FATHERLAND. If Hitler had won?
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- Опубліковано 6 лис 2009
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A very intriguing thriller. Set in victorious greater Germany of the 1960s. And the country is preparing to celebrate Hitler's birthday. By welcoming US President Joseph Kennedy to Berlin on a state visit.
But what is the dark secret that the government will kill to keep secret. - Розваги
I think the Representation of "German after Winning WW2" in this film is much better and rational than The man in the hight castle
Don't even mention about the Fatherland's Loss
Yeah the Nazis never actually called themselves Nazis. Fucking stupid, also the big maps in the war rooms are way too oversimplified. Germany holds all of Europe, what happened to Mussolini's Italy, Horthy's Hungary, Franco's Spain etc... Even if Germany won the war Hitler wouldn't waste German lives just to take the land, they already had lebensraum! Besides they were German allies, wtf Man In the High Castle I had such high expectations. Germany also controls all of Africa and as the show said, the butcher Heydrich extincted the sub saharans as a people the last survivors are ironically the African Americans (by the way the Black Communist Rebellion is retarded). Also the map thinks that Japan would've annexed all that land, no. They would've set up puppet governments to keep stability they never would have been able to hold on to the territory realistically. Manchukuo was meant to annex all of China and Mengukuo Mongolia. And India would be independent but ruled by a fascistic ultranationalist Hindu dominated ethno state. India would be the deciding factor in the cold war between the Japanese and German spheres. It is at best amicable with both sides contrary to what most people think when they make their axis alt history maps putting India in Japanese control. Just no, India is not an East Asian nation like say China and Korea who have more in common with Japan. If anything India is more related to the Germans through the Indo Aryans who came from central Asia in wheeled chariots and settled in northern India and founded Buddhism, of course the Nazis thought they were Aryans and Nordic (we now know that Europe is Indo European and related to India and that is the explanation of the similarities in facial structure as opposed to the very different east Asian features.)
I saw this on DVD fifteen years ago a film showing a post war world divided between Nazi Germany and the United States. If the script writers at Amazon prime had a little more imagination they could have run a series based on this movie of a hypothetica post war l world divided between Nazi Germany and the United States a lot could have been done with such TV series on Amazon prime because the idea of Nazi Germany conquering half the United States just sounds ridiculous where an alternative serious based on a post war world divided between Nazi Germany and the United States would have looked more realistic.
The man in the high castle is a Phillip K Book and as always they TV adaptation is never as good as the novel.
@@christophera556 i can agree with you. but im also not sure, hitler hated the americans and their culture, and he never saw the americans as one real nation. (because of the many cultures that had build america ) nazi germany would have only had enough recources after winning against russia, that was his first gole to archieve victory for the end-sieg (end-winning) against the ruling global powers like britain and america. but hitler also didnt want to be at war with britain, because he thought he would fight a brother war against a white race which shared a similar culture like germany. i think if nazi germany had enough recources, and had build the first atomic bomb ( like in the man in the high castle) they would have probably used it against america and other global powers that could be enemys of the reich. but they could only conquer america when they surrendered. otherwise america had to much rescources and troops the be conquered with a strategic-blitzkrieg. so yeah it would have likely been like in the fatherland, where germany and america fight a cold war. and germany were even fighting a resources war still against the soviet union ( or at least the remaining parts of it)
I must say, for a TV movie, the production quality is incredible! I was astonished that they managed to recreate the new-Berlin Hitler and Speer had envisioned.
New Berlin... after it was bulldozed, rebuilt, and renamed Germania
Mmmmm matte painting not crap computer GFX.
@@redram5150 The allied bombers would’ve helped with that, funnily enough.
@@patrickar8797 not in this universe
This honestly seems to be a more accurate guess of what an alternate world of a Nazi victory would look like, compared to The Man In The High Castle.
TheGamingTyrant Nein
The societies are pretty much the same really. Except that in Tmithc, half of the world is ruled by Nazis.
Yes. Still a bit unrealistic.
It's way more down to earth, indeed.
This is basically a surviving Third Reich that managed to live another day into the Cold War, unlike MitHC, basically the planet divided between the Swastika and the Rising Sun
You gotta admit their uniforms are badass.
JEϟϟE LINK he hired albert spear nuff said
True asf
I gotta admit. Not really.
I mean contemporaneous U.S. uniforms looked sharper, and even with German uniforms they can’t top the DDR ones.
@Wasteland Gypsy not designed by him, just made in his factories.
I guess Italy is still around if they are serving Espresso.
Wooo
Renamed to hitlers boot probably.
A German victory means Italian victory.
The black guy is not a movie mistake. They are supposed to be press. Just as there was black's in the Olympics in Germany. They are showing they are poetically friendly etc. Not a movie mistake, your own mistake for not thinking a little deeper.
Omar Blackwood why wouldn't there be blacks or Arabs around? Hitler wasn't racist. he was a huge fan of Jesse Owens and shook his hand and took a pic with him that Jesse varied in his wallet tell his death in 1975. Jesse wrote all if this in his book himself. he really liked Hitler and all the German people.
Germany's racial beliefs from back then have been very distorted.
A cisgender white privilege Christian male except the 6 mil is fake
SiliconBong Ew, dailymail, disgusting
there were blacks in the Nazi army
Uniforms made by Hugo Boss!
Scharnhorst fuck nazis
Gundum Fuck you too
Manufactured at Hugo boss factories among yes, but the design was not by Hugo boss.
MVLGUS, is it Aryan Essence?
MissMan666 dysanie by Walter Heck 1932 to replace Brown's S.A. uniforms was definitely Hugo Boss this company is still in business making very good quality clothing l was in Germany 1985 and l did bay some of them
I dont' care what you say The Nazis looked so good in those uniforms.
They were originally designed by Hugo Boss. That may have somthing to do with it.
a uniform, dress, suit, shirt,...etc can't be bad if hugo boss made it
They were Hugo boss.
imgur.com/PK0lQgA
Hugo Boss is still around today my guy. They are still making great clothes
Wrong, they where not designed by Hugo boss. They where manufactured at their factory's yes, but the SS uniforms design was done by Karl diebitch and Walter Heck.
This is one of the best "what if Germany had won" movies I've ever seen.
"We have nothing to hide."
Sure, sure
Can't imagine what 2017 would look like if things had been different.
We would colonize mars or other planet near us cause that time hitler really support rocket program
And they even think of making space station in 1942
I assume the Greater German Reich would collapse in the 90s just like the USSR.
@@nikolatasic9452 Unlikely, the only reason the cold war occurred was due to the alliance formed between the USSR and the USA before the end of WW2, Germany had declared war on the USA and would have likely supported Japan in their theatre, not to mention that the entirety of Europe would be under German control, whereas the Soviets only controlled half. It would only be the United States vs Japan and Germany
I would guess the 2nd Mexican American War would occur and Mexico would gain back its lost states thanks to German aid.
Berlin was meant to be renamed Germania City
Seems like a warm and fuzzy place.
Is it weird how the dead guy kinda looks like Vladimir Putin?
He eliminated his mist troublesome enemy before it got powerful.
4:05 never would have been a problem in Germany.
MAKE SO MANY PHOTOS
OY YOU GOT A LOICENSE FOR THAT M8?
@@helmetguy6495 Oh yeah, encouraging your people to flourish via government posters is so evil, am I right?
@@helmetguy6495
WHITE KINGHT
FICK DICH
@@Cobruh_Commanderprobably cause there weren't enough mixed race couples in that poster
This scenario is more plausible than Man in the High Castle
Almost funny to see the SS dealing with normal cop stuff after the war is done
Yeah cuz the war is done
The Arch (2:16) and Great Hall (2:20) would not have worked IRL because they were way too big (it was said that the Hall would have created clouds at the top of the dome from all the moisture in peoples' breath.) They did testing during the war with large concrete pylons and found the ground was too soft (it was largely reclaimed swampland) and the pylons started to sink under their own weight. At least one pylon still exists because it was too difficult to remove / destroy it.
@@rascallyrabbit717 Brutalist in nature. It would have been possible to construct but would have required a titanic amount of ground preparation. All of Berlin was to be completely leveled and work was even started with many homes bulldozed.
This is a very interesting hypothetical, the Germans could never have mobilized a force to take the US or Canada, and without Russia or the UK, the US and Canada would never have been able to liberate Europe, so a cold war followed with a massive arms race would have been clear, with the US developing the Atom Bomb first but the Germans developed ICBMs first. Truly interesting.
“Liberate Europe”
America didn’t liberate anything.
Germany liberated Ukraine tho
So 15 to 20 years later they are still wearing the exact same outfits?
why change something that looks awesome
yeah why change it when it looks cool af.
Gary Harp why would they change. If you have a recognizable brand or uniform why would you change it. Besides they look awesome.
Well, you could say they started using them again: the SS ceased to use the black & tan combo in 1939 and replaced them for Feldgrau (gray), same as the Army (but with better quality, cut and their own insignias).
Gary Harp well in dictatorships its common to ban fashion or restrict it a lot so i think is actually accurated lol
Ad lest be honest can you name another uniform that looks so elegant almost a century later? xD
Everybody gangsta until bois in black german uniform walks by
I always wonder what a world controlled by the Nazis would be like, what it would've meant for the planet, for humanity. We've always struggled with Change, no doubt, and to say that the Nazi were the only ones who've commited atrocities is very a ignorant thing to say, the British Empire, the Roman Empire, even the Mongols raped the lands the conquered, killed its indigenous people, to build a better world for itself.
Thank God the war didn't end this way..
Why? I wish it did
“We fought the wrong enemy...” - General Patton.
@@oLii96x He's not wrong. The nazi's killed over 6 million people if not more while, let's say communism killed over 100 million. I'm not sure who Patton is refering too but Germany was not the biggest threat.
"We are quoting the wrong guy" -some other guy
@@coffeeoperator1300 How much do they pay fascist revisionists to sit on the computer making fictional quotes and stupid comments? It looks like burgeoning career choice as so many are in this line of work.
@@coffeeoperator1300 The Nazi's killed 11 million in the Holocaust, 6 million of which were jews. They intended to increase that number many many times over against the Slavic peoples in order to make way for German settlement in an empty Eastern Europe. Also that 100 million statistic includes both German soldiers who were killed by Soviets and Soviet soldiers killed by Germans, it's a bit misleading to say the least.
@@coffeeoperator1300 americans always keep saying 6million. Its like they only cared about the jews even tho equal amount of other people were also killed or worked to death.
Seems a lot better than the modern day Turkmany.
+Michael Wittmann If Merkel keeps importing over a million Muslims per year, as she did in 2015 alone, it really will be an Islamic Republic in a few decades. She already said we need to accept 10 million.
***** Right back at ya "mate"
***** None of your business pal.What does this even have to do with anything?
***** Alright if you think so...I don't care.Say what you want i'm just going to ignore you.
Germany isnt a nation anymore
The idea of Kennedy going to Nazi Germany to meet Hitler (or at least celebrate his birthday) is even hard for the most imaginative individuals to think of, seeing as how wartime atrocities would have had to of been exposed at some point, not to mention Germany’s conquering of the continent.
Entire premise of the movie is that no one knows about the final solution. So it makes perfect sense that the president would show up.
*_The policeman's cap is the worst Hollywood wardrobe failure I've see on a TV show._*
I will say this
That architecture....... Wow!
hugo boss at his best ;-)
even "tiny" tom cruise look good in uniform in valkyrie
Looks like wolfenstein turned to a movie
Without an unrealistic bot which Germany lack of during the war.
Damn, this was amazing. Need to see where I can find the full thing.
Check The Description.
My God! The man who advertised Guinness and Foyle in the same mini series. Amazing!
This scenario is more accurate than most it would have ended up with a cold war between the US and Germany
Wtf is wtf and wtf like wtf?
General George Patton was right. We fouth the wrong enemy in WWII.
I have never heard of this show before but it looks awesome. And so many old cars.
I have to say if the Nazi’s hadn’t done that whole Genocide thing people would have minded a lot less
that's exactly why they created that story...
Rutger Hauer is such a great actor!
Look at the beginning : Tempelhof is finished 😅
Yeah, it's the most unrealistic part. If even the efficient Germans can't finish that damn place nobody can. Other than UFOs
I like it how they put the swastika on the tour guide. Wouldn't be surprise to see them sticking it to a frying pan as well.
i always wanted to wear those uniforms... makes me look THREATENING and DANGEROUS..and Badass
You clearly have some personal issues.
@@ArmyJameswhy?
What’s wrong with being a Nazi?
1980s Wolfenstein/ Man in the High Castle
Edit: Maybe life as part of an authority ain't bad around the 80s there. Just hope the law isn't too strict to people.
Beautiful
Link in description doesn't work.
This alternate reality scenario has more of a dramatic story arc . As compared to Man in the High castle which deals with the multiverse.
I remember i asked my teacher for my ww2 history class if the nazis won, on a scale of Fatherland to MitHC would the world be. We wound up just talking about fatherland for the rest of the conversation.
I remember this movie, the protagonist's transformation was not very subtly handled but Rutger Hauer is awesome as always. Good movie.
Fatherland the complete 1 hour 45 minute movie can now be Downloaded. See the blue link in the info box next to the video screen.
As an Austrian, I have to admit: It's weird to see these clips in English.
Unfortunately is not reality
For everyone: history is written by the victors. Germany lost and the allies won, so allies get the bragging rights ok. And for Klaus yes the US bombed japan because they were in a tuff spot and they wanted to just end it, ya two nukes might have been overkill but they won and that's what matters
No overkill. Yes, the deaths were tragic. You'd think they would surrendered after the first one, but the second one was dropped after they wouldn't surrender. Sorry this response is one year later. There's a lot of revisionists today.
"but they won and that's what matters" - I don't feel like the United States won. We all lost, except for the globalists. The globalists were the winners.
History is written by the winners? Is that why in Japan they teach kids about pearl harbor and then how Japan lost the war, nothing in between.
History is written by winner? American civil war
what movie did this come from?
I'm glad to see someone else that is just like me :)
what is this film called?
Packie Mcreary It is called "Fatherland"
Fatherland
It´s also a book
We'd be colonizing Mars by now.
Ryan White Or Venus, like in Wolfenstein II.
Or nuked into oblivion. Imagine a third superpower in the Cold War.
@@nickurban8671 haha true
Not with that jewish physics though, ofc
Yep, cause before the war hitler were amazed of rocket as a weapon and so he want to build space station during 1942 but low of resource
What movie is this?
Oh, I read this book. Didn't know there was a film!
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Watch it, good movie even for a TV movie, great depiction how it might have gone on with no end, lucky me as a german, this never happend
Vladimr Putin @5:19
Yep.
Extremely underrated movie!
How these became two-top rated posts is beyond my logical mind.
Fatherland book needs a tv series like The Man in The High Castle. His representation is more realistic.
Science-Fiction. THANK GOD!!!!
The book has more detail on the "lovebirds" the woman is also an officer's wife and the Pole is a labourer sent from the General Government to work in her garden. She got two years in Ravensbruck while he gets 25 to life (if he's lucky) while her husband is demoted and disgraced.
Well clearly you were raised in a highly moral family and society with great virtues, values and ideas.
I like how they added the planned architecture of Albert Speer. Like the dome of the riechstad
The Nazis were big into "partnerships between government and industry". Like the Phalange in Spain or the Peronists in Argentina, both of whom had a lot in common with the Nazis economically and politically.
The long term economics under the Nazis was bleak. They were too much into controlling things.
Under the Peronists Argentina degraded.
The Spanish under Franco were not prosperous either.
Hell, the Nazis had food rationing.
What are you talking about??????????
Look at the peron's goverment...
he industrialized the country.
i'm argentinian BTW
The natsocs had a government program that cut out the internationalist banks and towards the end of the war most of Europe had food shortages due to allied bombing
Interesting
I will thank you very much!
Gotta give them credit for having some of the best uniforms I've ever seen.
avoid the comment section if you value your sanity
People disagreeing with you? How they dare, right?
It terrifies me, honestly, to see this alt-right fearmongering circlejerk. Have we learnt nothing?
Nils Vos
Can you get any more pretentious or use any more media buzzwords, my dear little soybean?
@@MrSomebodyyyy Also: So, you are entitled to disagreeing with us, but when we disagree with you you get offended? You're such an SJW.
Hypocrite. That's what you are. That, or a troll.
+Nils Vos
Your logic is confounding dear friend.
FROM WHICH FILM IS THIS
its beautiful
the thing i dont understand about this video is in the bus there is a black guy siting down ??
***** This is easily among the most stupid things I've heard on UA-cam. Hitler's plans after the conquest and defeat of the Soviet Union involved German use of Africa as a virtually unlimited resource source, with the Africans being used as slave labor.
+Jesus Christ Hispanic is good for white and hindus were 'indo aryan'.
They accepted many non-aryans to waffen-SS eaven tough offically being ethnic aryan was required.
+Jesus Christ To what language?
+Jesus Christ Well, you according to offical requirements you had to be germanic to join SS but in ww2 a lot of non-aryans got in to the SS for example finnish, estonian, romanian, croatian, thai, japanese, albanian etc.
The racial rules weren't important when they tried to get SS soldiers from every contry possible.
Understand? sry for bad english.
+LakuPelle the Japanese are considered honorary aryans.
Still Better than our new 'ENRICHED' society
I don't think Slavic people would agree with you there...
Aha found the nazi
This must be some kind of crazy paralell universe.
I'm with Her0Slayer1, What is the name of this movie?
The picture of old hitler looks like tom hanks as captain sully from when he crash landed the plane into the potomac river
I think I just found my favorite alternate universe
So don't like freedom
Change your name to "linguistically challenged"
Nah, this world is dark. But we have Kaiserreich where Germany won both WW1
@@andreasbonaparte8171dark? How is a Nazi victory dark?
thought this movie had been lost in vhs land, it's actually no that bad a bit 1984 things like this if made again with a decent budget and good actors would be worth a watch
That tour guide is far too good looking for me to have never heard of her
If Germany won world will be much bether place to live.
No communism
No cold war
No Israel
No diversity
No feminism
No LGBTQ
No wars in the middle east
The perfect world
💞
@@gabbyaghoulfemboy I seem to recall something about Ernst Rohm being gay but I'm not sure.
@@gabbyaghoulfemboy there would still be gay people, but it wouldn't be out in public and celebrated.
@@cdressel53191 correct
That's Miranda Richardson of Blackadder fame on the bus.
What’s the name of this film?
PUBLIC ORDER
I love those black uniform but seriously if the Nazis would have won the War. They would be speaking German not English. Nice movie but not realistic. They would be flying in UFO and other futuristic weaponry. They were always be anti Nazi underground movement and freedom fighters.
Steve Baer if they were speaking German we would not be understanding it.
I liked the book....
Is this part of a bigger movie
wtf google I'm just looking up Fatherland novel in google playbook and suddenly this is in my recommendation?
Anyone would think some of the people commenting here have never seen a black person before.
Gareth Brown WRONG! Look up the UA-camr "Aaron Genus"
Lots of White people. They're all dressed decently, no drugs, no violence, peace, affluence, happiness. Remind me again why this would be a bad world to live in?
"OMG RACIST EVIL NAZIS!!" is the only argument people make to this. I'd want to live in this for sure.
that really updated my journal because they murdered anyone who wasn't.
I think you might also like North Korea. But do not try to steal posters.
North Korea is poor. Hitlers reich was the richest country in Europe per capita at the start of the war.
The only downside would be a total police state but then again the U.S is already doing it...
I love this film!
I read the book and must say it's awesome
looks just like North Korea but with money
At this point Europe would have been better off than what it's becoming now.......
I know right but have hope
omg this was filmed in Prague?? I live here and recognize the sites!
all i remember is that the "chase scene" in this movie didnt happen in the book. and that pissed me off.
They can look different, talk different languages BUT socialist are all the same.
NPC-Bear death to all socialist
I think you mean fascist
@@Jdon-pd1tn Yes, controlling what others say and pushing biased narratives like socialist do... Fascist. BTW! That party was 100% socialist. Sorry your feminist mother didn't teach you that...
We would have cured cancer and colonizing Pluto by now....
No, the nazis denied the new physics of quantum mechanics and relativity and not to mention they want to reintroduced paganism. The nazis would probally fall like the ussr
what year is it in this film?
+Caroline Lynch 1964
No more replys to my question. I know now
+Caroline Lynch ok
yeah, not very well known but based on the budget I think it was good too. Better than most stuff in Hollywood
Couldnt this still happen considering if there is enough neo nazis?
+James Booth Neo Nazis translates to Not Nazis
+James Booth YEAH ? No..... neo nazi are the totale opposit of N.S..... THEYE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO IS ODIN I SUPPOSE XD !!!
lol
+James Booth u just got Nazrekt bro
+ThePeacemaker848 please don't tell me your American