Tiger 800 - Oil & Filter change

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  • @BrandenMiller
    @BrandenMiller 3 роки тому +2

    I still refer to this every time I change the oil on my 2018. Thanks!

  • @alanexley4852
    @alanexley4852 3 місяці тому

    All these videos are the best. Thanks they have helped me so much.

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому +2

    Thanks. No DVD cause everythings already on here for free :-) ...there is a donate button in the descriptions though ;-)

  • @GroinsNZ
    @GroinsNZ 9 років тому +13

    Thanks for the tip about using the cardboard :-)

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  9 років тому +3

      GroinsNZ No worries, saves some time and mess

  • @Mike82ARP
    @Mike82ARP 11 років тому +1

    I just watched a bunch of your videos. They are great! You should make a DVD and sell it.

  • @WildRiderz
    @WildRiderz 7 років тому

    Great man thanks. Just got my first XRx and this is what I needed to see. Thanks again

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  7 років тому

      +Motorbike Throttle 👍🏼 enjoy the bike

  • @weemistermac
    @weemistermac 8 років тому

    Thanks a lot @MuddySump. Your vids are brilliant. Just sent a donation. Keep up the good work.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      Got it thanks. Much appreciated 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @duffalopeduffy3308
    @duffalopeduffy3308 6 років тому

    FYI, my shop manual from Triumph says to drain the oil with bike on side stand.

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому

    Thanks. Theres a donate button in the description ;-)

  • @doncaulfield7525
    @doncaulfield7525 2 роки тому

    Thanks so much for all the service content. I'm way more confident having watched it all...do you happen to know the dimensions of the copper washer??

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  2 роки тому

      They don’t use copper washers as standard it’s a thicker aluminium one. I use the oem ones. Can still change them for copper ones though, 14mm is the size you’ll want.

  • @ltripley83
    @ltripley83 5 років тому

    Thanks for this video it's just helped me massively however, how much oil did you put back in?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  5 років тому

      A 4 litre bottle is what you need. Doesn’t take all of it though

  • @bkrjayce
    @bkrjayce 8 років тому

    Great video, used this today! :-)

  • @markymark1180
    @markymark1180 2 роки тому

    Just love all your videos and thank you for making them. Just did mine and the oil filter was fine. I used a new Triumph aluminium crush washer on the sump and torqued to 25nm - checked with 2 different torque wrenches but I am still getting a slight leak (wet finger after a day of rest). Is it alright to go tighter - maybe the crush washer needs a bit extra when first used or do you think there is another issue. Is it critical which way up the crush washer goes ? The bolt fitted fine and easily and not cross threaded -. bike is a Gen 2 - XRX 2015 - 13600 miles, last removed by Destination Triumph at 12k service last year - any advise would be appreciated.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  2 роки тому

      It’s not a crush washer the standard one, just a normal aluminium washer about 3mm thick. Could try giving it a bit more of a tighten but it shouldn’t be leaking. Is it not running down from somewhere else and just ending there?

    • @markymark1180
      @markymark1180 2 роки тому

      @@MuddySump I used triumph part number T3558989 which was domed one side and flat the other. I will have a good look today and see if it's coming from anywhere else. Thank you for your help and advise, If all else fails I will get a new bolt and washer and start again. The oil is Castrol Power 1 and only been in a few days so probably can re-use it. Thank you kind sir.

  • @rockjock1965
    @rockjock1965 Рік тому

    hi does the washer have a part number at all buddy

  • @shawnolson4522
    @shawnolson4522 10 місяців тому

    What size is the drainplug crush washer?

  • @nickaj242
    @nickaj242 7 років тому

    hi Muddy, great video as always. I changed the filter and oil in my Tiger 800 yesterday, however when topping up with new oil, I had no reaction from the sight glass at all. it didn't look like any oil was leaving when drained, and whist adding the new oil, none appeared to be going in. I put approximately 3.5L in (service sheet says that's how much it holds) but I wanted to see if this was a big problem. Bike ran okay this morning to work after a jittery start up. Any ideas? Thanks

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  7 років тому

      +Nick AJ hi nick. Does the sight glass not just need a wipe to get some muck off or something? Should be able to see it quite clear

    • @nickaj242
      @nickaj242 7 років тому

      MuddySump that was my initial thought but I gave it a good clean before I changed the filter/oil and couldn't see anything. the only idea I have is that there wasn't enough oil in there previously to reach the minimum mark, so after draining and refilling it simply doesn't have enough oil to fill the sight glass. but what I don't want to do is overfill. thanks for the quick response

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  7 років тому

      Nick AJ try having someone lean the bike side to side while you're looking in the sight glass. See if you can start to see the oil level then, or even have a look when it's on the side stand

    • @nickaj242
      @nickaj242 7 років тому

      MuddySump thanks muddy, will try this tonight. do you think there's any issue with under-filling the oil? I can't think of why it wouldn't show in the glass

    • @nickaj242
      @nickaj242 7 років тому

      MuddySump still couldn't see anything in the sight glass. I've emailed your enquiries address with a photo of the sight glass if that helps?

  • @methalgear1
    @methalgear1 6 років тому

    How to remove excess oil from the engine?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  6 років тому

      When you’ve filled it up too much? Take the sump plug out but keep it held over the hole so the oil comes out slowly and you can keep putting it back in to check the oil level

  • @olegmartynov287
    @olegmartynov287 3 роки тому +4

    That cardboard trick is pure gold! Thank you!

  • @macmorgan6685
    @macmorgan6685 7 років тому +17

    Should never use Teflon tape on any threaded fitting on an engine. The stuff can get into the oil pump and galleries and ruin your day. Same for too much rtv. Ask me how I know? Worked for MB 45yrs.

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому +3

    Thanks. Its PTFE tape, its made for sealing things like that. Always comes off when taking the bolt out or hanging off the sump like it was in the video. Not necessary but i've always used it so just habit

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому +2

    I use Castrol fully synthetic 10w40. You can use semi synthetic too which is a bit cheaper.
    I replied to loads of comments on my phone but it doesnt seem to have worked. Did you get a reply off me already?

  • @tinks43
    @tinks43 6 років тому +3

    Good call with the cardboard! 👍🏻

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  6 років тому

      I usually just take the sump guard off now for the sake of 6 fasteners. A few drops of oil on the guard get to places you can’t reach then drips on the floor

  • @dasf2008
    @dasf2008 8 років тому +1

    You mention that the engine is warm. Do you suggest to warm up the engine before changing the oil? If so, don't you think you may have issues with removing the engine plug as this is made of a different metal compared to the engine block and they should expand differently upon heat?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому +2

      +Demetrio FILHO yes, change the oil when it's warm. Flows better that way and anything in there will come out if it's freshly circulated. The different metals don't get that hot to make them not separate.

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому

    Its a 1 litre bottle of castrol oil. Comes with a pull out spout. Can get 4 litre bottles too but its a bigger spout so will still need a funnel

  • @HardwareG33k
    @HardwareG33k 4 роки тому +1

    I know it's an older video but it might be useful to mention that the Tiger 800 should be put on the side stand to drain. Otherwise good :)

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  4 роки тому

      I don’t know if it just says that just because they don’t come fitted with a centre stand as standard?

    • @HardwareG33k
      @HardwareG33k 4 роки тому

      @@MuddySump I'm pretty sure it's because the oil then drains better towards the left side where the bolt is. I just did an oil change an mine took about 3.8L, which seems to be more than yours did here.

  • @aWaKeNMoBiUs1970
    @aWaKeNMoBiUs1970 10 років тому +1

    Hi there mate... could you give me specs for the selant washer ( my filter didn't brig it with) :(
    Cheers

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  10 років тому +2

      2mm thick, 22mm outer diameter, 15mm inner diameter. They don't come with the oil filter, have to order it seperate

    • @aWaKeNMoBiUs1970
      @aWaKeNMoBiUs1970 10 років тому

      MuddySump
      Some eBay Kits do bring it. Cheer's

  • @sammy50001
    @sammy50001 11 років тому

    What engine oil is that you're using in the video? Personally I think all engine oils are the same as long as they meet spec...but I like the one that you used in the video because it has a nice pouring mechanism without needing for funnels.

  • @Jeroen1971GSXR
    @Jeroen1971GSXR 11 років тому

    First off, nice videos. Second... why put that white tape on? Doesn't it melt? I wouldn't want to risk getting any of it in the oil. I just dont think it is necessary.

  • @mrakostv8714
    @mrakostv8714 Рік тому

    Winding the sealing tape on the drain plug is a routine procedure or do you do this from operating experience? Are there any cases of oil leakage from under the cork?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  Рік тому +1

      I used to do it at work cause one of the other techs did it. I don’t bother anymore though, they don’t leak with just the sealing washer.

    • @mrakostv8714
      @mrakostv8714 Рік тому

      @@MuddySump I see. Thanks. And then I thought that this is another feature of this bike model.

  • @rocks58
    @rocks58 11 років тому

    Great stuff! Thanks for doing this. Also, just sent my donation and hope others using your info will do the same.

  • @Mike82ARP
    @Mike82ARP 11 років тому

    One other question. Do you recommend any particular brand of oil for the 800?

  • @Just_D.I.Y.
    @Just_D.I.Y. 8 років тому

    Thanks for the video, can I ask why you put plumbers tape on the threads? If they flake off and get into the oil the pieces could cause havoc in the engine. The nylon washer should be enough for sealing imho.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      +Bob Sawatsky it's the way I was trained. Don't use it anymore apart from on the engine plugs if they start weeping. It says to use it in the manual on those

  • @JonathanTheCat397
    @JonathanTheCat397 3 роки тому

    Hi just watched video & noticed the washer looked flexible , i was told that i had to use a copper washer on the sump plug ,would a copper washer be ok as that what ive now got or should i use a flexible washer & if so what type ?
    thanks martin

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  3 роки тому

      It’s not flexible. It’s a pretty thick alloy washer. About 3mm

  • @colinfleming3797
    @colinfleming3797 10 років тому

    Greetings from NZ - just bought an 800 Roadie and gave it a complete service with your help - fantastic videos - thanks

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  10 років тому +1

      Cool. Hope you enjoy the bike ✊👊

  • @mrbackyardmechanic3956
    @mrbackyardmechanic3956 8 років тому

    Plumbers tape tends to fall apart when used with oil applications. "pipe dope" would work good :) nice video. Any major engine issues with that bike?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      +MrBackyardMechanic 👍🏻 nothing with the engine. The gear selector shaft sometimes has a fault where the pin holding the return Spring on breaks off needing a new shaft

    • @mrbackyardmechanic3956
      @mrbackyardmechanic3956 8 років тому

      Would you say it's a good bike for an occasional passenger on board? I've seen comments that it's not, my wife is 5'5" 105 lbs.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      +MrBackyardMechanic never had any problems on mine two up. If the pillion is big/heavy then you definitely know there's someone on the back.

    • @nazirkazi5119
      @nazirkazi5119 2 роки тому

      @@MuddySump Yep, I had my pin break a month ago.. came home shifting by hand-twisting the gears! Luckily it hadn't fallen through so there wasn't any damage.

  • @MindaugasPA
    @MindaugasPA 8 років тому

    Thanks for amazing work, because in my area there is no troumph dealer, but i consider buying one, your videos will be great help!

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому +1

      +fenixas5 👍🏼 where are you that there are no triumph dealerships?

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому

    no problem :-)

  • @threepot
    @threepot 10 років тому

    Should wear gloves handling dirty oil. I wouldn't use pyre tape,could get into engine..block an oil way?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  10 років тому

      I know, I've got some in the garage, keep forgetting to put them on. I've always used it on drain bolts, it was I was told when worked in a shop. Triumph says to use it on the engine plugs on the sides of the engine

  • @Rosbif06600
    @Rosbif06600 4 роки тому

    Great. Better than a workshop manual.
    Is there a specific reason to replace the sump plug washer each time?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  4 роки тому +1

      Less chance of it leaking

  • @kurmisrainas
    @kurmisrainas Рік тому

    Thanks

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  Рік тому

      Thank you 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @pigeonpallz1733
    @pigeonpallz1733 4 роки тому

    Is the moisture bad ? My 2012 tiger has moisture in the sight glass . I am waiting for the oil filter to do a change . could it just be that its over its oil change ? I just got the bike a few weeks ago and haven't ridden more than 100 miles maybe 70 ish miles and have no idea when it was done last . I know that it wasn't smart because the oil was pretty dark in the sight glass but it has been my dream for 25 years to have a bike and I couldn't fight the urge to get out and start practicing . I am not riding until I change the oil . also I got the heavier oil recommended because it is been over 100 f every day for about a month now and I have heard the shifting is more smooth with the 15W oil ?. Thank you again so much for your videos and I hope you and yours are well

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  4 роки тому

      Some long runs should start burning it off. It’s caused by the bike not been used for long and not getting hot enough. Or some people just start them and let them run a few minutes to charge the battery, better to not run it and just put the battery on charge every now and again. That’s all my bikes get these days 😄
      It doesn’t take long for the oil to start looking black, it’s probably fine still

    • @pigeonpallz1733
      @pigeonpallz1733 4 роки тому

      @@MuddySump thank you for the response and for making videos ! I enjoy them and learn a lot from you .

  • @sokopower
    @sokopower 11 років тому

    Thanks !!!!

  • @garethjenkins2879
    @garethjenkins2879 9 місяців тому

    Thanks man. Just completed. Much appreciated 🙏

  • @troyboy986
    @troyboy986 9 років тому

    I better do oil change on mine. Thanks for the cardboard tip too

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  9 років тому +1

      troyboy986 no worries, good luck

  • @JJsiN84
    @JJsiN84 8 років тому

    Yet another great video!
    Thank you for all the hard work. Has really helped me so far with my Tiger 800.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      +Jason Nolet thanks 👍🏼

  • @bigfish1676
    @bigfish1676 3 роки тому

    That oil looked good for at least another 1,000 miles!

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  3 роки тому

      It probably didn’t even have that many miles on it.

  • @ketamyna
    @ketamyna 8 років тому

    hi. do you know what is the torque setting for the sump guard when you put it back on? thanks.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому +1

      Just checked. 10Nm for the nuts, 15Nm for the two front bolts. That's for the plastic guard.

    • @ketamyna
      @ketamyna 8 років тому

      +MuddySump thank you. I thought it was a bit too low but having someone else confirming it it's better. cheers.

  • @MuddySump
    @MuddySump  11 років тому +1

    Wow, thanks a lot. Your actually the first one :-)

  • @raybrookevisnorris346
    @raybrookevisnorris346 7 років тому

    hi, what tool did you use to get the oil filter of

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  7 років тому

      +Dwayne Vis it was just an oil filter socket

  • @xbonezds
    @xbonezds 8 років тому

    Do you know if the OEM skid plate needs to be removed? It seems like it might get in the way of the filter

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      You can get the oil filter off still but it's easier if you remove it cause the oil goes all over the plate too

    • @xbonezds
      @xbonezds 8 років тому

      +MuddySump Thanks. I took off the skid plate and changed out the oil and filter. Do you know the torque specs to reinstall the skid plate?

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      +xbonezds I'm not sure. Just don't over tighten them cause you will brake the rubber mounts

  • @SirThunderPants
    @SirThunderPants 8 років тому

    Where is the best place from which to buy a filter for my 2016 XCX? Do you prefer any particular brand oil filter? Thanks.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      I only use triumph filters. Get them from the dealership

    • @SirThunderPants
      @SirThunderPants 8 років тому

      MuddySump Thank you.

    • @Just_D.I.Y.
      @Just_D.I.Y. 8 років тому

      I use Bosch 3323's, they are about an inch longer than the originals and made by Filtech, just like the Triumph branded filters. More oil capacity is always a good thing.

    • @Just_D.I.Y.
      @Just_D.I.Y. 8 років тому

      Oops, I get them from Amazon when they are on sale and stock up, they are about $14 cdn right now, a little expensive. www.amazon.ca/Bosch-3323-Premium-FILTECH-Filter/dp/B000BZIFV0

    • @raymclaren6687
      @raymclaren6687 5 років тому

      I use Hiflo filters and amsoil 15w50 motorcycle specific oil for tiger 800.

  • @jongsanim
    @jongsanim 9 років тому

    Just wanted to say thank you for these great videos. I just changed my oil (warning light was coming on while running hot), and your vids made it easy as pie.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  9 років тому

      Thanks. Strange that the light was coming on. Was the oil low? Does it still do it now you've changed it?

    • @jongsanim
      @jongsanim 9 років тому

      MuddySump I'm assuming it was low. I drained around 3L (did not change filter) and refilled closer to 3,5ish. The light has not come in since, but I haven't had the same warm circumstances yet ;)

    • @jongsanim
      @jongsanim 9 років тому

      MuddySump Had it in for the 20.000km service where they filled it with 10w40, and now it happens again. At idle when hot (city-driving) the oil-lamp flickers, but when I rev it to 2000 the lamp shuts off again. I'm suspecting it might be too thing, for some reason, thus not maintaining enough oil-pressure, but I haven o idea why it would be too thin seeing Triumph reccomends 10w/40 (and 10w/50).
      Before the service I filled it with 10w50 and did not have the problem.
      Also read it might be water on the oil-pressure switch being wet (water)?
      Meh, think I'l ljust refill with 10w/50 again and see how it goes.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  9 років тому

      Sounds like the oil pressure relief valve faulty. Had the same symptoms happen on 2 triumph americas, oil light flicker while idling then fine when riding. It was an engine split on those to change them, can get it on the tiger with the exhaust and sump off.
      Is it not under warranty anymore?

    • @jongsanim
      @jongsanim 9 років тому

      Warranty ran out ~2 months ago.... I'll see if I can get some good service anyway...

  • @sammy50001
    @sammy50001 11 років тому

    Cool thanks!

  • @dasf2008
    @dasf2008 8 років тому

    Indeed. This makes sense to me. I was scared to remove the plug while the engine was hot because I play with flying models and once I tried to remove an inox plug from a aluminum engine body and the threads came out with the plug :( But in this case it makes totally sense to warm it up. I noticed you do not use the Castrol oil recommended by Triumph. Which one you use? Why? Thank you for your videos. They are very high quality and very useful.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому +1

      Demetrio FILHO it is castrol. 10w40 racing. Fully synthetic

    • @dasf2008
      @dasf2008 8 років тому

      Thanks. The packaging is different than mine and the color as well. I thought it was a different oil.

    • @MuddySump
      @MuddySump  8 років тому

      Demetrio FILHO it comes in a gold bottle now. Oil is still red though

    • @dasf2008
      @dasf2008 8 років тому

      Thanks! Thinking a little more about the problem, I believe the best approach is to untight the plug while it is cold, just to break the seal, and warm up the engine before removing the plug. This way, there will be no issues with the expansion of the different metals and so. I checked and indeed the oil is red and the bottle is gold as you mentioned. Thanks again!