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  • @rawbertdogler
    @rawbertdogler День тому +76

    i appreciate the detailed explanation but i've been on the internet long enough to know that it's gay if balls are touching

  • @hussssshie
    @hussssshie День тому +114

    been using fake kingbo flux for a while. bought some syringes and it works surprisingly well. the problem with china is that next time i order its probably going to be shite and unusable. they change the formula on a per-day basis

    • @Kabodanki
      @Kabodanki День тому +19

      That's really true. That happened also when you deal directly with the manufacturer themself, sometimes they will send very bad quality, and they will apologize and send you the right one after that, most of the time, but you will lose so much time.

    • @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
      @AnnaVannieuwenhuyse День тому +16

      Kingbo clone rma218 and nc559 have both been consistently good for me over the past years. I buy a couple tubs a year.

    • @hussssshie
      @hussssshie День тому +10

      @@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse the one i bought claims to be RMA218. 10x 10cc syringes for 12$ or so.
      i bought fake amtech in the past and when it turned out to be good, i immediately reordered from the same seller to have a couple years worth of flux and it didnt even have the same color. like 5 shades apart lmao. and it smelled like a track day held right next to a slaugterhouse

    • @ChristopherBurtraw
      @ChristopherBurtraw День тому +4

      Probably just comes from a different source, instead of a single source changing formula

    • @nouton7432
      @nouton7432 День тому +2

      there is company in china that u can hired that speak eng they talk to the factory not to change it if u order really much

  • @4dvanced112
    @4dvanced112 День тому +7

    The flux application tappy tap technique is a good idea……. I learned something useful today, thanks man.

  • @Woodz_007
    @Woodz_007 День тому +43

    I lost count for how many times u said BALLs

  • @Junior_POA
    @Junior_POA День тому +10

    Chinese Kingbo is widely used and recommended by mobile phone repairers here in Brazil.

    • @Radek__
      @Radek__ 23 години тому +1

      yes, I confirm it. Kingbo is good. But you have to get original one in the small syringe with the hologram sticker. The bigger version in a can, are often fakes

  • @viniciusvbf22
    @viniciusvbf22 14 годин тому

    This was actually very helpful. I just tried for the first time to reball some memory chips from Raspberry Pi 3B, and I found it extremely difficult to align the balls. They were 0,35mm and I was doing everything by hand, so now I know that this size is really small and I didn't fail as miserably as I thought I did. I also used fake china flux to position the balls over each pad, and failed the first 2 times, but the 3rd time - with much less flux -, was the charm. Thanks!

  • @maschra
    @maschra День тому +4

    I use this flux to help solder stick to 18650 cells, which many other brands also struggle to achieve. Nice vid 👌

  • @ManuFortis
    @ManuFortis День тому +16

    I'm less worried about the garbage flux being fake kingbo, and more worried about the fact you are using your big toe to smear it.
    ...
    Yes, I realize the zoom on the camera is making it look like that.

  • @lucataszarek8782
    @lucataszarek8782 День тому +3

    Hello🤝 Tony, it's great that you found a flux that will make your already difficult job easier, thanks for the info. Regarding the Kimbo rm 218 flux, in Poland I pay USD 4.85 for 10cc (converted to dollars), I have been using it for years, it is good, but I don't like the smell. P.S. I didn't know they didn't produce it anymore, I need to stock up while it's available, best regards👍👍👍👍👍👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

  • @TheDoomerBlox
    @TheDoomerBlox День тому +7

    7:48 - if balls inspection fails because no balls then there are usually other things which need inspection

  • @satria4195
    @satria4195 21 годину тому

    Flux have many properties like how corrosive, acid level, vaporization temp, stain/gunk free, i like my flux more acid level for copper, for resoldering less acid level/corrosive for the pads that already has solder layer, so that don't create oxidation fast enough

  • @hi-friaudioman
    @hi-friaudioman День тому +4

    I've bought both kinbo flux, a tube from ebay and a tub from amazon. The tube from ebay was much higher quality than the tub from amazon. Also try mechanic diamond flux, that stuff is crazy clear and great for pad replacement. Its literally crystal clear, low burning, and almost zero fumes. Crazy stuff.

    • @fracturedlife1393
      @fracturedlife1393 День тому +2

      facts, they see a good product next thing 17 consonant no vowel named store selling knockoff of a knockoff 😅

    • @kibecru
      @kibecru 22 години тому

      I couldn't find this flux, are you sure that's the correct name? Mechanic has a flux syringe thats supposedly crystal ckear but it's called nano flux.

  • @smartperson1
    @smartperson1 День тому +15

    The slightly swirly pattern of the pads on the chip is so pretty.

  • @josephamaral419
    @josephamaral419 День тому +4

    Honestly, any flux might give you cancer. Almost all of the brands I've seen and used state to not get it on your skin.
    Love your vids.

  • @ileox4170
    @ileox4170 День тому +2

    Got exactly these white fake cans from Aliexpress and use this flux for everything :D even BGA! And it works okay most of the time, good to know the Master-Reballer is happy with it 😜❤️

  • @julianjohnston5092
    @julianjohnston5092 22 години тому

    Thanks for sharing your mastery of balls and chips.

  • @Eddieddg1
    @Eddieddg1 42 хвилини тому

    Dricking game: take a shot every third time he says balls.

  • @kakkoishonen
    @kakkoishonen 23 години тому +1

    AMAOE Magnetic Stencil kit for use with Solder Paste is way better when you deal with tiny pads like that.

    • @oynamalan
      @oynamalan 20 годин тому

      Yeap. We're using DS-201A combined with AMAOE + BAIYI sets for variety of chipsets.

    • @vulubalulubalulu
      @vulubalulubalulu 18 годин тому

      Disagree. Solder balls are precisely the same weight and size. with solder paste you are eyeballing teh amount of tin

  • @Foxx_69
    @Foxx_69 21 годину тому

    Ive been using that stuff for a while. Some how ended up with an overload of stiri tf.. which smells nice but evaporates so fast. I find the fake kimbo is amazing for reballing and dropping new ports on boards. I use the stiri for general purpose and the wick clean up. No need for anything else honestlyz. Although i do want to try pure rosin like Soren. I think it also has it use cases

  • @sMyXsiN
    @sMyXsiN День тому +5

    better than factory

    • @igortube
      @igortube День тому +1

      he should have slipped that one in unironically and see if anyone noticed.

  • @1998eclipse1998
    @1998eclipse1998 19 годин тому

    The reason that 100gram tub flux works so good it is runs to the heat instead of running from the heat

  • @_droid
    @_droid День тому +1

    I wonder if they cut that stencil with a galvo head fiber laser. If you look at the holes under a high power microscope the edges of the holes won't be straight vertical because it's cutting on a spherical plane.

    • @theoldbigmoose
      @theoldbigmoose День тому

      yes what I thought too. Galvo distortions

  • @Fk8td
    @Fk8td День тому

    I do the same exact thing with silicone on engine parts I do use more obvious but I tap to get an idea of how even it is. I always get a uniform squish and never leaks.

  • @Radek__
    @Radek__ 23 години тому

    1:20 yes it is still in production. You can buy it easily outside us. If something is not present in USA, then it not means that it not exist.
    Kingbo in small syringe with hologram sticker are almost always original (without those which has a flux in very snow-white color), and Kinbo in can are very often fakes, but not always.

  • @jiggilowjow
    @jiggilowjow День тому +1

    hey they got the kingbo right on ebay brother... 10.99.... your welcome, and thanks for all the knowledge

  • @Radek__
    @Radek__ 23 години тому +1

    1:35 "and it's not really for reball" When you say something like that, please add word "in my opinion". Because I'm working on Kingbo for 10 years. I made hundreds success gpu/chipset reballing, reflow. And I love that fulx. If you don't like it- then fine. If you don't know how to work with it on bga - then also fine, but please stop saying lies that it is not for bga work. A lot of people love that fux and recommend it for bga.
    You counted some "cons". But for me there is only one important thing, which good flux is not allow to do during bga - I don't want to my bga chip to jump up because of boiling flux at 180-240 degrees Celsius, and Kingbo doesn't do it.

  • @florianhofmann7553
    @florianhofmann7553 День тому +1

    Thanks for the tip!

  • @bobsoft
    @bobsoft День тому +1

    3:20 Same stuff I buy from Ali Express as well as the Northridgefix tools for cheap without the re branding.

    • @same4718
      @same4718 День тому +2

      Do you know what's the braid wick that Northridgefix uses? I've searched every and can't get a thick braid that serves my needs

  • @user-vsmsdos
    @user-vsmsdos День тому +1

    Invest in a fume hood exhaust for all of that flux

    • @--_DJ_--
      @--_DJ_-- День тому +1

      He has a fume extractor.

  • @oynamalan
    @oynamalan 20 годин тому

    Use solder paste and magnetic stencil set. This is how we reball pch's

  • @SidneyCritic
    @SidneyCritic 16 годин тому

    When it evaporates does it get sticky, because that would explain why stuff doesn't move.

  • @albyboy4278
    @albyboy4278 День тому

    I don't think is a trash because it is a new flux advertised everywhere like a cream soldering flux..
    On AliExpress they sell it with bigger container..

  • @aguzhendro8541
    @aguzhendro8541 День тому

    I use that flux about 3 Years now, it working perfectly,

  • @Paranoid_Frog_Game
    @Paranoid_Frog_Game День тому +3

    This has got to be the best electronics repair channel on yt. Appreciate the knowledge!

  • @lvaItix
    @lvaItix 6 годин тому

    Why don’t you use solder paste instead of solder balls? It’s much more convenient for such small holes.

  • @MrTakohara
    @MrTakohara День тому

    Once another youtuber who repairs graphic cards recommended the interflux iF8300 for reballing. However it is not cheap and I am not sure if it is available everywhere.

  • @teddp
    @teddp День тому +10

    Chinese flux thick as molasses made out of rice 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @wizzitech7504
    @wizzitech7504 День тому

    On pch i use paste for reballing with amaoe stencil + holder and i reball usually first try perfectly

  • @kepler104
    @kepler104 День тому

    Cheap kingbo I bought is great so far, no complains.

  • @stibis5713
    @stibis5713 День тому

    it makes the balls shiny if you check under the chip using microscope after reball... it also makes sparking solder joints(using soldering iron), I mean sparkling.... sorry for my English😆

  • @outseeker
    @outseeker День тому +1

    somebody buy him the stencil from his own supplier please :D

  • @Alan_Skywalker
    @Alan_Skywalker День тому

    Try Alpha LR721H2 or Senju 529D. They are thick, can last quite some time under high temperature, and don't smell too bad.

  • @c0tt0nm0ufh
    @c0tt0nm0ufh День тому

    wow just checked and I have about a third of jar left of my kingbo made in japan. I stopped using it cause like you said it smears all over the pcb.

  • @moristo
    @moristo Годину тому

    Hi man, please try Mechanic M35 Nano Flux, it's 0 Mega Ohm of resistance and very low smoke, it's very good when installing IC.

  • @BugsNRoses_
    @BugsNRoses_ День тому +1

    i think you should apply hot air while the chip is on the stencil? the stencil is mostly wont get soldered to the solder or to the pads, thus solves the miss alignment of balls right?

    • @1234567890CAB
      @1234567890CAB День тому +6

      The problem is that the metal stencils are so thin that they will warp and bend when heated, damaging the stencil. They also block some of the heat causing more heat to go into the stencil and less heat into the chip causing you to increase the hot air temperature.

    • @Phathom0
      @Phathom0 День тому +5

      The stencil is misprinted, that is why balls aren't aligned. He needs a new stencil.

    • @hussssshie
      @hussssshie День тому +1

      @@BugsNRoses_ thats the way for small chips. larger than RAM and you start having issues with the stencil warping and expanding. it doesn't last many cycles before its so out of shape balls get under it. he shouldve tried direct heating since this stencil was trash anyway, could've worked

  • @dominicm2175
    @dominicm2175 23 години тому

    Is there a support group for those that use a microscope to inspect their balls ? 😝

  • @ryu03xism
    @ryu03xism День тому

    Here in the PH u can buy that kingbo stuff...

  • @Radek__
    @Radek__ 23 години тому

    0:54 oh, just change the type of stencil, to direct heat type, and stop complain. (I mean the type, where you have to heat the stencil directly, without take it off from the chip, then the solderballs will be kept in place by that stencil holes all the time)

  • @semresistencia
    @semresistencia 20 годин тому

    I was thinking if a Rosin Atomizer would apply a realy thin layer of rosin. Would that works?

  • @networkingdude
    @networkingdude День тому +1

    Solder paste is better suited than balls in this case?

    • @ChristopherBurtraw
      @ChristopherBurtraw День тому +1

      I've wondered the pros and cons of the two techniques in general.

    • @1234567890CAB
      @1234567890CAB День тому +1

      @@networkingdude Nope, the solder paste sticks to the BGA stencil and not the chip. Also as soon as you start heating solder paste the flux thins out and starts spreading the paste. If the solder paste is in a mound and not flat, the mound completely collapses and really spreads out. Solder paste stencils are similar in thickness to aluminum foil, maybe a bit more. BGA stencils are closer to credit card or cardboard thickness, maybe a bit less. Solder paste is applied at the factory extremely thin, and the main way to add more is to increase the area it is applied to instead of increasing the thickness. In other words there is a larger opening in the stencil when you need more solder paste. Once the solder starts melting, the metal's surface tension makes it bead up or climb the edge of a component. On a BGA the paste would spread all over the entire chip and wouldn't form consistent or big enough balls.

  • @lanelesic
    @lanelesic День тому

    If its cheap and does the job, than it can't be garbage.
    Reball these nutz.
    🤣

  • @thenfsoverclocker7143
    @thenfsoverclocker7143 День тому

    Hhhhh, i love how you said it, accidentally lol😅😅😅😅

  • @PhoneGuruindia
    @PhoneGuruindia День тому

    😂😂😂 I am using that Garbage From about 4 years it's amazing.Used for mobile bga reballing

  • @zaminnagiyev999
    @zaminnagiyev999 День тому

    why you don't use solder paste + solder ball? i just asking i don't have experience with it but i want to try it looks easier than flux.

  • @easyadmin3429
    @easyadmin3429 17 годин тому

    3:29 Wait what? Where is the discount code? 🙂

  • @ivanurban2383
    @ivanurban2383 18 годин тому

    hello what software do you use to view the schematics? thank you

  • @oaba201
    @oaba201 20 годин тому

    High viscosity flux what you want.

  • @Unsocial200
    @Unsocial200 День тому

    Have you tried Felder Lotfett?

  • @BootedTech
    @BootedTech День тому

    You can still get Kingbo RMA-218 at most places.

  • @jukkapekkaylitalo
    @jukkapekkaylitalo 23 години тому +2

    Maybe it is just vaseline made from sever grease, that otherwise would be used in Restaurants in china.

  • @barbarianzg8826
    @barbarianzg8826 День тому

    Nvidia made same mistake once,w 1080tinever again

  • @andresilvasophisma
    @andresilvasophisma День тому

    Please consider adding the name of the product to the title.

  • @ChrisDay-sx4lv
    @ChrisDay-sx4lv 22 години тому

    Ive always bought kingbo, or at least tried, amazingly they created a fake of their own products.... The real stuff does work well and is a good price.

  • @jay22alco
    @jay22alco День тому

    now that you made a video out of it, price would probably change.

  • @OVERKILL_PINBALL
    @OVERKILL_PINBALL День тому

    I just bought some Kingbo on ebay. It is there.

  • @tonict2302
    @tonict2302 День тому

    Awesome video

  • @danytoob
    @danytoob День тому

    I liked 👍, and this comment. Where do I get the cupie doll?

  • @Attix7
    @Attix7 День тому +1

    You definitely need NF.stencel, and NF.flux.

  • @custume
    @custume День тому

    good info 😉

  • @JETWTF
    @JETWTF День тому

    Thick enough for solder balls to stick to the pads under the stencil but not thin enough for them to migrate after the stencil is removed but also thin enough to clean up after soldering easily. is what I hear That's the gist of this video I got as the whole process is like voodoo to me and I just watch because it is entertaining. I get the purpose of flux though so please nobody tell me about it in replies.. I use flux all the time but with a hammer and anvil rather than a soldering iron or heat gun requiring a microscope.

  • @MishimaZaibatsuCorp
    @MishimaZaibatsuCorp 23 години тому

    Hey, which video on this channel had those nice cat memes in it?

  • @supernova874
    @supernova874 День тому

    " Inspect The Balls" lmao

  • @floorpizza8074
    @floorpizza8074 День тому

    Algorithm comment. Thanks for taking us along.

  • @Glorious.Return
    @Glorious.Return День тому +3

    Why call it "garbage" if it is a "miracle" that "works really really well"??

    • @tejay9416
      @tejay9416 23 години тому +2

      Because companies like Stirri or SIrri whatever they call themselves have much more stringent higher standards of quality where as factories in China just do it willy nilly. This batch is good next one is terrible the next one after that is ok. There's no consistency. You'll get good flux one order and then itll be so bad the next time youll never want to order it again, better just to spend 10 or 20$ on one tube of the good stuff especially if u do professional work, if I found out you were using any kind of flux you can find on my high end GPU id be livid. I order flux off Wish myself but I wouldn't touch my 3090 Ti with it.

    • @Glorious.Return
      @Glorious.Return 19 годин тому

      @@tejay9416 Dude I get what you are saying and you are probably right but the point is, the one at hand, is either garbage, or it works ~really x2~ well "miraculously". Overconfident contradicting words of calling it garbage many times while confirming it works great, with a great surface tension that holds the solder balls in place.. like how?! 😂
      It's like buying a cheap 4090 from alimama and finding out it's actually a real 4090 and still call it a scam and garbage!!

  • @danielsatko-
    @danielsatko- День тому

    im using fake kingbo for 10+ years. i like it more than mechanic or other brand. but i hear it is not good for reball for u?

    • @Luis_Sebastian7674
      @Luis_Sebastian7674 День тому

      Do you have a good store to buy? I bought a couple of syringes of good kingbo flux a couple of years ago, but the last one I bought was not good for reballing.
      I also would recommend qianli/mega idea, that is really good for bga, but also not much left.

    • @danielsatko-
      @danielsatko- День тому

      @@Luis_Sebastian7674 no i dont. that big case took maybe 2years to use so it was long ago

  • @sairus6055
    @sairus6055 День тому

    You can buy RMA-218 but every time is a gambling. Never know what arrive at this time even if you buy only from one seller. My solution buy 5pcs test it and ged refund and dispose it (if it bad) or start use it and exess tubes place to fridge.

  • @GreenyX1
    @GreenyX1 День тому +13

    Maybe the cheap Chinese one is Vaseline AND rice milk.

  • @RaincloudTheDragonXD
    @RaincloudTheDragonXD День тому

    it's balls day!

  • @RetroFix
    @RetroFix День тому

    Ive been using the fake stuff for a while. Love it. 😂

  • @petermoesker2977
    @petermoesker2977 День тому

    Aliexpress still sales kingbo rma

  • @castiel7330
    @castiel7330 День тому

    Wear a glove or sth dude we love you, we don't want you to get cancer

  • @zokiz9449
    @zokiz9449 День тому

    using cheap kingbo rma 218 for years. didn't know it is so good 😂

  • @mexxt
    @mexxt День тому +3

    у меня такой флюс, брал лет 7 назад, но он кал, не как у вас, полоски не голубые, а фиолетовые

  • @gabest4
    @gabest4 День тому

    Does it taste sweet? Maybe honey. But fake chinese honey.

  • @oneplusplus2918
    @oneplusplus2918 День тому +13

    Cant watch how you spread flux with bare hands. Dont you know its toxic at best? All kind od problemy starting with cancer.. And thats for western regulated brands. Who knows what chemicals they put in chineese knock offs(as you mentioned yoirself in this video). Safety, at least latex gloves and good ventilation, fume extractor should be your priority, while first thing you do when diagnosing GPU is reballing the core😅 Your repairs and sense od humour are prestine, but you make bad example by using bare hands to spread flux, some watching might think its ok, making you semi responsible for their potential health problems if they do the same. Anyway, who cares, your channel is gold.

    • @iDUMB
      @iDUMB День тому

      counterargument: it smell good 🤤

  • @marlonjamesbayaras8981
    @marlonjamesbayaras8981 День тому

    better stock sum of that flux quick cause most chinese manufacturer will change their formula or either disappear out of the blue, or rebrand their self cause they messed up their name or being bought by other company giant

  • @gmontejro
    @gmontejro День тому

    If it works its not junk 😂

  • @PAB-Elektronik
    @PAB-Elektronik День тому +1

    This guy TheCod3r sell Kingbo and he say its Genuine. You have to look at the Kingbo logo one is fake one is genuine, thats what poeple say anyway.

    • @maschra
      @maschra День тому +1

      I believe he buys it from Ali Express, where it's still available. It's probably not the genuine product, even if the seller's description states otherwise.

    • @PAB-Elektronik
      @PAB-Elektronik День тому +1

      ​@@maschra Ok I've watched his live broadcasts and he doesn't exactly give confidence in his repairs so why would he be honest about Kingbo? There are not many like Tony, honest, professionally done repairs and has a great sense of humor.

    • @maschra
      @maschra День тому

      I'm not sure what you've read, but your response is the complete opposite of what I have said.

    • @maschra
      @maschra День тому

      I've never questioned the honesty of Tony or TheCod3r. My comment was about the honesty of AliExpress sellers.

    • @PAB-Elektronik
      @PAB-Elektronik День тому

      @@maschra Blaming Aliexpress is not an excuse, if you are selling an item that you say is genuine then it is your responsibility as a company. He knows very well that they are FAKE. I think it was 2012 that Nihon Chemical stopped making Kingbo but could be wrong as to what year it was. Haven't said you think anything of either Tony or anyone else. Just some of my thoughts how people try to become like NF in non-serious ways. So swim easy have a nice day.

  • @chauto5987
    @chauto5987 21 годину тому

    Actually I always looking for this exactly flux in fake maket :D

  • @benthegoose
    @benthegoose День тому

    Who checked their phone at 4:11 ?😁

  • @itscoldcoldwinter
    @itscoldcoldwinter День тому +1

    everything u see in video its for sale on website even me commenting on this video i’m for sale in website even my mom comes if u pay for fast shipping

  • @devilzuser0050
    @devilzuser0050 23 години тому

    Next time I comment.

  • @TBizzle102
    @TBizzle102 18 годин тому

    New video from "New Mind" - The Science of Balls
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  • @peternoone7902
    @peternoone7902 День тому +1

    All products come from China in the end. All the made in Germany is assembled there, yes, but main product from China

  • @noanyobiseniss7462
    @noanyobiseniss7462 День тому +1

    You can also try dropping some lead in Hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid) and using that for flux. as long as you clean it well before installing the chip. ;)

  • @Fatpumpumlovah2
    @Fatpumpumlovah2 День тому +8

    China makes great products and cheap products, Americans choose to buy the Cheap products and charge 300% markup.

    • @hoangminhdo1259
      @hoangminhdo1259 День тому +2

      Wdym , billionaire have to feed their golden yatch too you know , it really expensive to do it , we have to give them all of our money so they can flex their richness to lower people like us 😂😂

    • @Kabodanki
      @Kabodanki День тому

      Why wouldn't they ? I mean if you are dumb enough to buy a chinese product at 300% markup, that's on you.

    • @Luis_Sebastian7674
      @Luis_Sebastian7674 День тому +2

      A million dollar house must come from somewhere 😅

  • @TheLateral18
    @TheLateral18 День тому

    this garbage is a miracle
    jajajajajajaja

  • @iphonegoes1250
    @iphonegoes1250 День тому

    two years ago i bought this Kingbo flux from china with a good viscosity.. but i'm scared to use since it says that it can cause birth defect or cancer...so i never used

    • @Radek__
      @Radek__ 23 години тому +1

      at least they are saying truth. And other flux is killing us in silence 😅
      There is impossible to have a very good flux which is not toxic. Just buy a good smoke absorber

  • @bornagain2641
    @bornagain2641 День тому

    KingBo Kitchen

  • @TheEli1963
    @TheEli1963 День тому

    DSUNYK flux is actually that fake kingbo