There are millions of people within 2 hours of buffalo that aren't counted in numbers....ie Canada...the bills are Ontario and Toronto's NFL team and thousands of season ticket holders 20% live in Canada....another 10 any given game are Canadian...these are statistics that don't show up in most stats... everything north of the city is not considered Buffalo but in reality it is a Buffalo suburb
2 things IE local benefits. 1. Erie County gets the contracts for EMS, which is paid for by the Buffalo Bills. They charge a premium for this service. I had season tickets beside a high ranking fire official in Erie County who said each game could fund an entire station for a year in what the county received between EMS and Parking. 2. State income taxes. Without the players there, NYS would be out roughly 50 million a year in state income taxes for games played in Buffalo. This is both teams when they play there as NFL income is game based and taxed at the rate where the game is played. Taxes should only go up as player salaries do. In the long term, this is a net benefit for NYS. There are local benefits, thats why the local and state level had no qualms in pitching in. The team doesn't profit or have private EMS firms which are often owned by the team itself unlike other NFL teams.
Joe, New York State's 650 million for the stadium came from the Seneca Nation's casino check they have to give the state. Gov.Kathy Hochul, received the check for 650 million, the very next day she gave that money to cover stadium construction. So, the money came from the gamblers in WNY and not from NYC.
The bill that was passed in NY Senate in March 2022 said this money will come from an education tax, which is a property tax, across the State. $250 million will come from Erie County tax payer money. Also, they took 1/2 of Erie County Community College land to build the stadium. So I would consider that a tax, even if you argue the dollar amount of that land. Where this $600 million Seneca tax check came from us a mystery. It sure sounds like a nice story tho.
@@imsnowedn ECC has 3 campuses, they in no way gave up half of the colleges land, maybe half of the south campus but i doubt this was 1/2 of the south campus too.
@michaelkaster5058 right it was all the athletic fields and like one education building on the South Campus. Def worth it tho, the students and the States are gonna get so much back for that State owned land by donating it to a private individual. Def the college doesn't need land that a private resident from Florida can benefit from financially instead. It's a worthy cause. Increases the value of his privately owned team by another $1 B. It's a worthy cause. That Florida resident needed that New York State land.
Irish here, love the NFL. I think Highmark Stadium is the best stadium to watch a match from. Its got that old school feel and the fans really get behind their team. As big 'soccer' fan I really admire the Bills. It's a shame they are knocking and rebuilding.
They have to, sadly. The old stadium won't pass it's next inspections. There's structural issues that would cost something like half the cost of a new stadium to fix.
@@kensmith2829 agreed, I have also read in a few different places that visiting teams hate the locker rooms and half the time the hot water doesn't work in either home or away locker rooms. Kind of funny that the Colosseum in Rome still stands after thousands of years but with our "advanced building technology" we can't keep a stadium for more than 50 years ;)
I know your average human today demands instant wifi and gormet foods etc. It's not gonna be Sofi/Alligent but it really feels like a classic stadium in Buffalo. I recently watched a video about all the 'old world buildings' that once stood in Buffalo, guess you guys just LOVE destroying your history. I'll still root for the Bills though!
We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
The population is a strange topic. The buffalo area is really bigger than most people think. For example, the 'metro' population of Miami is measured as Miami, Fort. Lauderdale, and West Palm beach. Center of Miami to center of West palm beach are about 75 miles apart. Buffalo and Rochester NY are considered seperate statistical areas, enough though Rochester is just about as far from Buffalo as West Palm Beach is from Miami. Plus, some areas in between both cities (Batavia NY, a small city) is pretty much an exurb of Buffalo, but it is counted with Rochester, not Buffalo. Also, As others have mentioned, Canada. Many people east of Hamilton Identify with Buffalo as much as they do with Tornoto. They use the Buffalo airport. Go to sporting events and theater in Buffalo. There are more than 500,000 people in that area. And of Course Toronto. About 95 miles from Downtown Buffalo (not much farther than West Palm Beach is from Miami), you have another metro area that is bigger than ANY in the US other than NY or L.A. Now, all residents in Toronto are not fans of the Bills, but many are.
Niagara Falls Canada is 30 minutes from the stadium. Its becoming more and more like Vegas every year. In fact, there are 2 luxury hotels planned that will begin to bring an even higher level of clientele to the area.
@@thedrunkenwobblies1331 People aren't going to travel 35 miles from their hotel room in Niagara Falls to get to the Super Bowl in Hamburg. There is also very little development around the stadium to entice crowds. I went to Detroit for Super Bowl 40 to watch in a bar there and they threw a heckuva party in downtown Detroit. There was a lot to do there that you cannot do in Hamburg simply because it was in a downtown of a major city, not the outskirts in a suburb. If a Super Bowl was held in Buffalo, we would get eviscerated in the press for not having enough luxury things to do. Remember, the Super Bowl is for the celebrities, not the bread and butter fan.
@@thedrunkenwobblies1331 Do you think they're going to pull in several cruise ships and dock them next to General Mills or in the ship canal in old Bethlehem Steel to provide hotel rooms? What about the fact that there isn't much to do around the stadium itself or that Hamburg has been dragging their feet about building that area up for 50 years?
Taxpayers should't be responsible for taking care of people - in every facet of their lives, who are illegally here and literally broke the law coming into the country either. Yet ...... here we are.
I absolutely hate when people say, "how come they didn't build a dome if a lot of their games get postponed due to weather?" Okay so you have a dome covering the stadium. Congratulations the field is dry. But all the roads and parking lots around the stadium are still covered in 5 feet of snow. Never has there been an issue of clearing the field in time. It has always been anf will continue to be a question of whether or not the roads are clear enough for traffic and emergency services to navigate.
Wish more newer NFL stadiums would go to these canopy designs. I agree with the Bills owner football should be played outside. Glad they didn't go with a another SoFi ripoff like other teams are.
Because it depends on the city also. A lot of city's aren't gonna give land and help pay for a stadium to billionaires for a stadium that will only have limited usese thru out the year
What they didn't say is that it would have cost another 1.2 billion for a closed roof stadium and the state wasn't going to pay any more so the ownership would have been stuck with that bill. I too would say that if I didn't want to spend over a billion dollars ;)
@@roncarney7445 We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
Buffalo residents pay New York State taxes for things that we never use that benefits New York City. Stop making it seem like we dont deserve a nice venue.
The NFLs northernmost team? No that’s probably Seattle, then Minnesota and Green Bay at least before you get to Buffalo. I’m sure the rest of the video will be well researched and not hot takes and hastily thrown together click bait
2:39-2:40 Terry Pegula may have said that Football is meant to be played outdoors but Marv Levy said it first. Go watch the NFL Films Team film on the 1990 Bills titled “Thundering Herd” 3:55 The canopy will cover 65% of the seating area
It's great the new Highmark Stadium is retained outdoors. Think of what the Dolphins would do if it was indoors? We have to play NE and NY Jets. They both play outdoors.
Great video. Only issue I take is that simply stating the population of just the Buffalo city proper isn’t really fair. There’s 1.2 million people in the Buffalo Niagara region.
We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
first off, the fans don't want it. 2nd, it would add to the cost of construction. and it wouldn't make a difference as far as attracting the super bowl or final four, or other comparably big events. BUF doesn't have the hotel accommodations. big concerts routinely by-pass the area because WNY is a limited market. and even with a retractable roof, the WEATHER would be a huge problem in the winter for people to get to the stadium in the event there's snow. which the BUF area gets a ton of because of the lake effect.
Imagine the typical Buffalo winter. Cold dark and snowy. Now imagine that same winter except that the Buffalo Bills no longer play in Buffalo.😢 I’m pretty sure most taxpayers are OK with supporting the team a bit. 😂
Buffalo wasn’t going to get a Super Bowl with a domed stadium. There is no place to put all the people that would come. Not enough hotels, where would all the people stay??
Everyone complaining about public money, Bills are the only NFL team in the state of NY. Meaning they are the only way for NYS to tax NFL athletes. In addition to what the Bills players, coaches, and staff will pay in income taxes, every visiting team's players , coaches, and staff also has to pay the NYS 'jock tax', which is just shy of 11%. If you do the math, assuming a conservative estimate of the NFL salary cap increase year over year, NYS will MORE than recoup the money they are putting in, even considering inflation, from the jock tax alone.
Aren’t the Pegula’s wonderful? State funded, and how much for season seats? $10,000 or more for personal seat license? WTF is that? And that doesn’t include the actual season pass.
Hearing rumors scalpers expect lower bowl to go for 2k a game for the first few years of the stadium, as long as the Bills stay good. If you aren't buying them, somebody who will sell them to the opposite teams fans certainly will.
Just pulling numbers out of your ass doesnt make them true. You can get into the Charge Club which has separate entrance, upgraded food and bars, upgraded bathrooms for 6k PSL and 2500ish Season Tickets. Talk to a rep yourself or stop spreading bullshit.
If you build it, 50% of your long time season tix holders WILL GO! We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
@@kidwave1 I was referring to if they would have build it downtown the market would have increased revenue from travel would have increased from casino hotel entertain public transportation….the increase of police fire ems and a decrease in vacant properties
Taxpayers should have a say in contracts salaries now and how tge team functions its ur tax money so it's ur team simple so basically, then the owners of the team need to.pay u back u paid for it so it's ur stadium not pagly 50% tax its ur team simple
No retractable roof? They literally have to get VOLUNTEERS to shovel out their stadium on games. Cant even host any other indoor events = more loss revenue. Joke
Hell of alot more people paying than bill mafia. Amazing how people will put up spending billions of tax dollars for a billionaire industry. Then to add insult to injury they have a passing league and team and didnt cover it. Why would you want the team to have their main advantage taken away by snow. # CAN HOCHOL
A dome stadium downtown would helped revitalize the city of Buffalo brought more tax revenue into the city… it was a missed opportunity. The money was there to built more infrastructure…host final and yes the Super Bowl. Most people want the stadium downtown. If you look at other markets they are building domes .why build a venue in worst location .. they get twice as much snow than the north towns crazy…If you look at its projected usage and cost analysis it win win for the owner put not the tax payers
And the cost would have tripled. Also, who's privately owned land downtown are you going to take it from? Stadium downtown pushes people from their homes and businesses, creates traffic and infrastructure nightmares, sky rockets the costs, and kills the tailgating community.
@ I think you mean that there are only 2 cities with a GDP above $1 Trillion. $1 Billion is not as much as you think it is when you consider a city’s economy.
We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
There are millions of people within 2 hours of buffalo that aren't counted in numbers....ie Canada...the bills are Ontario and Toronto's NFL team and thousands of season ticket holders 20% live in Canada....another 10 any given game are Canadian...these are statistics that don't show up in most stats... everything north of the city is not considered Buffalo but in reality it is a Buffalo suburb
WNY is Buffalo.
Buffalo is WNY.
Canadians come to Highmark to watch REAL football.
The Bills are the ONLY team that plays in NYS.
The Bills are not the NFL's most northernmost team (1:45). The Vikings and Seahawks are both located further north than Buffalo
Green Bay as well
When he said that I thought something didn't seem right
Buffalo generally gets hit with more snow all at once tho lake effect
2 things IE local benefits.
1. Erie County gets the contracts for EMS, which is paid for by the Buffalo Bills. They charge a premium for this service. I had season tickets beside a high ranking fire official in Erie County who said each game could fund an entire station for a year in what the county received between EMS and Parking.
2. State income taxes. Without the players there, NYS would be out roughly 50 million a year in state income taxes for games played in Buffalo. This is both teams when they play there as NFL income is game based and taxed at the rate where the game is played. Taxes should only go up as player salaries do. In the long term, this is a net benefit for NYS.
There are local benefits, thats why the local and state level had no qualms in pitching in. The team doesn't profit or have private EMS firms which are often owned by the team itself unlike other NFL teams.
Joe, New York State's 650 million for the stadium came from the Seneca Nation's casino check they have to give the state. Gov.Kathy Hochul, received the check for 650 million, the very next day she gave that money to cover stadium construction. So, the money came from the gamblers in WNY and not from
NYC.
The bill that was passed in NY Senate in March 2022 said this money will come from an education tax, which is a property tax, across the State. $250 million will come from Erie County tax payer money. Also, they took 1/2 of Erie County Community College land to build the stadium. So I would consider that a tax, even if you argue the dollar amount of that land. Where this $600 million Seneca tax check came from us a mystery. It sure sounds like a nice story tho.
@@imsnowedn ECC has 3 campuses, they in no way gave up half of the colleges land, maybe half of the south campus but i doubt this was 1/2 of the south campus too.
@michaelkaster5058 right it was all the athletic fields and like one education building on the South Campus. Def worth it tho, the students and the States are gonna get so much back for that State owned land by donating it to a private individual. Def the college doesn't need land that a private resident from Florida can benefit from financially instead. It's a worthy cause. Increases the value of his privately owned team by another $1 B. It's a worthy cause. That Florida resident needed that New York State land.
Irish here, love the NFL. I think Highmark Stadium is the best stadium to watch a match from. Its got that old school feel and the fans really get behind their team. As big 'soccer' fan I really admire the Bills. It's a shame they are knocking and rebuilding.
They have to, sadly. The old stadium won't pass it's next inspections. There's structural issues that would cost something like half the cost of a new stadium to fix.
@@kensmith2829 agreed, I have also read in a few different places that visiting teams hate the locker rooms and half the time the hot water doesn't work in either home or away locker rooms. Kind of funny that the Colosseum in Rome still stands after thousands of years but with our "advanced building technology" we can't keep a stadium for more than 50 years ;)
I know your average human today demands instant wifi and gormet foods etc. It's not gonna be Sofi/Alligent but it really feels like a classic stadium in Buffalo. I recently watched a video about all the 'old world buildings' that once stood in Buffalo, guess you guys just LOVE destroying your history. I'll still root for the Bills though!
@@kensmith2829 And you believe that? c'mon bro, dont be so naive.
We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
The population is a strange topic. The buffalo area is really bigger than most people think.
For example, the 'metro' population of Miami is measured as Miami, Fort. Lauderdale, and West Palm beach. Center of Miami to center of West palm beach are about 75 miles apart. Buffalo and Rochester NY are considered seperate statistical areas, enough though Rochester is just about as far from Buffalo as West Palm Beach is from Miami. Plus, some areas in between both cities (Batavia NY, a small city) is pretty much an exurb of Buffalo, but it is counted with Rochester, not Buffalo.
Also, As others have mentioned, Canada. Many people east of Hamilton Identify with Buffalo as much as they do with Tornoto. They use the Buffalo airport. Go to sporting events and theater in Buffalo. There are more than 500,000 people in that area. And of Course Toronto. About 95 miles from Downtown Buffalo (not much farther than West Palm Beach is from Miami), you have another metro area that is bigger than ANY in the US other than NY or L.A. Now, all residents in Toronto are not fans of the Bills, but many are.
You need to use metro area sizes not city limit sizes - this always irks me
Buffalo could never deal with a Super Bowl crowd. Not enough hotels, they knew that before building this.
Niagara Falls Canada is 30 minutes from the stadium. Its becoming more and more like Vegas every year. In fact, there are 2 luxury hotels planned that will begin to bring an even higher level of clientele to the area.
@@thedrunkenwobblies1331 People aren't going to travel 35 miles from their hotel room in Niagara Falls to get to the Super Bowl in Hamburg. There is also very little development around the stadium to entice crowds. I went to Detroit for Super Bowl 40 to watch in a bar there and they threw a heckuva party in downtown Detroit. There was a lot to do there that you cannot do in Hamburg simply because it was in a downtown of a major city, not the outskirts in a suburb. If a Super Bowl was held in Buffalo, we would get eviscerated in the press for not having enough luxury things to do. Remember, the Super Bowl is for the celebrities, not the bread and butter fan.
@@panachevitz Dude, they stayed on a cruise ship when the game was in Jacksonville. Do you think there are a lot of hotels near Metlife?
@@thedrunkenwobblies1331 Do you think they're going to pull in several cruise ships and dock them next to General Mills or in the ship canal in old Bethlehem Steel to provide hotel rooms? What about the fact that there isn't much to do around the stadium itself or that Hamburg has been dragging their feet about building that area up for 50 years?
Taxpayers should have no responsibility for stadiums unless a share of the revenue goes back to the taxpayers.
Where do you think the taxes from stadium operations go?
@@brandonbuck1951and sales tax,occupancy taxes for hotel rooms etc yada yada..50 yr old stadium..its time and this is what it costs
This stadium is going to be owned by the state and the bills are going to pay the state to play there
Taxpayers should't be responsible for taking care of people - in every facet of their lives, who are illegally here and literally broke the law coming into the country either. Yet ...... here we are.
@@dyates6380 It's always ironic when a non Indigenous person talks about illegal immigration and having to take care of them against their will.
The evolution in sports stadiums is insane. All the tech in the new bills stadium looks cool.
I absolutely hate when people say, "how come they didn't build a dome if a lot of their games get postponed due to weather?" Okay so you have a dome covering the stadium. Congratulations the field is dry. But all the roads and parking lots around the stadium are still covered in 5 feet of snow. Never has there been an issue of clearing the field in time. It has always been anf will continue to be a question of whether or not the roads are clear enough for traffic and emergency services to navigate.
Wish more newer NFL stadiums would go to these canopy designs. I agree with the Bills owner football should be played outside. Glad they didn't go with a another SoFi ripoff like other teams are.
Because it depends on the city also. A lot of city's aren't gonna give land and help pay for a stadium to billionaires for a stadium that will only have limited usese thru out the year
What they didn't say is that it would have cost another 1.2 billion for a closed roof stadium and the state wasn't going to pay any more so the ownership would have been stuck with that bill. I too would say that if I didn't want to spend over a billion dollars ;)
I love the outdoors stadium design . I wish all Northern teams were outdoors. I have a lot of respect for the Bills fans wanting this
Fans wanted a dome, ownership wanted an outdoor stadium - less expensive
Been a fan since 1988 and and I’m glad they are not building the dome.
@@roncarney7445 We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
@@jefftomasello3258 Dead wrong. They surveyed STH and the majority wanted open air.
Buffalo residents pay New York State taxes for things that we never use that benefits New York City. Stop making it seem like we dont deserve a nice venue.
The NFLs northernmost team? No that’s probably Seattle, then Minnesota and Green Bay at least before you get to Buffalo.
I’m sure the rest of the video will be well researched and not hot takes and hastily thrown together click bait
2:39-2:40 Terry Pegula may have said that Football is meant to be played outdoors but Marv Levy said it first. Go watch the NFL Films Team film on the 1990 Bills titled “Thundering Herd”
3:55 The canopy will cover 65% of the seating area
LOL, the fans will be paying for this stadium for a long time while the owner and the NY governor sit back and laugh.
We needed a great venue in Buffalo. I can't wait to attend.
It's great the new Highmark Stadium is retained outdoors. Think of what the Dolphins would do if it was indoors? We have to play NE and NY Jets. They both play outdoors.
Great video. Only issue I take is that simply stating the population of just the Buffalo city proper isn’t really fair. There’s 1.2 million people in the Buffalo Niagara region.
Yep! Plus 30% of Bills fans that go to games are from Canada. So you have all of southern ontario, including Toronto to pull from.
Also about another 20% come from Rochester, which has a metro population of around a million. The Bills are definitely a regional franchise.
We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
Buffalo's to small to hold a super bowl
The city doesn’t have enough hotels to accommodate a SB
Almost at 100k!
New highmark stadium will hold events in spring summer and fall
Why not put a retractable roof?
first off, the fans don't want it. 2nd, it would add to the cost of construction. and it wouldn't make a difference as far as attracting the super bowl or final four, or other comparably big events. BUF doesn't have the hotel accommodations. big concerts routinely by-pass the area because WNY is a limited market. and even with a retractable roof, the WEATHER would be a huge problem in the winter for people to get to the stadium in the event there's snow. which the BUF area gets a ton of because of the lake effect.
Even more expensive than a dome
7 ft snowfalls
Prob would have doubled the price. Prob would have got voted down.
Western NY population is around 1 million plus the Toronto metro area
They should have did what the Minnesota's Vikings did
Imagine the typical Buffalo winter. Cold dark and snowy.
Now imagine that same winter except that the Buffalo Bills no longer play in Buffalo.😢
I’m pretty sure most taxpayers are OK with supporting the team a bit. 😂
Northernmost team? Do some research
if it had a dome i would say yes
The Vikings, Packers, and Seahawks are all further north than Buffalo.
Buffalo wasn’t going to get a Super Bowl with a domed stadium. There is no place to put all the people that would come. Not enough hotels, where would all the people stay??
Everyone complaining about public money, Bills are the only NFL team in the state of NY. Meaning they are the only way for NYS to tax NFL athletes.
In addition to what the Bills players, coaches, and staff will pay in income taxes, every visiting team's players , coaches, and staff also has to pay the NYS 'jock tax', which is just shy of 11%.
If you do the math, assuming a conservative estimate of the NFL salary cap increase year over year, NYS will MORE than recoup the money they are putting in, even considering inflation, from the jock tax alone.
Fun fact the new bills stadium and gta 6 will cost the same
Slow down Joe. Slow down. You're speaking at a zillion miles a minute
800+million not 600 million & they have the final 4 in the hockey stadium
Not watching, only answering the question. "Yes."
Aren’t the Pegula’s wonderful? State funded, and how much for season seats? $10,000 or more for personal seat license? WTF is that? And that doesn’t include the actual season pass.
10,000 less seats is a huge L
it’s not worth paying $8000 for a seat with $2000 PSL. That is how much my seat would be when converting to the new one.
Hearing rumors scalpers expect lower bowl to go for 2k a game for the first few years of the stadium, as long as the Bills stay good. If you aren't buying them, somebody who will sell them to the opposite teams fans certainly will.
Just pulling numbers out of your ass doesnt make them true. You can get into the Charge Club which has separate entrance, upgraded food and bars, upgraded bathrooms for 6k PSL and 2500ish Season Tickets. Talk to a rep yourself or stop spreading bullshit.
@ you haven’t gone to the experience yet. I’ve been told by seat sellers that my seat would be 8000. don’t try me.
@ I’m talking about seat licensing, not just psl.
lol i got lucky to find you early on, 1 mill prob eoy
Hurts the economy more to not have a team at all
Buffalo hosting a Super Bowl 😂
It should be illegal to use public funds for things like this unless the government is getting a guaranteed cut of the profits.
No it should never be legal - Government MUST BE KEPT OUT IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES!
Look at what Cleveland and Chicago are doing with their stadiums. This is a joke.
No, you can thank DEI/ESG mandates and inefficiencies
Could your provide a breakdown of the costs of achieving DEI/ESG requirements?
Could you please slow down when you talk?
if you build it they will come
If you build it, 50% of your long time season tix holders WILL GO! We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!
@@kidwave1 I was referring to if they would have build it downtown the market would have increased revenue from travel would have increased from casino hotel entertain public transportation….the increase of police fire ems and a decrease in vacant properties
Buffalo is not the nfls northern most team
Taxpayers should have a say in contracts salaries now and how tge team functions its ur tax money so it's ur team simple so basically, then the owners of the team need to.pay u back u paid for it so it's ur stadium not pagly 50% tax its ur team simple
Nope.... That was easy saved myself 8 minutes...
Yes to the owners but…..
No retractable roof? They literally have to get VOLUNTEERS to shovel out their stadium on games. Cant even host any other indoor events = more loss revenue. Joke
Please 60 percent is covered other parts heated
No
OMISSION ERROR
NY Govern’s husband will run the commission in the stadium
And the $600 million from the State of NY could be used to improve infrastructure in western NY.
Chiefs stadium is best, ironically it’s the worst
And its located in a shithole part of town.
Hell of alot more people paying than bill mafia. Amazing how people will put up spending billions of tax dollars for a billionaire industry. Then to add insult to injury they have a passing league and team and didnt cover it. Why would you want the team to have their main advantage taken away by snow. # CAN HOCHOL
A dome stadium downtown would helped revitalize the city of Buffalo brought more tax revenue into the city… it was a missed opportunity. The money was there to built more infrastructure…host final and yes the Super Bowl. Most people want the stadium downtown. If you look at other markets they are building domes .why build a venue in worst location .. they get twice as much snow than the north towns crazy…If you look at its projected usage and cost analysis it win win for the owner put not the tax payers
It would have cost triple or more than what it costs currently.
Um, no. There is NO "revitalizing" the city of Buffalo. Dont be so naive.
And the cost would have tripled. Also, who's privately owned land downtown are you going to take it from? Stadium downtown pushes people from their homes and businesses, creates traffic and infrastructure nightmares, sky rockets the costs, and kills the tailgating community.
Does the city of Buffalo even have a GDP of $1B? 😂
There's only two cities in the US that have a GDP over $1B
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I think you mean that there are only 2 cities with a GDP above $1 Trillion. $1 Billion is not as much as you think it is when you consider a city’s economy.
@@del-see-oh You're right. My mistake. The list I was looking at was in millions of dollars.
These new stadiums all have no character, no history in them, no soul
We've had 4 season tickets in row 2 and 3, directly on the wall of the tunnel, ...SINCE 1987! We've said for decades that, if they ever build a new stadium, we would never be able to afford the same approximate seats in a new stadium. Guess what? After 38 YEARS of having season tickets, We're done when the new stadium opens! Exactly as we've said for 20 years! This story goes for a VERY large percentage of people I know that have had season tix for YEARS! Whoever dreamt up the cash grab / THEFT ...that is PSL,s, is a despicable wretch!