Using the stainless handrail was genius. And you may not like the sound of that new exhaust stack, but you created a beautiful piece of mechanical art. Kudos, and thanks for the inspiration!
Thank you very much! I ended up fabricating a different muffler can and am still running this set-up. Here is the video of the current set-up ua-cam.com/video/pV9bMHvDnC0/v-deo.html
This is the best lawn mower u will ever have I have one and I’ve done a lot with it, I’ve been missing with it multiple times and I just put a motorcycle exhaust on it today and I’ve also done a lot of tug of wars with it against my friends lawnmower. I just picked up 4 wheeling tires for it today
Awesome, This machine is still running well and being used on a regular basis for cutting grass...nothing as cool as tug of wars or 4-wheeling. Have fun with it!! Thanks for watching.
The greatest value/ Importance of the stack is to keep heat out of the engine bay, important for air-cooled engines.. looks great. Have to make sure it is mounted to something structural.
I wouldn't say that's the most important part I think the most important part is dont mount it the way he did you got to have that system on some kind of grommets or spring-type bracket if you notice the motor mounts themselves are on grommets so they can move a little bit if you have that exhaust mounted to the cylinder of that thing it's going to be to a fixed point he should at least have grommets or something because he'll end up breaking head bolts and causing all kinds of problems
Keep it. My brother has one on his sears suburban. You can buy a muffler for it for around $50 that will make it sound softer. We used a piece of flat steel and welded a socket to it for an adapter. It actually worked. Lol. It sounds neat the way it is though. Great video!!!!
I think it's too loud. There is way less back pressure. It's visually less tucked and compact. The exhaust system is a good idea ,but i would modify it only if it make it silent. You wanted to make muffler if i understood correctly That's a good idea,even if difficult on monocylinders to lower the sound level. I'm happy you use HD now,it's very nice for the eyes,specially when you are outside. : )
michaelovitch I'm glad you noticed the HD, honestly I didn't give it much thought because it always looked just fine on my computer. My primary reason for the upswept exhaust is to keep the hot exhaust out of the dry grass. My second objective is to make it quiet. I have a larger Stainless Steel can that will replace the smaller can. I think I can mellow out and quiet it down the sound...it's worth a try.
The reason I'm here is that today, after spending hours installing and adjusting a new mower deck, and transferring the old wheels and wheel brackets to the deck, I was mowing, and I I got off to move a branch, but then I sat down again before the mower stopped, and it started up again, which caused a backfire, and the engine started on fire. I quickly removed the hood, and I was by our little cabin on the other end of our land, and the only thing I could find was a bottle of Fantastic spray cleaner. I put out the fire with this. So now, I need a new wiring harness, muffler and spark arrester. But now I'm thinking that a muffler like this would keep those sparks away from the engine as well. Oh, what caught on fire was all of the oily grass clippings coating so much of the engine and surrounding parts. I think from now on I'll keep all that cleaned off. Let that be a lesson to me!
who would have thought the exhaust pipe was hot!? Man, that was hysterical. what were you thinking? And yes, too loud... You also mounted the exhaust to the frame which will transfer the vibration to the seat.
I did a follow up video where I removed this small can and put a larger "muffler" can on it. It made a HUGE difference and am still running it today. Thanks for watching.
Looks pretty sweet, maybe a little tall for my tastes, but still awesome. I agree with you that its a little on the loud side, but then a again so is my AC 712 with a 12 horse single wanger Kohler. Your craftsman sounds a lot like my AC with the stock exhaust. I'm ready for the weather cap build.
***** This was a sound test, not a final fit-up. I agree that it's likely several inches too tall... and you know it will have a weather cap.... it just has to...lol.
Volusia-ev I really like the idea of having the exhaust and out of my way and out of the grass...I just need to find a larger muffler can to change the tone.
If you notice your motor mounts they are on rubber grommets they have movable connecting points.. The reason for that is because when your mechanisms do their job it needs to have a little bit of play in it if you are mounting your exhaust like that to where it's not movable without a grommet or a spring type bracket you're going to cause a lot of issues with that engine it's not going to be able to move possibly damaging the head or head bolts
You could build a "real" absorption muffler out of that can with a tube inside it with lots of holes (same diameter as the rest of the pipe) and between the can and the tube put in steel or stone wool...that would deepen the tone and lower the noise. It also would help if the can is longer or had more diameter with the mod mentioned above.
Modor An Hey Modor, I agree that the can needs to be larger. I had operator errors with the camera, and didn't show the internal design, but the can has muffler glass packed in there. I'm digging around the hoard this weekend to locate a larger S.S. can to replace this one.
yourbeekeeper Sweeeet :-) I knew it...you thought about the muffler glass. Who am i to tell you something like that...you are the Beekeeper...you know that stuff :-) Digging it, you are da MAN!
Jim Rowlings Hey Jim, I have that can packed with muffler glass... I am thinking I need a bigger can to change the tone... i will be looking around the hoard this weekend and see what I can find in Stainless Steel.
When you install the larger can, keep the drink container. Move it up to the top of the stack and call it a 'resonator'. Tell your friends and neighbors you have a custom 'tuned' exhaust.
I love this project and I love the sound and I love the look. I don't think I'd be too crazy about having exhaust gas in my face all day long while mowing.
Honestly the exhaust blows well above my head. I would get more exhaust in my face with the stock exhaust, I have a follow up video where i replaced the small drink container "muffler" with a larger stainless steel can and it made a world of improvement in reducing the sound. it's called "Craftsman Stainless Exhaust Revisited" Thanks for watching.
I think the the drink container is too small. A larger cylinder would drop the popping noise to a lower level as it would allow more expansion of the exhaust gasses before it exits the pipe. At least in my opinion.
ItsAlwaysRusty Hey Jeff, I agree with your opinion 100%. This is the first completely stainless steel system I have built and I felt compelled to use that drink container to keep it all one material... It definately does not have the room to make good sound. I had operator error with the camera and didn't get any of the "inside the can" video. I packed the can with glass, but I just think the can is just too small. I will expand my search for a larger stainless something or other to use as a muffler.. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Thanks Marvin, the pipes are holding up quite well. I was not happy with the can is used for a muffler and built a new muffler, I have two videos of that process.
+yourbeekeeper yes I saw the other videos and enjoyed them. I would have liked to saw the footage where you made the "flapper" and balanced it. Excellent job
I know it has been over a year, but I have a couple extra Screamin Eagle baffles from some angle cut SE mufflers you can have. I work on small engines also. Did you know the newer small engines with hydraulic lifters should run at higher RPMs and not idled much? Looks great tho!
2LateIWon Thank you... I like the look as well... no fun with a stock muffler...lol. I just wish it sounded better... I could just sit here and wish or I could chop it up and try again....I vote to try again. Digging through the hoard this weekend to see what other (larger) stainless steel cans I have around..Stay tuned.
The funny thing is i can see you doing that lol.....hey if you can't find anything the dollar store had those stainless steel bottles you could tig weld a couple together and your only out a couple dollars. Good luck you know ill be watching
I like it. Might be loud. Put a center pipe with large holes in it down the muffler and stuff it with fire proof insulation. Or buy the biggest tube muffler that will match your pipe but still fit in the water bottle.
57WillysCJ I had operator error with the camera and didn't get any of the "inside the can" video. I have made several mufflers for these small engines and have a good system down for the inside configuration. I packed the can with glass, but I just think the can is just too small..I was married to that size can because it was Stainless Steel and that was the theme I was trying to go with. I don't really mind the loud aspect as long as it sounds good...I don't think it sounds good. I will be digging through the hoard this weekend and see what I can come up with to replace it.
Did you put a vibration dampers between your bracket and the frame? You'll be courting cracking, perhaps on your motor's head if you aren't lucky, some other place on the exhaust if you are. Other than that, I love it. If you want to quiet it down, you can still weld a muffler flange to the end of your pipe. Attach any muffler that fits your flange.
Hey Ron, I did a two part follow up video ( ua-cam.com/video/wuq-maKZnqk/v-deo.html )to this one where i put a different can and it made a HUGE improvement in sound level and tone. To date, I don't have any dampers. The engine is solid mount to the frame and the exhaust is solid to the frame and with around 75-80 hours on the tractor since this video, there have been no issues. Thanks for watching.
I like this fabrication, it looks good but is a bit loud and staccato in tone. As well as idling lower does it rev higher? Like others I am concerned about the possible damage to the close-by wiring and possibly the starter. In addition we have had quite a bit of annoying damage to the exhaust pipework due to cracking caused by engine vibration. To combat this we have added short length of flexible exhaust pipe or rubber engine mount. This has helped a lot but is not a fool proof solution. It is good to see you moving around quite smoothly and easily with your knee injury.
Dan Whiteford Hey Dan, I don't like the tone at all. I am expanding my search for something that is Stainless Steel to make a larger diameter can and replace that drink container. The engine still has the governer so it does not rev any higher, but I was interested that it lowered the idle. it was a chore to weld that thin drink can to the thick pipe and I just bolted it up to test for sound before I made the welds pretty... I don't like the sound so I will be chopping that can out. Final assembly will definately include re-routed wiring and I like the suggestion for a heat shield for the starter.
You need a bigger can and maybe a larger exit. Enough to get some resonance from the sound waves hitting each other. I'm not exactly sure how to calculate it, I haven't messed around with one in a while.
Nicholas Smerk Hi Nicholas, I am fixed as to what pipe size I can use, ( I will not purchase new pipe, but only use what I have on hand) but the can will definately be getting chopped out and replaced with something larger.
I made a follow up video (Craftsman Stainless Exhaust Revisited) where I revisited the "muffler" situation and made it better. I was trying to use what I had laying around in my hoard, but believe me a motorcycle muffler would have worked quite well if I had one.
Sounds like my grandpa's old massey harrison. Now put a soup can on the end to keep the rain out and watch it launch into the air when the engine fires up.
@@yourbeekeeper that's what I'm talkin about. Now get rid of that sissy electric start system and put a hand crank on the end of the crank shaft and you'll have a manly mower.
1944johndeerel I have it packed with glass, but I think it's simply too small to make a good tone. I'm on the hunt for something to make a larger muffler... stay tuned.
I think its a great idea, it gets the fumes up and away from the operator, I hate breathing that stuff in while mowing. I'd build one if I had the skill and gear to do it.
***** Yep... I don't mind loud, but it needs to sound good to off set the volume... this does not sound good, so the loudness is not tolerable. I will make changes. Thanks.
That's was a sweetly built stack YBK but didn't look right on the newer unit, we gotta get you an old Suburban 12 to fit that stack a little bit better. lol
RooneysSears01 hahaha.. Rooney, I really like the look of the Suburbans and the starter/generator setup is pure genius. I have been keeping an eye out for one around me for a few years now and I have not been able to drag one home yet. I look at work like this as a warm up for the real tractors.
Idk if you still got it but maybe try a little dirt bike muffler on the end of it seen a tik tok where a guy did it to a 15 horse and it sounded kinda cool
What were you thinking bro custom fabricator / welder you had to know that pipe was going to be hot I'd like to have a set of them made for a Briggs & Stratton opposed twin what do you think that you would charge for something like that nice video thank you
Rusty Glovebox Hey Rusty! It's not the loud as much as it's the tone. I can handle loud...heck I always wear hearing protection regardless of the sound level..and I will be using it in an area where nobody will complain about it... I just don't like the way it sounds...I like the look of it exhaust, I just will chop out and fabricate a larger muffler to tone it down a bit. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
wtbm123 Hey Terry, I agree completely. I just threw this on to test the sound... I was struggling to get that thin can welded to the thick pipe and before I made the welds pretty I wanted to be sure I liked how it would sound...I don't...it will get chopped off and a larger SS can will replace it. I definately will re-route that wire and I think the starter heat shield is a great idea. Thanks!
Run it right out the back, it wont be to loud if it's not right in your face. Plus they sound cool like that. Just my thoughts, but I'm also not a smart man.
***** hahaha... I actually want to build an exhaust that runs out the back...I think that looks cool too....Just not for a machine I mow with...typically the last couple cuttings of the year are dry and I don't want the exhaust anywhere near the dry grass.
I can't honestly answer that.... It was a recent purchase and I had very little time on the stock muffler. I can say that I have had no issues at all and still use it today.
At 9:55 see what you did? I’m afraid you will probably do that when the pipe is cherry red hot after mowing. Otherwise great job of welding and design.
@@robertmailhos8159 I actually have two riding mowers with single Briggs on them...but have been looking for an opposed twin to replace my oldest mower. I have a collection of Stainless Steel pipe just waiting for me to find a good deal on one.
Thanks Grant, I did a follow up video where I replaced the small "muffler" can with a larger stainless steel can and it make a HUGE improvement over the level of exhaust sound... it's much more tolerable...truth be told I still wear ear plugs when operating any machine like this. Thanks for watching you can check out the video here: ua-cam.com/video/wuq-maKZnqk/v-deo.html
I think it is awesome, I have 16 hp apposed twin briggs in mine and tried a lot of ways to make a stack but it is difficult with the flat twin to mate the two pipes, so I end up by extending the stock forward facing single pipe and bring it with a 180 deg turn backwards and then up but looks so weird that I gave up. It sounds out of the world must say. Hope anybody can share how they do it
Jan Kotze Hi Jan, I had a Gilson tractor that had an opposed 16hp twin.. I sure wish I had given a custom exhaust a try on that machine...I love a challenge.
Do you really want it at face level? A friend of mine used some kind of metal plumbing pipes when his muffler fell off to make the exhaust just go straight out the side. Same side as the grass nobody wants to be standing there anyway. It’s not obnoxiously loud and lets you really hear what’s going on with the engine, and if you are standing in the danger zone you can feel every put put put to tell what kind of compression it has
I have to cut in and around trees, so a stack wouldn't last long. I want to pipe it out all the way back, don't need to huff that stuff. I have almost the same Craftsman, except with a Kohler, it gets worked hard during the winter snowblowing. WTH is "Turbo Cooling"?
For years, I have wanted to build an exhaust system that runs out the back of one of my tractors...but the tall, dry grass makes me nervous to have it at that level.
I'm thinking/wondering if I can do it out of black or galvanized threaded steel pipe, two small bullet mufflers along the way. By the time it gets all the way back there I think there won't be any chance of a spark getting back there, will probably even drip a little water like a car dose when warming up.
I'm voting for a flapper on the top.
777strongcoffee hahaha... you KNOW it will get one.
YahSureYouBetcha same, SAME!
Me too
Yes
Using the stainless handrail was genius. And you may not like the sound of that new exhaust stack, but you created a beautiful piece of mechanical art. Kudos, and thanks for the inspiration!
Thank you very much! I ended up fabricating a different muffler can and am still running this set-up. Here is the video of the current set-up ua-cam.com/video/pV9bMHvDnC0/v-deo.html
Agreed 👍
This is the best lawn mower u will ever have I have one and I’ve done a lot with it, I’ve been missing with it multiple times and I just put a motorcycle exhaust on it today and I’ve also done a lot of tug of wars with it against my friends lawnmower. I just picked up 4 wheeling tires for it today
Awesome, This machine is still running well and being used on a regular basis for cutting grass...nothing as cool as tug of wars or 4-wheeling. Have fun with it!! Thanks for watching.
Why build an exhaust stack for your lawn mower? Because is cool.
You Know that's right.
Exactly
The greatest value/ Importance of the stack is to keep heat out of the engine bay, important for air-cooled engines.. looks great. Have to make sure it is mounted to something structural.
I wouldn't say that's the most important part I think the most important part is dont mount it the way he did you got to have that system on some kind of grommets or spring-type bracket if you notice the motor mounts themselves are on grommets so they can move a little bit if you have that exhaust mounted to the cylinder of that thing it's going to be to a fixed point he should at least have grommets or something because he'll end up breaking head bolts and causing all kinds of problems
Keep it. My brother has one on his sears suburban. You can buy a muffler for it for around $50 that will make it sound softer. We used a piece of flat steel and welded a socket to it for an adapter. It actually worked. Lol. It sounds neat the way it is though. Great video!!!!
Love2boat92 Buy a muffler?!??! you new to my channel? hahahahahaha
yourbeekeeper Yeah buy a muffler. I know I know. It's tough sometimes having to buy something. Lol.
They want over $200 for my 21hp twin
I think it's too loud.
There is way less back pressure.
It's visually less tucked and compact.
The exhaust system is a good idea ,but i would modify it only if it make it silent.
You wanted to make muffler if i understood correctly
That's a good idea,even if difficult on monocylinders to lower the sound level.
I'm happy you use HD now,it's very nice for the eyes,specially when you are outside.
: )
michaelovitch I'm glad you noticed the HD, honestly I didn't give it much thought because it always looked just fine on my computer. My primary reason for the upswept exhaust is to keep the hot exhaust out of the dry grass. My second objective is to make it quiet. I have a larger Stainless Steel can that will replace the smaller can. I think I can mellow out and quiet it down the sound...it's worth a try.
I thought it was too loud too then I turned down the volume...it's fine now.
The reason I'm here is that today, after spending hours installing and adjusting a new mower deck, and transferring the old wheels and wheel brackets to the deck, I was mowing, and I I got off to move a branch, but then I sat down again before the mower stopped, and it started up again, which caused a backfire, and the engine started on fire. I quickly removed the hood, and I was by our little cabin on the other end of our land, and the only thing I could find was a bottle of Fantastic spray cleaner. I put out the fire with this. So now, I need a new wiring harness, muffler and spark arrester. But now I'm thinking that a muffler like this would keep those sparks away from the engine as well. Oh, what caught on fire was all of the oily grass clippings coating so much of the engine and surrounding parts. I think from now on I'll keep all that cleaned off. Let that be a lesson to me!
Wow...lesson learned... and an exhaust like this would be cool too. hahaha. Thanks for watching.
Honestly love how that sounds...honestly sounds like a small version of a really old Harley.
10:52
Don't do it...don't do it....don't....
"DAMN THATS HOT!"
Well, yeahhhhhh 🤦♂️
A different muffler is all you need. Great idea and skills.
GREAT reuse for the materials, I'd like to have one of those 90 s and a extension for my Snapper 18
It looks great Steve, I know you will get the sound just right. thanks tom.
59chevt Thanks Tom, I have a plan.... likely this week I can try it out.
who would have thought the exhaust pipe was hot!? Man, that was hysterical. what were you thinking? And yes, too loud... You also mounted the exhaust to the frame which will transfer the vibration to the seat.
I did a follow up video where I removed this small can and put a larger "muffler" can on it. It made a HUGE difference and am still running it today. Thanks for watching.
That stack is freaking awesome!! Keep it! :)
Looks pretty sweet, maybe a little tall for my tastes, but still awesome. I agree with you that its a little on the loud side, but then a again so is my AC 712 with a 12 horse single wanger Kohler. Your craftsman sounds a lot like my AC with the stock exhaust. I'm ready for the weather cap build.
***** This was a sound test, not a final fit-up. I agree that it's likely several inches too tall... and you know it will have a weather cap.... it just has to...lol.
Looks friggin awesome! Keep it.
Exhaust is now up and out of your face!
Volusia-ev I really like the idea of having the exhaust and out of my way and out of the grass...I just need to find a larger muffler can to change the tone.
Sounds like my neighbors Civic
Rantz2040 ur neighbors civic probably has less horsepower
If you notice your motor mounts they are on rubber grommets they have movable connecting points.. The reason for that is because when your mechanisms do their job it needs to have a little bit of play in it if you are mounting your exhaust like that to where it's not movable without a grommet or a spring type bracket you're going to cause a lot of issues with that engine it's not going to be able to move possibly damaging the head or head bolts
Hey Dan, I have put a TON of hours on this machine and never had an issue.
I was just thinking. I wish my lawn mower was louder and the exhaust exited beside my ear
AWESOME video, great narrating, I'm digging the exhaust too
Thanks.
You could build a "real" absorption muffler out of that can with a tube inside it with lots of holes (same diameter as the rest of the pipe) and between the can and the tube put in steel or stone wool...that would deepen the tone and lower the noise.
It also would help if the can is longer or had more diameter with the mod mentioned above.
Modor An Hey Modor, I agree that the can needs to be larger. I had operator errors with the camera, and didn't show the internal design, but the can has muffler glass packed in there. I'm digging around the hoard this weekend to locate a larger S.S. can to replace this one.
yourbeekeeper
Sweeeet :-)
I knew it...you thought about the muffler glass. Who am i to tell you something like that...you are the Beekeeper...you know that stuff :-)
Digging it, you are da MAN!
Absolutely awesome! Love sound at low rpm would like to see rain cap dance
Joe H Definately will have a rain cap.
u can make a baffle in your muffler then weld it back together u can also put some steel wool in it
Jim Rowlings Hey Jim, I have that can packed with muffler glass... I am thinking I need a bigger can to change the tone... i will be looking around the hoard this weekend and see what I can find in Stainless Steel.
For a mid grade tractor there's so much stuff you can do to it for a reasonable amount of money that makes it look so cool.
redneckbryon I agree Bryon, I just have to remember to stop the mods at some point...lol
Hell yeah, keep it! If you want to make it quieter, look for a motorcycle muffler you can slip fit onto the pipe.
Tommy TwoGun I will definately be cutting that can out and finding something else (in stainless of course) to put in there.
yourbeekeeper
Cool, looking forward to a follow up video once you do.
When you install the larger can, keep the drink container. Move it up to the top of the stack and call it a 'resonator'. Tell your friends and neighbors you have a custom 'tuned' exhaust.
Serp Ukhovian haha, Now there's an idea.
I like it, its nice and loud. As long as its not blowing hot exhaust in your face.
UnitCrane514 Thanks Sir!
LOL you and your fabbed mufflers! Looks good!
Mopardude Yeah... I'm silly like that..lol
I love this project and I love the sound and I love the look. I don't think I'd be too crazy about having exhaust gas in my face all day long while mowing.
Honestly the exhaust blows well above my head. I would get more exhaust in my face with the stock exhaust, I have a follow up video where i replaced the small drink container "muffler" with a larger stainless steel can and it made a world of improvement in reducing the sound. it's called "Craftsman Stainless Exhaust Revisited" Thanks for watching.
make a baffle out of pipe to tune sound u can use a drill bit maybe 3/8 holes lots of them or find a cherry bomb
Jim Rowlings I found a good candidate for a muffler... I want this system to be all is Stainless Steel.
I think the the drink container is too small. A larger cylinder would drop the popping noise to a lower level as it would allow more expansion of the exhaust gasses before it exits the pipe. At least in my opinion.
ItsAlwaysRusty Hey Jeff, I agree with your opinion 100%. This is the first completely stainless steel system I have built and I felt compelled to use that drink container to keep it all one material... It definately does not have the room to make good sound. I had operator error with the camera and didn't get any of the "inside the can" video. I packed the can with glass, but I just think the can is just too small. I will expand my search for a larger stainless something or other to use as a muffler.. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
I love the exhaust!!!! Now I need a couple of pieces of that hand rail to make me one.
Thanks Marvin, the pipes are holding up quite well. I was not happy with the can is used for a muffler and built a new muffler, I have two videos of that process.
+yourbeekeeper yes I saw the other videos and enjoyed them. I would have liked to saw the footage where you made the "flapper" and balanced it. Excellent job
I have made half a dozen flappers for small engines...each time they are a little different...a little better, next one I will show how I do it.
Yes and let me know so I can be sure to watch it
Will Do.
Wider diameter pipe = less back pressure = lower idle, just turn idle screw in a little bit to bring idle up.
Check out the 4" baffle for Harley Drag Pipes, less than $10.00. If no fit you can easily fab. one. Changes sound level and tone ( for the good ?).
I will check that out. Thank you.
I know it has been over a year, but I have a couple extra Screamin Eagle baffles from some angle cut SE mufflers you can have.
I work on small engines also. Did you know the newer small engines with hydraulic lifters should run at higher RPMs and not idled much?
Looks great tho!
It does seem loud. But it looks cool.
Jeff James Thanks Jeff, I'm going to change that can to something larger.. that should change the sound for the better.
It does look pretty nice I must say
2LateIWon Thank you... I like the look as well... no fun with a stock muffler...lol. I just wish it sounded better... I could just sit here and wish or I could chop it up and try again....I vote to try again. Digging through the hoard this weekend to see what other (larger) stainless steel cans I have around..Stay tuned.
The funny thing is i can see you doing that lol.....hey if you can't find anything the dollar store had those stainless steel bottles you could tig weld a couple together and your only out a couple dollars. Good luck you know ill be watching
It looks cool and sound's like an old mini bike muffler.
scottsinfl haha, It does have that sound. lol.
I like it. Might be loud. Put a center pipe with large holes in it down the muffler and stuff it with fire proof insulation. Or buy the biggest tube muffler that will match your pipe but still fit in the water bottle.
57WillysCJ I had operator error with the camera and didn't get any of the "inside the can" video. I have made several mufflers for these small engines and have a good system down for the inside configuration. I packed the can with glass, but I just think the can is just too small..I was married to that size can because it was Stainless Steel and that was the theme I was trying to go with. I don't really mind the loud aspect as long as it sounds good...I don't think it sounds good. I will be digging through the hoard this weekend and see what I can come up with to replace it.
I just brought one of these lt mowers home for free today. I wanna make a buggy out of it
Did you put a vibration dampers between your bracket and the frame? You'll be courting cracking, perhaps on your motor's head if you aren't lucky, some other place on the exhaust if you are. Other than that, I love it. If you want to quiet it down, you can still weld a muffler flange to the end of your pipe. Attach any muffler that fits your flange.
Hey Ron, I did a two part follow up video ( ua-cam.com/video/wuq-maKZnqk/v-deo.html )to this one where i put a different can and it made a HUGE improvement in sound level and tone. To date, I don't have any dampers. The engine is solid mount to the frame and the exhaust is solid to the frame and with around 75-80 hours on the tractor since this video, there have been no issues. Thanks for watching.
It'll sound even .louder with that rain flap rattling !
Check it out running here: ua-cam.com/video/PJ8krRfZuaA/v-deo.html
I like this fabrication, it looks good but is a bit loud and staccato in tone. As well as idling lower does it rev higher?
Like others I am concerned about the possible damage to the close-by wiring and possibly the starter. In addition we have had quite a bit of annoying damage to the exhaust pipework due to cracking caused by engine vibration. To combat this we have added short length of flexible exhaust pipe or rubber engine mount. This has helped a lot but is not a fool proof solution.
It is good to see you moving around quite smoothly and easily with your knee injury.
Dan Whiteford Hey Dan, I don't like the tone at all. I am expanding my search for something that is Stainless Steel to make a larger diameter can and replace that drink container. The engine still has the governer so it does not rev any higher, but I was interested that it lowered the idle. it was a chore to weld that thin drink can to the thick pipe and I just bolted it up to test for sound before I made the welds pretty... I don't like the sound so I will be chopping that can out. Final assembly will definately include re-routed wiring and I like the suggestion for a heat shield for the starter.
You need a bigger can and maybe a larger exit. Enough to get some resonance from the sound waves hitting each other. I'm not exactly sure how to calculate it, I haven't messed around with one in a while.
Nicholas Smerk Hi Nicholas, I am fixed as to what pipe size I can use, ( I will not purchase new pipe, but only use what I have on hand) but the can will definately be getting chopped out and replaced with something larger.
Nice one mate I like it. Im in the middle of doing something similar to mine 👌
Cool 👍
Sounds good, idles like a old John Deere known as Johnny Popper. But you put a baffle from a small motorcycle, too
I made a follow up video (Craftsman Stainless Exhaust Revisited) where I revisited the "muffler" situation and made it better. I was trying to use what I had laying around in my hoard, but believe me a motorcycle muffler would have worked quite well if I had one.
Sounds like my grandpa's old massey harrison. Now put a soup can on the end to keep the rain out and watch it launch into the air when the engine fires up.
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@@yourbeekeeper that's what I'm talkin about. Now get rid of that sissy electric start system and put a hand crank on the end of the crank shaft and you'll have a manly mower.
That's so cool don't change it
Sounds really good. Great innovation plus it looks cool.
Glad you like it!
DUDE SWEET,>> Thanks for the video>>!God Bless.
Thanks for watching!
I can't wait it straight pipe my dads push mower he's got the governor adjusted a bit higher it just needs this 😂
hahaha.. You should!!
LOL we knew you were going to attempt to put a stack on it, a little loud might need a different muffler.
Graveltrucking hahaha... You know me too well.. hahahaha definately a different muffler.
Exactly, mine leaves a yellow burnt grass circle from the exhaust at times
Hide some baffles inside your water bottle thing to quiet down and deepen the sound a little that way you keep your custom exhaust look you wanted
1944johndeerel I have it packed with glass, but I think it's simply too small to make a good tone. I'm on the hunt for something to make a larger muffler... stay tuned.
I think its a great idea, it gets the fumes up and away from the operator, I hate breathing that stuff in while mowing. I'd build one if I had the skill and gear to do it.
It looks awesome good work. but it definitely needs to be quieted down
***** Yep... I don't mind loud, but it needs to sound good to off set the volume... this does not sound good, so the loudness is not tolerable. I will make changes. Thanks.
That's was a sweetly built stack YBK but didn't look right on the newer unit, we gotta get you an old Suburban 12 to fit that stack a little bit better. lol
RooneysSears01 hahaha.. Rooney, I really like the look of the Suburbans and the starter/generator setup is pure genius. I have been keeping an eye out for one around me for a few years now and I have not been able to drag one home yet. I look at work like this as a warm up for the real tractors.
Ya it seems to me like a majority of the Suburbans are on the east coast , and that's not right! lol
That's awesome! !!! I lack the welding skills or would put one on my cub.
This made my day! 🏆⚒️🇬🇧
Idk if you still got it but maybe try a little dirt bike muffler on the end of it seen a tik tok where a guy did it to a 15 horse and it sounded kinda cool
Thank you. I did a follow up video with this tractor where I used a different muffler can. This was just a try-and-see attempt. Thanks for watching.
What were you thinking bro custom fabricator / welder you had to know that pipe was going to be hot I'd like to have a set of them made for a Briggs & Stratton opposed twin what do you think that you would charge for something like that nice video thank you
I would need your machine here in order to fabricate up an exhaust.
the question is not why but why not
It looks cool i like it. Sounds more like a tractor.
Thanks Ray, I like the sound as well.
looks awesome! sounds good too!
tyler geipel thank you Tyler
I like it.I have a Briggs 21 HP twin Can you make two for me.One problem I see is it getting ripped off the first bush or low hanging branch you hit
This exhaust is still in use around trees and such and has never had an issue.
Looks good and sounds good. I'd Keep it.
Idaman71044 Thank you.
Well it sure looks good , would be a shame to take it off. It wasn't to loud on the video but if your mowing with it might get to you after a while.
Rusty Glovebox Hey Rusty! It's not the loud as much as it's the tone. I can handle loud...heck I always wear hearing protection regardless of the sound level..and I will be using it in an area where nobody will complain about it... I just don't like the way it sounds...I like the look of it exhaust, I just will chop out and fabricate a larger muffler to tone it down a bit. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
May need a heat shield by the starter and those wires there .
wtbm123 Hey Terry, I agree completely. I just threw this on to test the sound... I was struggling to get that thin can welded to the thick pipe and before I made the welds pretty I wanted to be sure I liked how it would sound...I don't...it will get chopped off and a larger SS can will replace it. I definately will re-route that wire and I think the starter heat shield is a great idea. Thanks!
Reason,. I WANT to do it !!!! Best reason ever !!!!
Hey if anything it looks really cool 😎
10:52 why'd you touch the muffler
Well, I wish I had a clever answer for you, but honestly I'm not that smart. hahaha.
@@yourbeekeeper best answer honestly
Run it right out the back, it wont be to loud if it's not right in your face. Plus they sound cool like that. Just my thoughts, but I'm also not a smart man.
***** hahaha... I actually want to build an exhaust that runs out the back...I think that looks cool too....Just not for a machine I mow with...typically the last couple cuttings of the year are dry and I don't want the exhaust anywhere near the dry grass.
It look and sounds good! ♡
I have 2 John Deere 3 cylinder tractor you got me wanting to turbo my diesel and put on a stacks or straight pipe it
You should, I would be awesome. hahaha. Of course I use this machine on my property with no neighbors close to me, so the loud sound isn't an issue.
Sounds awesome!!
Thanks Paul!!!!!!!
Did the engine Beni fit from the work you did ? Run quicker or cooler ? Lol bit of HP gain ?
I can't honestly answer that.... It was a recent purchase and I had very little time on the stock muffler. I can say that I have had no issues at all and still use it today.
At 9:55 see what you did? I’m afraid you will probably do that when the pipe is cherry red hot after mowing. Otherwise great job of welding and design.
hahaha... that mistake was a one and done so far. Still running this set-up and I know to stay away.
To bad you didn't have a opposed twin cylinder Briggs and Stratton that would be sweet looking 😎👍
I agree 100%
@@yourbeekeeper I have 2 of them on two 42 inch cut hydro mowers I love the way they sound when they are running right
@@robertmailhos8159 I actually have two riding mowers with single Briggs on them...but have been looking for an opposed twin to replace my oldest mower. I have a collection of Stainless Steel pipe just waiting for me to find a good deal on one.
@@yourbeekeeper . well I hope you are able to find one soon young man
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If you make one this long i would try different mufflers in series.
very neat
Awesome video
Thank you .
All else aside. it looks great.
Thanks Grant, I did a follow up video where I replaced the small "muffler" can with a larger stainless steel can and it make a HUGE improvement over the level of exhaust sound... it's much more tolerable...truth be told I still wear ear plugs when operating any machine like this. Thanks for watching you can check out the video here: ua-cam.com/video/wuq-maKZnqk/v-deo.html
I think it is awesome, I have 16 hp apposed twin briggs in mine and tried a lot of ways to make a stack but it is difficult with the flat twin to mate the two pipes, so I end up by extending the stock forward facing single pipe and bring it with a 180 deg turn backwards and then up but looks so weird that I gave up. It sounds out of the world must say. Hope anybody can share how they do it
Jan Kotze Hi Jan, I had a Gilson tractor that had an opposed 16hp twin.. I sure wish I had given a custom exhaust a try on that machine...I love a challenge.
I would have run the pipe past your foot on the rhs and put of the back. With a heat shield or fiberglass to keep it cool.
Nice video .... at idle it sounds like it's looping like u upgraded the cam lol
Looks great I’d just baffle the water bottle and maybe some steel wool
Do you really want it at face level? A friend of mine used some kind of metal plumbing pipes when his muffler fell off to make the exhaust just go straight out the side. Same side as the grass nobody wants to be standing there anyway. It’s not obnoxiously loud and lets you really hear what’s going on with the engine, and if you are standing in the danger zone you can feel every put put put to tell what kind of compression it has
Pretty Cool. Like the sound.
Yup exhaust pipes get hot!
it sounds nice
THanks.
Hey I was trying to warn you about touching the hot exhaust but you couldn't hear me.
zollermichael I couldn't hear anything over that loud exhaust...haha
hey Steve.......its hot.....dont touch....
dzlfreek gee thanks...now you tell me!
I have to cut in and around trees, so a stack wouldn't last long. I want to pipe it out all the way back, don't need to huff that stuff. I have almost the same Craftsman, except with a Kohler, it gets worked hard during the winter snowblowing.
WTH is "Turbo Cooling"?
For years, I have wanted to build an exhaust system that runs out the back of one of my tractors...but the tall, dry grass makes me nervous to have it at that level.
I'm thinking/wondering if I can do it out of black or galvanized threaded steel pipe, two small bullet mufflers along the way. By the time it gets all the way back there I think there won't be any chance of a spark getting back there, will probably even drip a little water like a car dose when warming up.
If it's too loud put steel wool in water bottle should help
put a glass pack on it! it looks sweet!!!
Does removing the stock muffler ruin these types of engines?
I don't know, but don't think so. I have 150~170 hours on this machine with this exhaust and have had no issues.
@@yourbeekeeper oh okay thank you.
It’s sound badass
That rain though
the muffler should be thicker and longer,
There will be a lower sound
Idle it up a little on the idle screw.