He should have done a grind test on fine, med, coarse to compare. Just wide open coarse didn't help me. I have had the OXO grinder for about a year now. It's nice overall when compared to the Cuisinart. Like the Cuisinart, the OXO can grind 1 pound before overheating and stopping. The OXO is also very quiet. The big complaint with the OXO is the catch cup. It has a design defect causing the cup to vibrate out away from the grinder. This is a major complaint with owners of these units. Look at all the reviews. (I missed that before purchase) Mine snapped in when I first got it and was reviewing it, but the first time I ground beans it quit snapping in. Once in a while it will catch and stay but not often. This is a major design flaw that could be corrected but they refuse to fix it. As you grind you must constantly watch the cup and push it in otherwise it will slide forward and grounds will discharge in between the cup and the base. That's too bad because it makes a nice grinder not so nice. I store my grinder in an overhead cabinet and you can't leave the cup in place because it will slide and fall with every movement. As much as I like the OXO, I am looking for another grinder.
Wow. Nice to have your review. I 'm glad to read your review about the OXO cup vibrating out of its slot....that is a bummer. It appears the Baratza cup doesn't catch all the grinds; this video clearly shows coffee grinds left on the floor of the grinder...that's messy, but I favor it's coarse grind. Thanks for your review
Who uses the absolute coarsest setting on a burr grinder? Why? Odd. I wouldn’t expect any grinder to give consistent results when measuring from essentially off the scale…
The OXO sounds better. So it's been a year, which one are you using for espresso? Also, is there a burr grinder for single dose? Why would I want to grind 4-5 espressos at once?
the only gripe I have with my encore is that its so damn loud lol. but tahts me comign from a hand grinder. it is VERY evenly ground I must say. no powder
Baratza sells parts. You can replace pretty much every bit. Heck, you can upgrade your Baratza using their parts supply. I suspect OXO is not as generous, and will certainly end up in a landfill before the Baratza.
I think you shouldn't go back & re-watch Dan! I don't think u realize he said it was on the highest COARSE setting so it should be VERY coarse! So when u said it isn't as coarse, exactly & this is why it isn't as consistent lol..
What you should have done to get an accurate coffee retention was the weigh your beans first before you grind then weigh after (similar to espresso). You would have a more precise coffee output. One timer on one machine is not the same as another. weighing before and after is practically foolproof.
It would take minutes of grinding to heat up those burrs even a little bit (which presumably are starting at room temperature), and the Oxo has a 30 second timer, so "hot burrs" appears to be a non-issue. Were we looking at the same piles of grounds when speaking of consistency? The grounds on the Oxo side looked FAR more consistent to me.
I have had the Oxo for a couple years now. We grind at setting 3.5 (near the fine end) setting for 30 seconds at a time (usually two batches), and I can say pretty confidently that the burrs don't heat up quickly.
The oxo sucks for coarse grind but it's great for regular all the way to espresso (pressurized) grind. It's very consistent for anything finer than coarse.
Tengo ambos y en el fino el oxo es mucho peor por que have muchas particular finas, el oxo es mucho más cómodo y automático pero el baratza da un mejor resultado en todo
@@SuperGlocker77 Yes, but once they're there thy prevent other grounds from getting stuck as well so I've found the retention to be fairly minimal after the first few grinds. Just needs cleaning every now and then
The Baratza Encore grinder is a piece of crap! After 6 months of ownership, it completely breaks down and stops grinding anything. It's sad that youtubers can be bought off to give positive reviews to absolute crap, playing a role in a horrible cycle between amazon, manufacturers, and streamers, to profit off of the mass sales of expensive crap!
Good mill, but it has a weak point, and that is the grindstone holder, it has three little ears that even if you drop it on the kitchen counter, they break, they should improve that piece.
Very good comparison and Thank You. I have the Barista Encore. It does a very good job. I like it but it has to be brush cleaned thoroughly and blown out with compressed air after every use to ensure that the discharge chute is clear. If you do not do this the coffee in the very small and narrow discharge chute will clog up. If the chute is not clear the beans will not grind. The chute is not a straight down and out design it has a 90degree step turn and drop that is the problem.There are a good number of complaints about grind failure and this clogged chute is the main reason. By the way no one else in our household will use it because having to clean it as I described is a pain in the dupa for everyone else. I bought it and I am stuck with using and cleaning it. So if you do not want to clean it as I described buy something else.
This is very interesting. I notice the shoot has stuck stuff in it at times, so I used the provided wire brush (which I bent at the angle of the chute) to brush it out. I honestly clean it about once every six months and have NEVER got a grind failure, and this is my fourth year using the grinder.
As Garrett mentioned, compressed air and brush after every grind is completely overkill. I also clean mine only a couple times a year, and that's with it being used typically 2-3 times a day. If you find that's actually necessary for you to clean it after every grind, it might be worth checking with Baratza support.
That’s a concern of mine. I have the Capresso and it retains so much coffee in its little right-angle chute that I have to invert and dump the retained grind frequently. Sounds like the Baratza isn’t the answer.
OXO wins this for me hands down. One touch set and forget, so i can walk in the morning hit grind, brew. price. The one difference, "consistency" is not something i care about as all i make are pour overs and i'm not freaking about about it. Will say for the price these things should be smarter and have digital screens.
This actually says nothing about which might have the best flavor for brewed coffee in a medium grind with automatic drip. Consistent grind size does not necessarily mean better tasting coffee for all people. It tends to give a narrower flavor profile, and less richness and complexity compared to a grind with more variation in particle size, assuming there's not a huge amount of fines, which may make it bitter.
It actually goes the other way around. A inconsistent grind is actually more likely to give you a narrower flavor profiles, especially for dripping coffee. It's because during the brewing process water channel will form close to the coarser grounds and result in uneven water flow rate. Most of the water will flow through those water channel and result in a narrower flavor profile that over extract on the coarser grounds. Instead, you want to have an more even grind so that the water will more evenly extract the full rich and complicated flavor from the whole coffee sets. If your coffee taste too bitter, it is an over extraction issue. You can try to increase your grind size, reduce your water temperature, or try to reduce your coffee-to-water ratio.
@@marcofeature That's interesting, that's the first time I heard discussion of coarser particles affecting water flow. I think it might also depend on the showerhead distribution in an automatic brewer as opposed to single spout. In my brewing it has been my experience that a grind with a mixture of sizes, up to a point, creates a more complex brew, as does a finer rather than coarser grind, again, up to the point that there is too much bitterness. Too little coffee will also, counterintuitively, cause bitterness because of over extraction. I suspect this some of the problems I'm having with brewing lately, last couple months, where I'm getting a heavier more bitter flavor regardless of the grind or the grinder, is either probably one of two things--the beans from the roaster I've been using are somehow different or differently processed for handled before they get them or they are slightly over roasting them. Or, As I seem to be having a similar issue to a different degree with a couple other coffees, perhaps the heating element of my coffee maker, which is several years old is deteriorating, affecting flavor. I'm going to get a new coffee maker. I've already spent several hundred dollars trying new grinders.
He should have done a grind test on fine, med, coarse to compare. Just wide open coarse didn't help me.
I have had the OXO grinder for about a year now. It's nice overall when compared to the Cuisinart.
Like the Cuisinart, the OXO can grind 1 pound before overheating and stopping.
The OXO is also very quiet.
The big complaint with the OXO is the catch cup. It has a design defect causing the cup to vibrate out away from the grinder.
This is a major complaint with owners of these units. Look at all the reviews. (I missed that before purchase)
Mine snapped in when I first got it and was reviewing it, but the first time I ground beans it quit snapping in.
Once in a while it will catch and stay but not often. This is a major design flaw that could be corrected but they refuse to fix it.
As you grind you must constantly watch the cup and push it in otherwise it will slide forward and grounds will discharge in between the cup and the base.
That's too bad because it makes a nice grinder not so nice. I store my grinder in an overhead cabinet and you can't leave the cup in place because it will slide and fall with every movement. As much as I like the OXO, I am looking for another grinder.
Wow. Nice to have your review. I 'm glad to read your review about the OXO cup vibrating out of its slot....that is a bummer. It appears the Baratza cup doesn't catch all the grinds; this video clearly shows coffee grinds left on the floor of the grinder...that's messy, but I favor it's coarse grind. Thanks for your review
The fact that you only did one grind size is a huge miss on this video.
This is a french press channel. Perhaps that’s why he only did coarse.
Well, we all knew Oxo grinders suck before he even showed it.
I have the Oxo and I put 1 tablespoon in every morning, so I know it will make just one cup. It's only going to grind the amount of beans you put in.
On the flip side, I'm more interested in the fine setting for espresso.
Who uses the absolute coarsest setting on a burr grinder? Why? Odd. I wouldn’t expect any grinder to give consistent results when measuring from essentially off the scale…
Perfect for perked coffee while camping
Ever heard of cold brew?
I use it for percolator coffee.
French press needs course
5 years ago America's test kitchen said grind consistency doesn't actually matter. What do you think about that?
which one is better for espresso?
The OXO sounds better. So it's been a year, which one are you using for espresso? Also, is there a burr grinder for single dose? Why would I want to grind 4-5 espressos at once?
I use the OXO for espresso and set it at 1 1/2. It’s perfect!
Yo tengo ambos y baratza es mucho mejor , el oxo es un poco más cómodo y silencio pero baratza realmente da mejor molienda en todos los grados.
@@JoseCastillo-ol8eh I don’t understand.
For how many seconds ?
@@kendaalhariri5954 8 seconds
the only gripe I have with my encore is that its so damn loud lol. but tahts me comign from a hand grinder. it is VERY evenly ground I must say. no powder
MIkey Day is doing this review?
How is that not the ONLY thing being discussed here?
Do these have metal burrs or ceramic?
An obsessive (and biased) review sucking the enjoyment out of a decent cup of coffee.
Great video. 🙏
Baratza sells parts. You can replace pretty much every bit. Heck, you can upgrade your Baratza using their parts supply.
I suspect OXO is not as generous, and will certainly end up in a landfill before the Baratza.
Not for nuthin', but button, and hitting both contain "t"s; you should include them in your speach
Gotta love the glottal stop
The Oxo has a significantly more consistent grind based on what you showed. It’s not as course, but it is far more consistent.
Clearly your wrong, maybe take a 2nd look
That oxo grind is considerably less consistent. The biggest particles are nearly the same size as the other, but also much more powdery.
I think you shouldn't go back & re-watch Dan! I don't think u realize he said it was on the highest COARSE setting so it should be VERY coarse! So when u said it isn't as coarse, exactly & this is why it isn't as consistent lol..
What you should have done to get an accurate coffee retention was the weigh your beans first before you grind then weigh after (similar to espresso). You would have a more precise coffee output. One timer on one machine is not the same as another. weighing before and after is practically foolproof.
It would take minutes of grinding to heat up those burrs even a little bit (which presumably are starting at room temperature), and the Oxo has a 30 second timer, so "hot burrs" appears to be a non-issue.
Were we looking at the same piles of grounds when speaking of consistency? The grounds on the Oxo side looked FAR more consistent to me.
Falso si se calientan rápido
I have had the Oxo for a couple years now. We grind at setting 3.5 (near the fine end) setting for 30 seconds at a time (usually two batches), and I can say pretty confidently that the burrs don't heat up quickly.
The oxo sucks for coarse grind but it's great for regular all the way to espresso (pressurized) grind. It's very consistent for anything finer than coarse.
Yes, I'd like to see @frenchpresscoffeelove compare these 2 with mid and fine grinds.
Does it leave a bunch of fine particles in the course grind?
Tengo ambos y en el fino el oxo es mucho peor por que have muchas particular finas, el oxo es mucho más cómodo y automático pero el baratza da un mejor resultado en todo
@@SuperGlocker77 Yes, but once they're there thy prevent other grounds from getting stuck as well so I've found the retention to be fairly minimal after the first few grinds. Just needs cleaning every now and then
It is well known that OXO grinder sucks at coarse grind. So you should qualify the conclusion with "for very corase grind, ..."
not sure why you the Baratza more consistent. Its just looks like a coarser grind to me
Less fines and more uniform.
I agree-and less consistent.
The Baratza Encore grinder is a piece of crap! After 6 months of ownership, it completely breaks down and stops grinding anything. It's sad that youtubers can be bought off to give positive reviews to absolute crap, playing a role in a horrible cycle between amazon, manufacturers, and streamers, to profit off of the mass sales of expensive crap!
Do they grind espresso??
How consistent are these at standard medium grind???
Good mill, but it has a weak point, and that is the grindstone holder, it has three little ears that even if you drop it on the kitchen counter, they break, they should improve that piece.
Very good comparison and Thank You.
I have the Barista Encore. It does a very good job. I like it but it has to be brush cleaned thoroughly and blown out with compressed air after every use to ensure that the discharge chute is clear. If you do not do this the coffee in the very small and narrow discharge chute will clog up. If the chute is not clear the beans will not grind. The chute is not a straight down and out design it has a 90degree step turn and drop that is the problem.There are a good number of complaints about grind failure and this clogged chute is the main reason. By the way no one else in our household will use it because having to clean it as I described is a pain in the dupa for everyone else.
I bought it and I am stuck with using and cleaning it. So if you do not want to clean it as I described buy something else.
This is very interesting. I notice the shoot has stuck stuff in it at times, so I used the provided wire brush (which I bent at the angle of the chute) to brush it out. I honestly clean it about once every six months and have NEVER got a grind failure, and this is my fourth year using the grinder.
As Garrett mentioned, compressed air and brush after every grind is completely overkill. I also clean mine only a couple times a year, and that's with it being used typically 2-3 times a day. If you find that's actually necessary for you to clean it after every grind, it might be worth checking with Baratza support.
Thank you
That’s a concern of mine. I have the Capresso and it retains so much coffee in its little right-angle chute that I have to invert and dump the retained grind frequently. Sounds like the Baratza isn’t the answer.
I've this for over a year and grind beans daily, never run into this issue. Maybe if you're grinding really oily beans, but I don't see it.
Why do just the coarsest grind? Do many different ones including the one for french press and drip.
Have the baratza esp. very messy, at least one foot around it there coffee.
I was waiting for one of the most important features! Which coffee grinder is easier to clean? I'm so disappointed.
OXO wins this for me hands down. One touch set and forget, so i can walk in the morning hit grind, brew. price. The one difference, "consistency" is not something i care about as all i make are pour overs and i'm not freaking about about it. Will say for the price these things should be smarter and have digital screens.
Tengo ambos molino y el baratza encore es mejor en lo que finalmente queremo , la molienda 😂.
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Super helpful thank you. Random question, where did you get that cook book holder in the back? The one that has the little shelves.
This actually says nothing about which might have the best flavor for brewed coffee in a medium grind with automatic drip. Consistent grind size does not necessarily mean better tasting coffee for all people. It tends to give a narrower flavor profile, and less richness and complexity compared to a grind with more variation in particle size, assuming there's not a huge amount of fines, which may make it bitter.
It actually goes the other way around. A inconsistent grind is actually more likely to give you a narrower flavor profiles, especially for dripping coffee. It's because during the brewing process water channel will form close to the coarser grounds and result in uneven water flow rate. Most of the water will flow through those water channel and result in a narrower flavor profile that over extract on the coarser grounds. Instead, you want to have an more even grind so that the water will more evenly extract the full rich and complicated flavor from the whole coffee sets.
If your coffee taste too bitter, it is an over extraction issue. You can try to increase your grind size, reduce your water temperature, or try to reduce your coffee-to-water ratio.
@@marcofeature That's interesting, that's the first time I heard discussion of coarser particles affecting water flow. I think it might also depend on the showerhead distribution in an automatic brewer as opposed to single spout. In my brewing it has been my experience that a grind with a mixture of sizes, up to a point, creates a more complex brew, as does a finer rather than coarser grind, again, up to the point that there is too much bitterness. Too little coffee will also, counterintuitively, cause bitterness because of over extraction.
I suspect this some of the problems I'm having with brewing lately, last couple months, where I'm getting a heavier more bitter flavor regardless of the grind or the grinder, is either probably one of two things--the beans from the roaster I've been using are somehow different or differently processed for handled before they get them or they are slightly over roasting them. Or, As I seem to be having a similar issue to a different degree with a couple other coffees, perhaps the heating element of my coffee maker, which is several years old is deteriorating, affecting flavor. I'm going to get a new coffee maker. I've already spent several hundred dollars trying new grinders.