How can anyone give this guy a thumbs down? Excellent explaination and easy to understand. This video has severely shortened the learning curve. thanks!
Thank you, this was very helpful as I was having trouble with gaps in my first layer and kept going up on the % making it worse. After watching this video I solved my problem and my first layers are coming out perfect. Great explanation!
Hi new start I have a new flsun printer ever time I print it moves to the very corner instead of the centre how can I stop it doing this please can u help me😢
Would the first layer settings carry over to every other layer height as I'm having trouble past the first layer as a I got small gaps between each layer after the first
Hey did you have issues with the new software 3.1 version? I cannot get my Machine Control Panel to allow me access with the extruder or the heated bed. Any info would b great! thanks
Hmm so you're saying First Layer Width doesn't actually make the extruded material wider? When I hover over it in S3D it says to increase that value to help with adhesion. How does gaps in the first layer help with adhesion?
There is a calculation within that setting that does make it slightly wider or narrower but also reduces or increases the amount of space between the traces.
thank you for all your help and personal opinion. very helpful. I was just wondering if you could do a video to compare stock vs mods that you have done for your machines . software makes good printer great and a great machine awesome.
As for the width info, the percentage is based on what you set your primary width too on the the first tab under extruder...true? I saw you had yours set to auto .48) based on your nozzle size. Width setting, fillament diameter and your layer height setting is going to give either high or low resolution to the print and your percentage of width and height are only what the first layer will be. That is my understanding..
I undestand it's basic but in S3D what is put into motion (ie. layer/height percentages) are all going to be based on what has been put into fileds prior to to getting to this entry and I did not hear you explain (basically) that significant. Maybe that would be good to do. otherwise it may still not make sence why the first layer has gaps between the segments or open holes around the perimeter. I think your on the right track to explain S3D...I like what your producing i. the videos..
From Simplify3d support site (www.simplify3d.com/support/articles/perfecting-the-first-layer/) ---Adjustments to the First Layer Height allow you to vary the amount of pressure the filament exerts against the bed. There are actually two ways to adjust the height and pressure: Percentages under 100% will reduce the height of the layer being printed (with no change to the extrusion amount). For example, if you entered 75%, your first layer height is reduced while your extrusion remains at 100%. Another way to think of this is that 100% of your extrusion will be forced into a space that is 75% of the layer height. This reduction in height generates extra pressure and more surface area for that layer, which will help the first layer adhere to the print bed. In other cases, using a percentage above 100% is helpful. For example, if you are printing at very fine layer heights, such as 0.05mm, a tiny variance in your bed leveling can result in poor first layer adhesion. Using a First Layer Height well above 100% can be extremely helpful in these cases. Many machines benefit from 200 or 300% for the first layer height when the layer height is 0.05 mm or 0.1 mm. The increased thickness of the first layer can help absorb small defects in the build plate and provide more surface contact area, which will result in better first layer adhesion. Another feature is to ability to change the First Layer Width. By increasing the First Layer Width, many users find that their first layer prints out much smoother and sticks to the bed much easier. This is something that is printer dependent, however, we recommend sticking to values within 100 to 200%.
Great Video. I was wondering if you would think of doing a basic "how to use" Simplify3D? I use craftWare right now and while I am very comfortable with it people keep telling me to use Simplify3D.
Raising the layer height doesn't squish more. It raises the nozzle further from the bed. At .2 height a 150% first layer height will set the nozzle .3mm from the bed and increase flow proportionately. If you want more squish you need to lower the nozzle closer to the bed. That can't be done by changing the first layer height because if you lower the value here the amount of material decreases also.
Dude, great initiative. However, I want to point out that you are wrong about the First layer width settings. Increasing the width does not increase the space between "traces". The software recalculates the width so that the nozzle extrudes thicker and fatter (at 125%) when compared to 100%. In other words, this directly affects the E values. eg. if at 100% you extrude 0.4mm lines next to each other at E1.0, at 125%, you will extrude 0.5mm at E1.25. if that makes sense. It looks like you have a good fan following. Please make sure to correct this in your video. Good luck!
So if I'm understanding this correctly, adjusting first layer width shouldn't have any impact on spacing between material being laid down? I am getting gaps between perimeters and base layer infill - so far adjusting layer width hasn't helped at all - the only thing that is helping is lower nozzle slightly closer to the print bed.
If anyone is struggling with gaps on your first layer - either lower your nozzle, increase extruder multiplier, or increase first layer HEIGHT setting. Increasing the layer width will not fix your problem. The layer width function is useful if you're having layer adhesion issues and you want a wider/thicker track laid down - but the nozzle path adjusts accordingly so it won't do anything to help fill in gaps that are occurring.
@@charlieaf92 There is s subtly here that I think has still been missed. First layer width when increased by 200% does indeed push out 2x the material but it also does increase the path precision by the same ammount. This leads to little change in the material being used but does over-extend at times. Going the other way im sure the same material is used but the head is lowered. You can see finite changes in the material used tally when you slice and change both of these numbers. I got this btw from the simplify3d site after a lot of reading. Their poor documentation of course is to blame for the confusion we all have about the actual mechanics under all of this ... and the fact that they change it from time to time ...... Persoanlly I would like rid of these as most of us print on glass (dont we ). Anyway Fugatech I like the vid I was trawling around tonight researching this trying to bottom out what these settings actually do. It's taken me 2 hours reading 4 different versions to come to what I think is what it's doing. You guys here are 90% right but I think just add the point about >100% and it increases the path precision. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
How can anyone give this guy a thumbs down? Excellent explaination and easy to understand. This video has severely shortened the learning curve. thanks!
Thank you, this was very helpful as I was having trouble with gaps in my first layer and kept going up on the % making it worse. After watching this video I solved my problem and my first layers are coming out perfect. Great explanation!
eurgh thank you! been playing with the leveling and the setting for ages and the best i got was a really gappy but wide foot first layer
Dude..... thanks!! Couldn't find this ANYWHERE else !!!!!!!!!!!
Great introduction to the series man! 10/10 :)
I agree!
Hi new start I have a new flsun printer ever time I print it moves to the very corner instead of the centre how can I stop it doing this please can u help me😢
Or can anyone help advise me?
Would love to know how to dial in retraction, coast and wipe settings. Great video man!
I can look into that for a future video
Would the first layer settings carry over to every other layer height as I'm having trouble past the first layer as a I got small gaps between each layer after the first
Sounds like under extrusion. Did you set the slicer for 1.75mm filament?
Cheers mate. Absolutely brilliantly described. Know what I’m doing now.
Thank you for clearing this up! Now I'm better armed to tackle my PETG issues!
Hey did you have issues with the new software 3.1 version? I cannot get my Machine Control Panel to allow me access with the extruder or the heated bed. Any info would b great! thanks
Not that I can tell. I have been using it since it came out and didn't notice anything abnormal.
Figured it out. I had it on the wrong port lol
I use Cura and my first layer and the brim is missing , I try different stl but is all the same .
Hmm so you're saying First Layer Width doesn't actually make the extruded material wider? When I hover over it in S3D it says to increase that value to help with adhesion. How does gaps in the first layer help with adhesion?
There is a calculation within that setting that does make it slightly wider or narrower but also reduces or increases the amount of space between the traces.
Way to go Shane!
thank you for all your help and personal opinion. very helpful. I was just wondering if you could do a video to compare stock vs mods that you have done for your machines . software makes good printer great and a great machine awesome.
I do plan on some update videos about the FT-5 in the near future.
Very nice video! Greets from Argentina!
As for the width info, the percentage is based on what you set your primary width too on the the first tab under extruder...true?
I saw you had yours set to auto
.48) based on your nozzle size. Width setting, fillament diameter and your layer height setting is going to give either high or low resolution to the print and your percentage of width and height are only what the first layer will be. That is my understanding..
Yes that is correct. This is not a tutorial on how to get a perfect first layer. Just basic guidance on what each setting actually does.
I undestand it's basic but in S3D what is put into motion (ie. layer/height percentages) are all going to be based on what has been put into fileds prior to to getting to this entry and I did not hear you explain (basically) that significant.
Maybe that would be good to do. otherwise it may still not make sence why the first layer has gaps between the segments or open holes around the perimeter.
I think your on the right track to explain S3D...I like what your producing i. the videos..
From Simplify3d support site (www.simplify3d.com/support/articles/perfecting-the-first-layer/) ---Adjustments to the First Layer Height allow you to vary the amount of pressure the filament exerts against the bed. There are actually two ways to adjust the height and pressure:
Percentages under 100% will reduce the height of the layer being printed (with no change to the extrusion amount). For example, if you entered 75%, your first layer height is reduced while your extrusion remains at 100%. Another way to think of this is that 100% of your extrusion will be forced into a space that is 75% of the layer height. This reduction in height generates extra pressure and more surface area for that layer, which will help the first layer adhere to the print bed.
In other cases, using a percentage above 100% is helpful. For example, if you are printing at very fine layer heights, such as 0.05mm, a tiny variance in your bed leveling can result in poor first layer adhesion. Using a First Layer Height well above 100% can be extremely helpful in these cases. Many machines benefit from 200 or 300% for the first layer height when the layer height is 0.05 mm or 0.1 mm. The increased thickness of the first layer can help absorb small defects in the build plate and provide more surface contact area, which will result in better first layer adhesion.
Another feature is to ability to change the First Layer Width. By increasing the First Layer Width, many users find that their first layer prints out much smoother and sticks to the bed much easier. This is something that is printer dependent, however, we recommend sticking to values within 100 to 200%.
Great Video. I was wondering if you would think of doing a basic "how to use" Simplify3D? I use craftWare right now and while I am very comfortable with it people keep telling me to use Simplify3D.
That will be the next video in this series :)
Raising the layer height doesn't squish more. It raises the nozzle further from the bed. At .2 height a 150% first layer height will set the nozzle .3mm from the bed and increase flow proportionately. If you want more squish you need to lower the nozzle closer to the bed. That can't be done by changing the first layer height because if you lower the value here the amount of material decreases also.
Thanks
Well explained and I'm on my way now.
Can I set it NOT to print the first layer and begin at the second?
You can set the first layer to 0 layers. That way your first layer will just be infill.
This helps a lot
Good job
can you make a video to show how to use simplify3d bed leveling wizard ? thanks!
I have never used it so I would need to check it out first.
Thanks, very helpful.
This is a great video
Dude, great initiative. However, I want to point out that you are wrong about the First layer width settings. Increasing the width does not increase the space between "traces". The software recalculates the width so that the nozzle extrudes thicker and fatter (at 125%) when compared to 100%. In other words, this directly affects the E values.
eg. if at 100% you extrude 0.4mm lines next to each other at E1.0, at 125%, you will extrude 0.5mm at E1.25. if that makes sense.
It looks like you have a good fan following. Please make sure to correct this in your video. Good luck!
So if I'm understanding this correctly, adjusting first layer width shouldn't have any impact on spacing between material being laid down? I am getting gaps between perimeters and base layer infill - so far adjusting layer width hasn't helped at all - the only thing that is helping is lower nozzle slightly closer to the print bed.
waran dv when I increase the width I get gaps in my first layer fill, I think it literally does just space out lines and not extrude more.
If anyone is struggling with gaps on your first layer - either lower your nozzle, increase extruder multiplier, or increase first layer HEIGHT setting. Increasing the layer width will not fix your problem. The layer width function is useful if you're having layer adhesion issues and you want a wider/thicker track laid down - but the nozzle path adjusts accordingly so it won't do anything to help fill in gaps that are occurring.
@@charlieaf92 There is s subtly here that I think has still been missed. First layer width when increased by 200% does indeed push out 2x the material but it also does increase the path precision by the same ammount. This leads to little change in the material being used but does over-extend at times. Going the other way im sure the same material is used but the head is lowered. You can see finite changes in the material used tally when you slice and change both of these numbers. I got this btw from the simplify3d site after a lot of reading. Their poor documentation of course is to blame for the confusion we all have about the actual mechanics under all of this ... and the fact that they change it from time to time ...... Persoanlly I would like rid of these as most of us print on glass (dont we ). Anyway Fugatech I like the vid I was trawling around tonight researching this trying to bottom out what these settings actually do. It's taken me 2 hours reading 4 different versions to come to what I think is what it's doing. You guys here are 90% right but I think just add the point about >100% and it increases the path precision. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
LAUDER next time! ; )
but anyway: that helped so much, thx!
Your volume in this video is really low btw
Ya I noticed that right after I uploaded. My PC really killed the mic volume when using it via USB so I'll need to figure that out for the next one.
Thanks for making sense of these settings, I had it backwards this whole time (facepalm)