@@Robby334 I had my own meters put in and said wasn't with them anymore you can always say your leaving the address cancel direct debit and ignore any post from them as it will be to the occupier for the water I write on the front return to sender and on the back I put no contract no joinder no consent I don't understand you and I don't stand under you haven't paid in nearly ten years the TV I just say I don't have one and refuse to give details over the phone just this year started not paying c tax I haven't paid tax on earnings for nearly ten years either hope this helps
It's people like Martin Lewis who understand all the variables in life and who dedicate themselves in their professional subject that should be running this country and not politicians who are only in it for themselves.
All of these tariffs are designed to confuse the consumer nothing else, all smoke and mirrors. This government should take these business's to task, and compel them to be more transparent.
The heat of summer is over - so now is the time to turn your fridge down. Of all of the appliances in your home, refrigeration is the thing that burns through the most wattage. So if you wish to reduce the units used on your next bill, turn down that dial in your fridge as low as you can go - that is to the minimum level required to keep the ice from starting to melt.
@@garnhamrPutting it in the fridge, for starters (I know you were pointing out the same mistake 😉) -16-18⁰C for a freezer and 3-5⁰C for a fridge, usually
I think my fridge-freezer is about 0.5kW a day, typically. I wouldn't say that's the biggest draw: a modern TV or current-gen games-console would use that in around 3-4 hours, or an oven after about 20 minutes of being on Not to mention electric water-heaters and room-heaters, for those without gas
@@jillrossiter8757 I have recently turned mine down to 1. It may be too low if we get any more warm weather - in which case I will turn it up to halfway between 1 and 2 on the dial. Every fridge is different - mine is an ancient Zanussi bought over 30 years ago. So just set it as low as you can get away without your frozen goods starting to dethaw.
Why does it have to be so complicated? I think it's a consequence of the free market. You have to do so much research to avoid being ripped off. Too many rapacious companies out there.
The energy companies are trying to force people to get a smart meter by having a lower tarriff for those but about 20% of smart meters don't work. Also my parents had a small private pension and some savings but still got pension credit so it is definitely worth applying to see.
i dont use my gas heating anymore but between electric and gas the standing charge comes out at nearly 50% of my daily cost which is about 1-60 mostly from a fridge, freezer and a few led lights and a kettle and boiling one saucepan - standing charge should only kick in once you pay say more than £30.00 a week and increase maybe for high users (other than those on medical use needs separate rates ) so if you go cold you dont still have to pay for the luxury of it
If energy companies routinely offered tariffs with reduced standing charges but higher unit prices, then this would help light users, and be a much fairer system, by more accurately paying for what you actually use.
Yes, I used to use such a tariff about a decade ago, and paying no standing-charge but a slightly-higher unit-rate worked well. I've checked recently, but all of the ones which have no standing-charge are something like 40-50p per unit (for electric) 😱
11:52 Unfortunately there's too much greed in the system for that ideal to become reality. They will sell that idea as described but realistically make it more expensive. Morals and ethics have disappeared over the years for businesses, they only create ways to become more profitable, not ways to make it better or more affordable for the consumer
All standing charges see to be the same all rising to around 70p a day. there is disgusting. But why can we not pay for a unit we use. they are far too high. I spend as much on standing charge as I do for units
All energy companies are thieving us, no matter what we do we will pay more. I'm with octopus and was paying £100 a month for Duel fuel, same company charging me £195 a month. how can we all survive on prices like these.
Pension credit is so vague and form a minefield it’s a joke. My mum is disabled with some savings and (late fathers 2 investments worth £1000) on new pension and I’m sure slightly over.
I am a pensioner losing Winter fuel allowance. I have a smart meter for Electricity. Martin, please help me! On 21st Sept 2024 I FIxed with Octopus. Immediately my costs went up - Unit cost - from £22.586 went up to £25.2/ kwh Standing charge - from 49.119 went up to 49.978 per day This went on for a week and my electric costs was much higher than before fixing. Unbelievable! I wrote emails and Octopus wrote back not admitting it was a mistake but insisted that's the best price! This was on 26th Set/2024 and eventually I requested to leave the Fix. Martin - is this right? Octopus increased my price and then Fixed it. I keep saying it is still Sept, Not October yet!
I will not have a Smart Meter, however, had Britain adopted the same system as the EU I would have a smart meter, whereby the smart meters belong to the National Grid and Not private energy companies like they did in UK and a complete mess of it. This is why there is so many problems. In the EU, changing from one company to another is a seamless transaction because all the meters are identical. The private companies in UK have different smart meters that are not compatable with each other.
we go into an energy crisis but this happened before goes up in winter and down in summer what a surprise, now turned fixing energy price into betting, country needs to invest in new tech and keep the energy companies out and feed that into the grid so energy companies dont take advantage, standing rate takes away most of point the getting solar as dont help come winter.
Assuming you have gas and radiators, adjust the central thermostat, or the thermostat on each radiator. And use the timer on your boiler to set when they come on. For electric heaters, they usually have a slider on to adjust the heat output. Newer ones will also have timers, as mandated by EU law. For portable heaters, buy one of those "timer plugs" and it will go off after the time you set
This of no use to us. I claimed pension credit last year . flatly got turned down , Im not getting winter fuel payments . put that in your pipie and smoke it.
Stephan Timms is a con-man, or he is seriousley out of touch with reality, at 69yrs old isn't it time he retired and tried claiming pension credit? THIS GOVERNMENT IS A DISGRACE.
How many companies are striving to make less money? How many companies dont take advantage of making extra money if there is an opportunity? - So Smart meters will bring about lower prices - well yes they would if charges were lowered in low demand times - but they wont will they? The best we are going to get is whatever the current rate is - as the new low rate - you know for those that want their evening meal at 0300hrs - and peak demand will double the charge per Kwhr - so if we live and eat at normal times its going to cost a shed load more.
So who do you think should build the £billions of wind and solar farms? The government? Where do you think they’ll get that money from? Just buy shares in the energy businesses and get dividends, you too can make money
Have not the last gov saved a vast amount of money through covid deaths in that alot saddly passed over pension age. Surely billions was saved. I know that this comes across as not nice thinkging but it's true
This stuff is nonsense, these companies generate billions, the entire thing needs reform. If your low income you should just be able to pay like 10/20/30 a month no fees nothing else, if your on higher income you pay just a little bit more, theres no reason to energy bills to be above 100, 300, it is dumb
This guy very much I see you on TV and I like watching you you make you are very very very smart guy and you makes little sales right but you have some people sit front of the computer trying to steal people account and hacking people accounts on white men I have big for you you you makes lot of sense that's why I love to listen to you I'm dealing with I have a lung cancer I don't know if you have a lung cancer what do you title to do you suppose to work or what Am I like watching your program it's you make me happy when I watch your program bye
Never mind explaining that the British Public are going to pay more. Shouldn't you start with EXPLAINING the amount of profits that these suppliers are making. Then we could get a more balanced view. Maybe mention the salaries and bonuses that these suppliers pay to their upper echelon. You have been bought and pair for Martin.
How anyone ever trusted Labour is beyond me. If Labour were any good with money, they would never lose power in the first place. Tories are far from perfect, I know, but there's a reason they're always voted back in eventually. It's always because Labour have crashed the economy, they've maxed out the credit cards, borrowed right upto the limit.... then spend the next decade blaming the tories for not fixing their mess quick enough (all without ever acknowledging it WAS labours fault in the first place). There's also a reason Labour always chase the young vote too. Youngsters aren't old enough to remember labours failures. Youngsters are gullible and still full of hope and dreams. Our senior citizens are disposable to Labour. Starmer should have his knighthood stripped!!! Disgusting!!!
It is untrue that you need a smart meter for any tariff change or pay by standing order. Clearly Blind children and adults are required by primary legislation to have NO barriers whatsoever to services and can choose under the equalities' legislation how this could e achieved. It maybe a criminal offence for any electricity company to threaten in any way vulnerable person who are blind further charges because of their disabilities. All electricity companies by law must automatically put blind people on the lowest tariff to avoid Ofgem fines. Like the winter fuel means testing scan del blind people don't fill in forms as its not a format for the blind by high court order. If you want to apply for winter fuel and other concessions, they must be automatically targeted on the social services registers at councils. Alll blind people are by legislation on social tariff. Means testing is not the solution. For the blind, a typical 300 winter fuel payment they will never get as they only use cash payments. The burocacy involved in means testing works out for a severely disabled person as an estimated cost of 172.50 for the 300 payment...this is not what we pay taxes for... Just remove all standing charges for the blind completely instead.
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I managed to grow a nest egg of around 120k to over a Million. I'm especially grateful to Adviser Kristine Lynn Weber, for her expertise and exposure to different areas of the market.
I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of information can be a big hurdle. I've been making more than $100k passively by just investing through an advisor, and I don't have to do much work. Inflation or no inflation, my finances remain secure. So I really don't blame people who panic.
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martin lewis flips and flops so bad. he advised earlier in the year to go on the e-on variable rate now he is saying do a fixed deal. he hasnt got a clue he has cost me hundreds of pounds with his advice
I guess with details and information changing all the time. All you can do is take what he says with a grain of salt and do your own research the best you can and make the decision which best suits you in that moment.
It won't, the prices are going up regardless... he is such a loser this guy, pretending he will save you money while really saving you £5 a year... real fighter for consumers he is 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Standing Charges are criminal
Don't pay them they are only brokers no contract
@@Wayne-wm6wq how do you stop paying them when its on a computer bill
@@Robby334 I had my own meters put in and said wasn't with them anymore you can always say your leaving the address cancel direct debit and ignore any post from them as it will be to the occupier for the water I write on the front return to sender and on the back I put no contract no joinder no consent I don't understand you and I don't stand under you haven't paid in nearly ten years the TV I just say I don't have one and refuse to give details over the phone just this year started not paying c tax I haven't paid tax on earnings for nearly ten years either hope this helps
@@Robby334 oh I haven't paid electricity or gas for about 18 months
@@Robby334 or go on Richard vobes he might be able to help you
The increase in standing charge destroyed any benefits from price drop.
Ofgem is a sham.
It's people like Martin Lewis who understand all the variables in life and who dedicate themselves in their professional subject that should be running this country and not politicians who are only in it for themselves.
Standard daily change is rip off when you see their profits I only use £500 electricity a year much of which is daily charge
Meters only cost 50 pounds they rob you so I rob them now I don't pay them there's no contract they are only brokers
Ofgem is not fit for purpose under its current puppet leadership.
Thank you for your advice Martin, much appreciated.
All of these tariffs are designed to confuse the consumer nothing else, all smoke and mirrors. This government should take these business's to task, and compel them to be more transparent.
why can't all Parliament take a cutting their wages
On about 90k now with expenses paid and all have tax 'arrangements ' off shore
The heat of summer is over - so now is the time to turn your fridge down. Of all of the appliances in your home, refrigeration is the thing that burns through the most wattage. So if you wish to reduce the units used on your next bill, turn down that dial in your fridge as low as you can go - that is to the minimum level required to keep the ice from starting to melt.
My ice always melts in my fridge? what am i doing wrong?
@@garnhamrPutting it in the fridge, for starters (I know you were pointing out the same mistake 😉)
-16-18⁰C for a freezer and 3-5⁰C for a fridge, usually
I think my fridge-freezer is about 0.5kW a day, typically.
I wouldn't say that's the biggest draw: a modern TV or current-gen games-console would use that in around 3-4 hours, or an oven after about 20 minutes of being on
Not to mention electric water-heaters and room-heaters, for those without gas
What is the best on the dial? 1 or 5?
@@jillrossiter8757 I have recently turned mine down to 1. It may be too low if we get any more warm weather - in which case I will turn it up to halfway between 1 and 2 on the dial. Every fridge is different - mine is an ancient Zanussi bought over 30 years ago. So just set it as low as you can get away without your frozen goods starting to dethaw.
Why does it have to be so complicated? I think it's a consequence of the free market. You have to do so much research to avoid being ripped off. Too many rapacious companies out there.
Very true
NHS hospitals have their heating on throughout the spring and summer!
Thankyou
The energy companies are trying to force people to get a smart meter by having a lower tarriff for those but about 20% of smart meters don't work. Also my parents had a small private pension and some savings but still got pension credit so it is definitely worth applying to see.
Power companies insist on a smart meter, so they have control.
There are companies that have tariffs that do not require you to have a smart meter. Do a bit of research.
i dont use my gas heating anymore but between electric and gas the standing charge comes out at nearly 50% of my daily cost which is about 1-60 mostly from a fridge, freezer and a few led lights and a kettle and boiling one saucepan - standing charge should only kick in once you pay say more than £30.00 a week and increase maybe for high users (other than those on medical use needs separate rates ) so if you go cold you dont still have to pay for the luxury of it
Ofgem should update the price cap annually in april for the whole year
If energy companies routinely offered tariffs with reduced standing charges but higher unit prices, then this would help light users, and be a much fairer system, by more accurately paying for what you actually use.
Yes, I used to use such a tariff about a decade ago, and paying no standing-charge but a slightly-higher unit-rate worked well.
I've checked recently, but all of the ones which have no standing-charge are something like 40-50p per unit (for electric) 😱
The only one who should be the chancellor.
Great explanation
These charges are nothing more than extortion
Great news.
Martin for prime minister 🙌
I pay £ 30 a month for gas and electric standing charges.
lucky u trying charge me 200
11:52 Unfortunately there's too much greed in the system for that ideal to become reality. They will sell that idea as described but realistically make it more expensive. Morals and ethics have disappeared over the years for businesses, they only create ways to become more profitable, not ways to make it better or more affordable for the consumer
My standing charge's are higher then my energy bills :(
With a smart meter they can turn your power off when they want
They can disconnect you with any kind of meter. They can even get a court order to force entry into your property to do it.
But they can't empty your bank account when they hike the prices up can they ?@@AshenVictor
@@AshenVictor I haven't paid in 18 months haven't heard a thing if bailiif comes around I'm in a dispute with them sod them
I have a smart meter and I am paying £180.00 a month, I was paying £234.00 a month and British Gas reckon I owe them £10,000.00.
All standing charges see to be the same all rising to around 70p a day. there is disgusting.
But why can we not pay for a unit we use. they are far too high.
I spend as much on standing charge as I do for units
Should we now be the owners of our energy companies like France?
What is the standing charge for?
Cheers mate
All energy companies are thieving us, no matter what we do we will pay more. I'm with octopus and was paying £100 a month for Duel fuel, same company charging me £195 a month. how can we all survive on prices like these.
Energy companies just making more profit for shareholders.. A no brainer... Tony cuenca
If whole prices have gone down why are these companies allowed to charge more?
What a really informative programme there thanks to Martin & of course Susanna.
I was told going up 10% then in Jan going up 6% then. not a drop. I got this from some one from an energy company
Apparently its said by experts 60% of ALL smart meter readings are charging too much.
Pension credit is so vague and form a minefield it’s a joke. My mum is disabled with some savings and (late fathers 2 investments worth £1000) on new pension and I’m sure slightly over.
I am a pensioner losing Winter fuel allowance.
I have a smart meter for Electricity.
Martin, please help me!
On 21st Sept 2024 I FIxed with Octopus.
Immediately my costs went up -
Unit cost -
from £22.586 went up to £25.2/ kwh
Standing charge -
from 49.119 went up to 49.978 per day
This went on for a week and my electric costs was much higher than before fixing.
Unbelievable!
I wrote emails and Octopus wrote back not admitting it was a mistake but
insisted that's the best price!
This was on 26th Set/2024 and eventually I requested to leave the Fix.
Martin - is this right?
Octopus increased my price and then Fixed it.
I keep saying it is still Sept, Not October yet!
I will not have a Smart Meter, however, had Britain adopted the same system as the EU I would have a smart meter, whereby the smart meters belong to the National Grid and Not private energy companies like they did in UK and a complete mess of it. This is why there is so many problems. In the EU, changing from one company to another is a seamless transaction because all the meters are identical. The private companies in UK have different smart meters that are not compatable with each other.
Fixed my rate
I have recently discovered what the 'price cap' is. It's the maximum MPs pay for energy on their second homes.
Check the winter fuel allowance for your elder neighbours ( with their permission).Let's do it! Beat the ----------
we go into an energy crisis but this happened before goes up in winter and down in summer what a surprise, now turned fixing energy price into betting, country needs to invest in new tech and keep the energy companies out and feed that into the grid so energy companies dont take advantage, standing rate takes away most of point the getting solar as dont help come winter.
Mines cheap i dont pay them they are only brokers
I'm on edf and my tariffs stay the same and i don't have a smart meter
Should take what Martin says with a pinch of, everyone's circumstances are different
Does this apply to non smart gas meters? .about topping up before October
If the fixed rate is affordable and you feel comfortable paying it and it makes you feel secure and not worried then fix it
So starker
All energy costs should be per unit used. We shouldn't have to pay for using nothing.
Why can it not be the same for us all? It is madness
But the fix tariff is more then what you are paying now so the price is higher
A labour govenment trying to con the pensioners of Britain is a disgrace, HOW low can they stoop.
I'll come the MPS can not take a cut in their own wages
is that the same as how come
Smart meter NO WAY
I bet you use a brick mobile phone or better yet just the landline 😂
Everyone should pay the same.
We need to upgrade the old state pension to the new pension so pensioners will be better off.
How about some advice for non smart meter peeps
Ask Martin to explain having to pay ayway if it gets too cold as radiators kick in when its freezing a d can be on all night when you dont realise.
Assuming you have gas and radiators, adjust the central thermostat, or the thermostat on each radiator. And use the timer on your boiler to set when they come on.
For electric heaters, they usually have a slider on to adjust the heat output. Newer ones will also have timers, as mandated by EU law. For portable heaters, buy one of those "timer plugs" and it will go off after the time you set
10% 20%, all MPs will claim it back aspesualy sponge bob Starmer even though Alli will pay it for him.
Unfortunately what happening.
This of no use to us.
I claimed pension credit last year . flatly got turned down ,
Im not getting winter fuel payments . put that in your pipie and smoke it.
I don't trust smart meters reason they can change what they like also they can turn your power when they like
£900? I certainly didn’t get a £900 rise.
So where is that money
Stephan Timms is a con-man, or he is seriousley out of touch with reality, at 69yrs old isn't it time he retired and tried claiming pension credit? THIS GOVERNMENT IS A DISGRACE.
You mean Labour is a Disgrace, stopping Winter fuel allowance.
So starmer is basically playing games with the numbers !
How many companies are striving to make less money? How many companies dont take advantage of making extra money if there is an opportunity? - So Smart meters will bring about lower prices - well yes they would if charges were lowered in low demand times - but they wont will they? The best we are going to get is whatever the current rate is - as the new low rate - you know for those that want their evening meal at 0300hrs - and peak demand will double the charge per Kwhr - so if we live and eat at normal times its going to cost a shed load more.
So guessing you use the top up card because of your scepticism of technology
Theres no contract
Fek it am moving bk to Spain the country is becoming a disgrace
Yes, why pensioners. He keeps saying the same blinking thing
Martin is brilliant we need him in Government
Only consumer are hammered,that’s why energy companies are billions in profit. All in it together. Sic!!
So who do you think should build the £billions of wind and solar farms? The government? Where do you think they’ll get that money from? Just buy shares in the energy businesses and get dividends, you too can make money
@@barrywhite5899 same place has they do to keep outsiders.
@@nessah23 no idea what that means
He never mentions tax avoidance or evasion.
Just another chancer.
Top guy deserves a knighthood.
Have not the last gov saved a vast amount of money through covid deaths in that alot saddly passed over pension age. Surely billions was saved. I know that this comes across as not nice thinkging but it's true
This stuff is nonsense, these companies generate billions, the entire thing needs reform. If your low income you should just be able to pay like 10/20/30 a month no fees nothing else, if your on higher income you pay just a little bit more, theres no reason to energy bills to be above 100, 300, it is dumb
Martin you never give advice on how we can save on a TV licence.
That's why many people who came late to this country, get Pension Credit and Winter Fuel Allowance.
is that joe ninety sitting next to Martin
This guy very much I see you on TV and I like watching you you make you are very very very smart guy and you makes little sales right but you have some people sit front of the computer trying to steal people account and hacking people accounts on white men I have big for you you you makes lot of sense that's why I love to listen to you I'm dealing with I have a lung cancer I don't know if you have a lung cancer what do you title to do you suppose to work or what Am I like watching your program it's you make me happy when I watch your program bye
Never mind explaining that the British Public are going to pay more. Shouldn't you start with EXPLAINING the amount of profits that these suppliers are making. Then we could get
a more balanced view. Maybe mention the salaries and bonuses that these suppliers pay to their upper echelon. You have been bought and pair for Martin.
I wouldn't normally comment on such a thing but Wow, those glasses are really not flattering Susanna.
Yes, agree.
How anyone ever trusted Labour is beyond me.
If Labour were any good with money, they would never lose power in the first place.
Tories are far from perfect, I know, but there's a reason they're always voted back in eventually.
It's always because Labour have crashed the economy, they've maxed out the credit cards, borrowed right upto the limit.... then spend the next decade blaming the tories for not fixing their mess quick enough (all without ever acknowledging it WAS labours fault in the first place).
There's also a reason Labour always chase the young vote too.
Youngsters aren't old enough to remember labours failures.
Youngsters are gullible and still full of hope and dreams.
Our senior citizens are disposable to Labour.
Starmer should have his knighthood stripped!!!
Disgusting!!!
Smart meters will benefit us in the future - all credibility lost right there!!!!!
It is untrue that you need a smart meter for any tariff change or pay by standing order.
Clearly Blind children and adults are required by primary legislation to have NO barriers whatsoever to services and can choose under the equalities' legislation how this could e achieved. It maybe a criminal offence for any electricity company to threaten in any way vulnerable person who are blind further charges because of their disabilities. All electricity companies by law must automatically put blind people on the lowest tariff to avoid Ofgem fines.
Like the winter fuel means testing scan del blind people don't fill in forms as its not a format for the blind by high court order. If you want to apply for winter fuel and other concessions, they must be automatically targeted on the social services registers at councils.
Alll blind people are by legislation on social tariff. Means testing is not the solution.
For the blind, a typical 300 winter fuel payment they will never get as they only use cash payments. The burocacy involved in means testing works out for a severely disabled person as an estimated cost of 172.50 for the 300 payment...this is not what we pay taxes for... Just remove all standing charges for the blind completely instead.
All this martin guy does is run his mouth
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As a beginner investor, it’s essential for you to have a mentor to keep you accountable.
Kristine Lynn Weber is my trade analyst, she has guided me to identify key market trends, pinpointed strategic entry points, and provided risk assessments, ensuring my trades decisions align with market dynamics for optimal returns.
I managed to grow a nest egg of around 120k to over a Million. I'm especially grateful to Adviser Kristine Lynn Weber, for her expertise and exposure to different areas of the market.
I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of
information can be a big hurdle. I've been
making more than $100k passively by just
investing through an advisor, and I don't have
to do much work. Inflation or no inflation, my
finances remain secure. So I really don't blame
people who panic.
Without a doubt! Kristine Lynn Weber is a trader who goes above and beyond. she has an exceptional skill for analyzing market movements and spotting profitable opportunities. Her strategies are meticulously crafted based on thorough research and years of practical experience.
nice! once you hit a big milestone, the next comes easier.. How can i reach her, if you don't mind me asking?
martin lewis flips and flops so bad. he advised earlier in the year to go on the e-on variable rate now he is saying do a fixed deal. he hasnt got a clue he has cost me hundreds of pounds with his advice
I guess with details and information changing all the time. All you can do is take what he says with a grain of salt and do your own research the best you can and make the decision which best suits you in that moment.
All these electricity and gas companies are a complete rip-off making millions and millions in profit every year, it's a disgrace.
He can only advise what is best at the time, and using predictions of what might come ahead.
If you don't like it, just stay on the Price Cap
Yap yap yap...waster
It won't, the prices are going up regardless... he is such a loser this guy, pretending he will save you money while really saving you £5 a year... real fighter for consumers he is 😂😂😂😂😂😂