Using scabs and not wanting to pay a rigger who had refused to do stunts that violated OSHA guidelines in the past is a bad look for a company making that much money. Pure negligence; never should have been wearing a safety harness that hadn’t been tested and wasn’t approved. Solid grounded in logic theory on your part. 👍
Dude, I think you nailed it. Great job. That's what the police report said, that Bobby Talbert said he stretched his arms and that caused his shackle to release. Still, that shackle should've never been on him. For that to release that easily, should've never happen. It was never secure.
There are sworn statements (perhaps even depositions) from the stunt rigors for the Police investigation into it: That Owen was adjusting his cape or making some kind of movements that triggered his release. I don't think we'll ever know if it had to do with him starting to gesture for his entrance or not, it might be something only Owen could answer. I theorize although he was briefed that the release was easier to trigger, he was so used to naturally adjusting and making some light moments while suspended that he did it naturally, but it triggered the release.
I think the cable was set to release early , that cable is suppose to have a safty thing and can hold over a 1000 pounds even more , but like all things you get lemons that snap , like a on a cable you hook handles or ropes at the gym to a machine a hook i used one it snapped on me i went flying and one of the workers came over and said i have never seen one snap like that like the hard steel or whatever metal but it did it in the middle so it might have been just bad luck
Interesting take on it...one I've not heard before... The one thing I'll never forget about that night was Jim Ross announcing his death and the fans behind him are totally oblivious to the fact that Owen had died... Just before JR makes the announcement, Kevin Dunn tells him to make the announcement, JR says 'what is the announcement' Dunn said 'Owens dead, and your back on in 10...9...' Dunn couldn't have been any colder if he'd climbed into a freezer
So bottom line is you are stating that the B.B. motions set off the release prematurely or accidently when in fact it should have been triggered open when Owen reached closer to the canvas, there was also talk about the mechanism used that day was not up to par or appropiate enough, + had been changed from the regular one that was recommended for specific reasons, why would they even allow him to move around + about on the cable when he was in mid-air that sounds like a safety issue in it self, mind you I've seen artists when making videos moving feely on a cable that used a harness but not 70 to 100 feet up, what really sucks also is the show kept going which is controversial + disrespectful to Owen + his fans, + abusive mental cruelty to the other wrestlers booked on the card that were friends etc. yet the excuse used was to save a possible riot which has no merit or truth for a reason, McMahon could afford to take the loss in shutting it down + then refunding the employees + customers that would have been the right thing to do, but no he had to dishonestly scam it to make money hope he gets what's coming to him in jail he totally deserves it.
No new theories are needed. It’s just a tragic loss and Owen would’ve been a multi time world champion in more than one promotion because he would’ve won the WWE title many times and probably joined TNA and AEW.
My theroy is after he injured Stone Cold, Vince felt Owen did the piledriver on Austin's neck on purpose. Vince realized Owen Hart cost him millions, possibly billions in future revenue due to personal feelings. I believe it was rigged. It was revenge.
I think so too. Owen was hurting people in purpose like Dan Severn too cause his career turned out bad and the hart family had real beef with Vince. Austin thought he hurt him on purpose and so did dan
Height-Weight (Velocity) by distance fell (78 feet) there are many sites that give you the length of a fall by putting those factors in to a calculator. Now Wind can play a roll but I didn't have the wind factor, since it was indoors its safe to imagine it wouldn't of played a huge role so that's how I got the length of time.
If you look up the audio of the Spanish commentary from that show, you cant hear when Owen falls and the commentators saying oh no oh no. It was still on UA-cam last time I looked it up
A lot of people blame the company, and fair enough, but ultimately your boss in life is you. You’re your own safety expert. The last stop. What I’m saying is Owen 1) shouldn’t have agreed to do it. 2) Then he shouldn’t have been dicking around adjusting shit after he left the catwalk. Obviously we all make mistakes. I’m just saying the company wasn’t the only one who did so on that night.
Don't worry, Bro. If people can't handle a WHOLE 7 minute video, tough. If it were 4 times longer or more, then you might want to direct them to the absolute relevant time point. Interesting theory. Thanks for sharing it. Sad loss.
Hey thats a good theory! I still have that Event on VHS and the following Raw tribute to Owen. im gonna rewatch it now , thanks for sharing! RIP OWEN HART
I'm confused, I see in some videos that I see him crumpled against something right at the audience, and in others, he's in the ring. Can you tell me what the truth is, please?
@WrestlingNostalgia101 Yes. But I have seen a fan video that shows him right at the barrier. hulk hogan was one of the first to get to him. Then someone looks down and stands up and starts screaming and gestures with his arm. He is wearing all black. It's weird. Because I also saw video of him in the ring. If you want, do a search for Owen Hart and try to find the fan post on the site. Please look for it and let me know ok. Appreciate your feedback!
Good video, i am a big Owen Hart fan, and was 14 when he died. It screwed me up. Owen Hart was murdered, he was sacrificed. All of us 90s kids were apart of the ritual. This is why we can’t let it go.
I have seen interviews where thet say that when Owen Hart fell, he hit the top rope and it propelled him to the inside of the ring, but in the actual video, it shows him basically doing a faceplant on the corner turnbuckle and the momentum of that hit, then caused him to fall to the outside in front of the metal barrier seperating the crowd.
@@Kenai9Koda yeah and the royal rumble cover before it with Owen falling on the event poster, Bret on the Coliseum Video release cover with a huge clock ticking down and YOUVE BEEN WARNED right beside Bret’s face. Wrestling Insight here on YT has a great video covering the Owen death.
@@MachoWrestling101😳 dude I forgot all about that. Yeah, that’s definite predictive programming and symbolism. WWF was my childhood but Vince McMahon is one sick, evil dude.
and unfortunately they used that so he could fall flat on his face when he was five feet from the canvas. To make him look silly, That's why that was done. "This whole thing was done for that moment." Like Bret Hart said
highly doubt it, I think McMahon hated that this whole thing happened at all. Its one of those theories though...I think when you look back it just 'looks that way'. I would believe the Benoit family was murdered and they made it look like Chris did it before I;d believe this but its what it is
I actually saw that when it happened, and at first it really caught me off guard, because I was thinking it was a part of the act, but when I saw H.H basically run to where he landed and heard J.R. say 'oh my god', I knew right then it was real not a part of the act.
Hey bud I really think someone pushed him off just look really close he had someone behind him just look close please I looked a few times that's what I believe I'm just letting you know that bud
Well I'm using facts from the case (When he fell literally was 5 seconds after his theme hit during the video package) you can till this by the spanidh audio. It's assuming in some areas yes, outside the fact we know the quick release did open up from hid adjusting himself or moving in the motion i described. As detailed as my description was, the biggest thing I wanted to make clear was I feel he did the wing waving motion when his entrance music hit, in the video promo for his match. I feel he thought the cameras were on him due to the music playing (He's right next to the sound in the air) and that's what made the quick release go. It's all speculation of course
No it's your theory + negative if i may say so, you sound like a corrupt ICBC representative trying to dodge injury claims, + closing the books as fast as you can like it's just another day at the races, why even bother putting a sentence together that nobody is interested in hearing have some class.
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Using scabs and not wanting to pay a rigger who had refused to do stunts that violated OSHA guidelines in the past is a bad look for a company making that much money. Pure negligence; never should have been wearing a safety harness that hadn’t been tested and wasn’t approved.
Solid grounded in logic theory on your part. 👍
Dude, I think you nailed it. Great job. That's what the police report said, that Bobby Talbert said he stretched his arms and that caused his shackle to release.
Still, that shackle should've never been on him. For that to release that easily, should've never happen. It was never secure.
thanks!!
It makes a whole lot of sense..by owen adjusting his arms and cape triggering quick release.. its was tragic event i never forget
Yeah I just think he heard his music and went to do the arm movement because the cameras would be on him so as that happens, he falls...
There are sworn statements (perhaps even depositions) from the stunt rigors for the Police investigation into it: That Owen was adjusting his cape or making some kind of movements that triggered his release. I don't think we'll ever know if it had to do with him starting to gesture for his entrance or not, it might be something only Owen could answer. I theorize although he was briefed that the release was easier to trigger, he was so used to naturally adjusting and making some light moments while suspended that he did it naturally, but it triggered the release.
I think the cable was set to release early , that cable is suppose to have a safty thing and can hold over a 1000 pounds even more , but like all things you get lemons that snap , like a on a cable you hook handles or ropes at the gym to a machine a hook i used one it snapped on me i went flying and one of the workers came over and said i have never seen one snap like that like the hard steel or whatever metal but it did it in the middle so it might have been just bad luck
Nahh he had a harness clip made for sale boats meaning they would be release by weight nd no more than 6lbs+ of pressure
Interesting take on it...one I've not heard before...
The one thing I'll never forget about that night was Jim Ross announcing his death and the fans behind him are totally oblivious to the fact that Owen had died...
Just before JR makes the announcement, Kevin Dunn tells him to make the announcement, JR says 'what is the announcement' Dunn said 'Owens dead, and your back on in 10...9...' Dunn couldn't have been any colder if he'd climbed into a freezer
So bottom line is you are stating that the B.B. motions set off the release prematurely or accidently when in fact it should have been triggered open when Owen reached closer to the canvas, there was also talk about the mechanism used that day was not up to par or appropiate enough, + had been changed from the regular one that was recommended for specific reasons, why would they even allow him to move around + about on the cable when he was in mid-air that sounds like a safety issue in it self, mind you I've seen artists when making videos moving feely on a cable that used a harness but not 70 to 100 feet up, what really sucks also is the show kept going which is controversial + disrespectful to Owen + his fans, + abusive mental cruelty to the other wrestlers booked on the card that were friends etc. yet the excuse used was to save a possible riot which has no merit or truth for a reason, McMahon could afford to take the loss in shutting it down + then refunding the employees + customers that would have been the right thing to do, but no he had to dishonestly scam it to make money hope he gets what's coming to him in jail he totally deserves it.
McMahon comes from show business, they live by "the show must go on"
No new theories are needed. It’s just a tragic loss and Owen would’ve been a multi time world champion in more than one promotion because he would’ve won the WWE title many times and probably joined TNA and AEW.
I think that's a great theory, I will never forget that night 😢 such a tragic loss 💔
My theroy is after he injured Stone Cold, Vince felt Owen did the piledriver on Austin's neck on purpose. Vince realized Owen Hart cost him millions, possibly billions in future revenue due to personal feelings. I believe it was rigged. It was revenge.
Cool story bro
I think so too. Owen was hurting people in purpose like Dan Severn too cause his career turned out bad and the hart family had real beef with Vince. Austin thought he hurt him on purpose and so did dan
How did you time it when the video footage has not been released ?
Height-Weight (Velocity) by distance fell (78 feet) there are many sites that give you the length of a fall by putting those factors in to a calculator. Now Wind can play a roll but I didn't have the wind factor, since it was indoors its safe to imagine it wouldn't of played a huge role so that's how I got the length of time.
Theres audio recording of it
there's also been fan footage down the years, but WWE strike it pretty much instantly
If you look up the audio of the Spanish commentary from that show, you cant hear when Owen falls and the commentators saying oh no oh no. It was still on UA-cam last time I looked it up
A lot of people blame the company, and fair enough, but ultimately your boss in life is you. You’re your own safety expert. The last stop.
What I’m saying is Owen 1) shouldn’t have agreed to do it. 2) Then he shouldn’t have been dicking around adjusting shit after he left the catwalk.
Obviously we all make mistakes. I’m just saying the company wasn’t the only one who did so on that night.
I also never heard any one explain what happened as good as you dude, you are a real fan. Rip owen
thanks, my friend!
4 minutes in is where my point comes in, but watching until the end is where it makes sense
Don't worry, Bro. If people can't handle a WHOLE 7 minute video, tough. If it were 4 times longer or more, then you might want to direct them to the absolute relevant time point. Interesting theory. Thanks for sharing it. Sad loss.
thanks man, according to youtube is people love this video at the 2:20 mark @@alankoz5067
Hey thats a good theory! I still have that Event on VHS and the following Raw tribute to Owen. im gonna rewatch it now , thanks for sharing! RIP OWEN HART
thanks for the comment man! Appreciated
I was watching the event live when he fell. I think wwe dimmed the lights when he fell. I couldnt believe it happeded
I'm confused, I see in some videos that I see him crumpled against something right at the audience, and in others, he's in the ring. Can you tell me what the truth is, please?
He fell into the ring I explain it in the video
@WrestlingNostalgia101 Yes. But I have seen a fan video that shows him right at the barrier. hulk hogan was one of the first to get to him. Then someone looks down and stands up and starts screaming and gestures with his arm. He is wearing all black. It's weird. Because I also saw video of him in the ring. If you want, do a search for Owen Hart and try to find the fan post on the site. Please look for it and let me know ok. Appreciate your feedback!
Good video, i am a big Owen Hart fan, and was 14 when he died. It screwed me up. Owen Hart was murdered, he was sacrificed. All of us 90s kids were apart of the ritual. This is why we can’t let it go.
WOW....
Thank you for posting
I have seen interviews where thet say that when Owen Hart fell, he hit the top rope and it propelled him to the inside of the ring, but in the actual video, it shows him basically doing a faceplant on the corner turnbuckle and the momentum of that hit, then caused him to fall to the outside in front of the metal barrier seperating the crowd.
The video can't be seen, that's a different incident you seen
@@jdfiendthe video exists, though
@JamesChatting aye but it's locked away at wwe studios
Blood sacrifice
Yep. Event titled Over The Edge. Symbolic.
Guys might be right, name is a hella weird coincidence huh
@@Kenai9Koda yeah and the royal rumble cover before it with Owen falling on the event poster, Bret on the Coliseum Video release cover with a huge clock ticking down and YOUVE BEEN WARNED right beside Bret’s face. Wrestling Insight here on YT has a great video covering the Owen death.
Don’t forget al snows head was in the corner and it read help me ten minutes before his fall same corner turnbuckle too
@@MachoWrestling101😳 dude I forgot all about that. Yeah, that’s definite predictive programming and symbolism. WWF was my childhood but Vince McMahon is one sick, evil dude.
We know Vince did it.
The people responsible must pay
Stone cold on the rafter WITH a bolt cutter 😮
Still a faulty rigging set up shouldn't have used a quick release
and unfortunately they used that so he could fall flat on his face when he was five feet from the canvas. To make him look silly, That's why that was done. "This whole thing was done for that moment." Like Bret Hart said
Even i know the difference between both video package and post fall video
They killed owen because of their beef with bret
highly doubt it, I think McMahon hated that this whole thing happened at all. Its one of those theories though...I think when you look back it just 'looks that way'. I would believe the Benoit family was murdered and they made it look like Chris did it before I;d believe this but its what it is
That's childish
I actually saw that when it happened, and at first it really caught me off guard, because I was thinking it was a part of the act, but when I saw H.H basically run to where he landed and heard J.R. say 'oh my god', I knew right then it was real not a part of the act.
How did you hear Jim Ross say oh my god
Hey bud I really think someone pushed him off just look really close he had someone behind him just look close please I looked a few times that's what I believe I'm just letting you know that bud
As interesting as your theory is, it's all speculation, yes?
Well I'm using facts from the case (When he fell literally was 5 seconds after his theme hit during the video package) you can till this by the spanidh audio. It's assuming in some areas yes, outside the fact we know the quick release did open up from hid adjusting himself or moving in the motion i described. As detailed as my description was, the biggest thing I wanted to make clear was I feel he did the wing waving motion when his entrance music hit, in the video promo for his match. I feel he thought the cameras were on him due to the music playing (He's right next to the sound in the air) and that's what made the quick release go. It's all speculation of course
Here's the theory,it was an accident,he fell way to early,ge is dead. The end
No it's your theory + negative if i may say so, you sound like a corrupt ICBC representative trying to dodge injury claims, + closing the books as fast as you can like it's just another day at the races, why even bother putting a sentence together that nobody is interested in hearing have some class.
Wwf and stone cold killed owen hart