It makes some sense I suppose. But I hated it and it took away a lot of the casual yet serious nature of Robert's questions. To see him being micromanaged was super annoying.
I think it was good to see and it makes sense he has a production team that he leads and expects them to help him ask the kinds of questions he wants answered I would expect that the people he hired were also excellent thinkers, probably even the camera operator heh I'd actually like to see him interview his staff for a few minutes sometime about the making of these videos
0:36 "Can you ask that again?" Would be cool not to interrupt the interview, or at the very least edit it from the final cut. IMO the initial question was fine the interruption was rude.
I like that they didn't edit it. Lets me know mistakes are human and so are we. Are they all working together and some have different opinions on how it should sound?
6 24 21 Hey @@mitseraffej5812, Ah yes, those 15+ hour flights watching the earth and sun move through space. I remember them well. Atfer doing those flights, a 4 or 5 hour flight seemed like nothing. Be well. v
the fork in the road: 1) consult a philosopher like Terence McKenna, or, 2) be doomed to not understand until it's too late. I understand this was filmed years ago, and I understand RLK said he doesn't like the prospect of ego death, but the fork in the road remains, and the dissolution or dissipation into the surrounding environs doesn't take 'no' for an answer.
Another abstract idea that is also within this context is what are we? Am I what I am now? What I was as a child? What is going to be me/you in this eternity? What version of me/you?
It’s funny to see all these people here, who aren’t high-energy particle physicians, deride this high-energy particle physician for being a man of faith, especially one of the non-grasping, intelligent and wise kind. I’ll take his insight over their derision any day of the week.
Its easy to try to put this into our own miniscule concept of "reality". In the end the entirety and dimensions of "reality" are infinately larger and beyond our capacity in this world to comprehend. .... I believe.
@@Tinker1950 you need to understand the concept of time. There is no such thing. everything exists in that space we call the now. Time as we refer to it is an illusion. Try to get your head around it.
6 23 21 Hey again @@frasermackay9099, Agreed, some humans will need to learn the HARD way about NOW... &, the concept that time doesn't exist is scary for some humans. v
There is no logical way to combine eternity with continuity and find anything aside from insanity. In order to exist forever, one must do it in packets of existence, each being completely void of any memories of past experiences. To be personally aware of one's eternal existence would surely drive us mad. Also, it makes no logical sense to take the person we are now with us if eternity exists. All we do and know, every skill we have, every fondness we've developed are all created from this very particular physical existence. All of it useless outside this physical world. If your passion is cooking or carpentry or electronics/computers, etc, there would be zero need for any of those things "beyond". The ONLY thing I can think of that might make some sense is if some state of our consciousness exists eternally and uses an endless string of physical manifestations to experience every conceivable iteration of existence. In that case, our overriding "core self" collects and remembers every aspect of every iteration, but isn't itself any of them. It's a rough idea, but truly the only one that satisfies my issue of existing forever.
Eturnity has to be a circle, with change, or how long before love becomes hate, and hate becomes love? (Ying & Yang) you have to have light to have darkness, you have to have life to have death, and you have have an end to have a new beginning. Or you can not have the joy of child hood without the ageing and passing of those that love you. There has to be story to life, if not it whould be like having a book with only one page, and how long befor you tire of the same story? A great Bubhist saying is you must let go of attachment as that will only lead to loss and sadness in time, change must happen for all to go on and on, and on! Something to think about!
@@crusr1368 You're so wrong if you really believe love is something pure and perfect, something that exist on it's own without all the bad and dirty things we experience in everyday life. It's only a conditioning you was exposed to, probably over your entire life. People are idiots, they talk about love, but most often do completely the opposite. It's because it is all love, mixed with fears, hate, superstition, anxiety, all sorts of speculations and manipulations, depends on a person and circumstances. There is no love organ, never was and never will be, the very concept of love is a joke, a mixture of basic instincts and ideology most often, think about it.
He say we'll have a feeling of fulfilment. What feeling of fulfilment will a child of, say 5 years old have that has died of cancer or a tragic fire accident?
That was my first thought too, but I think the idea is something like people are a mirror or reflection of the divine, and somehow this mirror was broken into shards. The recombining into a whole would supposedly bring fulfillment, and the living experience I guess wouldn't be included since it's not the essential bit.
interesting question .. maybe the spirit will be happy regardless .. being with god or something. or God sends them back to learn more in their next life time on earth. (agnostic by the way)
Being and doing? I can understand being as being myself, occupying myself. Doing? Doing for someone else or doing for myself? Is there something I ought to do, I'm obligated to do, or I do willingly? What does he mean by doing? I think he means purpose but whose purpose, his or someone else's? Being is not doing. Being is timeless. Purpose involves becoming: future achievement. If by doing he means purpose then he means temporal activity and doing involves time. If by doing he means something else, what then? A planet in orbit around the sun is doing something or is being something?
As saint Paul put it: "eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man what God has prepared for those who love Him". Plenitud as one can't imagine. Let that suffice for now. It's a supernatural state, you can't expect to understand it.
Sure we can understand Paul, he was a primitive peasant, surrounded by illiterate idiots. Why are you telling this nonsense today, that's more interesting. You should know better, Paul would be ashamed of you if he could see modern times.
We know that time is relative and is a concept connected with space and its expansion. The way we move through this medium allows different people to experience time different. So, time is, in someway a compression of eternity and not an expansion of it. Within this time construct a "moment" is measured differently. If a "moment" can be of different lengths then maybe eternity is a single infinite moment. What do you think?
@@xspotbox4400 that's true but, our conditioned mind makes us believe that our Self if affected by state of the body Yoga is the process of reversing this tendency of mind
@@cvsree Yeah, could be, but we successfully replaced those complicated yoga practices with much more efficient and easy to do fitness exercises and therapies a long time ago. You can see effects on athletes in sport events, people who have nothing to do with yoga perform way better in most cases. It's possible because medicine is so advanced these days, and personal health can be greatly improved with scientific approaches and professional training systems, designed by people who actually know human body and psyche. How they do that, it's way to complicated or me to explain, there are so many things in our body and a lot of way how limbs can stretch. Don't get me wrong, I do not undermine the effects of yoga, it's a great system for keeping your body in shape, specially if you have no other means for proper exercise and want to stretch in a very small place. It's just not that efficient and healthy as professional modern technics, designed specifically for individuals and their targeted purposes.
@@cvsree You man relaxation or trance, like a altered state of awareness, but definitely not a meditation. You can't have your mind distracted by any activity if you want to experience your own mind alone. It's because moving and balancing your body takes away your brain powers, certain activities might lead into a trance, but can't calm your mind if you don't relax your body and lose all notion it exists, or as much as possible at least. Your woo is full of holes, you people are doing meditation and yoga since forever, but obviously never think about what's actually going on, this a very primitive culture, in my opinion.
Is his PhD in Wishful Thinking? Believing whatever sounds the best for him? Heaven is individualized to each persons personality, interests, and happiness? Sounds almost mythological. But otherwise brilliant folks wouldn't believe it, then, right?
The question is why the human beings wants to know where we came from and where we are going too if indeed we are going anywhere. Why are we so different than any other life form. Sadly nobody has the answer and I don't think ever will.
@@virginiatyree6705 honestly, who knows. Man thinks he is so clever and no doubt we are but perhaps we are are simply not enlightened about things that may be are bigger Than the universe. We are prisoners of time and space, so how can we visualize eternal. I often think of thought perhaps eternal is endless time it maybe eternal is something completely different. The notion of a God or some creative power begs the question where did that power originate from? again it's because we are limited by time. I don't know the answer and never will but I waste loads of time thinking about it instead of watching soap operas.
6 24 21 Hey again @@Steven_Rowe, In no way do I profess to have any answers to any of the great mysteries about the universe. I am happy I am here now. I love learning & being curious about everything. I can't remember the moment my Mummy help me to understand that I would NEVER be able to learn all that there's to learn. That day I planned to learn as much as I could; still working on that learning on a beautiful planet on which to learn. There's really no where to go because we're here. Thanks for getting back to me. v
@@virginiatyree6705 it does make you wonder why we bother learning so much, yes it does allow for so much scientific improvement to life but often we forget about right here and right now. Love will never equate to a mathematical equation and nor will hate.
6 24 21 Hey again @@Steven_Rowe, What else is there to do but learn; maybe explore the earth. Learning is more productive (imho), than watching the soap operas or follow the celebrity culture that seems to be soooo popular. I've been on a mission to try & be in the now all the time; can be a challenge @ times & getting better @ now. Agreed, love is love & math is math. Mathematics has it's own beauty & fun to know about; a hobby I have. Hate, don't have time (ha ha), for it. v
Would it make sense to ask a materialist about a belief in a personal eternity? Even if the universe is eternal in the Einstein sense, the experience of being in the universe is still temporal and moves toward an end to everything.
Funny--I was just thinking as this started how impressive it is that they put out one of these really professional, well -edited and written videos every couple days. And then ooops at 00:35. Pretty sure that was meant to be edited out. Still impressive though.
Hope we will get a chance to visit Hell, would be fun to watch those tormented souls down there and perhaps even join some of their wild parties from time to time.
@@rememberme3852 Perhaps they're not really suffering, just acting like they do, so we leave them alone and feel better about ourselves up in that stupid and frigid heavens.
@@rememberme3852 I agree, but only because there's no such place as Heaven or Nirvana either. It's hard to believe some people are never punished for great evil they do in their lives, and there's no reward for righteous ones, not in this real world and specially not after we die.
It must not be possible for humans (or, at least, all the ones we've heard from so far) to conceive of time (or whatever it's derived from) correctly. If something that undergoes changes in itself has always existed, that means an infinite amount of time has already been completed, which seems illogical and impossible. How cab infinity be completed and still be infinity? It also seems impossible for there to have been a "time" when there was absolutely nothing in existence (not even quantum fluctuations or mathematical abstractions) followed by changes of some sort (and, thus, time). For a mechanism to occur that results in something from nothing, it seems like there must be a substance, medium, or at least different states of some kind in which the mechanism is executed. It really does make me wonder whether on some level, there is a "fundamental reality" that is unchanging. The problem that immediately arises in everyone's mind when considering that possibility is that we observe change, which seems to refute that possibility. This makes me wonder whether the universe (by "universe," I mean all-that-exists) is metaphorically like a block of stone. In a block of stone, all statues that can be carved from it exist simultaneously; there's a George Washington statue, a Mama June statue, and every other statue that you can imagine existing simultaneously within the block. Maybe the universe is like that, with every possible state existing eternally/simultaneously (not really the right words since if there's no change, there is no time) along with the experiences that accompany each state. In this version of reality, experience of change and time flowing is illusory; it is simply an eternal experience that contains the concept of change and time. The problem with this view is that if no change/movement occurs, it would also have to be true that there are experiences associated with static states, something that probably can't definitively be shown to be illogical or impossible but that certainly flies in the face of how many people conceive of experience (i.e., as the "product" of or as in some sense tantamount to information processing or the execution of certain algorithms or computations).
How would a bodily resurrection fit in this? I mean we now know that time and space are linked, or amI wrong on this? So if of our resurrection body occupies space it will also be bound to time and in this way may live everlasting but certainly as Russell explained wont experience eternity. Any thoughts on this?
It seems that he took the view that the "resurrection body" is not physical in the sense that we understand as physical. The normal Christian position on the resurrection is that it is our own physical bodies that are raised onto a new or refurbished earth in the future and not at the point of death. These people believe that heaven is an intermediate state where we are with God in some spiritual form and are waiting for the resurrection in the future. I agree that if that is true that it would seem to have to be connected to time. There is a minority of people that believe that the resurrection is asending to heaven obtaining a spiritual body fit for that realm. There are several passages in the bible that could be taken this way but it becomes very complicated very quickly. Many Christians would consider this heretical to believe that the resurrection is not physical and bodily in the sense that we understand those concepts. This topic is a can of worms for Bible students and philosophers as it has massive implications for the interpretation of the Bible and for our understanding of the purpose or goal ( Greek word "telos") of creation.
🤔……conceptualizing eternity, or infinity might be impossible for finite minds. So far we seem only to be able to speculate about some sort of eternal existence. “Time” seems to be a veil or a prism that blurs and confuses everyone - physicists included.
"We just have to accept that there are realms of existence beyond our current experience" Do we? I'm pretty sure science doesn't work like that. Are you sure this guy is a physicist?
It's more like being in one moment, that contains all moments. Think of "Mephistofele" the opera based on Faust. Faust, once redeemed, gets in Heaven what he was after in his deal with the devil, which is the ability to say: "O perfect moment, stay!"
If we are eternal spirits does that not mean we've already existed for eternity stretching back in the past? Does anyone today remember panicking during the "first" eternity?
St Maximus the Confessor described that life as a dynamic state of "ever-moving repose." Because God is infinite, there is inexhaustible progress for those in Him and Him in them.
Worshiping a master is akin to slavery. Unshackle yourself and live your brief existence in freedom. Many of the mythical dogma will evaporate once old people like me return to stardust. LOL. Wishing the best to the young generation that will embrace a humanistic path.
All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never-ending cycles all things and phenomena.”- Nikola Tesla, Man’s Greatest Achievement, 1907 (1)(2) As you can see, Tesla was aware of ancient concepts and the correlation it had with the science he was working on -using sanskrit worlds like “akasha,” and “prana” to describe the force and matter that exists all around us. These words come from the Upanishads (a collection of Vedic texts) "The aakaash is not destructible, it is the primordial absolute substratum that creates cosmic matter and hence the properties of aakaash are not found in the material properties that are in a sense relative. The aakaash is the eternally existent, superfluid reality, for which creation and destruction are inapplicable.” - (Idham thadhakshare parame vyoman. Parame vyoman) - Paramahamsa Tewari, Engineer, Physicist and Inventor. (source) Nikola Tesla
Tesla was indoctrinated with a blend of very primitive Catholic and Orthodox Christianity from his birth. Then he got drunk while studying hard abroad and became the very best engineer the world has ever seen, but totally lost his mind in old age, when he supposedly wrote that BS nonsense and never invented anything useful ever again.
your perception of time or eternity, is judged by how we circle a star. in a universe containing trillions of stars. that being said... eternity is a really long time. or as kids would say, it's a minute!! i mean literally a minute!!
Eternity. I was asleep for 13.8 billion years. And when I die it will be black and cold and silent again, forever. But that's nothing compared to my first marriage.
What if in an higher realm of existence, there would be infinitely many things to do,? so we'd never run out of doing new projects, accomplishing and experiencing new things?
So everything we could come up with or do would be absolutely meaningless and useless? No, thank you, these things have value only if life is a mysterious and unique, temporal experience.
@@xspotbox4400 Not necessarily. I think the notion that things lose their value the more of them exist is a result of our relatively limited human perception of existence. Maybe we reach a state of being that lets us enjoy one and the same activity/experience as intensely as the first time, infinitely many times. That also seems to tie in with the concept of being "outside" of time (eternal) rather than existing in an everlasting progression of time.
@@aw55550 We will all reach that mysterious state your babbling about, it's called death, and you will not enjoy anything no more. How can you experience anything when nothing is changing, you might just as well be considered as a part of natural mechanics. We call the repetitive algorithm a bot in computer games terminology.
How about if we change the "E" in Einstein's equation E=MC^2 for information/energy since that everything is made our of information in the form of energy. Since a moment is eternal (C) we end up with this equation : The collision between two moments (C^2) causes (*) a material reality (M) (reencarnation) made out (=) of conscient information (E)
I've wondered for many years if God the Father is lonely and maybe trapped because there's no other being like Him in existence except for His only begotten son, which is Himself, just as we all may be. So, it would scare, even terrify me when I would think that if I'm God and in every living thing, then the undeniable and horrible truth would be that I am and have always been alone. But then the all knowing and wise God had a plan of salvation which I believe would eventually fix His loneliness situation, if that was the case. The situation of Him being alone without another of His kind, a God being, of both a separate Father and Son of God, yet still being only one God, or maybe that combination of existence is enough for God to not feel lonely, if He even does feel lonely. The following might in some way apply to God: Genesis 2:20-22 King James Version 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. 21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
The universe is eternal therefore you came out of eternity when you were born and you will go back when you die. Then....rinse and repeat...forever. The experience of eternity therefore is only available while alive - you are experiencing it now; the eternity of being dead is not an experience (which is good because you can be "dead" for a long "time"). And so, we experience eternity, a bit at a time (a life), repeatedly....forever... with great chunks of "time" in between. I say "time" because it's not really time if you don't experience it.
Why is this very brilliant gentleman having such difficulty answering the question regarding projects, activities, boredom etc in the higher realms of spiritual existence…I would imaging that in these infinite and multi varied realms where our individual identities continue yet in a much more evolved state and with unimaginable limitlessness that we would have unlimited options for projects, things to explore and experience…perhaps even choosing to return to an Earthly existence or an existence on some other level or experience….There would be more to do or not to do not less… I bet you could even find a pub or three with good live acoustic music….a friend of John Cleese pondered not just about life after death but “iOS there sex after death?”….I bet there is…and its probably better than anything we have here on Earth…✌️😄🍻
1 Corinthians 2:9 New International Version 9 However, as it is written: “What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived”[a]- the things God has prepared for those who love him-
Let me guess the answer to your riddle, it's a canned giraffe you're describing. First i thought it could be a helicopter between two slices of bread, but the last line was an obvious clue to me, you are talking about giraffe meal.
I am touched by your quest to look deep into the reality of existence . Your answers may be in the Vedic literature . Just one clarification again from the Vedic scriptures. If you experience new and enlightening bliss every neno second of your relationship with god ( with complete fullfilment) why and how will this be boring even with your nature )
Did you ever seen any Vedic text for yourself? Google it, then tell me what can you find practical and useful in that confuses poetry today. Give me one example and i'll take your idea seriously, a single one. Ancient scriptures are a wonderful historical document, but you people make them worthless and stupid by quoting them in modern times.
Eternity means that state which is beyond time . In Bhagbat Gita Lord Krishna says we are etarnal beings . Now in science perspective scientists do not agree that we are souls but at the same time they can not explain what is free will ?& what is conciousness? In Bhagbat Gita Lord Krishna says we are pure blissfull conciousness also we are not our body rather we are part and parcel of Him ( Lord Krishna).
Yes. The living, the subject of knowledge is in principle invisible. That's the difficulty with self recognition, because it is exactly about the invisible. Like freedom, that you can only have or be in. Nobody ever has seen freedom, and science can only see determined things! Science can not see the living, the subject of knowledge. Science is its tool for self intervention for reason of self transformation and realization. What science can see looking back in past, recognizing there only some unpersonal forces or energies in the beginning, is not the living, it's something like the "dead corpse" of the living, spoken with Nietzsche. ✌️
This interview just shows that heaven is a man made construct as god is . As the song go's < Everyone wonts to go to heaven BUT no-one wonts to die > To be dead is no different then what was like before we were born
E então se substituímos o "E" de energia na fórmula de Einstein E=m*c^2 por : Informação/Energia Já que tudo é informação na forma de energia E já que o momento (C) É eterno, ficamos com a fórmula : Informação /energia = choque de dois momentos ( C^2) que causa (*) ,uma realidade material (M) (reencarnação)
A classic straw man idea - "eternity, what would it like?". As if the concept has some meaning for homo sapiens with a lifespan of 70 years. To make some progress on the absurd proposition that eternity has some meaning for man, they have to start up the conjecture generator. And this all assumes that there is a god, heaven etc. It would be more productive simply to point out the improbability of that argument and get on with our lives. The physicist believes in the resurrection - "why" would be a decent question. As a scientist who is supposed to be driven by evidence he'd have as much difficulty with that as he has with trying to imagine how "eternity" could be good.
@@virginiatyree6705 no. That wud be something though. Imagine taking 1000 people. Stopping all their hearts at the same time. Then either drawing s symbol or revealing a symbol. A huge symbol on the floor. Then restart hearts ( cross fingers u don’t lose any ) Then see who can draw/identify the symbol. It could prove awareness leaves the body. What do u think?
Some of it made sense. I understood eternity as being beyond the realm of the time we physically experience. If God existed before anything physical, we will also experience eternity in life after death
It's impossible to understand something that is outside our temporal existence. We just don't have the mental reference points. The best I could do is what they used to say on BSG, "All this has happened before and will happen again".
Read more science fiction and less fiction, so you could see for yourself we can very well imagine many things outside temporal existence. Some of them might turn out to be true, good science can do that to a fiction, bad fiction can't and never will.
@@xspotbox4400 I love science fiction and you are correct, we can imagine almost anything. My point was that we cannot know and what we imagine cannot be tested.
@@TheBruces56 If science, it can be verified by experiment, we can prove things by direct or indirect observations and measurements. How is it possible, science means some facts are placed inside a hierarchical structure of knowledge, therefore we know what it can be because of verified facts around that new hypothesis Ir to say it in other words, all scientific theories are continuations from previous, more basic theories, it's not science if idea stand on its own, without any previous verifiable notion about it.
@@xspotbox4400 I was referring to any reality that may be outside our plane of existence and thus can't be observed or tested. I would point out that over history many scientific "facts" have been found to be wrong and replaced. Newton's theories were written in stone for several hundred years until Einstein came along.
@@TheBruces56 Scientific facts are always correct and can never change, since they're established by all kinds of experiments. Reality can change, we can't know how universe will evolve in far future, but that doesn't mean science of today was wrong. Scientific knowledge is a structure, it begins with very elementary facts and build up upon them, as far as experimental evidence allow. Newton's ideas are still written in stone, now more than ever, Einstein only expanded on his principles. He was a real deal, Newton knew he can't explain what kind of force is working on a distance, so he didn't even try to include unknown into his formula. He didn't do laws, only principles.
Nothing makes sense. We could say that's normal because we are very limited by our senses but we have instruments to show us the things we miss. And yet, it gets even more weird the more we know. Why is that?? It's like reality goes beyond of what any brain can imagine or think.
You don’t need to be a physicist to understand reality. Those guys are just good at math. Reality has two parts: what life really is, and what you want it to be. So for most people, life is a mixture of stoicism and idealism. Men tend to be more stoic, and women are more idealistic. So reality is where those two philosophies meet, within the bounds of love. Outside the bounds of love, there’s not much compromise. But when love is seen as an idealistic combination of masculine strength and feminine beauty, then both sides are drawn to love not as an end in itself, but as a form of religious idealism. Religion is organized love. And marriage is idealized love. So after love has been organized, and then idealized, stoicism can serve as a foundation upon which further hopes can be founded. So reality is the product of idealized love, which manifests itself through reciprocity among all the members of a community, leading towards a balanced stoic optimism, which permeates everything.
Ultimately I don't think it is important if we can conceptualize eternity or not, we are not biologically eternal creatures, everything we know about us is pretty conclusive about this point. To withstand eternity, to live for an eternity, something fundamental about us, about our mind, would need to change, so the central question we should be asking ourselves is: "Are we ready to accept a transformation that will change us so fundamentally in exchange for the opportunity to last forever?", personally I think this kind of transformation sounds very similar to death, because whatever comes out from the other end will no longer be human, or more precisely it will no longer be I.
Eternity is physics, when the universe is no longer capable of supporting life, the only thing left is the fundamental laws of physics that operate in it. That's why physics is the king of all knowledge.
Physics is not thinking, it's a shortened instrumental thinking, and it doesn't explain world, it's self intervention of life for reason of self transformation. ✌️
Eternity is exactly the same feeling and being as you felt/experienced before you were born: infinity of nothing. There, we have proof of that by our very being, our experience already. Next question.
@@francesco5581 No, rather you should get your head around what I stated. Before you were born was part of the infinity. Nothing about going back in time if indeed there is any timescale of infinity. Infinity has no time.
@@fortuner123 On a materialistic standpoint infinity must have a time and so cannot be explained since you go backwards without an end. And that is not acceptable for science. There would be always the question "What there was before ??". Attempts to solve the question, even by Hawking-Turok, gave the result that whatever mathematical approach you use the result is always an empty space. Is one of those concepts that is without answer, not your fault of course, but dont try to give answers that dont exist.
You have to release about heaven is it won’t be anything like earth all you will feel is loved and at home you will feel no pain no sadness you will feel like you belong because you do it’s your soul that’s going home the flesh dies but the soul goes on so the “ wonder” goes away because you made it ur home you can rest and praise god along with other ppl
Childhood , old age and every life throughout time or the memories that were good Just like Elijah who was John the dipper and is now here again. Hello! Any virgins awakening yet?
Latest Rick&Morty cartoon was on this topic. Also the bible. There is order above where God is, and then the submerged chaos where law reigns. The abyss. Creation happens on that surface. The interface. Where the above faces the below. Existence and eternity will always form on that surface where order is made out of chaos, where we meet our challenge of creation. Where we procreate and have eternity in it. Where duality interfaces, like yin and yang, also death and resurrection.
@@xspotbox4400 The great about Rick&Morty is that it is funny all the way down to every detail. The more you get the funnier it gets. I have been laughing at it all day. And if you care to look. Deep philosophical ideas in 20 minutes of fun. What makes it great that it is structured around powerful ideas. I am referring to Season 5 Episode 1
@@brandursimonsen4427 Why not, you managed to raise my interest for Ricky and Morty show, will check when i find the time, and perhaps thank you for a good tip :) Are they like Bivas and Buthead?
There’s an evolutionary reason why people never feel satisfied. Our ancestors were the ones who kept learning more, kept eating more food, kept accumulating more wealth, kept reproducing offspring. The ones who were satisfied couldn’t compete with those who weren’t.
The bible teaches that in resurrection bodies we will live in a new heavens and new earth. There believers will fulfill what God required of Adam and Eve originally. We will work to care for the earth and discover with delight what God has created. This is what Jesus offers.
"Robert, can you ask the question about eternity again but this time hold up this bag of Doritos? Remember they're cool ranch!"
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this comment is awesome
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I don’t know how to feel seeing Robert directed
It makes some sense I suppose. But I hated it and it took away a lot of the casual yet serious nature of Robert's questions. To see him being micromanaged was super annoying.
Lol, was strange, must be some reason like a joke?
I think it was good to see and it makes sense
he has a production team that he leads and expects them to help him ask the kinds of questions he wants answered
I would expect that the people he hired were also excellent thinkers, probably even the camera operator heh
I'd actually like to see him interview his staff for a few minutes sometime about the making of these videos
0:36 "Can you ask that again?" Would be cool not to interrupt the interview, or at the very least edit it from the final cut. IMO the initial question was fine the interruption was rude.
Very rude.. I was like.. wtf?
It sounded like they were trying to get him to ask the question better. Some asshole decided to cough into a microphone so we couldn't get the advice.
I like that they didn't edit it. Lets me know mistakes are human and so are we. Are they all working together and some have different opinions on how it should sound?
Agreed
"There's more to time than our subjective experience of it." Wise words.
I've experienced what felt like eternity at sales meetings in my previous job.😵
You should try an airline “Emergency Procedures” or “ Human Factors “ course, or worse still a 15 hour long haul flight.
6 24 21 Hey @@mitseraffej5812, Ah yes, those 15+ hour flights watching the earth and sun move through space. I remember them well. Atfer doing those flights, a 4 or 5 hour flight seemed like nothing. Be well. v
Each moment is an eternity in itself
the fork in the road: 1) consult a philosopher like Terence McKenna, or, 2) be doomed to not understand until it's too late.
I understand this was filmed years ago, and I understand RLK said he doesn't like the prospect of ego death, but the fork in the road remains, and the dissolution or dissipation into the surrounding environs doesn't take 'no' for an answer.
The best answer is simple - I don’t know, and I can’t know. Ask something that is answerable if you seek answers.
That's the problem with the materialist cult today.
They're not seeking.
You think seeking answers is only asking what's answerable.
You don't see?
While in this world all we do is ultimately a waste of time, in the eternal world all we do is a joyous pastime. Must know. Great Russell Stannard.
Another abstract idea that is also within this context is what are we? Am I what I am now? What I was as a child? What is going to be me/you in this eternity? What version of me/you?
It’s funny to see all these people here, who aren’t high-energy particle physicians, deride this high-energy particle physician for being a man of faith, especially one of the non-grasping, intelligent and wise kind. I’ll take his insight over their derision any day of the week.
Its easy to try to put this into our own miniscule concept of "reality". In the end the entirety and dimensions of "reality" are infinately larger and beyond our capacity in this world to comprehend. ....
I believe.
We can imagine eternity.
Eternity is Now. Now is eternal. All is eternal
6 21 21 Hey fraser, Now, is all we have; no past, no future, only NOW. Lucky US. v
Utterly meaningless remark.
@@Tinker1950 you need to understand the concept of time. There is no such thing. everything exists in that space we call the now. Time as we refer to it is an illusion. Try to get your head around it.
6 23 21 Hey again @@frasermackay9099, Agreed, some humans will need to learn the HARD way about NOW... &, the concept that time doesn't exist is scary for some humans. v
@@virginiatyree6705 yes it’s tricky. You have to abandon logic. But my wife tells me that should be easy for me 😂
There is no logical way to combine eternity with continuity and find anything aside from insanity. In order to exist forever, one must do it in packets of existence, each being completely void of any memories of past experiences. To be personally aware of one's eternal existence would surely drive us mad. Also, it makes no logical sense to take the person we are now with us if eternity exists. All we do and know, every skill we have, every fondness we've developed are all created from this very particular physical existence. All of it useless outside this physical world. If your passion is cooking or carpentry or electronics/computers, etc, there would be zero need for any of those things "beyond". The ONLY thing I can think of that might make some sense is if some state of our consciousness exists eternally and uses an endless string of physical manifestations to experience every conceivable iteration of existence. In that case, our overriding "core self" collects and remembers every aspect of every iteration, but isn't itself any of them. It's a rough idea, but truly the only one that satisfies my issue of existing forever.
Good comment
Eternity is what it feels like when your stuck in a job you hate
Are you saying that we can get tired of eternity if so, I think it might be true
When u love and are in love, eternity is wonderful. I want to spend eternity with family. God is Love. Eternity is full of love...
Eturnity has to be a circle, with change, or how long before love becomes hate, and hate becomes love? (Ying & Yang) you have to have light to have darkness, you have to have life to have death, and you have have an end to have a new beginning. Or you can not have the joy of child hood without the ageing and passing of those that love you. There has to be story to life, if not it whould be like having a book with only one page, and how long befor you tire of the same story? A great Bubhist saying is you must let go of attachment as that will only lead to loss and sadness in time, change must happen for all to go on and on, and on! Something to think about!
“God is love?” Apparently you have not read the Bible. Think slavery, genocide, child abuse and you will find god smiling and content.
God is love, but love is a composite set of different and variable emotional states. Sounds like your God is a schizophrenic sexual maniac.
@@xspotbox4400 So love contains hate n anger, etc.
bull . u r sick if u love like that...get hlp.
love is pure...
@@crusr1368 You're so wrong if you really believe love is something pure and perfect, something that exist on it's own without all the bad and dirty things we experience in everyday life.
It's only a conditioning you was exposed to, probably over your entire life. People are idiots, they talk about love, but most often do completely the opposite. It's because it is all love, mixed with fears, hate, superstition, anxiety, all sorts of speculations and manipulations, depends on a person and circumstances.
There is no love organ, never was and never will be, the very concept of love is a joke, a mixture of basic instincts and ideology most often, think about it.
I thought the shot of Robert being directed showed how truly curious he is about these things. And how good he is at articulating his curiosity.
Eternity is: every 100.000 years, a bird take away a sand grain from earth, this will happen until the whole earth is gone.
Thats eternity.
I wish Tim Winter could be invited to speak in this channel. His ideas on spirituality are astonishing.
He say we'll have a feeling of fulfilment. What feeling of fulfilment will a child of, say 5 years old have that has died of cancer or a tragic fire accident?
That was my first thought too, but I think the idea is something like people are a mirror or reflection of the divine, and somehow this mirror was broken into shards. The recombining into a whole would supposedly bring fulfillment, and the living experience I guess wouldn't be included since it's not the essential bit.
interesting question .. maybe the spirit will be happy regardless .. being with god or something.
or God sends them back to learn more in their next life time on earth.
(agnostic by the way)
A journey through the same day...and they say hooray...like eyes that rise and die in clay...and cries like November in the midst of May
Being and doing? I can understand being as being myself, occupying myself. Doing? Doing for someone else or doing for myself? Is there something I ought to do, I'm obligated to do, or I do willingly? What does he mean by doing? I think he means purpose but whose purpose, his or someone else's?
Being is not doing. Being is timeless. Purpose involves becoming: future achievement. If by doing he means purpose then he means temporal activity and doing involves time. If by doing he means something else, what then?
A planet in orbit around the sun is doing something or is being something?
As saint Paul put it: "eye has not seen nor ear heard, nor has it entered into the heart of man what God has prepared for those who love Him". Plenitud as one can't imagine. Let that suffice for now. It's a supernatural state, you can't expect to understand it.
Sure we can understand Paul, he was a primitive peasant, surrounded by illiterate idiots. Why are you telling this nonsense today, that's more interesting. You should know better, Paul would be ashamed of you if he could see modern times.
I like the talk , not easy to address
Loving these! thanks for posting the full long form interview
Eternity is existence without beginning and without an end. Time has begun within eternity and will continue without end during eternity.
I'm definitely in love whit these mini series😍😍
The tree explained: I am eternal life!
Life is able to pull itself even out of the nothing, that means eternity of life.
We know that time is relative and is a concept connected with space and its expansion. The way we move through this medium allows different people to experience time different. So, time is, in someway a compression of eternity and not an expansion of it. Within this time construct a "moment" is measured differently. If a "moment" can be of different lengths then maybe eternity is a single infinite moment.
What do you think?
Our Self is a changeless consciousness
Time is just a measure of change
So, when we realize our true Self, we are beyond Time
So your body has nothing to do with the way you feel deep inside, good for you, kid.
@@xspotbox4400 that's true but, our conditioned mind makes us believe that our Self if affected by state of the body
Yoga is the process of reversing this tendency of mind
@@cvsree Yeah, could be, but we successfully replaced those complicated yoga practices with much more efficient and easy to do fitness exercises and therapies a long time ago. You can see effects on athletes in sport events, people who have nothing to do with yoga perform way better in most cases.
It's possible because medicine is so advanced these days, and personal health can be greatly improved with scientific approaches and professional training systems, designed by people who actually know human body and psyche. How they do that, it's way to complicated or me to explain, there are so many things in our body and a lot of way how limbs can stretch.
Don't get me wrong, I do not undermine the effects of yoga, it's a great system for keeping your body in shape, specially if you have no other means for proper exercise and want to stretch in a very small place. It's just not that efficient and healthy as professional modern technics, designed specifically for individuals and their targeted purposes.
@@xspotbox4400 yoga is not just physical poses. Stretching is just an aid for better meditation
Meditation leads to Self realization
@@cvsree You man relaxation or trance, like a altered state of awareness, but definitely not a meditation.
You can't have your mind distracted by any activity if you want to experience your own mind alone. It's because moving and balancing your body takes away your brain powers, certain activities might lead into a trance, but can't calm your mind if you don't relax your body and lose all notion it exists, or as much as possible at least.
Your woo is full of holes, you people are doing meditation and yoga since forever, but obviously never think about what's actually going on, this a very primitive culture, in my opinion.
Is his PhD in Wishful Thinking? Believing whatever sounds the best for him? Heaven is individualized to each persons personality, interests, and happiness? Sounds almost mythological. But otherwise brilliant folks wouldn't believe it, then, right?
The question is why the human beings wants to know where we came from and where we are going too if indeed we are going anywhere.
Why are we so different than any other life form.
Sadly nobody has the answer and I don't think ever will.
There's no where to go. Now, we're here. v
@@virginiatyree6705 honestly, who knows.
Man thinks he is so clever and no doubt we are but perhaps we are are simply not enlightened about things that may be are bigger
Than the universe.
We are prisoners of time and space, so how can we visualize eternal.
I often think of thought perhaps eternal is endless time it maybe eternal is something completely different.
The notion of a God or some creative power begs the question where did that power originate from? again it's because we are limited by time.
I don't know the answer and never will but I waste loads of time thinking about it instead of watching soap operas.
6 24 21 Hey again @@Steven_Rowe, In no way do I profess to have any answers to any of the great mysteries about the universe. I am happy I am here now. I love learning & being curious about everything. I can't remember the moment my Mummy help me to understand that I would NEVER be able to learn all that there's to learn. That day I planned to learn as much as I could; still working on that learning on a beautiful planet on which to learn. There's really no where to go because we're here. Thanks for getting back to me. v
@@virginiatyree6705 it does make you wonder why we bother learning so much, yes it does allow for so much scientific improvement to life but often we forget about right here and right now.
Love will never equate to a mathematical equation and nor will hate.
6 24 21 Hey again @@Steven_Rowe, What else is there to do but learn; maybe explore the earth. Learning is more productive (imho), than watching the soap operas or follow the celebrity culture that seems to be soooo popular. I've been on a mission to try & be in the now all the time; can be a challenge @ times & getting better @ now. Agreed, love is love & math is math. Mathematics has it's own beauty & fun to know about; a hobby I have. Hate, don't have time (ha ha), for it. v
Everyone lives their own life and is individual. Everyone is at different stages of their life. We all see things differently.
I can see why you did not ask a materialist this question.
Would it make sense to ask a materialist about a belief in a personal eternity? Even if the universe is eternal in the Einstein sense, the experience of being in the universe is still temporal and moves toward an end to everything.
"That's what death is going to be like--and, oh, what fun it will be" --philosopher Gerald Heard on his experiences with LSD.
What did the guy said to him at the very beginning? Why did he rephrase the question?
Funny--I was just thinking as this started how impressive it is that they put out one of these really professional, well -edited and written videos every couple days. And then ooops at 00:35. Pretty sure that was meant to be edited out. Still impressive though.
We'll have eternity to travel a never ending universe. That's attractive.
Hope we will get a chance to visit Hell, would be fun to watch those tormented souls down there and perhaps even join some of their wild parties from time to time.
I wouldn't like to see anyone or anything suffering.
@@rememberme3852 Perhaps they're not really suffering, just acting like they do, so we leave them alone and feel better about ourselves up in that stupid and frigid heavens.
If an higher power exists out there and it is what humanity believes it to be then there is no such place as hell.
@@rememberme3852 I agree, but only because there's no such place as Heaven or Nirvana either.
It's hard to believe some people are never punished for great evil they do in their lives, and there's no reward for righteous ones, not in this real world and specially not after we die.
How sad. The fear of death and narcissistic longing for personal eternity lead into self-serving mythologizing.
What’s even sadder is arrogant egotism expressed by those without self-awareness.
Publius great comment!
It must not be possible for humans (or, at least, all the ones we've heard from so far) to conceive of time (or whatever it's derived from) correctly. If something that undergoes changes in itself has always existed, that means an infinite amount of time has already been completed, which seems illogical and impossible. How cab infinity be completed and still be infinity? It also seems impossible for there to have been a "time" when there was absolutely nothing in existence (not even quantum fluctuations or mathematical abstractions) followed by changes of some sort (and, thus, time). For a mechanism to occur that results in something from nothing, it seems like there must be a substance, medium, or at least different states of some kind in which the mechanism is executed. It really does make me wonder whether on some level, there is a "fundamental reality" that is unchanging. The problem that immediately arises in everyone's mind when considering that possibility is that we observe change, which seems to refute that possibility. This makes me wonder whether the universe (by "universe," I mean all-that-exists) is metaphorically like a block of stone. In a block of stone, all statues that can be carved from it exist simultaneously; there's a George Washington statue, a Mama June statue, and every other statue that you can imagine existing simultaneously within the block. Maybe the universe is like that, with every possible state existing eternally/simultaneously (not really the right words since if there's no change, there is no time) along with the experiences that accompany each state. In this version of reality, experience of change and time flowing is illusory; it is simply an eternal experience that contains the concept of change and time. The problem with this view is that if no change/movement occurs, it would also have to be true that there are experiences associated with static states, something that probably can't definitively be shown to be illogical or impossible but that certainly flies in the face of how many people conceive of experience (i.e., as the "product" of or as in some sense tantamount to information processing or the execution of certain algorithms or computations).
How would a bodily resurrection fit in this? I mean we now know that time and space are linked, or amI wrong on this? So if of our resurrection body occupies space it will also be bound to time and in this way may live everlasting but certainly as Russell explained wont experience eternity.
Any thoughts on this?
It seems that he took the view that the "resurrection body" is not physical in the sense that we understand as physical. The normal Christian position on the resurrection is that it is our own physical bodies that are raised onto a new or refurbished earth in the future and not at the point of death. These people believe that heaven is an intermediate state where we are with God in some spiritual form and are waiting for the resurrection in the future. I agree that if that is true that it would seem to have to be connected to time. There is a minority of people that believe that the resurrection is asending to heaven obtaining a spiritual body fit for that realm. There are several passages in the bible that could be taken this way but it becomes very complicated very quickly. Many Christians would consider this heretical to believe that the resurrection is not physical and bodily in the sense that we understand those concepts. This topic is a can of worms for Bible students and philosophers as it has massive implications for the interpretation of the Bible and for our understanding of the purpose or goal ( Greek word "telos") of creation.
Without time, how do we define progression or movements of any kind in the eternal realm?
Exactly. Maybe we would just perceive “time” differently. Some way.
🤔……conceptualizing eternity, or infinity might be impossible for finite minds. So far we seem only to be able to speculate about some sort of eternal existence. “Time” seems to be a veil or a prism that blurs and confuses everyone - physicists included.
"We just have to accept that there are realms of existence beyond our current experience"
Do we? I'm pretty sure science doesn't work like that.
Are you sure this guy is a physicist?
And to add to that, how is it possible those would be realms have any connection to or bearing on this existence?
It's more like being in one moment, that contains all moments. Think of "Mephistofele" the opera based on Faust. Faust, once redeemed, gets in Heaven what he was after in his deal with the devil, which is the ability to say: "O perfect moment, stay!"
How long do we have to wait to find out?
I hope I'm anywhere near as badass as Dr. Stanard at that age!
It kind of ended on a cliff hanger but it's a great video. Thanks.
If we are eternal spirits does that not mean we've already existed for eternity stretching back in the past? Does anyone today remember panicking during the "first" eternity?
Yes, I remember panicking through the first eternity. It wasn't fun or pretty. v
People that add NDE say they can go to the past, present and future very easily in Heaven or higher dimension
St Maximus the Confessor described that life as a dynamic state of "ever-moving repose." Because God is infinite, there is inexhaustible progress for those in Him and Him in them.
We all crossed eternity to get here
This conversation is extremely interesting.
Worshiping a master is akin to slavery. Unshackle yourself and live your brief existence in freedom. Many of the mythical dogma will evaporate once old people like me return to stardust. LOL. Wishing the best to the young generation that will embrace a humanistic path.
All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never-ending cycles all things and phenomena.”- Nikola Tesla, Man’s Greatest Achievement, 1907 (1)(2)
As you can see, Tesla was aware of ancient concepts and the correlation it had with the science he was working on -using sanskrit worlds like “akasha,” and “prana” to describe the force and matter that exists all around us. These words come from the Upanishads (a collection of Vedic texts)
"The aakaash is not destructible, it is the primordial absolute substratum that creates cosmic matter and hence the properties of aakaash are not found in the material properties that are in a sense relative. The aakaash is the eternally existent, superfluid reality, for which creation and destruction are inapplicable.” - (Idham thadhakshare parame vyoman. Parame vyoman) - Paramahamsa Tewari, Engineer, Physicist and Inventor. (source)
Nikola Tesla
Tesla was indoctrinated with a blend of very primitive Catholic and Orthodox Christianity from his birth. Then he got drunk while studying hard abroad and became the very best engineer the world has ever seen, but totally lost his mind in old age, when he supposedly wrote that BS nonsense and never invented anything useful ever again.
This conversation sounds like the LDS (Mormon) view. Answers all his questions about what he'll do for eternity. Pretty good stuff sir.
your perception of time or eternity, is judged by how we circle a star. in a universe containing trillions of stars. that being said... eternity is a really long time. or as kids would say, it's a minute!! i mean literally a minute!!
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6 21 21 Hello to the Team, Thanks for the post. Eventually we'll all find out about eternity/forever. Stay safe, keep calm, & be well everyone. v
Eternity. I was asleep for 13.8 billion years. And when I die it will be black and cold and silent again, forever. But that's nothing compared to my first marriage.
It seems to me that eternity should go in both directions future and past, not only 13.7 billions years. In any case it’s beyond my understanding
yeah must have been a very hard marriage to have sunk a man into such a nihilistic stride !!
@@francesco5581 La frivolezza, my Italian friend! Comedy is Divine! 🙂
@@felipeblin8616 That's what I say when people ask me why I got married: "It's beyond my comprehension!" 😄
@@thereligionofrationality8257 :)
What if in an higher realm of existence, there would be infinitely many things to do,? so we'd never run out of doing new projects, accomplishing and experiencing new things?
So everything we could come up with or do would be absolutely meaningless and useless? No, thank you, these things have value only if life is a mysterious and unique, temporal experience.
@@xspotbox4400 Not necessarily. I think the notion that things lose their value the more of them exist is a result of our relatively limited human perception of existence. Maybe we reach a state of being that lets us enjoy one and the same activity/experience as intensely as the first time, infinitely many times. That also seems to tie in with the concept of being "outside" of time (eternal) rather than existing in an everlasting progression of time.
@@aw55550 We will all reach that mysterious state your babbling about, it's called death, and you will not enjoy anything no more. How can you experience anything when nothing is changing, you might just as well be considered as a part of natural mechanics. We call the repetitive algorithm a bot in computer games terminology.
How about if we change the "E" in Einstein's equation E=MC^2 for information/energy since that everything is made our of information in the form of energy.
Since a moment is eternal (C) we end up with this equation :
The collision between two moments (C^2) causes (*) a material reality (M) (reencarnation) made out (=) of conscient information (E)
Energy losses are heath and noise, it takes work and memory to shape energy flow into useful information.
it's like kids of 4 years old speaking about a book they have no idea what it contains.
I've wondered for many years if God the Father is lonely and maybe trapped because there's no other being like Him in existence except for His only begotten son, which is Himself, just as we all may be. So, it would scare, even terrify me when I would think that if I'm God and in every living thing, then the undeniable and horrible truth would be that I am and have always been alone. But then the all knowing and wise God had a plan of salvation which I believe would eventually fix His loneliness situation, if that was the case. The situation of Him being alone without another of His kind, a God being, of both a separate Father and Son of God, yet still being only one God, or maybe that combination of existence is enough for God to not feel lonely, if He even does feel lonely.
The following might in some way apply to God:
Genesis 2:20-22
King James Version
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
The universe is eternal therefore you came out of eternity when you were born and you will go back when you die. Then....rinse and repeat...forever. The experience of eternity therefore is only available while alive - you are experiencing it now; the eternity of being dead is not an experience (which is good because you can be "dead" for a long "time"). And so, we experience eternity, a bit at a time (a life), repeatedly....forever... with great chunks of "time" in between. I say "time" because it's not really time if you don't experience it.
There is a procession of events in eternity!
Thank you
What is Eternity? I could tell you, but it takes forever to explain. Next question....
🤣🤣🤣🤣
If it takes forever to explain, then it couldn't be explained. 😉
@@davide724 Dont ruin a good joke with better logic 🖐
@@UFOUAPMagnet I'm sorry for making sense. 😀
@@davide724 Its fine. Please dont do it again 😂 Trying to make a living here.
Why is this very brilliant gentleman having such difficulty answering the question regarding projects, activities, boredom etc in the higher realms of spiritual existence…I would imaging that in these infinite and multi varied realms where our individual identities continue yet in a much more evolved state and with unimaginable limitlessness that we would have unlimited options for projects, things to explore and experience…perhaps even choosing to return to an Earthly existence or an existence on some other level or experience….There would be more to do or not to do not less… I bet you could even find a pub or three with good live acoustic music….a friend of John Cleese pondered not just about life after death but “iOS there sex after death?”….I bet there is…and its probably better than anything we have here on Earth…✌️😄🍻
1 Corinthians 2:9
New International Version
9 However, as it is written:
“What no eye has seen,
what no ear has heard,
and what no human mind has conceived”[a]-
the things God has prepared for those who love him-
Let me guess the answer to your riddle, it's a canned giraffe you're describing. First i thought it could be a helicopter between two slices of bread, but the last line was an obvious clue to me, you are talking about giraffe meal.
I am touched by your quest to look deep into the reality of existence .
Your answers may be in the Vedic literature .
Just one clarification again from the Vedic scriptures.
If you experience new and enlightening bliss every neno second of your relationship with god ( with complete fullfilment) why and how will this be boring even with your nature )
Did you ever seen any Vedic text for yourself? Google it, then tell me what can you find practical and useful in that confuses poetry today. Give me one example and i'll take your idea seriously, a single one.
Ancient scriptures are a wonderful historical document, but you people make them worthless and stupid by quoting them in modern times.
Eternity means that state which is beyond time . In Bhagbat Gita Lord Krishna says we are etarnal beings . Now in science perspective scientists do not agree that we are souls but at the same time they can not explain what is free will ?& what is conciousness? In Bhagbat Gita Lord Krishna says we are pure blissfull conciousness also we are not our body rather we are part and parcel of Him ( Lord Krishna).
Yes. The living, the subject of knowledge is in principle invisible. That's the difficulty with self recognition, because it is exactly about the invisible. Like freedom, that you can only have or be in. Nobody ever has seen freedom, and science can only see determined things! Science can not see the living, the subject of knowledge. Science is its tool for self intervention for reason of self transformation and realization. What science can see looking back in past, recognizing there only some unpersonal forces or energies in the beginning, is not the living, it's something like the "dead corpse" of the living, spoken with Nietzsche. ✌️
This interview just shows that heaven is a man made construct as god is . As the song go's < Everyone wonts to go to heaven BUT no-one wonts to die > To be dead is no different then what was like before we were born
It’s heaven or hell no third option.
@@tomorrowmaynevercome3171 prove your assertion. This is the only life we have
“There is more to time than subjective mental experience of it” The kernel that was rushed over and not given any attention.
Russell isn't a hyper rationalist. That's great 👍😀
E então se substituímos o "E" de energia na fórmula de Einstein E=m*c^2 por :
Informação/Energia
Já que tudo é informação na forma de energia
E já que o momento (C) É
eterno, ficamos com a fórmula :
Informação /energia = choque de dois momentos ( C^2) que causa (*) ,uma realidade material (M) (reencarnação)
A classic straw man idea - "eternity, what would it like?". As if the concept has some meaning for homo sapiens with a lifespan of 70 years. To make some progress on the absurd proposition that eternity has some meaning for man, they have to start up the conjecture generator. And this all assumes that there is a god, heaven etc. It would be more productive simply to point out the improbability of that argument and get on with our lives. The physicist believes in the resurrection - "why" would be a decent question. As a scientist who is supposed to be driven by evidence he'd have as much difficulty with that as he has with trying to imagine how "eternity" could be good.
Every idiot can present himself as a scientist in a global world, not enough smart people to tell the difference.
At the point of physical death-
*All paradox will be reconciled*
Maybe... have you been able to have a "clinical death" experience, maybe... Hope so. v
@@virginiatyree6705 no. That wud be something though.
Imagine taking 1000 people.
Stopping all their hearts at the same time.
Then either drawing s symbol or revealing a symbol. A huge symbol on the floor.
Then restart hearts ( cross fingers u don’t lose any )
Then see who can draw/identify the symbol.
It could prove awareness leaves the body.
What do u think?
6 23 21 Hey again @@Sirach-pv5xv, Too bad, yes it is. Give it a try & have medical people on standby. v
@@virginiatyree6705 thanks friend
6 25 21 Hey again @@Sirach-pv5xv, You're quite welcome. 😙...v
What us the nature of reality?
This is simply pure speculation.
And not a thing persuasive about it.
And so what?
Agreed. Simply pulling a rabbit out of a hat.
Some of it made sense. I understood eternity as being beyond the realm of the time we physically experience. If God existed before anything physical, we will also experience eternity in life after death
As opposed to???
It's impossible to understand something that is outside our temporal existence. We just don't have the mental reference points. The best I could do is what they used to say on BSG, "All this has happened before and will happen again".
Read more science fiction and less fiction, so you could see for yourself we can very well imagine many things outside temporal existence. Some of them might turn out to be true, good science can do that to a fiction, bad fiction can't and never will.
@@xspotbox4400 I love science fiction and you are correct, we can imagine almost anything. My point was that we cannot know and what we imagine cannot be tested.
@@TheBruces56 If science, it can be verified by experiment, we can prove things by direct or indirect observations and measurements.
How is it possible, science means some facts are placed inside a hierarchical structure of knowledge, therefore we know what it can be because of verified facts around that new hypothesis Ir to say it in other words, all scientific theories are continuations from previous, more basic theories, it's not science if idea stand on its own, without any previous verifiable notion about it.
@@xspotbox4400 I was referring to any reality that may be outside our plane of existence and thus can't be observed or tested. I would point out that over history many scientific "facts" have been found to be wrong and replaced. Newton's theories were written in stone for several hundred years until Einstein came along.
@@TheBruces56 Scientific facts are always correct and can never change, since they're established by all kinds of experiments. Reality can change, we can't know how universe will evolve in far future, but that doesn't mean science of today was wrong.
Scientific knowledge is a structure, it begins with very elementary facts and build up upon them, as far as experimental evidence allow.
Newton's ideas are still written in stone, now more than ever, Einstein only expanded on his principles. He was a real deal, Newton knew he can't explain what kind of force is working on a distance, so he didn't even try to include unknown into his formula. He didn't do laws, only principles.
10:16 - 10:19 He's a hard sell, but beginning to bite
Nothing makes sense. We could say that's normal because we are very limited by our senses but we have instruments to show us the things we miss. And yet, it gets even more weird the more we know. Why is that?? It's like reality goes beyond of what any brain can imagine or think.
You don’t need to be a physicist to understand reality. Those guys are just good at math. Reality has two parts: what life really is, and what you want it to be. So for most people, life is a mixture of stoicism and idealism. Men tend to be more stoic, and women are more idealistic. So reality is where those two philosophies meet, within the bounds of love. Outside the bounds of love, there’s not much compromise. But when love is seen as an idealistic combination of masculine strength and feminine beauty, then both sides are drawn to love not as an end in itself, but as a form of religious idealism. Religion is organized love. And marriage is idealized love. So after love has been organized, and then idealized, stoicism can serve as a foundation upon which further hopes can be founded. So reality is the product of idealized love, which manifests itself through reciprocity among all the members of a community, leading towards a balanced stoic optimism, which permeates everything.
In short, eternity is what time looks like. Nothing ever happens in time.
“Time is a flat circle.” - True Detective
Ultimately I don't think it is important if we can conceptualize eternity or not, we are not biologically eternal creatures, everything we know about us is pretty conclusive about this point. To withstand eternity, to live for an eternity, something fundamental about us, about our mind, would need to change, so the central question we should be asking ourselves is: "Are we ready to accept a transformation that will change us so fundamentally in exchange for the opportunity to last forever?", personally I think this kind of transformation sounds very similar to death, because whatever comes out from the other end will no longer be human, or more precisely it will no longer be I.
I make that choice everyday
Eternity is physics, when the universe is no longer capable of supporting life, the only thing left is the fundamental laws of physics that operate in it. That's why physics is the king of all knowledge.
Physics is not thinking, it's a shortened instrumental thinking, and it doesn't explain world, it's self intervention of life for reason of self transformation. ✌️
Fascinating concept.
What to do when one becomes disembodied?
Find another womb, lol.
No worries M8, you’ll have ETERNITY to find another one.
Eternity is exactly the same feeling and being as you felt/experienced before you were born: infinity of nothing. There, we have proof of that by our very being, our experience already. Next question.
there is not explanation of an infinity going backward from a materialistic point of view. So better you start to ask yourself some questions ...
@@francesco5581 No, rather you should get your head around what I stated. Before you were born was part of the infinity. Nothing about going back in time if indeed there is any timescale of infinity. Infinity has no time.
@@fortuner123 On a materialistic standpoint infinity must have a time and so cannot be explained since you go backwards without an end. And that is not acceptable for science. There would be always the question "What there was before ??". Attempts to solve the question, even by Hawking-Turok, gave the result that whatever mathematical approach you use the result is always an empty space. Is one of those concepts that is without answer, not your fault of course, but dont try to give answers that dont exist.
@@francesco5581 There is no time in infinity.
@@fortuner123 only in an altered state of consciousness
Read or watch Eckhart Tolle
He's a genius.
Eternity: the length of time lock down will last
You have to release about heaven is it won’t be anything like earth all you will feel is loved and at home you will feel no pain no sadness you will feel like you belong because you do it’s your soul that’s going home the flesh dies but the soul goes on so the “ wonder” goes away because you made it ur home you can rest and praise god along with other ppl
Childhood , old age and every life throughout time or the memories that were good Just like Elijah who was John the dipper and is now here again. Hello! Any virgins awakening yet?
Latest Rick&Morty cartoon was on this topic. Also the bible. There is order above where God is, and then the submerged chaos where law reigns. The abyss. Creation happens on that surface. The interface. Where the above faces the below. Existence and eternity will always form on that surface where order is made out of chaos, where we meet our challenge of creation. Where we procreate and have eternity in it. Where duality interfaces, like yin and yang, also death and resurrection.
What, where, when? Let's stick to Ricky and Morty cartoons, you were doing great at the beginning of your nonsense story.
@@xspotbox4400 The great about Rick&Morty is that it is funny all the way down to every detail. The more you get the funnier it gets. I have been laughing at it all day. And if you care to look. Deep philosophical ideas in 20 minutes of fun. What makes it great that it is structured around powerful ideas. I am referring to Season 5 Episode 1
@@brandursimonsen4427 Why not, you managed to raise my interest for Ricky and Morty show, will check when i find the time, and perhaps thank you for a good tip :)
Are they like Bivas and Buthead?
I love a good working vacation myself
There’s an evolutionary reason why people never feel satisfied. Our ancestors were the ones who kept learning more, kept eating more food, kept accumulating more wealth, kept reproducing offspring. The ones who were satisfied couldn’t compete with those who weren’t.
The bible teaches that in resurrection bodies we will live in a new heavens and new earth. There believers will fulfill what God required of Adam and Eve originally. We will work to care for the earth and discover with delight what God has created. This is what Jesus offers.
There is no beginning and no end. Try to look at time in that way.
Do you really want to live forever?
Forever
Forever
Forever young
I want to be forever young