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I have the 16 inch, M1, and I won’t upgrade again until Apple makes a MacBook with 4K resolution. Because I also own a , 17.3 inch x17 alianware, and the resolution is way better than my MacBook.
The pro macbooks have that higher storage and memory as their base, so it's just a small price jump from regular macbook with the same specs (512gb storage and 16gb ram). Regular macbooks cut down the base specs of the pros for people who really cannot afford to spend more
That is a bad business for Apple as they keep the base price low to attract customers, and make their margins from people upgrading. It would break their business model and be a disaster for them.
From a consumer standpoint, I would love this. From a business standpoint, this is not a good move to make. The people who have purchased the new MacBooks and Mac mini machines are loving them a ton.
@@ahaimes6320 Yeah, but you could argue that it would still hold it's value selling an upgraded MacBook than a base MacBook. Even in the used market, those upgraded MacBooks hold their value.
Kind of ridiculous that my phone (Fold 4) has more storage and memory than a base model MBA... I had to shell out practically MBP money for the config I wanted for my MBA. 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM, 10-core GPU. Yes it would've made more financial sense to get the M1 Pro MBP, but the form factor was a deal breaker. Coming from a 2017 macbook (the one with only 1 USBC port), no other choice for me than the MBA. But imagine that 2015-2017 macbook form factor with an M chip... My dream Mac.
The first MAC I bought lasted three years. I bought two more and had the same problem with both. After about 6 months they quit working. I had a warranty and took them to the apple store. When they opened them up, they were rusted inside. I was accused of spilling something on the keyboard, not so. They said my warranty didn't cover the problem. For what I paid for them, I should have been given a new laptop. I will never buy another Apple laptop of any kind.
Price hikes in markets outside the US are probably a factor as well. The M2 MacBook Pro 14 inch starts at £2149 in the UK now, which is $2670. The M1 Pro was £1899 if I remember correctly.
@@britexpat_l33t The price is about 30% higher than the US starting price, before sales tax (which in my area is 7%). Apple will say that the 30% difference is the VAT plus import duties. If import duties are around 5% plus 20% VAT that is 5% for currency market fluctuations…
Partly. It does not help that Apple wants to charge full price for a slight upgrade. I was planning to buy a Mac but did not pull the trigger because the performance gains were not there. Apple should have waited to upgrade the MacBook Pro line.
Nah, during COVID people still bought MacBook air, this time it's caused by little improvement in performance, this is expected. Apple should focus more on software while keeping the better hardware of previous gen
@@bluebird1954 they should have held out until they had real performance gains. When you could not get the 3nm tech finalized on a processor then delay the release of the MacBook Pro replacement. Also do not screw people over that get the base model storage with slower speeds than the M1.
Bought a 16” MBP M1 in Aug 2022. Doing lots of 4K vid editing, triple screen, etc. It’s soooo overkill and I love it. Can’t imagine upgrading for 4-5 years. My last MBP was 6 years old.
Yes other than for video editing macOS is literal garbage useless dogshit. I'm done with it for life never ever again going to buy one! Only windows ♥️❤❤
I just checked on base model Windows laptops and 95% of them start with 256GB/8GB base models. As Windows have 80%+ of the market then they should lead changes like that and Apple will have to follow. You clearly are anti-Apple, and you should address Windows OEMs rather than trolling Apple.
@@stevenp3176 Actually most RAM is now soldered on Windows ultrabooks so that is incorrect (Galaxy Book3 Pro line for example). Most SSDs are still upgradeable on Windows ultrabooks, but most sensible ultrabook users can easily just use external storage with TB4 and this means you can use your external storage on all your devices. That is the point of Thunderbolt, the need for larger internal storage for most ultrabooks is moot.
It just takes apple close to around 2 dollars for a ssd upgrade to 512gb and they still aren't doing that. Like man okay you're a business but this is a bare minimum customers are asking for.
Made in China, should be 1/2 the price. Upgrades are way too costly, and HD SSD area ridiculous price. I went M2 Mac Mini, a better bang for your buck.
@@muhammadrafay794 Then why does Windows OEMs not do it? You cannot shame Apple and not refer to Windows machines that have 80% of the market and hold a natural monopoly. Apple does what it can to hold that 20% and there is little upside of adding more specs, unless Windows force them to match. Your argument is aimed at the wrong business. Go to Windows videos and ask them to have base 512GB/16GB, that is what a clever person would do (see phones, Apple forced to increase RAM and storage as Android upped their specs). This fundamental misunderstanding of how economies of a tech industry works is frustrating to read time after time.
I'd say a combination of things: -Price increases (mostly outside the US macs have increased massively in price) -Rising inflation rates last year, these consequences are only felt in peopl's pockets after a couple of months so now demand is falling -People have upgraded their computers during the pandemic
I feel that Apple realized that they provided too good of product with the M1 line and the iPhone 13 line that they were future proofed longer than normal. The M1 and A15 chips are beasts. This is a bell that cannot be unrung unless Apple chooses to throttle.
I mean, M1 was a process shrink and M2 wasn't. The incremental nature of M2 should have been obvious to anybody. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Intel/AMD/nVidia have all experienced significant performance boosts in this generation because they, too, have had process shrinks, whereas when they were stuck on the same process, they weren't as good.
They could have held back the M1's performance, but they were smart not to. As noted in the video, it came out at a time of high demand for computers in general, so being there with the right product at the right time was perfect for Apple. They made money then and some of that wouldn't have been there now, as the market is slower for everyone now. And, I do get what you're describing as a consumer. I have an M1 Mac and an iPhone 13 and see no reason whatsoever to upgrade any day soon. But, Apple is better off for me having bought those then.
Not really. 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM are not good at all. I have been used 16GB+ RAM for more than 10 years. Don't want to pay $200 for 8GB upgrade which is
I have the MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max 1TB SSD with 32Gig ram I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon it is so good it handles all of my Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign and 3D CAD Fusion 360 with ease.
I still have the M1 Macbook Air and still performs like new. Never had any issues with it and I think I'm keeping it for more years to come. Easily one of the best Macs I've ever had.
I think a major reason not to upgrade is the inability to upgrade the hardware later. I bought a used 2020 MacBook Air intel chip set two weeks ago because of this. The cost of hard wired in is just too much for a student like myself can afford for a new one presently.
I very satisfied with my 2023 M2 Max MacBook Pro 16”. I upgraded from my 2009 MacBook Pro 13”, so it was much needed. Most likely won’t upgrade for a while.
Nice. I’m about to upgrade from a mid-2014 MacBook Pro 15” (second to last model with the old scissor keyboard, glowing Apple logo, no Touch Bar, and all of the ports). My sights are set on the M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16”.
@@lunnaris474 yes, you are right, as good as the M3 might be, it won’t tempt me. Having this M2 MacBook Pro is amazing, and it’s going to last me at least 6-8 years before I consider thinking about upgrading.
congrats! i got an m2 max mbp 14" (didn't need the bigger screen since i connect it to big monitors when i need that, and i like the smaller/lighter laptop for travel). they're incredible, right? crazy fast startup, battery life, everything's basically 'instant'. love it.
@@bitkahuna I’m happy for you. I love mine. And yes, they are crazy fast. No hint of lag, and I run processor intensive tasks, to its great to have a cool and quiet computer.
Tech is getting better at faster and faster rate . If u only upgrade every 10 years most of those 10 years u will be lagging behind everyone else. I would say 5-7 years is better
I find the prices have gone up massively. Here in Canada the 13" M2 Air is $1449 and the new 15" Air starts at $1749.00. Either way you still only have 8GB ram. Cannot justify the cost.
I recently bought a MacBook Air M2 as my old MacBook Pro 2016 couldn’t cope with many apps and was far too slow. In other words there is no point to switch from M1 to M2, unless you lack the memory or are really switching the use of the Mac, thus are in need for more resources. So in my case I switched after 6 years and expect the cycle will not change.
I’m ignoring his advice and buying the new M2 Max MacBook Pro 16 inch. 😅 This guy forgets that not everyone bought an M1 Mac couple years ago and are still operating on the old Intel chip machines that are 5-8 years old that operated well until the end. The M2 gives me a 2.0 version of the M1 chip and puts me in the apple chip era and I have no doubt the new M2 machine will be the workhorse that helps me get through tough times for the next 5-8 years or more. I’m sure the M3 will be great when it comes out in the fall but that’s a lot of time between now and then. Besides the state of the economy, supply chain crisis, and looming threat of war tells me the story could be different one day down the road too.
Still rocking the original M1 Air I bought in 2020 for $900. Best laptop I've ever owned by a MILE. Probably the best tech purchase I've ever made tbh.
I got an M2 Air last year to replace my 2015 MacBook Air. I needed it for my education. Can’t say I will need to buy again for at least another 5 years.
I bought a 16" full fat M1 Pro with 32gb ram. The best I could buy at the time. I'm a software engineer and can openly admit that this machine as waaaaaaaay over kill for what I need. But I do love to future proof should I ever get into things that require more computer than I need. Never hearts to go beyond your current work load.
16GB is more than enough for software engineering, I need the 32 for game development and heavier workloads smh I'll stick to windows until apple fixes their shitty ram prices
When real world reviews between the M1 Mac Studio and the M2 Pro started to show up, people began to realize there wasn’t as much difference in overall performance as Apple marketing promised. In specific benchmarks maybe, In heavy, sustained workloads, much less.
This doesn't matter in this numbers as the time difference is too small to cover the same audience. Despite all comments here and the typical Fanboy Bullshit from MaxTec, the average lifetime is not 2 or 3 years but more 4 to 5 years for many years. The IRS expect devaluation over 5 years unless it's a special IT job.
Channels like this hyped up the first run of the M1 chips so much that every Apple fan blew their budgets to be included. With the little improvements in the M2 Line up, it's hard to replicate that excitement. The best option is to buy used or wait until M3 sets a new standard for the industry. Either way, we live in an era where almost every computer can get the job done.
It ain't replicating the excitement that's hard, it's the technological improvement that's only possible by switching to an entirely new system architecture that's hard, that's what ultimately dictates hype & excitement, not random UA-cam channels. Not to mention that the decline is a market-wide trend, sales of Intel-based laptops have dropped even harder, so the issue isn't the M2 chip.
I bought into the hype. I’m glad I did because this is a case of a company making a product that doesn’t need to be replaced for quite some time. I can’t imagine needing an upgrade.
I think part of the problem is that Apple has no idea that 256GB Of storage is inadequate these days. that amount was fine in 2013 or so but not today. Minimum should be 512 to 1 TB. So apple pull heads out the sand and pay attention
Seriously back in 2018 before ssds were in every laptop a 1 terabyte hdd was the standard. When every single laptop switched to ssd the standard suddenly turned into 256gb
@@ipodtouch470 In 2013 we had no cloud and surprise Microsoft (which determines their Windows price based on hardware for system sellers) and Apple are among the biggest Cloud providers.
Easy. People went for the first M1 Macbook Pros (14 & 16), and they won't upgrade till next gen (M3) or most likely even later. There you have it! The only way to make people upgrade sooner would be adding a touchscreen or some upgrade-tempting thing like that.
Waiting to see if the M3 will be a disappointment like the M2. The 14" MBP is still looking like a better deal for most. You can't trust the hype anymore.
I think battery life and heat really put the M1 chip miles ahead of the Intel chips. My old Macbook always used to get so hot just watching UA-cam and doing regular work but my 2022 Macbook Air M1 laptop has all-day battery and never gets hot. Honestly, it blows my mind how optimized the battery is. The best work laptop for a CSM/Sales person
EXACTLY. lol who would have thought??? increasing the base model macbook pro from 1449 euro to 2449 euro.... that is literally a 1000 bucks price increase.... what the hell were they thinking was gonna happen...?????
You see the Windows prices, even higher price rises. There is a distinct lack of understanding of basic economics on YT and you fall into this category. There was 30% tech inflation the last year before the new M2 Macs and a 10% devaluation of EU exchange rates. Apple just did what they had to, and of course, all Windows OEMs have followed with their 13th-gen machines (or price-gouged).
@@ahaimes6320 the exchange rate is complete and utter BS. Funny how companies and supporters like you always talk about they had to increase prices because of exchange rate but when the exchange rate gets better and inflation reduces they won’t lower the price lol.
@@bodigames Well the 10% exchange rate is a fact. Look it up as I did in Aug 2022. The dollar was 10% stronger versus Aug 2021. So why you expect Apple to take a hit on that I really do not know? I know 100% if you owned a company and customers wanted you to wipe out 10% for nothing that you would tell them where to go. As for changing prices; the MB Air M2 has already been seen at £1050 (£200 less than launch), so price does vary with time and changes).
In my country an m2 Air with upgraded specs was around $2k, but lacks dual monitor support M1 pro 14 was $2.4k but no longer sold M2 pro 14 is $2.9k Can't get refurbished here I can't justify spending $3k just to be able to use dual monitor so Im gonna be stuck with my m1 air for a long time, I love the specs, jsut hate the lack of ports and dual monitor support.
Unrepairable macbooks that die when soldered SSD goes out? No way! macs are truly expensive, disposable computers. I am still using my 12 year old Lenovo laptop and it's still doing everything I need for my nearly 100% remote IT profession work. No disposable mac needed.
I bought my m2 MBP a couple of days ago for about 2170€. Y'all think it was a bad idea? Honestly, I'm pretty surprised by the form factor and the peripherals of the machine, coming from a windows laptop. Done some js (electron) compiling and the thing is 2x faster than my desktop which I built back in august (about 1.5k€).
A serious terrible decision i see Apple doing is the end of the 27" iMac. In many companies it was the base model for office. Seriously if you used to that you won't get back to 24" and a MacStudio with Display is another huge price increase.
I’m happy with my Max Studio Max for now. I used to me a MBP only guy, but needed to upgrade last year and spend less money that the $5000 CDN my 2019 i9 MBP cost. I miss the portability though & but I am definitely waiting for a machine with the M3. The M2 was a stopgap.
This video just made me realize that my Macbook Pro M1 Max is already 3 years old. It still feels brand new, more power than I will ever need. I’m not sure what new technology will have to come to make me change this monster of a machine.
M1 Was a huge boost to Mac sales, and those buyers aren't compelled to update yet. Compared to their competitors, the drop in Mac sales is remarkabley mild (along with ASUS). Everyone else had sales drop 35-50%
@@datatron100 I just use my GPUs in Davinci Resolve. And actually M1 Air is positively surprising. I can even edit 4k (in HD timeline). It seems it's due to hardware decoders. Con of M1 Air is lack of ProRes decoder/encoder. But raw power of RTX 4080 eats even M2 Max in Davinci.
I do programming in 3 different virtualized operating systems on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14" with 16GB RAM 1TB SSD and it's more than enough for my needs. Buttery smooth Windows, Mac, and Linux (even all at the same time) with lots happening in each of those desktops. Insane. Fan is silent too!
What's your thoughts on how quickly we will see the M3 14" & 16" MacBook Pros? If the M2 MacBook pros were just a stopgap machine, do you think they would be more inclined to replace it sooner with the 3nm chips in the M3? Maybe around October/November 2023 timeframe?
With the M2 Pro/Max releases in fact some studying colleges also bought a M1 Pro at discount, a pretty good deal except you get a very good student discount at a M2 model where you dont have to pay much more. What impresses my the most - One guy got a 32GB Ram and 1TB SSD 14" model for LESS MONEY than my once new 16" M1 Pro base model, the M1 deals are too good and since M2 Pro/Max doesnt give that much improvement if at all (especially considering Ram/Storage options and prices)
I have a Mac mini m1 16 gb( that was great picking) but only 256 gb storage( big mistake) running Logic and cubase with Omnisphere, Serum, etc, smoothly. All I want from apple is a new Mac Studio. If they don't make a new one I will stay with my Mac Mini for at least 3 years more. Killer Machine.
I needed one recently and had a window of opportunity so I got a 13" 16/512 M2 (wanted the small footprint and had a slim budget which ruled out the 14") but I was coming from a Windows laptop I bought in 2020 and the CPU was actually a 2017 8th gen i7 so this is a heckuva upgrade. So I'm good until m5 or m6...
I bought an M1 Mac for myself and for my wife and I don't see any reason to upgrade for another 5 years. I have a separate PC rig for gaming. For everything else I love my M1. Apple should just focus on selling more of the m1s and release a new iteration only when there are mind blowing improvements
Two weeks I bought this Macbook dud for $4,000 for work. I was using a touch screen Lenovo 14 inch which cost $1000 (best computer). Its been 2 weeks of hell. I cant do 90% of the things I was able to do on a cheap lenovo. Talk about touch screen 000. Its my bloody computer, why do I have to go to a store to download app and wala! 98% of the time its not in their stupid store. Our computer manager was shaking his head when he saw me with a Macbook.
For over 15 years now, Mac still can game properly. Their App Store is vertically empty. Even though I do a lot of editing and web browsing on my M1 MBP, once in a while I try to game but it’s just hopeless with limited games and use of apps like origin it’s still terrible. And the prices for this laptops are insane considering the fact that windows laptops half that price can game better than macs. I now own but a Mac and a PC. So long for the Ecosystem😏.
This makes sense. If a Macbook doesn't have all features of the Surface Laptop Studio and the iPad Pro combined I don't get excited to where I can say-that is my main computer/laptop/tablet. So for me Macbooks are out as they are today. So, for someone like me, Apple needs to think more function and useability and less about their own bottom-line.
I’m really not surprised that Apple is losing some ground during this recession. I must admit that I was so awed with the M1 series that I got the iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, and now the iPhone 14 Pro Max to cover my “Apple fix”. I think that there are a lot of people like me that will not be too interested in buying anymore tech stuff as these products were so good….yes, even with the M2 and upcoming M3!
I have two MacBook Air M1’s - one for work and one for personal. For my use cases - office apps, web, email, video calls - the M1-based Macs are still killer two years later. Mine have 16GB ram, so I have plenty of capacity for what I need. These laptops are fabulous!
Looking at the Canalys data you showed at 0:46, it looks like the entire market decreased and Apple was actually had the least decrease compared to other vendors. So I guess I would have to say that it was a macro issue.
I got the M2 Pro 14" in Japan at BIC Camera. With the exchange rate at the time it was $180 cheaper than at home, plus I got the tourist tax refund which saved me a further $300.
Meanwhile newer mac prices will only get higher. No thanks I’d rather stick to my m1 air that still remains overpowered compared to what’s on the current laptop market for the same price and battery life. All this with NO fans with fan noise whilst still remaining cool to the touch is absolute bliss!!
I don't care for laptops/Macbooks anymore anyway, but for very different reasons. I'm more into tablets (With full desktop OSs like Windows, would like Linux options in the future) because they are more physically versatile, modular and mobile use on the go i.e. handheld use then laptops. I've lost interest in M Mabooks and DEFINTELY do not consider iPads remotely usable as "computer replacements" The only Apple device I would consider is an iPad Pro that has FULL MacOS. No restrictions or gatekeeping by Apple. By the time that happens...IF that happens we would probably have tri-folding Windows with phone functionality and Android with greater desktop features (like Dex) tablets on the market. As a gamer I've got a handheld gaming PC (OneXPlayer 2) and they are a growing category. So I'm covered in that area as well (not like I ever considered Apple as a gaming platform and its offerings as proper alternative)
For me its the lack of program support (i am a design engineer using solidworks, ansys, ptc creo and catia) and the other is ssd prices like i can’t even do a backup of my phone because base mac has like 128 or 256 and my phone has the same
My M1 Pro MacBook from 2021 is still covered by Apple Care til early 2025, gonna ride it out til then. Will upgrade when they put FaceID inside the giant notch, I know they're holding it it back on purpose for future upgrades.
The 2020 MBA is the greatest deal on Mac ever. If thinking buying a Mac Mini as server. If don’t have heavy tasks the air is a better deal. You don’t have to buy a UPS.
I have the 16 M1. I’ll only upgrade when ray tracing debut on Apple Silicon. The graphics is where they can improve a lot. Everything else is already blazing fast to me.
I have a MBP from 2018 with the Intel i7 2.7 GHz quad core, and right now, the MBP 14, M2 Pro with 12 CPU and 19 GPU with 1 TB is on sale for 2599 Euro instead of 2999 Euro. Would you recommend upgrading? I can`t find any deals for the M1 chip anymore.
For me it's looking at 2 previous purchases where I can't replace faulty components without spending a lot of money and being without the laptop whilst Apple replace something as basic as a battery. I'm looking at the Framework laptop.
The reason is high inflation with stagnant salaries…people have been getting 10% poorer each year, but it’s even worse than that because CPI doesn’t include rent.
I use my macbook as a host for remote work on my PC. My macbook is 5 years old now and going strong. PC has the power. Apple has the design. I'm winning.
I just bought a mac mini m2 after selling off my macbook air m1. So far Im satisfied and I don’t think ill be buying another one inthe near to medium future.
I'm been a PC/Win user for 30 yrs and a PC/Linux user for the last 10. I don't mind spending $$$ on a premium Apple product. The non-user-upgradeable RAM is an irritation but not a deal-breaker. However, a TOTAL DEAL-BREAKER is Apple's non-user-upgradeable (and low life/longevity) SSD. There are also other YT channels which document other smaller but still significant design/quality problems w/ MBPs. These design choices are clearly in the category of "built-in-obsolescence". It's reprehensible.
People don't have unlimited income; the fact Apple STILL charges $400 per memory upgrade tier, somehow even more for SSD storage and the fact the base price of an M2 device is more than M1, no wonder sales are down... Back in the old days you could upgrade your SSD and memory easily, that's no longer an option, but if you buy the wrong configuration, not only it's overpriced but you're stuck with it.
I purchased the M1 Pro 16 inch last year and I honestly don’t understand how much more performance any one would need ? It’s faster and more powerful than any thing I ever used.
I’m wondering why people call the M2 such a disappointment though. It is like 15-20% faster than the M1. Obviously that means that people with an M1 shouldn’t upgrade, but if you’re just entering (like me), the M2 is a great product.
End of last year I changed all my Androids to Apple. Apple Watch 8, iPad Air, iPhone 14 pro max, iPhone 14 (for work), AirPod pro… thanks to this channel for this expensive investment 😭 Now considering M3 MacBook. Waiting for Max Tech to finish reviewing before making my decision 😜
I recently made a purchase of a Mac Mini M2 Pro, featuring an impressive 32GB RAM, 12-core CPU, and 19-core GPU. However, I've made the decision to return it to Apple due to some issues with display support. Despite having four Thunderbolt ports, it's disappointing that running triple displays over them isn't possible, especially when compared to older Intel Macs that could handle this task with ease. Instead, the display must be split, and one of them must run over HDMI. Additionally, the hefty $400 charge to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB of RAM seems outrageous, especially when you consider that upgrading from 32GB to 64GB on other Macs costs the same amount. It's worth noting that top-spec DDR5 RAM of 64GB can be purchased on Amazon for approximately $200. This is why I won't be buying a new mac device (again) until there are better offerings.
I have a MacMini 2018 that runs tripple monitors and does it fine (but slow, but ok as a software developer, not gamer/content creator). I have no problems to use the HDMI and only 2 thunderbolt. But if i would upgrade, only a MacStudio Ultra would be a thing now and you get them almost new for 3000 while the Mac Mini you mention is 2800 new.
@@llothar68 The spec I mentioned cost less than the mac studio. The m2 chip is considerably faster than an m1 ultra in many aspects, especially for compiling code. It's not worth it as a developer, the mac mini is better.
I see 500 off for the m1 not the m2. You can get cheaper m1 refurb options from Apple that come with a one year guarantee and I see them going for 1850. An extra 150 off of Best Buy’s sales.
A solid analysis. There's so much Apple hate out there that this kind of information turns into a "See, I told you so. Apple sucks!" response. I have the 16" M1 Pro. This thing is so good that there's absolutely no need for someone like me to upgrade, even to the M3 once it comes out. Maybe in 4 years? We'll see!
@@JimKanaris Its what everyone suggested with different facts. I meant, with different reasons, M2 series laptops are worse deals than M1 right now. So if a person wants a Mac, they probably go for something cheaper instead of M2. If a person wants a laptop, new Macs are more expensive for what they give compared to other counter parts. But M1 Air was most selling laptop in the year it came out. Thats why M2 s are worse deals so they sell less.
I have loved all my Macs but with laptops the turning point came for me when an Apple store quoted 2 weeks and £200 to swap out a faulty battery. They also said I would be liable for any other items they felt the need to replace at extra cost. I left the store, thought about it, and have now decided I can't enter that arena again. I will see how the Framework laptop works out as the 16" model emerges. I have an M1 mac Mini which is great but it was so much cheaper. The days of throwing £3.5k at a laptop are over.
For me it was the fact that I couldn't do much on mine. Gaming? Nope. Professional software engineering? It's okay but not any better than Windows. Linux support? Nope. Used to be that I'd boot camp Windows/MacOS for work/play - now I need to carry two computers when I travel. At that point might as well carry one laptop and dual boot Linux and Windows for work/play. My MacBook felt like a Ferrari with square wheels - so much power but I couldn't (or wasn't allowed to) use it
I bought an HP off TV shopping channel and I gave up trying to use it after a day. My sister has it now so I need a Mac 🖥 for business and videos for UA-cam. Those ones from Amazon look like a good choice
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I have the 16 inch, M1, and I won’t upgrade again until Apple makes a MacBook with 4K resolution. Because I also own a , 17.3 inch x17 alianware, and the resolution is way better than my MacBook.
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The base model Macs should START with 512 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM it is ridiculous to pay 400$+ for upgrading from 256 SSD and 8 GB RAM
The pro macbooks have that higher storage and memory as their base, so it's just a small price jump from regular macbook with the same specs (512gb storage and 16gb ram). Regular macbooks cut down the base specs of the pros for people who really cannot afford to spend more
That is a bad business for Apple as they keep the base price low to attract customers, and make their margins from people upgrading. It would break their business model and be a disaster for them.
From a consumer standpoint, I would love this. From a business standpoint, this is not a good move to make. The people who have purchased the new MacBooks and Mac mini machines are loving them a ton.
@@ahaimes6320 Yeah, but you could argue that it would still hold it's value selling an upgraded MacBook than a base MacBook. Even in the used market, those upgraded MacBooks hold their value.
Kind of ridiculous that my phone (Fold 4) has more storage and memory than a base model MBA... I had to shell out practically MBP money for the config I wanted for my MBA. 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM, 10-core GPU. Yes it would've made more financial sense to get the M1 Pro MBP, but the form factor was a deal breaker. Coming from a 2017 macbook (the one with only 1 USBC port), no other choice for me than the MBA. But imagine that 2015-2017 macbook form factor with an M chip... My dream Mac.
The first MAC I bought lasted three years. I bought two more and had the same problem with both. After about 6 months they quit working. I had a warranty and took them to the apple store. When they opened them up, they were rusted inside. I was accused of spilling something on the keyboard, not so. They said my warranty didn't cover the problem. For what I paid for them, I should have been given a new laptop. I will never buy another Apple laptop of any kind.
Same happened with me,, i throw it to the repairshop..Crap
Price hikes in markets outside the US are probably a factor as well. The M2 MacBook Pro 14 inch starts at £2149 in the UK now, which is $2670. The M1 Pro was £1899 if I remember correctly.
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Do you guys pay an additional Sales tax in the UK?
@@airbedruad No. All prices include VAT at 20%.
@@britexpat_l33t The price is about 30% higher than the US starting price, before sales tax (which in my area is 7%). Apple will say that the 30% difference is the VAT plus import duties. If import duties are around 5% plus 20% VAT that is 5% for currency market fluctuations…
@@airbedruad I didn’t say anything about cost differences. I don’t care. The difference is predominantly VAT & the strong USD.
Recession is the reason
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Partly. It does not help that Apple wants to charge full price for a slight upgrade.
I was planning to buy a Mac but did not pull the trigger because the performance gains were not there.
Apple should have waited to upgrade the MacBook Pro line.
The recession has just begun. It’ll get much worse. Much. 💰
Nah, during COVID people still bought MacBook air, this time it's caused by little improvement in performance, this is expected. Apple should focus more on software while keeping the better hardware of previous gen
@@bluebird1954 they should have held out until they had real performance gains.
When you could not get the 3nm tech finalized on a processor then delay the release of the MacBook Pro replacement.
Also do not screw people over that get the base model storage with slower speeds than the M1.
Bought a 16” MBP M1 in Aug 2022. Doing lots of 4K vid editing, triple screen, etc. It’s soooo overkill and I love it. Can’t imagine upgrading for 4-5 years. My last MBP was 6 years old.
Yes other than for video editing macOS is literal garbage useless dogshit. I'm done with it for life never ever again going to buy one! Only windows ♥️❤❤
@@PKperformanceEU Tell us how you really feel. 😂
What are the specs of your mac?
@@EverythingCameFromNothing 32gb 1tb
@@EverythingCameFromNothing 16 / 1TB
For me, it was the ridiculously tiny SSDs that haven’t increased in size for more than 10 years.
I just checked on base model Windows laptops and 95% of them start with 256GB/8GB base models. As Windows have 80%+ of the market then they should lead changes like that and Apple will have to follow. You clearly are anti-Apple, and you should address Windows OEMs rather than trolling Apple.
@@stevenp3176 Actually most RAM is now soldered on Windows ultrabooks so that is incorrect (Galaxy Book3 Pro line for example). Most SSDs are still upgradeable on Windows ultrabooks, but most sensible ultrabook users can easily just use external storage with TB4 and this means you can use your external storage on all your devices. That is the point of Thunderbolt, the need for larger internal storage for most ultrabooks is moot.
It just takes apple close to around 2 dollars for a ssd upgrade to 512gb and they still aren't doing that. Like man okay you're a business but this is a bare minimum customers are asking for.
Made in China, should be 1/2 the price. Upgrades are way too costly, and HD SSD area ridiculous price. I went M2 Mac Mini, a better bang for your buck.
@@muhammadrafay794 Then why does Windows OEMs not do it? You cannot shame Apple and not refer to Windows machines that have 80% of the market and hold a natural monopoly. Apple does what it can to hold that 20% and there is little upside of adding more specs, unless Windows force them to match. Your argument is aimed at the wrong business. Go to Windows videos and ask them to have base 512GB/16GB, that is what a clever person would do (see phones, Apple forced to increase RAM and storage as Android upped their specs). This fundamental misunderstanding of how economies of a tech industry works is frustrating to read time after time.
I'd say a combination of things:
-Price increases (mostly outside the US macs have increased massively in price)
-Rising inflation rates last year, these consequences are only felt in peopl's pockets after a couple of months so now demand is falling
-People have upgraded their computers during the pandemic
The dollar strengthened too, so it makes it more expensive for folks outside the US
I feel that Apple realized that they provided too good of product with the M1 line and the iPhone 13 line that they were future proofed longer than normal. The M1 and A15 chips are beasts. This is a bell that cannot be unrung unless Apple chooses to throttle.
I mean, M1 was a process shrink and M2 wasn't. The incremental nature of M2 should have been obvious to anybody. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Intel/AMD/nVidia have all experienced significant performance boosts in this generation because they, too, have had process shrinks, whereas when they were stuck on the same process, they weren't as good.
Instead, it would be better to choose not to produce and sell product every year.
Thuggin with my MBA Base Model 2020 and my IPhone 13P 128 gb. Won’t upgrade either for couple more years if not later.
They could have held back the M1's performance, but they were smart not to. As noted in the video, it came out at a time of high demand for computers in general, so being there with the right product at the right time was perfect for Apple. They made money then and some of that wouldn't have been there now, as the market is slower for everyone now.
And, I do get what you're describing as a consumer. I have an M1 Mac and an iPhone 13 and see no reason whatsoever to upgrade any day soon. But, Apple is better off for me having bought those then.
Not really. 256GB SSD and 8GB RAM are not good at all. I have been used 16GB+ RAM for more than 10 years. Don't want to pay $200 for 8GB upgrade which is
I have the MacBook Pro 16 M1 Max 1TB SSD with 32Gig ram I have no plans to upgrade anytime soon it is so good it handles all of my Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign and 3D CAD Fusion 360 with ease.
Got the same and love it.
Same machine here. Don’t plan on upgrading for at least 5 years minimum. Monster computer.
I still have the M1 Macbook Air and still performs like new. Never had any issues with it and I think I'm keeping it for more years to come. Easily one of the best Macs I've ever had.
What's your m1 air specs? I am planning to get one in 2023 but unsure to take 8gb or 16gb of ram for simple daily use. Thanks!
@@millman-we3wu I got the base 256Gb of storage and 8Gb of Ram
With inflation, layoffs, etc. people have less money to spend and unless they need a new mac they can wait.
I think a major reason not to upgrade is the inability to upgrade the hardware later. I bought a used 2020 MacBook Air intel chip set two weeks ago because of this. The cost of hard wired in is just too much for a student like myself can afford for a new one presently.
I very satisfied with my 2023 M2 Max MacBook Pro 16”. I upgraded from my 2009 MacBook Pro 13”, so it was much needed. Most likely won’t upgrade for a while.
Nice. I’m about to upgrade from a mid-2014 MacBook Pro 15” (second to last model with the old scissor keyboard, glowing Apple logo, no Touch Bar, and all of the ports). My sights are set on the M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16”.
@@tonyburzio4107 did you not read this person had a 2009 MacBook? They definitely won’t be tempted by the M3
@@lunnaris474 yes, you are right, as good as the M3 might be, it won’t tempt me. Having this M2 MacBook Pro is amazing, and it’s going to last me at least 6-8 years before I consider thinking about upgrading.
congrats! i got an m2 max mbp 14" (didn't need the bigger screen since i connect it to big monitors when i need that, and i like the smaller/lighter laptop for travel). they're incredible, right? crazy fast startup, battery life, everything's basically 'instant'. love it.
@@bitkahuna I’m happy for you. I love mine. And yes, they are crazy fast. No hint of lag, and I run processor intensive tasks, to its great to have a cool and quiet computer.
I'm out of step with the upgrade cycle madness. I think getting a replacement machine every ten years should be early enough.
Tech is getting better at faster and faster rate . If u only upgrade every 10 years most of those 10 years u will be lagging behind everyone else. I would say 5-7 years is better
I find the prices have gone up massively. Here in Canada the 13" M2 Air is $1449 and the new 15" Air starts at $1749.00. Either way you still only have 8GB ram. Cannot justify the cost.
My 1.27kg 16" LG gram allows me to put 2 NVMe SSDs. Macbook defaults and upgrades are just crazy.
I recently bought a MacBook Air M2 as my old MacBook Pro 2016 couldn’t cope with many apps and was far too slow. In other words there is no point to switch from M1 to M2, unless you lack the memory or are really switching the use of the Mac, thus are in need for more resources.
So in my case I switched after 6 years and expect the cycle will not change.
I’m ignoring his advice and buying the new M2 Max MacBook Pro 16 inch. 😅 This guy forgets that not everyone bought an M1 Mac couple years ago and are still operating on the old Intel chip machines that are 5-8 years old that operated well until the end. The M2 gives me a 2.0 version of the M1 chip and puts me in the apple chip era and I have no doubt the new M2 machine will be the workhorse that helps me get through tough times for the next 5-8 years or more. I’m sure the M3 will be great when it comes out in the fall but that’s a lot of time between now and then. Besides the state of the economy, supply chain crisis, and looming threat of war tells me the story could be different one day down the road too.
Max tech exposed Apple M2 for having slower SSD so that’s why sale numbers are down
Still rocking the original M1 Air I bought in 2020 for $900. Best laptop I've ever owned by a MILE. Probably the best tech purchase I've ever made tbh.
Same here. My M1 Air base model just rocks. Waiting for M3 Air, if the specs are up to the mark, I will buy that.
Absolutely agree... Still as "snappy" as it was when I bought it and to me, the build quality is superior to the new M2 Airs.
seriously I picked up the base model for 750 bucks at best buy in 2021. Still no reason to upgrade yet, maybe I’ll swap the battery out in 2 years
I got an M2 Air last year to replace my 2015 MacBook Air. I needed it for my education. Can’t say I will need to buy again for at least another 5 years.
I have an M2 iPad Pro, an M2 AIR, and an M1 Pro MacBook Pro, all specced up, so I'm good, but I love this tech stuff....
I bought a 16" full fat M1 Pro with 32gb ram. The best I could buy at the time. I'm a software engineer and can openly admit that this machine as waaaaaaaay over kill for what I need. But I do love to future proof should I ever get into things that require more computer than I need. Never hearts to go beyond your current work load.
16GB is more than enough for software engineering, I need the 32 for game development and heavier workloads smh
I'll stick to windows until apple fixes their shitty ram prices
When real world reviews between the M1 Mac Studio and the M2 Pro started to show up, people began to realize there wasn’t as much difference in overall performance as Apple marketing promised. In specific benchmarks maybe, In heavy, sustained workloads, much less.
This doesn't matter in this numbers as the time difference is too small to cover the same audience. Despite all comments here and the typical Fanboy Bullshit from MaxTec, the average lifetime is not 2 or 3 years but more 4 to 5 years for many years. The IRS expect devaluation over 5 years unless it's a special IT job.
Channels like this hyped up the first run of the M1 chips so much that every Apple fan blew their budgets to be included. With the little improvements in the M2 Line up, it's hard to replicate that excitement. The best option is to buy used or wait until M3 sets a new standard for the industry. Either way, we live in an era where almost every computer can get the job done.
Yup exactly
It ain't replicating the excitement that's hard, it's the technological improvement that's only possible by switching to an entirely new system architecture that's hard, that's what ultimately dictates hype & excitement, not random UA-cam channels.
Not to mention that the decline is a market-wide trend, sales of Intel-based laptops have dropped even harder, so the issue isn't the M2 chip.
I bought into the hype. I’m glad I did because this is a case of a company making a product that doesn’t need to be replaced for quite some time. I can’t imagine needing an upgrade.
@@kashifkumar1936 yup. Me too. I bough the base 14.2 one and happy everyday since .
M3 will be overkill… M1 could still sustain and be powerful enough for the next 10 years…
I literally bought the base m1 air with the student discount and it’s been working flawlessly since last summer
I think part of the problem is that Apple has no idea that 256GB Of storage is inadequate these days. that amount was fine in 2013 or so but not today. Minimum should be 512 to 1 TB. So apple pull heads out the sand and pay attention
And minimum ram should be 12 gb on air and 20 gb on pro
@@afustin A minimum should be a memory slot and a nvme slot ... i hope the government will enforce this one day.
Seriously back in 2018 before ssds were in every laptop a 1 terabyte hdd was the standard. When every single laptop switched to ssd the standard suddenly turned into 256gb
@@llothar68 why bring the government into it lmao. Just don’t buy it
@@ipodtouch470 In 2013 we had no cloud and surprise Microsoft (which determines their Windows price based on hardware for system sellers) and Apple are among the biggest Cloud providers.
Easy. People went for the first M1 Macbook Pros (14 & 16), and they won't upgrade till next gen (M3) or most likely even later. There you have it! The only way to make people upgrade sooner would be adding a touchscreen or some upgrade-tempting thing like that.
Waiting to see if the M3 will be a disappointment like the M2. The 14" MBP is still looking like a better deal for most. You can't trust the hype anymore.
I read pc mags say m2 is great ? I’m reading sales, promo hype , 🤔🤷♂️. ???
I think battery life and heat really put the M1 chip miles ahead of the Intel chips. My old Macbook always used to get so hot just watching UA-cam and doing regular work but my 2022 Macbook Air M1 laptop has all-day battery and never gets hot. Honestly, it blows my mind how optimized the battery is. The best work laptop for a CSM/Sales person
I went for 512gb 16 gb Ram mbp M1 pro in 2023 than going for same in M2 cause of price and SSD issue and heat issue in new model
Apple tried to push the prices at the maximum. And then sales drop down. This is the limit. LOL.
EXACTLY. lol who would have thought??? increasing the base model macbook pro from 1449 euro to 2449 euro.... that is literally a 1000 bucks price increase.... what the hell were they thinking was gonna happen...?????
You see the Windows prices, even higher price rises. There is a distinct lack of understanding of basic economics on YT and you fall into this category. There was 30% tech inflation the last year before the new M2 Macs and a 10% devaluation of EU exchange rates. Apple just did what they had to, and of course, all Windows OEMs have followed with their 13th-gen machines (or price-gouged).
@@ahaimes6320 the exchange rate is complete and utter BS.
Funny how companies and supporters like you always talk about they had to increase prices because of exchange rate but when the exchange rate gets better and inflation reduces they won’t lower the price lol.
@@bodigames Well the 10% exchange rate is a fact. Look it up as I did in Aug 2022. The dollar was 10% stronger versus Aug 2021. So why you expect Apple to take a hit on that I really do not know? I know 100% if you owned a company and customers wanted you to wipe out 10% for nothing that you would tell them where to go. As for changing prices; the MB Air M2 has already been seen at £1050 (£200 less than launch), so price does vary with time and changes).
In my country an m2 Air with upgraded specs was around $2k, but lacks dual monitor support
M1 pro 14 was $2.4k but no longer sold
M2 pro 14 is $2.9k
Can't get refurbished here
I can't justify spending $3k just to be able to use dual monitor so Im gonna be stuck with my m1 air for a long time, I love the specs, jsut hate the lack of ports and dual monitor support.
Unrepairable macbooks that die when soldered SSD goes out? No way! macs are truly expensive, disposable computers. I am still using my 12 year old Lenovo laptop and it's still doing everything I need for my nearly 100% remote IT profession work. No disposable mac needed.
I bought my m2 MBP a couple of days ago for about 2170€. Y'all think it was a bad idea? Honestly, I'm pretty surprised by the form factor and the peripherals of the machine, coming from a windows laptop. Done some js (electron) compiling and the thing is 2x faster than my desktop which I built back in august (about 1.5k€).
I bought m1 mba 512gb 16gb ram for 1376 euros one week ago, this feels very strong laptop for sure
congrats on your m2 mbp. same here... they're excellent and should be good for many years!
Framework is better.
A serious terrible decision i see Apple doing is the end of the 27" iMac. In many companies it was the base model for office. Seriously if you used to that you won't get back to 24" and a MacStudio with Display is another huge price increase.
I’m happy with my Max Studio Max for now. I used to me a MBP only guy, but needed to upgrade last year and spend less money that the $5000 CDN my 2019 i9 MBP cost. I miss the portability though & but I am definitely waiting for a machine with the M3. The M2 was a stopgap.
This video just made me realize that my Macbook Pro M1 Max is already 3 years old. It still feels brand new, more power than I will ever need. I’m not sure what new technology will have to come to make me change this monster of a machine.
M1 Was a huge boost to Mac sales, and those buyers aren't compelled to update yet. Compared to their competitors, the drop in Mac sales is remarkabley mild (along with ASUS). Everyone else had sales drop 35-50%
I thought about M2 MBP spec'ed out almost to the max, but ended buying M1 Air and RTX 4080 for my PC.
Same for me, going to buy an m2 air and bought a 4090 instead because if you wanna do serious gpu compute you get a desktop
@@datatron100 I just use my GPUs in Davinci Resolve. And actually M1 Air is positively surprising. I can even edit 4k (in HD timeline). It seems it's due to hardware decoders. Con of M1 Air is lack of ProRes decoder/encoder.
But raw power of RTX 4080 eats even M2 Max in Davinci.
I do programming in 3 different virtualized operating systems on my M1 Pro MacBook Pro 14" with 16GB RAM 1TB SSD and it's more than enough for my needs. Buttery smooth Windows, Mac, and Linux (even all at the same time) with lots happening in each of those desktops. Insane. Fan is silent too!
What's your thoughts on how quickly we will see the M3 14" & 16" MacBook Pros? If the M2 MacBook pros were just a stopgap machine, do you think they would be more inclined to replace it sooner with the 3nm chips in the M3? Maybe around October/November 2023 timeframe?
With the M2 Pro/Max releases in fact some studying colleges also bought a M1 Pro at discount, a pretty good deal except you get a very good student discount at a M2 model where you dont have to pay much more.
What impresses my the most - One guy got a 32GB Ram and 1TB SSD 14" model for LESS MONEY than my once new 16" M1 Pro base model, the M1 deals are too good and since M2 Pro/Max doesnt give that much improvement if at all (especially considering Ram/Storage options and prices)
I have a Mac mini m1 16 gb( that was great picking) but only 256 gb storage( big mistake) running Logic and cubase with Omnisphere, Serum, etc, smoothly. All I want from apple is a new Mac Studio. If they don't make a new one I will stay with my Mac Mini for at least 3 years more. Killer Machine.
I went with the 512GB SSD 13” Macbook Pro. Very happy and satisfied with it.
I needed one recently and had a window of opportunity so I got a 13" 16/512 M2 (wanted the small footprint and had a slim budget which ruled out the 14") but I was coming from a Windows laptop I bought in 2020 and the CPU was actually a 2017 8th gen i7 so this is a heckuva upgrade. So I'm good until m5 or m6...
I bought an M1 Mac for myself and for my wife and I don't see any reason to upgrade for another 5 years. I have a separate PC rig for gaming. For everything else I love my M1. Apple should just focus on selling more of the m1s and release a new iteration only when there are mind blowing improvements
Two weeks I bought this Macbook dud for $4,000 for work. I was using a touch screen Lenovo 14 inch which cost $1000 (best computer). Its been 2 weeks of hell. I cant do 90% of the things I was able to do on a cheap lenovo. Talk about touch screen 000. Its my bloody computer, why do I have to go to a store to download app and wala! 98% of the time its not in their stupid store. Our computer manager was shaking his head when he saw me with a Macbook.
Apple needs to increase the gap between machines. like 3-4 years minimum between 2 chipsets.
Nah that would be competitive suicide
2 years is more reasonable.
I think they should match the industry standards and shoot for a year as they are already doing the same for iPhone
Thanks for great video . Could you do a video on new MacBook airs 13 versus 15
For over 15 years now, Mac still can game properly. Their App Store is vertically empty. Even though I do a lot of editing and web browsing on my M1 MBP, once in a while I try to game but it’s just hopeless with limited games and use of apps like origin it’s still terrible. And the prices for this laptops are insane considering the fact that windows laptops half that price can game better than macs. I now own but a Mac and a PC. So long for the Ecosystem😏.
Simple, they're too damn expensive and why buy a new one when your old one is just as good 🤨
This makes sense. If a Macbook doesn't have all features of the Surface Laptop Studio and the iPad Pro combined I don't get excited to where I can say-that is my main computer/laptop/tablet. So for me Macbooks are out as they are today. So, for someone like me, Apple needs to think more function and useability and less about their own bottom-line.
Went with a refurbished MacBook Pro m1 - 512 GB, 16gb ram from eBay for $850, best price for performance ever
I got my m1 16 inch MacBook Pro last year and have no Intention of upgrading for next 3-5 years as it’s not needed
I’m really not surprised that Apple is losing some ground during this recession. I must admit that I was so awed with the M1 series that I got the iPad Pro, MacBook Pro, and now the iPhone 14 Pro Max to cover my “Apple fix”. I think that there are a lot of people like me that will not be too interested in buying anymore tech stuff as these products were so good….yes, even with the M2 and upcoming M3!
I have two MacBook Air M1’s - one for work and one for personal. For my use cases - office apps, web, email, video calls - the M1-based Macs are still killer two years later. Mine have 16GB ram, so I have plenty of capacity for what I need. These laptops are fabulous!
Looking at the Canalys data you showed at 0:46, it looks like the entire market decreased and Apple was actually had the least decrease compared to other vendors. So I guess I would have to say that it was a macro issue.
Wrong. Yes the whole market is wrong but Apple has the HIGHEST decresase. At least in revenue, where they are down over 40% in money and 28% in units.
I got the M2 Pro 14" in Japan at BIC Camera. With the exchange rate at the time it was $180 cheaper than at home, plus I got the tourist tax refund which saved me a further $300.
Apple is going to have to do A LOT to convince me to upgrade from my M1 MacBook Air. It's still awesome. I think it'll be good until 2030
Meanwhile newer mac prices will only get higher. No thanks I’d rather stick to my m1 air that still remains overpowered compared to what’s on the current laptop market for the same price and battery life. All this with NO fans with fan noise whilst still remaining cool to the touch is absolute bliss!!
I got my 14” MBP with 32 GB of Ram and 1TB of storage for $500 off at BestBuy today!
Looking to get my first MacBook so would yall recommend getting a refurbished M1 Pro?
I don't care for laptops/Macbooks anymore anyway, but for very different reasons.
I'm more into tablets (With full desktop OSs like Windows, would like Linux options in the future) because they are more physically versatile, modular and mobile use on the go i.e. handheld use then laptops.
I've lost interest in M Mabooks and DEFINTELY do not consider iPads remotely usable as "computer replacements"
The only Apple device I would consider is an iPad Pro that has FULL MacOS. No restrictions or gatekeeping by Apple.
By the time that happens...IF that happens we would probably have tri-folding Windows with phone functionality and Android with greater desktop features (like Dex) tablets on the market.
As a gamer I've got a handheld gaming PC (OneXPlayer 2) and they are a growing category. So I'm covered in that area as well (not like I ever considered Apple as a gaming platform and its offerings as proper alternative)
13 inch screen is ridiculously small, I regret not going for a bigger screen
For me its the lack of program support (i am a design engineer using solidworks, ansys, ptc creo and catia) and the other is ssd prices like i can’t even do a backup of my phone because base mac has like 128 or 256 and my phone has the same
My M1 Pro MacBook from 2021 is still covered by Apple Care til early 2025, gonna ride it out til then. Will upgrade when they put FaceID inside the giant notch, I know they're holding it it back on purpose for future upgrades.
The 2020 MBA is the greatest deal on Mac ever. If thinking buying a Mac Mini as server. If don’t have heavy tasks the air is a better deal. You don’t have to buy a UPS.
After the influencers return their products back to the store, the truth comes out. These are always fun videos.
I have the 16 M1. I’ll only upgrade when ray tracing debut on Apple Silicon. The graphics is where they can improve a lot. Everything else is already blazing fast to me.
My BASE M1 Air going on 3 years old still feels brand new. I see no point in upgrading until M3 or even M4 Air.
I just bought a 16” 12 core, 1tb upgraded from a 2021 14” . Mainly just wanted the larger screen, I love it
I agree , upgrade to M2 is not so urgent ! 😂
I have a MBP from 2018 with the Intel i7 2.7 GHz quad core, and right now, the MBP 14, M2 Pro with 12 CPU and 19 GPU with 1 TB is on sale for 2599 Euro instead of 2999 Euro. Would you recommend upgrading? I can`t find any deals for the M1 chip anymore.
I bought 2* macbook pro 13 and macbook pro 14 and 16 last year. It is no point to buy another one anytime soon.
For me it's looking at 2 previous purchases where I can't replace faulty components without spending a lot of money and being without the laptop whilst Apple replace something as basic as a battery. I'm looking at the Framework laptop.
Anti repair design is crap.
The reason is high inflation with stagnant salaries…people have been getting 10% poorer each year, but it’s even worse than that because CPI doesn’t include rent.
Maybe sales are down because I'm not the only one that truly hates the black splotch in the top middle of the screen.
I use my macbook as a host for remote work on my PC. My macbook is 5 years old now and going strong. PC has the power. Apple has the design. I'm winning.
Economic conditions
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M2 just feels like a stop gap
I love how the title says nobody buying them but I just bought one for my lady 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I own a MacBook Pro and they last for a long time - I used my last one for 10 years.
Just picked up an M1 Air for $799. Just love the size and shape of it.
I just bought a mac mini m2 after selling off my macbook air m1. So far Im satisfied and I don’t think ill be buying another one inthe near to medium future.
I'm been a PC/Win user for 30 yrs and a PC/Linux user for the last 10. I don't mind spending $$$ on a premium Apple product.
The non-user-upgradeable RAM is an irritation but not a deal-breaker.
However, a TOTAL DEAL-BREAKER is Apple's non-user-upgradeable (and low life/longevity) SSD.
There are also other YT channels which document other smaller but still significant design/quality problems w/ MBPs.
These design choices are clearly in the category of "built-in-obsolescence". It's reprehensible.
People don't have unlimited income; the fact Apple STILL charges $400 per memory upgrade tier, somehow even more for SSD storage and the fact the base price of an M2 device is more than M1, no wonder sales are down... Back in the old days you could upgrade your SSD and memory easily, that's no longer an option, but if you buy the wrong configuration, not only it's overpriced but you're stuck with it.
I'm good with my mac mini m1 with 16gb of ram. No plan of upgrading.
I purchased the M1 Pro 16 inch last year and I honestly don’t understand how much more performance any one would need ? It’s faster and more powerful than any thing I ever used.
You can not run all the applications for Windows on M1 or M2 only ARM compatible. That is a no go for me. And you need Parallels.
I’m wondering why people call the M2 such a disappointment though. It is like 15-20% faster than the M1. Obviously that means that people with an M1 shouldn’t upgrade, but if you’re just entering (like me), the M2 is a great product.
End of last year I changed all my Androids to Apple.
Apple Watch 8, iPad Air, iPhone 14 pro max, iPhone 14 (for work), AirPod pro… thanks to this channel for this expensive investment 😭
Now considering M3 MacBook.
Waiting for Max Tech to finish reviewing before making my decision 😜
I recently made a purchase of a Mac Mini M2 Pro, featuring an impressive 32GB RAM, 12-core CPU, and 19-core GPU. However, I've made the decision to return it to Apple due to some issues with display support. Despite having four Thunderbolt ports, it's disappointing that running triple displays over them isn't possible, especially when compared to older Intel Macs that could handle this task with ease. Instead, the display must be split, and one of them must run over HDMI.
Additionally, the hefty $400 charge to upgrade from 16GB to 32GB of RAM seems outrageous, especially when you consider that upgrading from 32GB to 64GB on other Macs costs the same amount. It's worth noting that top-spec DDR5 RAM of 64GB can be purchased on Amazon for approximately $200.
This is why I won't be buying a new mac device (again) until there are better offerings.
I have a MacMini 2018 that runs tripple monitors and does it fine (but slow, but ok as a software developer, not gamer/content creator). I have no problems to use the HDMI and only 2 thunderbolt. But if i would upgrade, only a MacStudio Ultra would be a thing now and you get them almost new for 3000 while the Mac Mini you mention is 2800 new.
@@llothar68 The spec I mentioned cost less than the mac studio. The m2 chip is considerably faster than an m1 ultra in many aspects, especially for compiling code. It's not worth it as a developer, the mac mini is better.
Best Buy has MacBook Pros for like $500 off and iPad pros up to 700 off
I see 500 off for the m1 not the m2. You can get cheaper m1 refurb options from Apple that come with a one year guarantee and I see them going for 1850. An extra 150 off of Best Buy’s sales.
A solid analysis. There's so much Apple hate out there that this kind of information turns into a "See, I told you so. Apple sucks!" response. I have the 16" M1 Pro. This thing is so good that there's absolutely no need for someone like me to upgrade, even to the M3 once it comes out. Maybe in 4 years? We'll see!
The problem isnt durability. Its the fact that M2 s are way worse deals than M1.
@@perseus31 I don't think anyone suggested it's the only reason.
The only thing that would make me want to upgrade is a big new leap in screen tech
@@JimKanaris Its what everyone suggested with different facts. I meant, with different reasons, M2 series laptops are worse deals than M1 right now. So if a person wants a Mac, they probably go for something cheaper instead of M2. If a person wants a laptop, new Macs are more expensive for what they give compared to other counter parts. But M1 Air was most selling laptop in the year it came out. Thats why M2 s are worse deals so they sell less.
I have loved all my Macs but with laptops the turning point came for me when an Apple store quoted 2 weeks and £200 to swap out a faulty battery. They also said I would be liable for any other items they felt the need to replace at extra cost. I left the store, thought about it, and have now decided I can't enter that arena again. I will see how the Framework laptop works out as the 16" model emerges. I have an M1 mac Mini which is great but it was so much cheaper. The days of throwing £3.5k at a laptop are over.
The M2 was a step back for the base model, don’t blame it on recession. The M1 is way better value.
A lot of people are in a holding pattern, waiting for M3 Macs to arrive. The moment an M3 Mac Studio arrives I'll be all over it.
For me it was the fact that I couldn't do much on mine.
Gaming? Nope. Professional software engineering? It's okay but not any better than Windows. Linux support? Nope.
Used to be that I'd boot camp Windows/MacOS for work/play - now I need to carry two computers when I travel.
At that point might as well carry one laptop and dual boot Linux and Windows for work/play.
My MacBook felt like a Ferrari with square wheels - so much power but I couldn't (or wasn't allowed to) use it
I stopped buying when they removed the harddisk for the entry level macbooks
I bought an HP off TV shopping channel and I gave up trying to use it after a day. My sister has it now so I need a Mac 🖥 for business and videos for UA-cam. Those ones from Amazon look like a good choice
It has nothing to do with the $4k price for a properly spec model. If the same spec MBP was priced under 3k, these would be selling all year.