Considering a Used Porsche Taycan? Here's What to Expect.
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- Since late 2019 up until Q1 2024 Porsche has sold ca. 147,000 Taycans worldwide. After the initial success, a number of technical issues caught up with the Taycan and annoyed customers. The Taycan is very expensive as new and this combined with the aggressive pricing by other EV manufacturers as well as the fact that Porsche pushed large Taycan volumes into the market has caused the prices of used Taycans to drop to a level which is unusual for Porsches.
This Taycan 4S is my third Taycan. I bought it used with just 14,000 km in mint condition. In this video I will explain in some more detail the key technical issues and recalls and what caused the used car prices to drop so much.
But the Taycan is still a great car and most of the issues have been resolved, however, many are still hesitant to buy one because of fears of expensive repairs.
This video is the first of several Taycan videos to come over the next weeks and months.
Thank you for watching Mobility Insider.
Filmed in Switzerland in March, 2024 and produced by DNTS Productions.
First time I am seeing a video from you. Very well done. I bought my Taycan new and have only had a squeak in the suspension that was taken care of but I think it’s good to mention these things to be fair to a prospective audience. It’s an awesome car and I hope you enjoy yours.
Thank you for watching! Your comment is highly appreciated. Do have a look at some of my other videos! Yes, I enjoy my Taycan. I have two other Porsche 911s and try to keep them all running...
Great video! Now with the new Taycan just announced, the 2nd hand prices will drop even more.. so your video is really at the right moment. Danke from Germany. Lookin forward to more Taycan content!
Thank you for watching! That is very likely. The Taycan is just like any other everyday car - unlike the 911 which holds the value much better. I'd expect the used Taycans to lose ca. 10% (linear) per year from the new base in April 2024.
68k € for new units now in Germany. A bargain
@@RafitoMembroza Incredible value, even if it is with the small battery.
@@morten_hannesbo Yes. I am looking at reviews at the moment because they are so tempting! I am just a bit afraid that the range of 444 WLTP km is too small. This may be a real range of 333 km so in a trip it means that you need to stop to charge every 300 km... Performance Plus battery adds a range of 50 km, which is essential
@@RafitoMembroza Consider the fact that the Taycan charges ultra fast. If you use the navi system's preparation and preheat function, charging 10-80% takes just 18 mins at a 300 kW DC charger. Stopping every 2 1/2 - 3 hrs for 20 mins is no issue then.
Congrats, looks much better with your upgrades 😍
Thanks for the video. I am driving the same model for about 2 years and it is absolutely fantastic, comfortable, sporty and a great autobahn vehicle. I head two recalls: the heater and the onboard charger, both covered with the guarantee. The only problem is the price drop for people like me that bought a new one.
Thx👍
Does this mean people are upside down on their cars? So if you sell you'd end up owing the bank more money?
@@lafayettejones7458 Well, yes, that is very much possible. This being said, luxury goods should not be aggressively financed by a third party, if one buys such a car, one should have a healthy share of equity.
3 things are most important 1. Battery 2. Battery 3. Battery!
Correct is 1. Battery 2.batteries 3.batteries 😂
Beautiful car, and now with a nice price. My problem with this vehicle, and something you haven’t mentioned is the maintenance. Dealers are charging a fortune for maintenance and to fix the things you have highlighted. The whole point of EVs is cheap maintenance and this is something that is not happening with some legacy ev manufacturers.
I have not had any bad experiences so far as all problems were fixed under the manufacturer's Warranty, but Porsches were never cheap to maintain.
gotta go certified preowwned with these.
What maintenance? You only have to maintain the brakes and tyres on an EV like this, and it's easy to do that yourself or go to a local garage
@@xen.7140 I wish....but brakes, air suspension, gearbox, battery cooling liquid etc etc plus Porsche pricing makes it an expensive acquaintance.
@@morten_hannesbo I've had mine for 4 years and have yet to deal with any of these.
Porsche is so convinced of its own reliability that it offers the full 3 year warranty...Isn't that a treat or what 🙄? And, anyone else here thinking that such a vast number of issues is unworthy of Porsche? At Toyota, half of the design bureau would probably have been sacked...
Thanks for the video. I am also looking for a used Taycan while I am still driving (and liking) my Tesla MY Performance. But over 50% off the list price for a used Taycan in great condition is interesting value for money to me. I hope I will find a good deal within the next weeks and months...
Glad it was helpful!
Hi I enjoyed your video. Great pointers and I followed each one of those before I bought my 2022 Taycan . I love this car it only had 10,500 miles on it. Still has two year warranty
Thank you, and congrats on your choice!
I have a 2020 Taycan 4S that I bought new and now have 89,000 miles (140,000km).
The car drives like nothing else IMHO.
At what number of miles do you start to worry about a battery replacement?
That’s amazing any issues?
You must have been really happy with this one, selling it 6 months later with added 4'000km and upping the price to 78k
@@premos00 Not sold yet😊
Brilliant honest review
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Regarding the cost YOU have incured while owning those Taycans! : Every time you had to deliver the car to the Porsche center for repairs, you lost income and cost of transportation. There is huge cost involved in this!
@@popeyepanther4519 Yes, you are right.
I’ve been looking at taycan on Porsche uk website. Gonna wait for one to come along with all the right options. Must have matrix, adaptive cruise and lane keeping. Surround camera with park assist. Head up and night assist would be a bonus. But have to say, your video had scared the crap out of me
Very interesting thanks. I was considering a 2022 Taycan Cross Tourismo 4S which has lost 52% in 2 years whereas my 2020 Cayenne S has only lost 48% in 4 years. But seeing the improvements in the new model (range, power and charging times) I think I will wait a bit longer.
yeah w8 for one year and 2022 models will lose another 20-30%, most porsche owners always want newest models
@@datogadelia I think I will hang on to my Cayenne S for another 2-3 years. It's only done 40,000km and drives like new. I just did a 2000km road trip in it and I was amazed at the comfort (11 hours in the seat on one day and got out without any pain) and the economy for such a performance engine (28.8mpg over the 2000km)
Just got my hands on a 2021 4S! Absolutely incredible
Enjoy!
Really underrated channel! Subscribed! 🎉
🙏Thank you for your kind words.
Thank you for sharing your review !
@@gmailstof You are welcome.
Great content and thanks for the advice as i’m totally new to EV but have been a porsche car fan for years. It’s the 4S that appeals to me and yours is a lovely looking example ❤
🙏Thx for watching
Great video, thanks. Beautiful car, as well. When servicing the wheels, you always know someone that doesn’t work for Porsche, because the center caps don’t point to the valve stem. :)
That is German perfectionism!
Just in time! Thinking about turbo s taycan used. Have a deal floating for $68k 12k miles
That sound reasonable. Warranty still valid?
@@morten_hannesbo I also saw many Taycans beiing sold at that price, so i belive mr @buddydadd is making a good business. My first thought was also the warranty validation. I live in Hamburg and here you have some Taycans on sale, at this price. Thanks for this good video mr. @morten_hannesbo . Danke.
Excellent video. Really useful. Thank you!
Glad to hear and thank you for watching. PS You may be interested in my two other Taycan videos!
@@morten_hannesbo They have been! Picking up a 2020 4S on Thursday with my eyes wide open! Replacing a much loved and very reliable 996.
@@sundeepbhatia9974 You will love the Taycan. I own two 911s but always drive the Taycan.
Great video - best wishes for your channel
Extended warranty is a must.
Very insightful video. I am waiting for the 2025’s (facelift) to hit the streets in anticipation of a further decline in prices for the used market. Do you think there is much difference between a 2020 4S vs a 2021 or even 2023 4S? Seems like there weren’t many changes year to year. The same options seem to be available for all years.
Thank you for watching! I think the 2020 model year should be avoided. The 2021 model year and newer have less issues. I expect the prices of used Taycans to keep dropping, but the decline in prices will rather be in line with the rest of the market, say a 10% linear drop per year from the new base per April 2024. The Taycans are unlikely to enjoy the usual Porsche price stability for a long time to come, in fact I do not think the Taycan in its current form and shape will become an attractive "old" used car as the 911 normally is. The Taycan should rather be seen as a normal everyday car similar to the Cayennes and Panameras.
I think the expectation that depreciation rates for all EVs (not just Porsches!) will fall into line with the broader ICE market over the next several years is probably optimistic, given how rapidly the technology is developing.
I would not advise anyone to buy an EV if they expect to resell it and not take a hosing relative to what they'd get back on a comparably priced ICE car.
Fair point, the PCM is quite good though. Apple CarPlay works flawlessly. Mine has androidauto as well.
Brilliant. Thank you.
Thx for watching!
Thanks for the balanced review. Think you made nice upgrades. Myself would do gun metal to the wheels.
Still saving up for a second hand one.
I bought an RS4 instead and we have a family Tesla for cheap miles. They need to find a better way to show battery health in the used market.
Thank you for watching! The RS4 is great! Agree with your comment about the battery health.
Wow, like the review - very informativ 👍 very like the silver, is this the dolomite silver metalic? Thx
@@agilgen82 Yes, dolomite silver.
Thanks ✌️ greetings from CH
I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the new Taycan and whether it stands to go down in price as rapidly as this older version, or not. If issues have been fixed, it might retain its value - yes?
Will think about it and let you know my thoughts
Thank you for watching. I had a quick look at the new pricing structure of the 2024 Taycan (facelift). After correcting for more equipment and the bigger battery the pricing is pretty much carryover. I assume that Porsche have kept prices high to support the used car prices of the pre-facelifted model and that they will produce less Taycans (let us say on average 30,000 units per annum). While it is always difficult to predict future residuals I would not be surprised if we'd see similar price drops for the new model, i.e. -50% after three years. Let us not forget that a new Tesla Model S costs just half of a new Porsche Taycan. I recommend you get a lease offer and see what residuals the leasing company have calculated for the new Taycan and look at the total cost over 36 months incl the up front payment.
What about the used cars from porsche zentrum, they say that are checked.Is it more safe to buy from the official dealer a used taycan?
Hi, the Taycan is better than its reputation so personally I would buy from a private seller, too, but I'd make sure that the Porsche Approved warranty can be extended. Buying from a Porsche Centre will be the best option but also the most expensive option. Porsche may offer a good finance deal on used Taycans, though, balancing a bit the price disadvantage.
I never knew there were so many problems with this car. I guess it just shows their inexperience in full ev. Do the more recent models leave the factory with all those issues fixed? I’m liking the gen1 looks over gen2.
I am sure there will be other problems with Gen2, but do not let that put you off. The Taycan is great and Porsche will fix the problems if any. Only thing to moan about is the high price tag.
Wonderful video and very helpful! One question though, why the race Tex interior? Is it better than leather or just personal preference?
Hi, thx for watching. I always had Porsches with leather but wanted a different trim this time. The race Tex is actually more comfortable, warms up really fast and holds the driver firm in bends. Is highly recommendable.
That's a hell of a lot of repairs for a 3 year old car! Good job the warranty hadn't expired.
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Beautiful
... and great to drive, too! Thank you for watching!
First time viewing your channel; good video. So what was the ultimate driving force for buying this 4S? What is the low price, the build or simply that you missed the Porsche EV ?
It was an impulse after having seen how much the Taycans had dropped in price. I looked around and found this low mileage 4S and decided to buy it on the spot, subject to Porsche Service checks. The car looks like new and drives really well. Over the winter I drive my Range Rover but for the summer I like to drive a more sporty vehicle. Having had two Taycan turbos previously, I knew exactly what to look for. The 4S brings it all together at a reasonable price.
thanks for this report. I was considering buying one of these in '21 when I was looking at EV replacements for my Tesla.
Glad I didn't buy it. This level of problems reminds me of GM's ill-fated Vega.
yes, but seems to have been fixed. My Taycan runs like a Swiss clock
Thanks for the video, very useful. Porsche reliability is a myth and it seems to have extended to the Taycan's. Great looking car, though!
As you say, essential for 2nd hand buyers to be covered by an extended warranty. But what price a warranty for a 5 to 10 year old Taycan? Is it possible that today's 2nd hand car values could be further undermined when they are uneconomic for warranty cover?
Thx for watching. At present Porsche offers optional warranty up to 15 years at approx 1600EUR per annum, but with KM restrictions on the battery. This may change based on Porsche's learnings over time. If Porsche is serious about selling Taycan and Macan EVs they need to significantly improve their EV warranty policy.
there is a crazy stock of Taycan in Germany, check out mobile with over 2000 nearly new Taycan. In germany it was taken as company car as you do not have to pay the 1% tax. Company cars are only driven for 1 or 2 years in Germany, thats the reason for the huge amount. In Germany Porsche keeps the prices high and stock piles thousands of Taycan, in the US the Porsche dealer do not buy Taycan anymore because their stocks are full of Taycans. Prices are eaven much cheaper in US and UK, you get a very good one for 40 000 there. Prices in Switzerland and Germany are still way to high but will come down soon.
Agree!
Europe cars are way overpriced. UK we are lucky
I read from Chinese social media that this car has tons of small issues, AC, windows, or even power. is that same in EU market?
@@phuu186 Well, yes and no. Have a look in the video at 3m00s and again at 5m20s - here you can see all the factory recalls and what had to be made on my car. The last thing was the heater unit for the cabin which was replaced in March. Since March 2024 no other issues occured.
Thanks for the tips, very helpful 👍
That’s just too much money to spend on a car that’s not reliable. Then, if even if something breaks down, it costs more than an arm and a leg to replace…if you can find parts.
I’m a car enthusiast and like to fix things myself, so there is some level of practicality built in too. Sometimes I just look at cars like this that have multiple problems within the first few years of ownership and think, “wtf, who would spend this type of money on bad engineering?!”
Don’t get me wrong. The car - when running, is a fantastic driving experience…but when my Honda hasn’t needed any service beyond the basics for more than a decade…I start to wonder if it’s all worth it.
I love the Taycan and have always considered gettint one, but it has serious problems that they've done a good job keeping on the down low. Make sure you have a certified pre-owned warranty!
After four years Porsche has step by step fixed the issues. Today it is still the best handling electric car out there
If you live in North America, do yourself a favour, don’t go near any electric Porsche vehicles. Until they come with NACS compatibility they are impossible to road trip without major delays.
Thx, interesting info! In Europe we are fine with the standard plug.
I’d disagree, how often are people actually road tripping? If you need to road trip just rent a road trip car
It’s a similar argument to people buying a pickup truck ‘just in case’ they need to tow, or people buying an SUV ‘just in case’ they need the extra space.
At the end of the day just buy what you want and enjoy life
@puffpio ....this right here!
In the 4 years I've owned my Model S I've taken it on exactly 1 road trip longer then 300 miles. It was free, as I have free supercharging for life on that car.
I'm looking for a new EV this year and the Taycan is at the top of my list. The handling, fit and finish along with the service experience place it there. I'll rent a car if I need to take a road trip.
@@ferrynpalmer3875 Thank you for watching. I agree with you about the roadtripping. Anyways, in Europe there is a widespread charging network with superfast chargers (eg IONITY) so roadtripping is not a problem. The Taycan is so good to drive, so highly recommendable.
@@morten_hannesbo ....I yearn for the day the US takes ev infrastructure as serious as you do in Europe! The Tesla experience is phenomenal infrastructure wise. But coming from BMW, Lexus and Genesis....the service experience sucks. The fit and finish on my Model S sucks. But at the price point I can't complain too much honestly. 1st world problems. But if I can get a 2 or 3 year old Taycan for the SAME price as the same vintage Model S.....I'm switching!!
People still don't get it. ALL EVs will have resell issues, ALL. You can't fight the technical innovation that will always date high-technology products with Screens, computers & batteries. So while you're surprised about the declining price for "EV Porsche" , everyone else that knows this, isn't surprised.
Yes, sure, but maybe a surprise to you that there is little difference between the residual value of a new 2025 911 and a new 2025 Taycan. After 4 years Porsche Financial quotes a residual value of 38% for the 911 and 35% for a Taycan.
Great video and presenting. One thing to add: check radiator cooling fans. Those are located in front of front wheels inside the fenders. Front wheels shoot up rocks, sand etc directly to the fans and first you get loud crinding noise and the ultimately they get stuck and stop working. It's just a bad design by Porsche. Battery is cooled via these fans and if they don't work, you can't DC charge the car at full, or even reasonable power as the battery overheats.
Thank you🙏
Probably facelift and MacanE will even kill used Taycan prices.
Possibly it will have an effect, but I think Porsche's strategy for the new Taycan will have more effect on used Taycan prices. Thank you for watching!
My car has almost same issues, heating stopped working, battery issue, and more than that, the seat was giving squeaking noises, car was fixed under warranty
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There’s no videos of owners in the USA. Why is that? I’m a car guy and i am looking for a daily driver and I will be leasing super cars. This was one of the cars I was looking at for a daily but man it’s sad to see no one here has reviews for it
Have at look at ua-cam.com/video/XijTWhlVr0g/v-deo.htmlsi=V04w1s3ICu-4rLpX. Kyle does some great reviews of the Taycan.
Looks amazing, especially with the black wheels ! Maybe the original MSRP was "market value", just like the model S plaid when introduced, but being EV's, it may not be a brand-thing, rather an EV-thing, where all EV's are (now) experiencing huge-depreciation
EV buying tip - Low mileage does not mean much for an EV. Both batteries and electric motors can handle lots of driving without issues....
Sure, but the seats and the interior is much more fresh after 15000 km vs 150000 km😊
Currently also looking and researching to buy 2x.
Would be for the Cross 4s and possibly even the Turbo.
Any other important things to consider?
Thanks for this video!
Greetings from the Netherlands.
Hi, I would look for a low mileage Model Year 2022 or 2023. Personally I prefer the limousine over the turismo and 4x4 over RWD, but I live in CH and have a Range Rover for times when I need space.
Your passenger door looks a different colour !
Excellent!
@@DesaiPlasticSurgery 🙏
Problem is the insurance cost
I dont think your dealer will give you information about a car with the VIN Nb. which you dont own.
They can and they should. I own two other 911s and my dealer was very willing to confirm the details, knowing I will have the car serviced there.
Please tell us something about the recharge curve, and where do you recharge it and the annual ownership costs.
Sure, will do in Video 3 in May
Being from Miami, my concern is the air conditioning system. Have you heard anything about problems? Is the heating system part of the air conditioning system?
The aircon seems flawless, only the heater caused problems
Do you think there is an advantage to import a used Taycan from Germany or Netherlands to save money to Switzerland?
My personal decision would be to buy a car in the country where I live and use the car. If I would live in the EU, buying a car from another EU country could be an option but in case of any problem you are stuck because of the physical distance, language and different legal frameworks. Anyways, thank you for watching.
I’ve heard the tire life for electric cars is pretty dismal compared to ICE vehicles, maybe around 12k-20k miles depending driving habits. How has your experience been?
Hi, thx for watching! Yes, the tyres wear faster than for ICE cars. It is a function of vehicle weight and torque. The Taycan 4S needs new tyres after 12-15000 miles. A standard range Tesla M3/Y with rear-wheel drive will not need new tyres until 25-30000 miles.
The remote acces also means that in the future they can decide when and how far you drive. See WEF 15 MINUTE CITIES.
Thanks for videos. What do you think about buying through a Porsche dealer with Porsche Approved, worth it according to your experience? 😊
I never needed the Porsche Approved Warranty but I am sure it is the best warranty product for a Taycan. Pricey, yes, but Porsche's warranty reputation is good.
Ok thanks for your feed-back 😉
Nice car.
I consider to do the same next year.
The front door looks painted
They are not painted, just light effects
Did you read out the battery degradation of your Taycan before you bought it? I've seen that the Porsche Centers don't provide any information on this either. Would it not be important to have information on this for an EV that you buy used?
Would you buy from privat because cheaper and then book the warranty extension from Porsche or directly at the Porsche Center? Buying a used one from a Porsche Center would be the safest way to go I would think, but then at a rather higher purchase price.
I asked the Porsche Dealer for a read out of the battery and he said they cannot do it (what seems strange as I am sure they can). Porsche is very cautious on this subject because of the traction battery issues which I also mentioned in the video. As long as the car is under warranty it is less of an issue, but I know that there are specialists who can do a read out. In terms of buying from private sellers - I think this is fine, just have the VIN No checked before you buy and pay and do make sure that the car is still under warranty because then you can buy the extension from Porsche.
I used to check all data like battery health through the OBD2 port. I noticed that the front wheel motor are poorly used while driving.
Great video! I'm a new subscriber
Thank you for watching!
Worth mentioning that in Switzerland, for Luxury brands (Audi, Merc, BMW, have not looked into Porsche but I imagine the same) the list price is anywhere from 10k-30k Euros/Francs more than some other European countries (Germany for one). If you add options, those are more expensive as well. Quite easy to do, with the wealth in this country and also since most people lease, they only care about the monthlies. I can afford the monthly so I'll buy it, nevermind that the dealer is taking me for a ride and making a killing is a common approach, even more so here.
When used, said cars usually fall very much to european level pricing, making it appear that they suffered heavier depreciation, when in fact the prices were inflated to begin with. Even more so with BEVs. Just because Porsche thinks it's worth 170k, doesn't mean it is. Is it better than an M8? Yeah, nah.
the new generation is so much better in key areas so that it makes little sense to buy the 1st gen, even with a big price drop.
Possibly, yes, but the price difference is so big that I'd certainly think more than twice before buying a new Taycan 2024 at list price.
I‘d say let’s wait to let them show their real-world-result revision as well as their „improved“ issues.
My wife is getting the new 2025 taycan 4s or a panamera 4s e hybrid idk what she should do.
@@G82Watts Both are excellent. The Taycan will depreciate faster but have lower running cost.
Wow, other EV companies have great warranty!
Very true!
Are the recalls not free if the warranty is over? I thought recalls were free no matter the age
Yes, basically you are right, but only if the recall is legally mandatory.
@@morten_hannesbo thanks for the additional information!
Great video
Thank you🙏
And that’s why people have been waited on the next gen refresh just out. So many fixes for such an expensive Car. Wouldn’t touch a first Gen.
Most problems with Gen 1 Taycan have been solved. Will see if Gen 2 is perfect.
Hello Morten. Greetings from Switzerland and thank you for very very precious info and a great video. I am in the market for a used Taycan. Curious: what do you think of the turbo / turbo S. Somehow they seem to be less popular than the 4S. Why?
Hi, thx for watching and thank you for your question. My take on this, having owned a turbo and a turbo s cross turismo earlier; the turbos are very well equipped and relatively expensive to buy and run with heavy tyre wear and high insurance costs, and some of them have been used quite hard. I decided to buy a 4S which is a good value/price proposition, and you find good, well maintained specimens out there. My 4S accellerates 0-100 in 3.55sec, fast enough for me. The turbo s I had was just too fast for my daily driving.
@@morten_hannesbo Thank you Morten. The market is crazy at the moment, and I am quite tempted by a low km fully equipped 2020 turbo for 93 K including 3 years of Porsche Warranty and ... new tyres. Does that sound reasonable? What issues in the 2020 model year are you concerned about?
@@N807DS The first units had various bugs but they should have been fixed by now. I would, however, look for a 2021 MY or younger. Prices of turbo s are coming down, too. Do not pay more than 80-82'000 CHF for a 2021.
@@morten_hannesbo Hello again Morten. The more I watch your videos the more I see you as a real and precious asset for us car buyers. Many thanks and please keep up the great work. I love your honest, factual and professional approach., I have not yet made my move on the Taycan -fortunately- as prices are crashing again. My impression is that Porsche dealer network has initially tried to absorb the excess supply and keep prices up but they are now surrendering and letting the market play out as evidenced by massive price reductions at several Porsche dealers. What do you think?
buying a used car, perhaps out of warranty you absolutely need to consider the battery replacement cost. You have a Taycan great, what is your loan amount, now if your battery dies, how much is that? 30k? My Model S 100D is about 22k. How will you pay for that? Now you have a loan for a car and you have to pay for a new battery.
This is not a Tesla. On German EVs you can repair the battery by replacing modules. Also never heard of a case of a dead EV battery before.
@@hkad6252 I was just using my Tesla as an example. Battery's in EVs get replaced. Its inevitable. I'm guessing you don't own one or really follow the industry. That's fine.
somehow... when you look at all the problems, it doesn't seem like it's built by porsche
The many problems are embarrasing, but do not only apply to Porsche. VW, Ford, Audi, Mercedes and BMW and many more, even Toyota bZ4X have their gremlins.
@@morten_hannesbo as do many ICE cars..people seem to have forgotten Marc head bolts BMW Vanos etc etc etc
What’s the recommendation between Taycan and Eqs or even s class?
Thank you for watching! I tested the EQS SUV (see my video: 1000km Full Review of the Mercedes EQS SUV - 10,000 VIEWS!
ua-cam.com/video/7-FVu4awAv0/v-deo.html ). The EQS is like a spacious family car, the Taycan is a sports car. Both have taken huge price hits and are now available after low prices used.
I would rather buy a Hyundai for the extra long warranties than a $200k car with a 3 year warranty, especially if it is an EV.
A fine car for sure, but Hyundai ist not Porsche😉
German car makers aren't what they used to be
any regrets on not having the Sports / Cross Turismo?
No regrets at all. I had a Cross Turismo turbo s in 2021/2022 and there is not a lot more space in the trunk anyway. Besides, I like the design of the 4-door better.
Useful information. All electric cars have a "use by date" of about 10 years when the battery will need to be replaced. Low mileage electric cars can still have battery capacity loss due to aging of the battery which will happen. Ex Lease cars might have been rapid charged a lot so this might increase the chance of battery capacity loss. A battery report might tell you the battery loss is 5% which is 13 miles in the Taycan but might degrade by 10% in the next year dropping another 12 to 13 miles. Porsche state they will replace the battery after a 31% loss which is 75 mile loss of range (250 max range from 93kwh battery). With any electric car you need to think about replacing the battery or loosing money. I bought my Cupra Born brand new but expect to replace the battery after 8 years (8 year warranty) because the range will drop.
roughly how many hours/dealer visits did all of those warranty repairs require?
I only had one day where the car had to be taken to the dealer outside of the normal service work - it was to replace the cabin heater. To my knowledge all other work was made when the car was in service anyway. But do notice that my car has not had a new battery - many of those owners affected by a traction battery change had some poor service experience and long repair time - even weeks or months.
It is still expensive. It’s not like it went from 100k to 30k.
It is a Porsche😊
@@morten_hannesbo is it like BMW, bring my wallet sorta deal :D
@@MrMannyhw 😄😅
That warranty is abysmal, that priced car should have a better warranty or you're just losing out on money if anything happens. Was seriously considering it until i saw that poor warranty numbers
In Switzerland we get 4 years factory warranty as standard, thereafter you need to pay for it on an annual basis, the price being ca. 1600 CHF/Euro.
@@morten_hannesbo I want a taycan used but might just get a polestar 4 instead unless the model s gets a new design
I had a Polestar 2 for two weeks and would never go back to polestar again. Actually waiting for the new Taycan (2025) or a new facelift of the Model S.
I've just sold a GT3 and looking for something exciting juts more usable. A Turbo S Taycan seems like the beat option for me, but ongoing depecation is scary. They seem like amazing value at £85k (£165k new), but can it really drop to £40k in a few years?
Oh, no, you sold your GT3 !
A Taycan turbo s is great, but make sure the price is right and the factory warranty is valid. £85'000 may even be a little too high for a 2 1/2 year old car...
Anyways, I expect the Taycans to keep dropping in price with approx 10% per year (linearly) from the new level, i.e. if you buy one for £75'000 and drive it 10000 miles/year, expect it to lose approx. £7500 per year over the next 5 years, i.e. from £75000 to £37500, and still with a minor and very unlikely risk of a battery repair or replacement (the battery is warranted for 8 years to a max. of 100000 miles).
@@morten_hannesbo yeah it's a shame to sell it, but I couldn't use it as much as I would like.
It's a Taycan Turbo S Cross Turismo that I'm after, it think £85k is about right for very low miles, but then I'm a novice...
@@tomvcarter Good luck with the search for a Taycan! I still have a 2018 GT2 RS for the sunny days....
@@tomvcarter I had a wonderful Cross Turismo turbo s, black with grey interior. Great car but the trunk space is disappointing.
Never sell a gt3! Put 18 ways in it and daily it the rest of your extiting live with the best soundtrack ever FGS!
Biggest problem with german EVs. There is no range….low range..nowdays 200-250 miles range is a joke..
More is always better. For my usage the 200-250 miles range is absolutely fine.
I would strongly advice against it. The high voltage charger module in my car just laid off randomly over night (car was in the garage 85% charged). Porsche wants $10000 to fix it, car is a 2021 with 30000 km on the clock. Porsche just waves their arms and go “meh! Not our problem”. I’m going back to Tesla - not paying twice the price for a lesser product again..
@@TheBoaNeo A shame, sorry to hear.
@@morten_hannesbo Yes, a shame indeed. I really like the car, even with the ridiculous pricing and lower range/worse performance compared to my previous Tesla Model 3P, I was quite happy with the switch - it is just a much nicer car to drive. What gets to me is Porsches complete indifference to the damage all these failures and callback do their image - not taking care of customers who massively overpay on these cars is going to come back and bite them. I sincerely doubt the new Macan will be the success they think it will - It's twice the price of a Model Y, and technically a lesser car on all parameters except the somewhat subjective "Driving Experience", but being a SUV, I doubt a lot of potential customers really care about that. At this point the only reason to pick a Macan over a Model Y is that it'll be easier to find your car on the parking lot between all the white Teslas :) ...
How did you do the chrome delete? Were they painted or wrapped?
I had them wrapped by a specialist.
@@morten_hannesbo thanks
I’ve got a KIA EV6 GT (Amazing car) but I’m very tempted by a Taycan Turbo with the prices they’re selling for.
How firm or soft is the suspension?
@@savedfaves Comfortable enough to the firm side.
Do I hear a sligth danish accent?
Absolutely😊
Is it s reliable car long term?
Remains to be seen, mostly Porsches are
1. Buggy Software
2. Overpriced Repairs
Car range? How good it is?
Thx for watching. I will make a video incl charge test in May - but for your info: Mixed driving in spring temp: 375 km. Highway driving spring: 340 km. Highway driving winter: 300 km. Driving max 100 km in range mode in spring temp: 410 km.
Good car for a lease hire through work. Assuming that the lease company doesn’t realise it’s worth peanuts after the initial lease.
Better looking than a Tesla and more colours than the limited Tesla ones.
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As a former Taycan owner, no, there's never a good time to buy that pile of junk. Such a bore, tons of electrical/software issues, poor range, too heavy, depreciating like no other, etc. Stay far, far away.
Wow, that bad?
First time I heard a negative voice from a Taycan owner.
You sound like someone who doesn’t know how to research before you buy. Poor range? You couldn’t figure that out before you purchased? Such a bore? You didn’t test drive? Too Heavy? See previous two questions.
Honestly doesn’t sound to me like you truly even had one.
Wouldn't Happen to be on Taycan forums. Theyd probably gang up on you 😂
@@autodigitvlogs 😊
Grüezi - danke fürs Video - viel Spass no mit em Porsche
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Would much rather have a second-hand Maserati😊
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Avoid porsche electric like the plague🤮🤮🤮. Bought a 2020 porsche taycan turbo s with 8 k miles on it from Porsche USA.
Car decided to emergency brake and electrical system failure when I was going 50 mph; almost killed me. Then it was 5 months!!!! Yes 5 months in the porsche shop. They said it was “repaired” imagine being told to keep driving like its ok after the car almost killed you. Car wasn’t repaired; battery would only hold approx 70 % charge which would barely get you out of the city. Then it was at porsche shop for months. I told porsche to keep their piece of junk. It has multiple safety recalls as well including “spontaneous battery 🔥 fires. Lmfao 🤣 180 k $ piece of garbage that depreciated to 80 k $. Now I got porsche debt collectors after me when they knowingly sold a car that has potential fatal safety issues. What a great brand you are porsche. A+
O M G, sorry to hear
£120k new.. now 2 years later trade in valued at £30k.. £45k for new batteries..don’t for goodness sake have an accident it will be written off.
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