What's On Jenny's Bench: Digital Super 8 cartridge, part 1

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024

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  • @frankentrooper
    @frankentrooper Рік тому +12

    Absolutely brilliant!! I'm going to follow this until you get it sorted! YOU'RE A GENIUS!! Cant wait to see how this turns out!!!!

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому +2

      Well thanks! Progress may be a bit on-and-off, but I have another video on its way.

    • @frankentrooper
      @frankentrooper Рік тому +1

      @@jennylist I'm anxiously anticipating it!

  • @RyanFranklinWilliams
    @RyanFranklinWilliams Рік тому +4

    I have two super 8 cameras, so this yes super exciting to me, thanks for sharing!! ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому +1

      Any time! Keep watching, I'll proceed further with this project.

  • @Occulomency
    @Occulomency 8 місяців тому +1

    The algorithm works in mysterious ways. Fascinating video. Looking forward to seeing the results.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  8 місяців тому

      Thanks :)
      I hope you saw the rest of the series. I'm not there yet but I am a lot closer

  • @iainpennington1852
    @iainpennington1852 Рік тому +4

    Thoroughly enjoyed this Jenny- no idea how the algorithms sent this to me, but I’ve just bought two super 8 cameras, so maybe that’s why. I’d love to be able to have the choice of shooting film and digital on them both. Good luck with the project 👏🏻

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      Hi Iain, and thanks! I'll be doing more on the super 8 project in due course, so watch this space.

  • @BradMurray
    @BradMurray Рік тому +3

    Great project and great organization to support! Thanks, Jenny.

  • @dj1NM3
    @dj1NM3 9 місяців тому +2

    I just had a sneaky idea how to trigger the record function on the Rapsi:
    Point a LDR or photodiode at the little screen you're planning to shoot the back of, as there should only be light entering the film gate when the Super-8 camera is actuating its shutter and there should be enough light scattering into the space inside your digital cartridge to pick up.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  8 місяців тому +1

      I've come to a similar conclusion.

  • @GothamArtNews
    @GothamArtNews 2 місяці тому

    Jenny’s list is amazing!!!

  • @bryanbischof4351
    @bryanbischof4351 10 місяців тому +1

    This is very clever.

  • @reashatgalib5758
    @reashatgalib5758 8 місяців тому

    Brilliant engineering , bringing life in this film cameras are godly act.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  8 місяців тому

      Thanks! It's not finished yet, there's more to come on this project.

  • @taylornoel
    @taylornoel Рік тому +1

    Very cool project. Would pay for one of these! Donated btw… thank you for sharing about the org

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      Thanks so much for that, it's really appreciated!
      The cartridge is an ongoing project, so watch this space for more. This channel really is what's on my bench at a particular time, so I take forays off in different directions from time to time.

  • @limpfishyes
    @limpfishyes Рік тому +1

    Love this project. No doubt I'll spend the evening on eBay looking at super8 cameras.
    Maybe the carrier could be adjustable with a couple of screws accessible from inside the cartridge. Left/right forward/back to tune the focus?

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      Thanks :) Always worth looking at second hand shops, so many online sellers seem to think they're made of platinum and very rare (They aren't). The carrier is adhustable with a couple of screws on slides. It's not perfect. The real problem is the film gate assembly.

  • @aldoadasme4668
    @aldoadasme4668 Місяць тому +1

    Hi, is there any way you can make one for my camera?
    I've had one for years and I want to keep using it.
    It's a Keystone XL300, I'd appreciate your help.
    Regards

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Місяць тому

      Sadly not, I'm not in the business of manufacturing.

  • @thecaveofthedead
    @thecaveofthedead 9 місяців тому

    Cool project and cool cause.

  • @markusm.lambers8893
    @markusm.lambers8893 9 місяців тому +1

    Why don't you take off the UV-lens, from the picture-sensor? That will make the sensor less thick. Then add an 'after-market' UV- lens onto the outer objektive. This should work, you will get this one Millimeter off, you needed for proper projection of the images.
    The quality of the video you will get, should be like 'with the UV-filter' again.
    Hope you can finish your project. Sorry for my bad English, it's not my native toung, ... !
    Greeting from Germany,
    Markus (db9pz) - my Ham radio call

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  9 місяців тому

      Imagine the sensor as a glass box a few mm thick, with the light sensitive chip on its back wall. The UV filter isn't the issue but those few mm, they're enough to put the sensor outside the focal plane.

  • @TheDarrenS
    @TheDarrenS Місяць тому

    Only Just came across this, well done. I have quite a few 8s and was wondering how to modelize them so to speak.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Місяць тому +1

      Good luck, and thanks.

    • @TheDarrenS
      @TheDarrenS Місяць тому +1

      @@jennylist Hey Jenny, do you have a stl you would possibly share for that case?>

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Місяць тому

      @@TheDarrenS github.com/JennyList/film-cartridge-models Here you go.

  • @cabe_bedlam
    @cabe_bedlam Рік тому +1

    Lovely collection and super (8?) interesting build!

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      Thanks :) I should add, that's only a subset of the collection of Super 8 cameras I've amassed. It's necessary, because the cartridge has to fit every camera I can find.

  • @I.O.M.
    @I.O.M. Рік тому

    Old meets new. Ingenious idea 💡

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      Thanks! there's more to come with this project, so stay tuned!

  • @dadautube
    @dadautube 11 місяців тому +1

    funny i saw your Single-8 video first and then the part 2 of this series and now this one ... 🙂anyhoots, if the tiny size of the video sensor is too hard to fit within the camera's gate exactly, then why not use a slightly bigger sensor that would fill up not only the entire gate area, but also go further around it to make sure at least part of the sensor fills up the gate fully!? i know already this could not be the perfect solution but it might be a good new starting point? after all, some DSLR cameras already use this little trick for a number of reasons ...

    • @dadautube
      @dadautube 11 місяців тому

      btw, the time length of the Super-8 cartridge is not 5' ... it's 2.5' when shot at 24FPS and more than 3' if shot at 18FPS ... 🙂

    • @dadautube
      @dadautube 11 місяців тому

      i'm also thinking that extra empty space in the digital cartridge can be used for quite a number of things ... 1stly, sound recording circuitry can be installed there ... or extra battery to run more power-hungry micro computers and sensors and so on ...

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  11 місяців тому +1

      The real problem is getting the sensor in the focal plane. It's surprising how much difference as little as a milimetre makes.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  11 місяців тому

      The intent is to replicate a silent cartridge, and let the filmmaker record their own sound. Sound recording in the cartridge is problematic, often there's no way to get the audio signal into the camera.

    • @dadautube
      @dadautube 11 місяців тому

      @@jennylist yes i know about that ... but as you have demonstrated that yourself too, the slight adjustment to the lens trick that works but also turns it into a macro lens instead of a 'normal' one, can now be applied to the sensor itself, by means of some screw / volume thing moving a tiny plate holding the sensor back and forth for fine tuning its distance from the gate ... after all, with some output signal taken directly from the sensor cartridge, its image can also be viewed on a separate monitor outside the camera's cartridge chamber, right? 🙂

  • @spacemansabs
    @spacemansabs 9 місяців тому

    if you make the sensor mounted in a way that you can put sheets of paper below it, you can use them to micro adjust the distance. A sheet of paper is 0.1mm thick which is probably the closest you will get in tolerances anyway out of a 3D printer. It might help you dial it in. :)

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  9 місяців тому

      The original sensor mounting in this video wouldn't be helped by this, but I am using exactly this technique with the latest lens mount.

  • @wooferhound7571
    @wooferhound7571 10 місяців тому

    I would use the Film Advance Pin and take a single photograph everytime it attempts to pull the film down ?

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  10 місяців тому

      It's not the easiest thing to sense, sadly. It's tiny. I have wondered about using a Hall effect device though.

  • @johnwalbolt
    @johnwalbolt Рік тому +1

    What a cool device!

  • @pedade02
    @pedade02 Рік тому

    If you ever sell it, I will buy for sure. Bravo!

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому +1

      It's early for that, but you'll see the progress as it happens.

  • @jayhannah2011
    @jayhannah2011 7 місяців тому

    Is it probably to buy this prebuild as I do not have the. Time to make one

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  7 місяців тому

      No, because it's not finished.

  • @lonva
    @lonva Рік тому

    I had the same idea, and i just saw your video ! i'm following you :)

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! I'm momentarily diverted into Single 8, but things are happening with this project and I'll be back with it soon.

  • @RotarySMP
    @RotarySMP Рік тому

    Cool project.

  • @misterairgap4830
    @misterairgap4830 Рік тому +1

    Amazing!

  • @JP_Gagnon
    @JP_Gagnon 9 місяців тому

    Do you sell the 3D print design or can you send it if we want to buy it?

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  9 місяців тому +1

      I will make the final version freely downloadable as an open source project.

  • @kweenslvt3911
    @kweenslvt3911 Рік тому

    amazing work, girl!

  • @Ni5ei
    @Ni5ei Рік тому

    Haven't you tried smaller sensors that would fit in the film gate?

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      No. But there aren't any easily available that are both cheap and easily interface to a Pi.

  • @AClarke2007
    @AClarke2007 Рік тому +1

    Take the UV filter off too and put one on the lens instead.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому +1

      The filter on those sensors is glass, and it's almost impossible to remove without damaging the sensor chip, sadly.

    • @AClarke2007
      @AClarke2007 Рік тому

      @@jennylist I thought I saw some other UA-cam Videos that show removing the IR Filter on some sensors to make them into Infra-Red Cameras?

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      I've seen it done on cameras where the filter is a plastic film, but this one appears to be the glass. Of course, there are many different camera sensors out there.

  • @TheEPROM9
    @TheEPROM9 10 місяців тому

    That is a good cause.

  • @jemusu8271
    @jemusu8271 Місяць тому

    Could I commission you for one of these? Thanks

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Місяць тому

      Sadly not, I'm not a manufacturer.

    • @jemusu8271
      @jemusu8271 17 днів тому

      @@jennylist damn, well great video regardless ^-^

  • @turan-101
    @turan-101 Рік тому

    Salam. Bu kartriclərdən hardan almaq olar?

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому +1

      Sadə cavab: edə bilməzsiniz. Bu, şəxsi layihədir. Düzgün işləyən birini düzəltsəm, özünüzün necə düzəltməyin təfərrüatlarını təqdim edəcəyəm. Ümid edirəm ki, Google Tərcümə burada yaxşı iş görüb.

    • @turan-101
      @turan-101 11 місяців тому

      @@jennylist 🙏

  • @sharptoothtrex4486
    @sharptoothtrex4486 Рік тому

    I know you make millions and millions of dollars doing such a business like this even for many independent film studios using Super 8 film cameras. Think of all the great movies they might make.

    • @jennylist
      @jennylist  Рік тому

      I don't think for an instant that such a business would be successful,. There has been no volume production of Super 8 cameras in many decades, and meanwhile a reasonably good quality modern camera such as a mirror less compact can be had for only a few hundred dollars.
      The value of Super 8 for film makers lies in the properties of the film itself, which this doesn't replicate. Also there is a mystique about working with real film for them, which this cartridge can't possibly replace.

    • @sharptoothtrex4486
      @sharptoothtrex4486 Рік тому

      @@jennylist Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    • @sebastienarseneault2602
      @sebastienarseneault2602 10 місяців тому

      Do you charge for this type of service?