Tottenham to Highgate along the lost River Moselle (4K)
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2022
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In this video we pick up the trail of North London's lost River Moselle at Bruce Castle Tottenham and follow its course through Lordship Recreation Ground, through the Noel Park Estate to Wood Green. From here we cross the New River into Hornsey and Priory Park then across Crouch End Open Spaces to Queen's Wood Highgate where the Moselle rises.
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The sweet factory in Mayes Road Wood Green was "Barratts" - the smell from which is a vivid memory from my Wood Green '60s childhood
It's the best part of my Sunday to end the day with another fab video from you John. Didn't disappoint!
My grandfather worked for the Caxton Chocolate Company in Wood Green for many years before his retirement. I believe he was an engineer who maintained the machines that produced the chocolates. Hence the Caxton Road name. I always remember the box of various chocolate goodies that he received every year at Christmas as a thank you from the company - even in his retirement.
Thanks for your truly wonderful videos. They are an absolute delight. I particularly like the sheer joy and enthusiasm that you bring to the screen. Long may you continue!
Thanks for splitting the Moselle walk into 2 parts. So enjoyable. You're good company.
Very interesting walk. Back in the late 60's, I went to St David's School (now St Mary's) in Rectory Gardens. Outside of the school hall, there was a long corridor where we had to queue up for lunch. At one place in the corridor, the floor tiles were always coming loose. We were told it was caused by the Moselle River running directly under the school.
The factory was Barratts sweet factory, John. Makers of numerous sweets, the Sherbert Fountain being one of the most famous.
I must say with delight that I loved all those said sweeties
brilliant many thanks
The blend of the sweet factory aroma and some smells from the water treatment works were always a "joy"when I used to walk to Wood Green from Hornsey.
thank ou so much John your time and effort is always appreciated. Bob
In Hornsey Park Rd, N8, near where you walked John, is a (fairly new) pocket park which lies on top of the Moselle culvert. It includes an extensive water feature referencing the Moselle, and a new artwork called ‘Course & Flow’ by artist Rachael Champion. It's a 3D representation in stone of the course of the river. If you're tall enough, you can just about look over the wooden fence nearby and there is a glimpse of the Moselle as it emerges from its culvert under the railway and the New River. Well worth a visit if you're in the area..
As I often say in the comments, the joy of a river walk is seeing places that I would not ordinarily walk through. Thanks once again.
Hornsey does have a lot of character. It’s a homey area and the light was fantastic this day.
So enjoyed this 2nd walk.Had an aunt live in Moselle Ave. Gosh Wood Green has certainly changed since 1960s !!!Wonderful John, thank you 😊
Hi, John. Great to see that we are in sync with our enthusiasm for Wood Lane and that area general. I am familiar with this part of London from when I walked the entire London Underground 2018/19. Enjoyed it so much that I visited it again, a few months ago, just to soak up the atmosphere !
You mean Wood Green not Lane?
I used to live on Broadwater Road in the 70s and went to Somerset School on Lordship Lane.The school backed onto Broadwater Farm estate on one side and the recreation ground [the Big Rec we called it]on another side. Every day during lunch time and after school we would do the jumps,jumping from one side of the Moselle to the other,or the Moee as we called it then,hoping to see someone fall in.Good days and watching this brought it all back to me,keep up the good work.
Just to say John I lived in Coburg Road for the first six years of my life right beside the railway used to fall asleep to the sounds of coal trucks being shunted ,so thanks so much , had an aunty that lived in Knole Park estate,and I remember Wood Green when the Coop was on the site of the shopping centre and the bus garage was a trolley bus garage and the huge council offices complex didn't exist , I think there was a library on that site , there was also a railway that went across the road to Palace Gates station from Seven Sisters and there was a sweet factory and a Gas Works we used to sledge down the Alexandra Palace hill on metal trays in the winter , there was also a Horse racing track very popular , I used to go to Lordship Lane recreation to ride my bike as a kid ,many thanks John , made my day ❤️🌈☮️☯️☸️🇺🇦
And where that alley is used to be where the now long gone railway bridge crossed Wood Green High Road.
I was born in Hornsey in 1949, went everywhere around the area as a child / teenager, never saw the Moselle above ground anywhere, the New river in those days was crystal clear with streaming weed and full of fish, and the whole place had a feel of a village.
Thanks John for this video. Apart from Moselle Avenue and Gladstone Avenue (the Prime Minister at the time) the roads in the Noel Park Estate were named after people associated with the company that built the estate. The visible part of the river in Lordship Recreation Ground is actually a rerouted section with original course by the duck pond and can still be seen. The whole area between Mayes Road and Western Avenue was the Barrett's Sweet Factory. The main office in Mayes Road used to have packets in the windows of all the different brands they used to make there. In the 60s there was a childrens paddling pool in Queens Wood about where the frog pond is now.
Thanks for that info Kenneth
Salisbury and Darwin Roads are also named after prominent Victorians
My dad's mum and dad lived in 132 Gladstone Avenue and I had a great aunt and uncle who lived in 18 Farrant Avenue also in Noel.Park.
Finally I can face the coming week. A JR video, the best part of any week
Great walk. Liked the Sean Hughes reference. Sat next to him at a Crystal Palace match once. Nice guy. Very much missed.
Lovely you mention Sean Hughes. Ive been rewatching Sean’s Show a lot in recent years as both series are on the Channel 4 archive. There’s some amazing cameos on there as well including Robert Smith, who was good friends with Sean I think and also Gareth Southgate along with the whole Crystal Palace squad who Gareth played for at the time, and who are Sean’s team obviously. It’s poignant you end the walk at Highgate as there is actually a bench in the woods there that bears a commemorative plaque and dedication to Sean who used to sit there often. Sean’s writing & poetry is also brilliant and well worth a read.
Stephen King's "Crouch End" is a favorite of mine. You really brought it to life...or death....as it were....for me. Thanks John.
Thanks again John. These walks are the high light of my week.
I love these lost river walks set against the backdrop of the busy streets, where history and modern day meet. And never worry about mentioning your book, This Other London. I cherish my signed copy! Another top walk, John. Thank you
Thanks Ali
Brilliant. Thank you for coming back to finish the whole route of the Moselle.
Once again, just wonderful 🍀
Thanks John for another wonderful video. Always interesting and beautifully filmed. Thank you for allowing me to walk with you vicariously. Look forward to your next video. Have a great week
cheers Humble
As always fantastic, keep going, love your work.
Thank you, many memories!
Thank you so much for your wonderful walks & positivity 🌻🌻
Lovely second part to the Moselle walk. Well worth the wait. Thanks John.
The music in the videos gives me chance to reflect on london Thankyou🥰 so much nonsense on youtube this is the best channel ever
Thanks John for another Great Walk, brought back lots of memories of the area.
There is a Lordship Lane in Dulwich as well. A lovey walk out and great to see the sun again! 🌞
I used to get stopped a lot and asked if I was Sean Hughes.
Love a river walk - have a great week John - thanks so much for the video
Hugely enjoyable. I too love this part of London. Look forward to the next one! 👍
It’s so very peaceful to walk with you in London in spring. Thank you.
Your lost river walks are so amazing!
Hi john I love your videos they are so great thank you please keeping on posting them
What a great journey with you. Memories, some good and some not so good but your gentle ways always bring me enjoyment. Thank you
Fascinating to see how following a hidden river takes you through such interesting and varied landscapes. Wonderful video. Thank you.
Stunning walk , parts 1&2 thank you so much for inclueding the Elmhurst at the start, this part of London has brought the memeries flooding back.
Hi John - great video. I was born in Crouch End so still visit a lot the areas you show in Hornsey particularly Middle Lane, Priory Park and Crouch End Playing Fields. I have seen the course of a stream through Queens Wood which runs down to a brick dam at the end of the alley way that leads to Wood Vale. If you cross over Wood Vale and go into the Playing Fields and take a hard right you can see the stream that skirts the back of the Wood Vale houses. It then tends to curve round to take an easterly direction before going into a culvert. I remember in the late 60's kids swinging across the stream on a dangling rope from a tree near this culvert when the stream was open. Nearly summer so I will go up to Highgate Woods via Queens Wood to watch the cricket on the green and have a nice lunch in the cafe. Now to watch Part 1!!
Thank you. Nothing to add but very enjoyable and informative. Helps me appreciate the environment around me. Cheers
You've walked right past my house - walked in Priory Park this afternoon
Great walk and good of you to give the chap a shout out 🤩
Brilliant John, love the lost river walks.
Another great video John ! thankyou very much .
Fantastic watch always look forward to Sunday evenings new adventure !
Only just got round to watching this walk. And what a treat it was I wonder how many buried and lost rivers we walk over and don’t even realise what’s beneath us?
All the best John 👍🏻
Another excellent Lost Rivers of London walk, an absolute Sunday delight, many thanks for another great walk, take care
Thanks John, Keep Safe. see you next Sunday.
My Wife thinks it's a bit odd me watching a bloke filming himself going on a walk. However having watched this one with me , not only did she enjoy it , she said " What a lovely man " so there you go John another convert to your fabulous channel...
These are great videos John, the lost rivers are just fascinating. Cheers buddy
Lovely interesting walk John. I walked that way over the past lockdowns. Hornsey is an interesting place for sure... lovely old houses. The new river stretch you passed, I like too and the large housing blocks built in that area have really expanded, more being built I believe... It's fascinating to think of those past riverways, I wish I could go back in time to see what they were really like.
Another great lost river walk John thoroughly enjoyable and interesting as always!!
Fabulous, loved the walk. What a stellar day
An excellent end to the journey of the Moselle … lovely film 👍
Greatly enjoyed, John.
what a beautiful walk john
Loved your ramble along the rivers of London very interesting 🧐
once again you give us a cracking informative film.thanks.
Great series of videos.. encourages me to look with new eyes at my own city (Edinburgh) !
I remember years ago in the 70s a friend of the family lived in Morley Ave The houses are beautiful. I thought I imagined these houses. Thank you for a lovely walk.
this is very near towards me. Fantastic walking video, keep up the amazing work john.
Another voyage of discovery for me, great stuff sir! Love the look of Hornsey too...planning a few little jaunts into London in Summer/Autumn this year & will put it on my list...
Thanks John, great mystical river walk - Cheers mate...
Cheers Ralph
Excellent like always. Thanks. I am reading your book 📕 very interesting 👏👏👍
Thank you for mentioning Mr Farrant . Xxx sadly missed xxx
Your video brought back many happy memories I mean't to say.
That helped me escape for an half hour great stuff.
The poetry of crumpled curled peg board that’s Zen.
You make me feel as if I’m there . Thank you
Was waiting all day for this 🎉🎉🎉🎉🥳🥳
Loving the content John 😊
Thanks!!
Likewise🎉🎉
Yet again ... the boy delivered. Very high standard met. Thanks john.
My pleasure Paul - thanks
Really enjoyed this, great film John, I used to live on Church Lane, Hornsey in mid 80s when attending Middlesex Poly, loved that area too
Great walk - love seeing the Spring there - still very wintery here in Wisconsin.
Lovely...👍.
Thank you so much for this video, you really got the area on an amazing day! When I worked for Haringey council in the 1990's, it always seemed grey, and the streets were known for muggings and crime. This video has reminded me that Haringey is an area which also has tremendous beauty..thanks again!
Things have changed.
Radagast, would be my bet, great video as usual John, love watching these, been a life saver over lockdown, please keep them coming :)
absolutely spot on!
@@JohnRogersWalks That was instantly my guess too. Lovely walk, thank you, taking me to places just off the edge of my old stamping ground. Worth a wander on its own, the old LCC Tower Gardens Estate - if you thought Noel Park was pretty, the streets within the Roundway and its own little park has a magic all of its own on a summer evening. An amazing contrast with Broadwater Farm. All the same people, but housed in a very different way. Kids still play out in the streets there. If you can't walk it, worth a Google walk at least.
Really nice walk, I lived in Crouch end in the late 70s although my girlfriend I lived with always referred to us as living in Muswell hill !
Nevertheless I loved going around Hornsey and it always felt special as you said although I cannot put words to it just like it’s own unique place,
Thank you for refreshing some happy thoughts from the days of flared trousers and tins of hofmeister larger
Great walk john,thank-you for capturing the feeling,of that area,love it had friends there in the 80s,but I was always glad to get back to west London,I always found it a bit sombre,the pubs were the same.
Oh! Do you have a book out, called this other london? I had no idea, you've never mentioned it!🤣🤣🤣
Great walk!
Hey John. I was just thinking about popping out, then your alert came up. I think I’ll watch this first.
Very interesting video. I will probably.watch it again. Nice to ser my home town of Wood Green, Noel Park where two of my grandparents lived, I had a great aunt and uncle who lived there too. Also nice to see Bruce Castle which I have been to several times. Your video brought back
both videos John....its been a great delight.....looking forward to the Effra video, I lived on Effra road Wimbledon for a short time..represented my old school there at Cricket..
Great stuff, thanks John
Awesome video as always!
Thanks Alison
I have been to the Moselle in Germany, it was beautiful, the food was great and the history interesting. Yes, we went wine tasting too.
I walked along Lordship Lane (40 years ago) and had no idea about the river.
Thank you.
John - one thing to note which you sadly missed on the walk. On the junction of Moselle Avenue N22 and Vincent Road N22 is an old bridge of where the Moselle crossed when it was above ground. It was a shame you didn’t get that in the video.
Other than that - brilliant
Are you sure? Just looked on Google Street View and could see no sign of it?
I've never seen a bridge, lived nearby for years.
Yeah it’s there. Just walk up Vincent Road a little near the junction of Moselle and you will see it. Only a small bridge
@@liamdavis2556 Strange. Just looked again. No sign of it.
The strange case of the disappearing bridge...
Great video, lovely weather for it! I liked seeing the old houses in Broadwater Road, reminded me of the Warner Houses in Walthamstow, if you know of them? (Some in /near Pretoria Road, by Stoneydown Park.) I recommend reading "Sean's Book", kind of autobiography of Sean Hughes, very touching. Great bloke, RIP. Some great areas of old houses, lovely trees and greenery bisected by mad traffic! That's London! Thanks John!
Thanks John…greetings from Australia 🇦🇺👍🏻
I had an Uncle from Tottenham, who was always talking about Bruce Grove and Lordship Lane for some reason. Would be interested to know the history of that Bruce Castle though. Interesting looking building.
New River path traces one of my family line journeys.
From Ware into Tottenham shoemakers
Hope you had a nice cup of tea in the cafe John. Had a pit stop walking the Capital Ring once, lovely!
Way to go John. Keep up the good work!
Thanks John
Good to see You finish the Moselle walk and i do apologise as You did mention the moselle under scotland green road. i have posted this walk on My Face book. Thanks John.
thnks john ...
Very enjoyable.Thank you.
Cheers Carl
John delivers again!!
cheers Rick
Good to see the second part. I'm quite fond of Hornsey as well. Where you were stood just before going into Priory Park, I believe was the site of a Victorian pleasure garden, and just behind you were some ditches which are part of a system to deal with flooding from the Moselle during heavy rain. Also, I might be wrong, but I seem to remember reading that the fountain in the park used to sit outside of St Paul's until the late 1890s.
Thoroughly enjoyed your walk John, you always make it feel that us the viewer are right there with you, now on to the new river walk, I live very near to where it starts from the Lea, just to let you know that work is on going for the conversation of the European eel population at the pump house where the new river starts, fantastic for the decreasing numbers of European eels, but not if you want to get an uninterrupted view of said beginning/ ending of such an fantastic walk, work was supposed to be finished months ago but damm Covid got in the way of that, anyway keep up the great work and remember people walking isn’t just for lockdowns, it’s for life!