Setting up breeding colonies
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2024
- Setting up breeding colonies of Labeotropheus fuelleborni of two color morphs: Lavender/Gold and Orange Freckle. Also, Charles discusses the use of inbreeding to set color strains.
Goliad Farms Tropical Fish Hatchery
Great video 👍
Thank you. I try to be informative and maybe even entertaining.
Charles
I absolutely love your description of the value of inbreeding. I hate seeing the knee jerk reaction many people have towards using it as a tool to be used in any of the animal hobbies.
Absent inbreeding, we wouldn't have the high producing crops and animals that support our huge population. Not to mention all the breeds of pets we have.
Charles
@@goliadfarms7029 exactly right.
Never mentioned this before but I really, really appreciate you pronouncing your Latin names correctly.
Thank you. I try. The difficult part is pronouncing proper names many of the fish are named after, especially for me the French names.
Charles
As always is a pleasure to learn from you Charles heart job from Philadelphia
Thank you, and thank you for watching what I hope are educational videos.
Charles
Thanks for explaining your process
Thank you for watching. We'll be doing more videos like this.
Charles
Great work 🐸💚🐸
Thank you for watching.
Charles
Hey if your clearing out a bunch of those trumpet snails your buyer is right here haha
Come on down and get them!
Charles
Can you please show more of the fish while explaining
I will try to do so.
Charles
Thank you 🙏🏻..much appreciated
Nice!
Thank you.
Charles
Just want to know if I can come get fish out of the sump lol . Would be great in my pond at home
We are planning a fish festival next spring and will be offering sump fish to attendees. We are now allowing visitors by appointment only under the Texas agritourism law that limits our liability in case of injury or even death!
Charles
@@goliadfarms7029 great
Labeotropheus fuelleborni are one of my favorite cichlids. I have some blue as well as marmalade. I have not seen an orange one before. Nice looking fish!
I keep looking for new colors to work with. The orange one intrigues me.
Charles
does this system remove nh3 by biofloc method?
Ammonia and its metabolites are removed in our system more passively than in biofloc systems. We allow mulm, loaded with beneficial bacteria, to accumulate in the bottoms of the vats. The fish keep the mulm stirred up which provides some mixing with water and exposing ammonia to the bacteria. Also, we use both submersed and emergent plants that grow rapidly and utilize ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate as fertilizer.
Charles
@@goliadfarms7029 if you raise cichlids according to the biofloc method, you will have 200 cichlids in a 500l tank, each weighing 150g. This method helps you save electricity because using an oxygen pump, easy to control diseases. I want to know why you don't use the biofloc method
A buddy of mine got some obs from you.
I hope he liked them. What variety?
Charles
What is your educational background? I'm guessing you have an advanced degree in the natural sciences. Your knowledge is most impressive.
Didnt know you need a degree to know stuff 🤔...
sounds like alot of experience from years in the hobby
I only have a Bachelor of Science in Zoology from The University of Texas at Austin.
Charles
Lots of years of experience. I started raising fish at 6 years old and never stopped.
Charles
Inbreeding indeed is a great tool, to achieve the characteristics, color & traits you want. I have experimented with birds, and there is no way to prove a crooked toe or beak is from inbreeding, it happens with outcross's too. Yet it's a very controversial topic with neophytes, I say prove it to me it's not a good thing. As long as you breed the best to the best, & hope for the best.
Inbreeding gets a bad reputation from deleterious recessive genes (technically alleles). In populations that have little inbreeding many individuals carry hidden recessives. Inbreeding exposes these recessives. In a highly inbred population, under good selection procedures, the recessives have been exposed and eliminated from the population. Absent inbreeding, we wouldn't have the plants and animals that feed us so well.
Charles
I really enjoy your video, very impressed how you short them out. Question on your sail fin Molly's, when do you feel your numbers be up. To start sell thanks
We should be offering some mollies in January or February...I hope.
Charles
Quick question - what’s the easiest way to differentiate males from females in this line? (LABEOTROPHEUS FUELLEBORNI - Gold)
I don't usually try to sex them until they are over 4" long. The males usually have egg spots on the anal fin, but so do some females. Males do sport pointed anal and dorsal fins, and they are more robust with a slight nuchal (forehead) bump. Some people vent the fish, probe the cloaca to sex them. That seems a bit invasive to me. and subjects the fish to just one more handling.
Charles
Please tell me your Labeotropheus are aquarium strains, both species should have well developed inferior mouths, most that do not I have seen are either highly inbred or crossed w other mbuna causing them to lose that feature, I have a strain of Fuelleborni that I've raised for years that throw both blue males and ob males if you like I can send pics or fry of this representive species, let me know
They are, unfortunately, pure species selected for different color morphs. Like many of the mbunas that have been in the hobby for a long time, they have lost some of the features that made them popular. For an example of what happens after many generations of bad selection practices simply take a look at Melanochromis auratus. Females used to be bright yellow and black but today most are brownish. I try to select Labeotropheus for a good overbite but can only work the genes that are available.
I would certainly be interested stock with a good overbite. Email me at charles@goliadfarms.com.
Charles
like with those two male cichlids 2 is always the worst number of any animal to have, especially for fish. even with the most aggressive fish if you have enough hiding spots and a very very large number of them you can even keep them together relatively safely.
I had two black skirt tetras in a community aquarium way back, one got super beat on and eventually had to be moved. tetras generally should be kept in groups, but they did fine alone and apart in my case.
We can get away with two males in our cichlid breeding colonies since the fish have lots cover in the form of our cichlid hotels and fry cages. Also, 300-gallon vats give the subordinate male pretty of room.
In our 55-gallon sale vats we crowd the fish to prevent aggression.
Charles