjure a flame atronach on Sundays? The religious laws in this country... Sheesh.
Too bad this definition of propaganda focuses on information, since most scholars acknowledge that propaganda also includes entertainment, education and activism. Focusing on propaganda as "evil" is a real problem because it pathologizes the actors involved. Propagandists are true believers-- they think their messages are valuable and important.
Putting propaganda in the same basket as misinformation and disinformation makes little sense. They act like their infotainment isn't a type of propaganda. I find it just peachy that they quote you and then ignore this.
I like how Stained Class by Judas Priest is on the wall.
This is why twirly mustaches are a good investment
I am boycotting marvel and I encourage others to do so too.
In this video: important information that the comments on the left and right are too blind and bigoted to pay attention to.
Interesting. Just like the like-dislike ratio on this video when compared to the amount of skeptics in the comment section.
I will confront to my evil twin : "YA PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL!!"
Wait what? No thumbnail?
Burns is nice! Excellent!
The weather report!
so many spooky ghosts in the brain, maaaan
The greatest film of all time is footloose
Misinformations, Propagandas, Disinformations and Fake News. In my country the Philippines, we have experts on that. Naming PCOO and Mocha Uson Blog.
I am the evil twin
Thank you tell me the truth, I'm Chinese but in our country nobody talks about what happened in 1989.
Well, what happened in 1989?
Damn, I think *I* might be the evil twin
That was my Islamic center in Texas!
Sure okay... but having multiple varied sources SHOULD be better than a limited handful of sources solely controlled by those in power and already with influence... So long as you understand basic fact checking practices and know how to tell the difference between facts and opinion. ... It's just that you KIND of made it sound like only getting information from a few mainstream sources [which can be victim to the same downfalls and often politically biased *cough* fox news] is safer and better than taking in information from a free-global market of exchanging ideas....
Great!
NOT THE SHOES
This is the most evil thing good people have done
welp, Plato got a point
I HAS TO GET A MOUSTACHE, AN EVIL ONE
by the end of this weve all become more evil and somehow no one notices
I hate the movie Titanic. Maybe I am the evil twin.
So the kids in my civics class always be like *J smoooothh* XD
If not liking the movie Titanic is evil, then I'd better change my screen name to Osama bin Hitler.
Please take my life, I need a break.
I actually do have a evil twin! Except we are not identical... and she is a hour older....
IRONIC
That evil twin... sounds like a Schwarzenegger movie to me.
Fact checking is your friend.
Coincidence that this comes out during the Trump Presidency? Enjoyed the "Think evil" part.
Does he sound like the Kahn Academy guy to anyone else?
can someone give me a summary of this in 2-4 sentences bcoz this is my hw.
Man, this is a very good video, not only does it tell us what propaganda and disinformation is, it is a perfect example of both!
Hats off to you guys.
Xenath Cytrin Your comment is confusing. Could you explain yourself?
this is awesome
But what if Crash Course is propaganda?
It is.
Omg I'm the evil twin
Can we discuss his titanic fetish hahaha
Ahh, partisanship. What a lovely sight
Did God tell us to trust news?
mm tiktok song
Emo music is good
That's it, I'll become a propagandee
Dangerous to say with such certainty that russia was involved when that still hasn't been proved... Makes everything else in the video get called into question
Except it has been proved. Multiple times. The only reason you think that is because you've been fed lies yourself from right wing media.
You've just proven everything said in this video right.
There has been an ever increasing abundance of evidence proving Russian state and state sanctioned actors were involved according to numerous sources and investigations both independent and government. At a certain level, the truth comes out, and anyone trained enough can notice the difference between honest reporting and propaganda, bias, or opinion journalism. It is not propaganda that Russia actively employed a misinformation and influence campaign and there is mounting evidence they've done it elsewhere including during Brexit, the recent French elections with Macron, and elsewhere in Europe. Even Trump's administration and Fox News have acknowledged Russia's malicious attack on our election.
If you gauge from multiple sources, especially center oriented sources (Reuters, Politifact, Associated Press to name a few objectively non-biased at least compared to NYT or Washington Post let alone somewhere like Vox or The Federalist), you should be able to recognize this. The Government should be trusted in general but with a grain of salt. The Press should be trusted but verified through multiple sources. The only sources truly arguing there is no real evidence are demonstrably sycophantic and partisan.
And no, xenophobia is bred from bigotry against people. Near as I can tell effectively no one is xenophobic against Russians. The enemy is Putin and everyone who accepts Russia's involvement in our elections knows that. The people are victims, too. Maybe if Vox or Rachel Maddow started talking about the evils of Russian citizens the same way Trump casually denotes Mexican migrants/refugees as rapists you'd have a point.
Agreed to some extent but the Russian government have and have been meddling in other countries elections for years for money. However I don't believe they've done the same during US 2016 elections there was too much investigations going on even THEN for someone to not notice unfamiliar agents in both parties campaigns doing changes. It's would've been found our earlier.
And I'm liberal progressive
Just rewatched the whole video; couldn't find any part where they said Russia was involved.
T I T A N I C
While I agree with the sentiment, it is a little amusing when I've seen videos from this channel where the narrator has a blatant socio-political bias inserted into his commentary.