3.5 FORD DURATEC WATER PUMP R&R
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- 3.5 FORD DURATEC WATER PUMP repair. In this video I will walk you through the repair process to replace the water pump in the Duratec engine. This water pump is driven by the timing chain and requires a special procedure for setting up the chains and installing the special tools.
RING LIGHT
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FLASHLIGHT HOLSTER
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OBSERVER TOOLS FLASHLIGHT
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STREAMLIGHT HEADLAMP
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AIRLIFT
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COOLANT FUNNEL
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FORD DURATEC TIMING TOOLS
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OIL BASED PAINT PENS
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ANGLED RAZOR BLADE HOLDER/SCRAPER
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I am a retired ford tech, great video but folks you do not have to have the cam alignment tools for this job if you have them great if not it is not life threatning. If you are a great thinker than think about it look at the cams see were you can put a wrench on them get your marks up on the gears place i believe 7/8 open end wrenches stubby's work great use good plastic zip ties and fix the wrenched were thay won't move. I use vice grips with a piece welded on them and fasten to a valve cover bolt hole (aka thinker). Done about 35 this year and one on the way. I do the whole job 950 out the door all motorcraft parts (do not use parts store pumps) i did one were someone used a parts store gnb pump and it did not last 20,000 miles. make damn sure every thing is clean spotless and oil free, when buying brake clean which works great be sure to get the kind that is flammable (read the lable or pull out your lighter and roast your buddy's backside). The non flammable type sux does not clean as good and harder to dry. It sux harder than that sorry safety kleen parts washer solvent///ain't worth a damn. my shop parts washer has kerosene/diesel fuel,, so tell te safety kleen man to take a hike with his environmentally friendly garbage . DO NOT USE A PARTS STORE WATER PUMP GET A MOTORCRAFT PUMP,,, if using a shop other than a ford dealer request a motorcraft pump and ask to see it to make sure that is what you are getting.
Great point about the cam tools. You can get by without cam tools on a lot of vehicles but gotta be careful because not everyone understands this. Thank you for watching
Hey what state are you in I would like to have you do the job
You can do my ford any time my friend are you near mass or nh thanks tom
Hehe, I’m thinking; one could grind off part of that cam phaser tooth so the bolt will simply pass by. This saves loosening anything! On the 5.3 Chev oil sump tube it would also be convenient to switch the bolt to the front of the engine with a modification to the tube retaining pin on the opposite side. I was successful to raise the engine an inch and drop the pan just enough to get my fingers and wrench in there for the inside bolt without dropping the front differential (PTU in Ford). So,,,, Since there is more than that single gear tooth moving the chain it really won’t make a difference or affect the timing as some nay-sayers may bellow now… Oh, Anyone who proclaims some minor ‘imbalance’ may simply grind a tooth off on the opposite side of phaser as well for shits n giggles. You guys make me want to be facetious. Thanks
Ur thr man. I just felt so much relief watching this. Its so overwhelming and i have no choice but to do this in my driveway
Thank you very much. I appreciate you watching.
I wish this video had been around before I did my first one. I did alot of needless work. Nice shameless Olsa & Observer plugs😂😂 Great video as always, thanks for the knowledge. 👍👍
Thanks for watching. Hopefully people find this video and this job is easier for them. I like to recommend tools that are good.
I have that same little set of ignition wrenches. Thanks for the tips. This is going to help a lot.
Your welcome. I appreciate you watching
Excellent Excellent video...no bs, to the point, great job keep it up
Thank you very much I appreciate it. I thank you for watching.
havent watched full video but i seen that the book said to remove cam phaser but i didnt have torx plus sockets to do so and i was able to use a stubby combo wrench to take off the guide to pull pump off.
sweet brotha, happy you were able to get it done. You need to get some torx plus man. lol. thank you for watching
Use full synthetic oil and change coolant often to minimize this potential problem.
Yeah that is the key and will help but unfortunately it is just a common failure. Thank you for watching.
@@NutsandBoltswithTone The water pump on my 2019 Explorer Sport started failing at just over 30k miles. I've always been a diehard Ford guy, but this may be my last "new" Ford. I'll probably go with Toyota, or Honda for my next family cruiser since Ford build quality seems like its gone down a lot over the last 10 yrs or so.
Nice instructions. The first time I saw one of those leaks behind the alternator, I was confused. Quick search and realized that this was designed by the same person that made the hvac cases in the Fusions and Escapes. 😁👍
Thank you. My first time with the weephole through the block was the chrysler 2.7 I think. Weephole is right below thermostat and if you don't know you will replace the thermostat hosting 2 or 3 times before figuring it out. Haha. Thx for watching.
Nice instructions... i would have like to see you put the timming cover on with rtv applied... and seen any tipson how to drop cover in place without making a mess
lol currently at the part where we did the exact same thing. Great minds think alike good video.
Right on! That is so cool man. Thank you for sharing.
Fantastic video! Thank you!
You are very welcome. Thank you for watching
I have seen it when it was ignored,oil looked like a milkshake with metal pieces in the oil pan.It was in a Ford Edge and this one was far too behind replacing the water pump,blew it up good.Dad bought it as a dealer trade in at a dealer only auto auction.I ended up replacing the engine in this one.Book says to drop the engine out in the Ford Edge and Flex
Yeah I've seen that before in a different engine. Sucks. Thanks for watching.
Very informative!! This is awesome Tone !
Thank you very much. And thank you for watching.
Awesome info, Tony. I like the shortcut. Do you recommend chains and guides to customers when you do this repair?
Thank you Steve. It depends on the mileage for chain set. I always replace the tensioner. Thx for watching.
@@NutsandBoltswithTone at what millage, at 75k the tstat failed blowing out the pump gasket now I'm tearing it all apart
Another great video bro!!
Thank you brotha I appreciate it. Thank you for watching.
I just had this repair done the mechanic changed the water pump with a Advance autoparts water pump i was very disappointed! Very disappointing since i paid $1800 kind of stupid in not using a ford part
Wow that is very disappointing. I don't understand people that do that at all. I just diagnosed 2019 Kia needing a blower motor, it's a 6.5 hour job I told my advisor to only sell an oem blower motor. I would only do that water pump with oem part. Thanks for watching
On a 2010 Mazada 6 with 3.7 Duratec, is there enough room to change the water pump without pulling the motor?
I'm not sure tbh. If you message me on Instagram send me your vehicle info I'll look it up. My first thought is no but not for sure. Thanks for watching
Great video, 👍
Thank you I appreciate that and thanks for watching.
how much should it cost to do this repair on a 2010 mazda cx-9 with the ford engine? I am finding that no many car shops are willing to do this repair at all.
If you message me on my instagram I can try to look it up for you and at least give you a labor hour amount.
We're looking at purchasing a used Edge and wondering about preventative measures to not have this failure. Any recommendations?
Honestly there really is not anything you can do to prevent it. Servicing the coolant earlier may help but it is a flaw and unfortunately it is going to leak eventually. Maybe have it replaced when you are ready so you do not get stuck. Thank you for watching.
@@NutsandBoltswithTone If caught soon enough is it catastrophic? Are there any early warning signs? Wondering if checking the oil every fuel fill-up would show signs of milky color sooner, as an indicator to take it in for repair. Open to other thoughts. Would you consider this a deal-breaker issue when looking at purchasing?
@@daviddnelson If you get lucky you'll see a trail of coolant on the bottom AC compressor bolt, but most of the time they fail without warning dumping coolant straight into the oil pan. I do my own services on my Explorer, and recently noticed a few tiny drops of coolant running down the AC compressor bolt. Thankfully mine is still under the original powertrain warranty since it's a 2019 with 39k miles. Keep an eye on this area & you might get lucky enough to catch it before it catastrophically fails.
what sealer can we use to seal a water pump to save the 3.5 engine?
Week or depends on what is leaking. If it's this water pump you cannot use sealant as it's the water pump that failed. Thanks for watching
Do not use sealant on the pump or you could block the passage way for the coolant to reach the weep hole. Pumps comes with rubber seals use only that on a very clean block surface. Timing cover must have sealant as that's how they assembled it at the factory. Ford was to tight to make a timing cover with built in seals like they did with modular engines... Lol.
Great video. Do you have any recommendations on what programs or book/manuals there are for this timing chain and water pump?
Thank you for watching. I am unsure of what to recommend as far as books. I know Alldata offers some plans for one car. I wish I could help you with this. Hit me up o Instagram if you have any further questions.
what parts besides the pump n tensioner will I need, such as gaskets or other?
intake gaskets, rtv, crank seal, valve cover gaskets, coolant, I think that is all you need. Thank you for watching.
hi, i have a question about the marks on the cam and chain, you do that first , right? you mark it?,,,,, the chain and the cam ,,,
..... then you place the camshaft locks in place, and there shouldnt be a problem with the timing...... i have done many water pumps repairs but not one on a chain driven one,,, im a bit scared since i dont know about the timing aspects,, please explain, and thank you
I understand completely. U lock the cams with the tools, mark the sprockets and chains. Then take chains off, when you put it back together the marks should all line up.
sorry to bother again, but the camshaft tool would it work on a 2016 explorer? im trying to make sure,,,thanks again
@@benfernkay8974 hey bud no problem I think it is the same but to be sure if you message me on Instagram I can look it up exactly for u.
I'm stuck on the pulley that goes to the power steering pump. how do you take it off and what tool do you use to stop the 1st pulley from turning?
I am not sure what pulley you are talking about. If you message me on Instagram I can help you more with this it is easier. Thank you for watching.
If you have hydraulic power steering you have to remove the power steering pump. Remove the belt, then take out the 3 bolts that hold the pump on, the bolt heads are 10mm. If you’re good enough, you could remove just the 2 bolts that attach to the cover and back out the third bolt without removing it. It will make it a little easier to realign and install the pump.
Is this the same on the 3.7L engines? They seem to be pretty interchangable.
I believe it is similar. Not sure how similar but seems close. Thx for watching.
Great , informative video. What should this cost at a shop on the same engine?
Thank you 🙏
Thank you very much for watching. I am unsure of the cost, I think it roughly 8 hours of labor.
I’m in bc and the ford dealer rate is $150h, I’ve heard it cost anywhere from 15-2k+ I’d take it to someone who does it properly like he does
Should show the process of taking the parts off not the part after you took off.
I am currently fining an updated video on an Explorer. Stay tuned. I just torqued the water pump on so it should be soon. Thanks for watching
Hello, Did you use gasket sealant on the water pump and timing cover and if so, what type do you recommend? Thank You for making the video.
The water pump should come with a gasket. I use Ford silicone for the timing cover. Thanks for watching
So your not replacing the chain?
I always recommend it but it is up to the customer. Most of the time the customers only buy the water pump. Thank you for watching.
It's nuts you have to do all of this to replace a water pump.
Yeah it is crazy and it is really common. Thanks for watching.
Oh I know now. Just happen to me while traveling for Thanksgiving. Had to look it up after getting the price tag from the shop. Can't really complain after seeing all the work involved. Even if I was at home, it's a little to much for a weekend warrior like myself.
Got the car put back together,but now it won't start. Everything is connected except for one tiny harness that I can't find anywhere to put. It leads from the passenger side of the engine around to the back side of the engine. I looked for 2 hours and didn't find anything. The car turns over, but it hesitates. Then it sputters and dies. Please help!
I wish I could help, two things you have to find where that connects and then see. That could be the crank sensor which keeps it from starting. Message me on Instagram and you can send me pictures
Is it a single green wire?
@@Jaydogg2001 it is a single green wire
I just looked at wife’s car. And it hooks up just under the left side back of the valve cover passenger . Below the valve cover though alittle.
@@Jaydogg2001 thank you! I looked for 2 hours and couldn't find anything. But that doesn't explain the car not starting, so I have another issue to find. I've worked for a week on this car while working a full time job.
3.7l almost same. Hey it's a Ford can it be made more complicated?
Oh ok cool thx for letting me know. Yeah pretty dumb design with very common failure. Thx for watching
@@NutsandBoltswithTone I read your dodge 2.7l water pump comment. Yeah those were weird. The tube never quite fit after wards rotted out pin holes. The oring never was quite right. Water pump and cam orings we're weird.
Leave it to Ford and they'll make it more complicated.
And here I am complaining about putting a starter in a Honda Accord!
haha that is funny Bill. Thank you for watching brotha.
@@NutsandBoltswithTone Funny you say? The stupid FVP replacement failed in my lot!!!Now I get to do it again!!
@@billbeckett1021 man that sucks man sorry to hear that.
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Thank you sand I appreciate ya watching
How much would you say a shop will charge to do this job. Wife’s car just sprung a leak.
Idk if you got an answer, but it's easily over $1000 just for the labor
@@timandjessica4204 yeah I got it. Thanks. Shops wanted around $1600. And it was hard to find one that wanted to do it because of the coolant mixed it with oil. They didn’t want the responsibility of doing job, then having motor problem. Me and a buddy did the job though. Flushed oil three times. Cleaned oil pan with carb cleaner. Seems to be holding up so far. 246,000 on the motor.
I am really sorry I did not get back to you, I would see the comment at night and planned to look it up at work, then I would forget and so and so forth. Sorry about that I apologize. I cannot believe shops would not want to do it because of the oil and coolant mixing. I am happy things are working out. In the future message me on Instagram if you have anymore questions, I have a better time of not forgetting to get back to those, I get a lot of comments on here. Thank you for watching the video.
@@NutsandBoltswithTone yeah I couldn’t believe it also. To me it’s no diff than a blown head gasket. And they do that all the time. I just fig they wanted to throw a used motor in. A couple shops told me that. And a cpl said they didn’t have the special camshaft tools. Me and buddy did it without the tools. I don’t know maybe they just didn’t wanna deal with the job.
The average cost of repairs is $1700- $2100 depending on chassis and required extras,ie. chain, guides, tensioner spark plug tube seals….