Some of the histories of so many countries has interesting stories connected to them. You have shown some of them in your shows over time, and probably no one would know of them if not for you. Thanks for the enlightenment. Oh by the way, how the big toe going. See you next week mate👍😁
He made many mistakes, not interesting at all! first, Taiwan became part of Japan legally, nothing about 'occupation'. second, the indigenous people were be manipulated by pro-china politician. That female politician got a lot of money from Chinese communist party. She viewed indigenous people in Taiwan is China's minority people. This video should do ore fact checks, should not spread misinformation.
I did not make mistakes. I just didn't go into detail on the backgrounds of the protesters, but I did say they were "a small group", which is true. I know all about 高金素梅 and her history, but I cannot go into that in such a short video. For balance, I also mentioned that many Taiwanese feel differently to those protesters. About "occupation", In my videos I usually refer to Japanese rule of Taiwan as the "colonial period", but in this instance I used "occupy" because I was referring to the military campaign to gain initial control of the island. The definition of occupy is "to use force in order to gain control of", which is appropriate here as that is what the Japanese had to do in spite the signing of the Treaty of Shimonoseki. There is no misinformation in this video, just perhaps some things you don't like or agree with.
It's a sad, yet intriguing story about Taiwan. The 3 names (Attun Palalin, 中村輝夫 and 李光輝) of the soldier show how complex the island's history and its people's self-identity are. I appreciate the content that Richard made in this episode. I'm not sure if most Taiwanese still know or notice the history of the era anymore. Anyone who interprets the story would inevitably have their version of the history. But Richard still decided to make the video instead of evading this controversial but essential part of history for the people who want to understand Taiwan. I felt that Richard has tried to keep the narrative as neutral as possible and some comments might be too harsh. You could see Richard's perspective in the series of videos introducing Taiwan's history. And it's definitely not so-called pro-China or pro-KMT style (though, I'm not saying these points of view are necessarily wrong). Thanks for Richard's video, especially when it was produced on your leisure trip.
My great uncle was also recruited as a Japanese soldier and never came back. In our family no one dared talke about him in front of my grandfather, because we know he was heartbroken about his brother's death. He is also in this Jinja. I hope he rest in peace and I'm willing to visit here someday.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Chinese 壞蛋 that you are, there are no remains enshrined at Yasukuni. Only lists of servicemen whose spirit are waiting for their loved ones to visit them there. Let's meet up under the sakura. “Let's meet again under the sherry trees at Yasukuni” reminds me of Vera Lynn's war time hit, "We will meet again”. War time propaganda demonized, dehumanized the foe. And brainwashed, unthinking and unfeeling zombies keep wallowing in the noxious silt left by torrents of anti-Japanese propaganda (lies).
Your ill-spirited and ill-informed comment earns you the Dope-Slap With Knuckles. Today’s Germans are heartless zombies unable to distinguish the grain from the chaff and frighteningly devoid of empathy towards their forefathers who fought for the fatherland.
@sfbluestar Your ill-spirited and ill-informed comment earns you the Dope-Slap With Knuckles. Today’s Germans are heartless zombies unable to distinguish the grain from the chaff and frighteningly devoid of empathy towards their forefathers who fought for the fatherland.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Chinese 壞蛋 that you are, they are construed as servicemen and officials who died for Japan at the hands of the foe. Occupation is an event of war. Occupation is war continued. Those trials were instances of victor’s justice. The 228 Massacre occurred on Japanese Taiwan as the IMTFE was holding court. The Chinese perpetrators of the 228 Massacre against the Japanese population of UN forces-occupied Japanese Taiwan were never tried.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 They are construed as servicemen and officials who died for Japan at the hands of the foe. Occupation is an event of war. Occupation is war continued. Those trials were instances of victor’s justice conducted during the period of occupation. The 228 Massacre occurred on Taiwan as the IMTFE was holding court. The Chinese perpetrators of the 228 Massacre against the Japanese population of UN forces-occupied Japanese Taiwan were never tried.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Japan pacified “savage” Taiwan, the eastern mountainous part of the island that was inhabited by people that the Manchu called “unassimilated foreigners” (生番), in contrast with the Fujianese-speaking and, later, Cantonese-speaking "assimilated foreigners" (熟飯). Han is a fabrication of the uppity China born out of the 1911 uprising We have already been informed by commenters in this comment section that Japan could not “occupy” Japanese Taiwan. Why does this truth need repeating? Because pigheaded Chinese morons pretend to be deaf and illiterate? It is particularly aggravating to hear that as Taiwan is currently occupied by Chinese who failed to inform the Japanese Taiwanese of Japanese Taiwan and their offspring that the Chinese occupier could not have legally annexed Taiwan. The “principal occupying power”, i.e., the US, did not tolerate that, even if it gave a reluctant nod to the continued occupation of Taiwan after April 28, 1952.
Most were in non-combat positions. Logistics, prison guards, etc. As the Japanese didn't view them as true countrymen. Although some served on the front lines towards the end of the war.
@@AsiaHikelopedia I personally hope those Chinese conscripts weren't involve in the mass killings in Manila... when the Americans began their "liberation" . I also personally hope these soldiers didn't got killed horrifically in the hands of Filipinos .
@@AsiaHikelopedia The Takasago Volunteers (高砂義勇隊, Takasago Giyūtai) were just that, volunteers. Japanese officials were amazed at the large number of applicants that exceeded previsions by far. Their prowesses and commitment earned them the respect of their brothers in arms and the hatred of the allies. The fact that the Japanese government failed to look after those veterans after the war is another Chinese lie. The Chinese occupier regime on Taiwan has been enjoying all the wealth the Japanese had left behind. They were supposed to deduct from that war booty the funds required to properly care for those veterans.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 王八蛋 They were Japanese Komins (皇民) of Japanese Formosa. A little-known fact overlooked by the parties in the San Francisco Peace Treaty that is sure to to send a Chinese nationalist like you into a conniption fit: when Japan surrendered, Taiwan was as thoroughly Japanese as Hawaii became American in 1959. In the mother of all unequal treaties, the US stole an inalienable part of the Japanese territory to park there its Chinese labor (華工) of THE RAPE OF JAPAN (日本大屠殺).😜
Those protested in year 2005 and 2009 are both orchestrated by pro-china figure in Taiwan. The groups of protestors were led by the legislator 高金素梅. She is a prominent pro-china mixed races of China Shandong and Taiwan aboriginal descendent and has been advocating for Taiwan's Chinese identity, supports the non-existent 92 consensus, calling Taiwan a region of China and calling herself Chinese ethnic minority. She regularly goes to China, gets donation from their officals to a NGO she founded in Taiwan. Use the money for her community duty as a legislator that's why she kept being reelected by her voters.
@@AsiaHikelopedia so rather than saying some small groups having issues with the names listed there as if they represent small groups of Taiwanese's voice, the essence of those protests are more like propaganda for China and part of the United Front work. That's why i thought you didnt know...
Funny twist and spin ! Japanese colonization of Chinese and indigenous natives weren't peaceful ! ROC 🇹🇼 is pro-China to begin with ! Only the pan-green are pro-Japan ! See-Hear-Speak no evil .
Foreign News: This Is the Shame Monday, June 10, 1946 TIME "confiscated by the Chinese Army that took over the island, under U.S. tutelage, last fall. But the resumption of trade with tropically lush, industrially rich Formosa was a sweet-&-sour business. Formosans complained that the Chinese occupation army was looting stocks, letting crops, refineries, railroads and power plants go to rack & ruin." "Japan Got the Atom. Chen Yi rounded up scores of "collaborators" while his pooh-bahs made themselves snug. Last week "Down with the Governor!" posters appeared all over the island. In two towns, hungry natives burned sugar godowns. Formosans greeted the few visiting Americans with: "You were kind to the Japanese, you dropped the atom on them. You dropped the Chinese on us!" Thoughtful Chinese on the mainland began to agree with the Formosans. Said Ta Rung Pao, China's counterpart of the New York Times: "Fundamentally speaking, China was not qualified to take over . . . she lacks the men . . . technique . . . commodities . . . capital. She governs, but is inefficient. She takes, but she does not give. This is the government's shame." Most foreign observers in Formosa agreed that if a referendum were taken today Formosans would vote for U.S. rule. Second choice-Japan." btw. "the Chnese"=KMT
@@AsiaHikelopedia What I said "biased" means use of small part of facts to cover up the whole true story. For instance in the video you mention in some day of the year 19xx there was a group of Taiwanese aboriginal people went to Yasukuni Shrine Tokyo Japan requested withdraw of their enshrined ancestors sacrificed for Japan during WWII. But this was just a pollical show directed by KMT regime at that time. I believed most of Taiwanese people are proud that many Taiwanese people sacrificed for Japan during WWII are enshrined in Yasukuni Shrine to be honored and worshiped by all the Taiwanese and Japanese people. There is no controversial Yasukuni Shrine between Taiwan and Japan but just between China and Japan. KMT regime was a Chinese regime fled from China to Taiwan since 1946 and launched a massacre on Taiwanese people a year later.
It's misleading to call Japan occupying Taiwan from 1895 to 1945. It ruled Taiwan with an internationally recognized treaty as a permanent Japanese sovereign. Yes, Japan acquired Taiwan by defeating China in Korea, but throughout history, most treaties were signed because someone lost a war and as a result lost territories. Thus, the Japanese rule was no less legitimate simply because China was forced to give up Taiwan after losing a war. The fact that Japan had to relinquish Taiwan as a result of losing WWII in the San Francisco Peace Treaty underscores the international recognition of Japan's legitimacy in Taiwan before 1945. If Taiwan didn't belong to Japan back then, it would be laughable for Japan to renounce its sovereignty over Taiwan! In addition, these treaties show "permanent" sovereign is seldom permanent, and it can apply to China, Japan, or anyone losing a war, ie. China and Japan lost Taiwan in 1895 and 1945 (or 1951 if we go by the date of the treaty signing) respectively after being defeated. The key is a signed treaty must be respected. If the Chinese can't respect the Shimonoseki treaty to give up Taiwan, then the Japanese don't have to respect the SF Peace Treaty either. That means the Japanese can argue the Chinese are occupying Taiwan after 1945*! I keep emphasizing 1945 because Taiwan didn't belong to Japan after that time. If Japan were still in Taiwan today, then it would be an occupation, but Japan left in 1945. Some people like to argue that since Japan doesn't rule Taiwan today, then its rule from 1895 to 1945 is an occupation. This is poor logic by mixing different eras. Stop embarrassing yourself, please! Others would argue that since the Taiwanese are of Chinese descent, and the Japanese are foreigners, Taiwan under Japan is a colony and thus occupation. In the modern era, the governing authority and the governed people are not necessarily of the same ethnicities. To invalidate sovereignty based on the ethnic line is arcane at best and certainly doesn't hold up by international law. (*Actually no treaties were ever signed to return Taiwan to China when Japan UNILATERALLY relinquished Taiwan in the SF Peace Treaty, but that's a different subject.)
I had this discussion before when the video was published. I would refer you to that, but for some reason it's not here now and I have no idea why. As I said before, I used "occupy" to describe the actual military campaign to take control of the island, not the 50-year colonial period. Usually, in all my videos I refer to this period as the "Japanese colonial period."
@@AsiaHikelopedia I am totally aware of your methodology. We have been through this before. I re-post because my original one for strange reasons disappeared. My problem with the word occupy is that it carries an illegitimate connotation. We will just have to agree to disagree here. In any case, I really enjoy your video. I also appreciate the opportunity to have a cordial and civilized conversation, unlike some mainland Chinese trolls who can't present a good argument but sling insults instead. But in their heads, insults are good logic. Sad!
@@alexd5128 Thanks. I really have no idea what happened to the original thread. I only delete extremely offensive comments and even then not very often. Very strange!
@alexd5128, Although I liked the content of your very useful comment, I disagree that "Taiwan didn't belong to Japan after that time (1945). Treaties are pillars of international law. Occupation does not mean cession or annexation. At the May 1951 US Senate hearing into the “Relief Of MacArthur”, General MacArthur recognized that Taiwan remained a Japanese territory, albeit an occupied territory like the rest of Japan. Taiwan remained legally Japanese until the September 8, 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty entered not force on April 28, 1952. Most historians andjournalists fail to take into account the legal truth of Taiwan. That failure stems for the lack of awareness of the laws of land war and rules of occupation. In 1949, Chiang Kai-shek, his inner circle and 2 million Chinese fled China for exile in Japan. On UN forces or WWII allied forces-occupied Japanese Taiwan, they were host of the Emperor until April 28, 1952 and of the “SFPT article 21 (a) “principal occupying power”, i.e. the US ever after. We know that the occupation of Japanese Taiwan started on October 25, 1945. We also know that Taiwan ceased to be Japanese on April 28, 1952. We know that the period of occupation of Taiwan’s mainland, Japan, came to a close on April 28, 1952. But we never heard that the occupation of Taiwan was ever lifted. Until Kissinger went to brown-nosing Chou En-lai, US -DOS regularly kept the US Congress informed of Taiwan’s “undecided international legal status”. Informed journalist knew that post-WWII Taiwan was a US protectorate. The US never recognized the claim common to the Chinese on both shores of the Taiwan Strait that Taiwan belongs to China. Why? Because US-DOS remembers that John F. Dulles prevailed on Japanese PM Shigeru Yoshida not to cede Taiwan to any China. In preparing for a foretold Chinese invasion of Taiwan it would be wise for the US to unearth Taiwan’s “undecided international legal status” and remind the world that the US has “proprietary interests” (President Truman’s words) staked on Taiwan.
Weird! My well-informed comments intended to stress some overlooked truths and counter the erring comments of Chinese nationalists have been erased. I’ll check on this comment section and my comment will be back. Count on that.
@@AsiaHikelopedia How many of them have been able to infiltrate Google in Mountain View, California? A “Taiwanese American” could easily join Google to silence anti-Chinese voices.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 Yeah! May be. Whatever. But no, there is no Austronesian migration route from the Asian continent to Taiwan, although the reverse rout is proposed by some ethnolinguists. The proposed migration route of Austroasiatic languages speakers goes south from an area comprised between the Pearl River Valley and the Mekong valley toward the Malay peninsula and Sumatra to end on southwest Borneo. “Mainland China” ? "Han people"? You need to rid your language of a pile of confusing Chinese junk, the heritage of brainwashing imposed by a China born in 1911.
我說理察真的超厲害
連這種歴史典故都這麼地清楚 真可謂是專家級的學者了!😊😊😊
最喜歡的歷史系列又來了,Suniuo對日本人來說是比較陌生的,他們比較記得的是小野田寬郎,甚至還有電影紀錄。台灣人知道的也不多,我們對自己島嶼的歷史還沒有對中國的歷史熟悉,希望可以逐步透過教育方針的改變,更加本土化,以台灣為本位出發,建立我們自己的史觀,從而也建立自己的自信心,不要總是覺得別國歷史悠長而看輕自己。
Japan look down on "Taiwanese" as inferior .
Japan sent "Taiwanese" to murder and die for the Japanese emperor !
Richard in Japan! Unreal. Much love from Australia.
謝謝!
感謝
Thanks
Thank you!
Some of the histories of so many countries has interesting stories connected to them. You have shown some of them in your shows over time, and probably no one would know of them if not for you. Thanks for the enlightenment. Oh by the way, how the big toe going. See you next week mate👍😁
Thanks! And toe is fine now!
"enlightenment" ?... More like political correctness .
I'm so glad to see you in Japan. Have a nice trip and family time there. 😊🫡🇹🇼🇬🇧🇯🇵
It was a quick solo trip. Thanks!
Japan's ruling elites refuse to return the remains of "Taiwanese" to Taiwan !
Wow. Super interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it
He made many mistakes, not interesting at all! first, Taiwan became part of Japan legally, nothing about 'occupation'. second, the indigenous people were be manipulated by pro-china politician. That female politician got a lot of money from Chinese communist party. She viewed indigenous people in Taiwan is China's minority people. This video should do ore fact checks, should not spread misinformation.
I did not make mistakes. I just didn't go into detail on the backgrounds of the protesters, but I did say they were "a small group", which is true. I know all about 高金素梅 and her history, but I cannot go into that in such a short video. For balance, I also mentioned that many Taiwanese feel differently to those protesters. About "occupation", In my videos I usually refer to Japanese rule of Taiwan as the "colonial period", but in this instance I used "occupy" because I was referring to the military campaign to gain initial control of the island. The definition of occupy is "to use force in order to gain control of", which is appropriate here as that is what the Japanese had to do in spite the signing of the Treaty of Shimonoseki. There is no misinformation in this video, just perhaps some things you don't like or agree with.
1895~1945 - 日本臺灣國!紀錄片 : 全臺灣 ,南進臺灣 !
日本把台灣殖民為日本領土!
Heard about the earthquake in Taiwan. I hope you and your family are alright! Stay safe
Yes, thank you
Good one, Richard. Cheers.
Welcome back. I used to watch your vlog when you were in Singapore. Hope you and family are ok despite the recent huge earthquake that hit Island.
It's a sad, yet intriguing story about Taiwan. The 3 names (Attun Palalin, 中村輝夫 and 李光輝) of the soldier show how complex the island's history and its people's self-identity are. I appreciate the content that Richard made in this episode. I'm not sure if most Taiwanese still know or notice the history of the era anymore.
Anyone who interprets the story would inevitably have their version of the history. But Richard still decided to make the video instead of evading this controversial but essential part of history for the people who want to understand Taiwan.
I felt that Richard has tried to keep the narrative as neutral as possible and some comments might be too harsh. You could see Richard's perspective in the series of videos introducing Taiwan's history. And it's definitely not so-called pro-China or pro-KMT style (though, I'm not saying these points of view are necessarily wrong).
Thanks for Richard's video, especially when it was produced on your leisure trip.
Richard is a closet separatist supporter. And an apologist for Japanese War Crimes.
原來大鳥居的由來是如此的曲折蜿蜒,謝謝理查親自到日本為觀眾用心做節目❤️🤗👍
My great uncle was also recruited as a Japanese soldier and never came back. In our family no one dared talke about him in front of my grandfather, because we know he was heartbroken about his brother's death. He is also in this Jinja. I hope he rest in peace and I'm willing to visit here someday.
His remains must be return to his hometown in Taiwan !
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165
Chinese 壞蛋 that you are, there are no remains enshrined at Yasukuni. Only lists of servicemen whose spirit are waiting for their loved ones to visit them there. Let's meet up under the sakura. “Let's meet again under the sherry trees at Yasukuni” reminds me of Vera Lynn's war time hit, "We will meet again”. War time propaganda demonized, dehumanized the foe. And brainwashed, unthinking and unfeeling zombies keep wallowing in the noxious silt left by torrents of anti-Japanese propaganda (lies).
靖國神社就是日本忠烈祠,本身是沒有什麼問題
但在1970年代後日本右派開始將WW2反人類戰犯軍官入祀開始就有很大的爭議
天皇也從此不再參拜靖國神社~
日本是WW2 法西斯侵略國給周邊國家乃至世界帶來巨大且沉重的傷害
對靖國神社的處理實在非常遺憾且憤怒
陣亡台灣人日本兵:1980年間邀請靖國神社事務局派塙(はなわ)三郎,於1982年9月確定同意分靈返台奉祀,分祀在新竹縣北埔南天山濟化宮
又稱台灣靖國神社
This is the Asian equivalent of a Hitler Memorial.
Your ill-spirited and ill-informed comment earns you the Dope-Slap With Knuckles. Today’s Germans are heartless zombies unable to distinguish the grain from the chaff and frighteningly devoid of empathy towards their forefathers who fought for the fatherland.
@sfbluestar
Your ill-spirited and ill-informed comment earns you the Dope-Slap With Knuckles. Today’s Germans are heartless zombies unable to distinguish the grain from the chaff and frighteningly devoid of empathy towards their forefathers who fought for the fatherland.
A shrine that honours (from the Japanese point of view) those who died for the country. Seen in this light it may be more acceptable to some.
War criminals were added later on !
🤦
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165
Chinese 壞蛋 that you are, they are construed as servicemen and officials who died for Japan at the hands of the foe. Occupation is an event of war. Occupation is war continued. Those trials were instances of victor’s justice. The 228 Massacre occurred on Japanese Taiwan as the IMTFE was holding court. The Chinese perpetrators of the 228 Massacre against the Japanese population of UN forces-occupied Japanese Taiwan were never tried.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165
They are construed as servicemen and officials who died for Japan at the hands of the foe. Occupation is an event of war. Occupation is war continued. Those trials were instances of victor’s justice conducted during the period of occupation. The 228 Massacre occurred on Taiwan as the IMTFE was holding court. The Chinese perpetrators of the 228 Massacre against the Japanese population of UN forces-occupied Japanese Taiwan were never tried.
@@jeromebesson
Japanese occupiers murdered countless Han-Chinese and Islanders who rebelled against Japanese annexation.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165
Japan pacified “savage” Taiwan, the eastern mountainous part of the island that was inhabited by people that the Manchu called “unassimilated foreigners” (生番), in contrast with the Fujianese-speaking and, later, Cantonese-speaking "assimilated foreigners" (熟飯). Han is a fabrication of the uppity China born out of the 1911 uprising
We have already been informed by commenters in this comment section that Japan could not “occupy” Japanese Taiwan. Why does this truth need repeating? Because pigheaded Chinese morons pretend to be deaf and illiterate?
It is particularly aggravating to hear that as Taiwan is currently occupied by Chinese who failed to inform the Japanese Taiwanese of Japanese Taiwan and their offspring that the Chinese occupier could not have legally annexed Taiwan. The “principal occupying power”, i.e., the US, did not tolerate that, even if it gave a reluctant nod to the continued occupation of Taiwan after April 28, 1952.
每個人對歷史有不同解讀,但理察的影片對歷史說明得不錯🎉🎉🎉Anyway,侵略這件事,造成人民重大傷亡,再蓋神社來祭祀,毫無意義!
這次的中文翻譯字幕沒有很流暢
對不起
@AsiaHikelopedia Never mind. I think. Mostly, I listen to what you say to get more familiar with the British accent. 😆
@@AsiaHikelopedia 不用對不起啦,沒這麼嚴重😅
@@AsiaHikelopedia 謝謝你的用心製作👋🌟👍
So they committed same atrocities?
Most were in non-combat positions. Logistics, prison guards, etc. As the Japanese didn't view them as true countrymen. Although some served on the front lines towards the end of the war.
@@AsiaHikelopedia
I personally hope those Chinese conscripts weren't involve in the mass killings in Manila... when the Americans began their "liberation" .
I also personally hope these soldiers didn't got killed horrifically in the hands of Filipinos .
@@AsiaHikelopedia
The Takasago Volunteers (高砂義勇隊, Takasago Giyūtai) were just that, volunteers. Japanese officials were amazed at the large number of applicants that exceeded previsions by far. Their prowesses and commitment earned them the respect of their brothers in arms and the hatred of the allies. The fact that the Japanese government failed to look after those veterans after the war is another Chinese lie. The Chinese occupier regime on Taiwan has been enjoying all the wealth the Japanese had left behind. They were supposed to deduct from that war booty the funds required to properly care for those veterans.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 王八蛋
They were Japanese Komins (皇民) of Japanese Formosa. A little-known fact overlooked by the parties in the San Francisco Peace Treaty that is sure to to send a Chinese nationalist like you into a conniption fit: when Japan surrendered, Taiwan was as thoroughly Japanese as Hawaii became American in 1959. In the mother of all unequal treaties, the US stole an inalienable part of the Japanese territory to park there its Chinese labor (華工) of THE RAPE OF JAPAN (日本大屠殺).😜
日本大帝國萬歲
大日本沒了!死的死炸的炸,你只能去神社看看他們蒸發的樣子了
👹👺
❤🎉
Those protested in year 2005 and 2009 are both orchestrated by pro-china figure in Taiwan. The groups of protestors were led by the legislator 高金素梅. She is a prominent pro-china mixed races of China Shandong and Taiwan aboriginal descendent and has been advocating for Taiwan's Chinese identity, supports the non-existent 92 consensus, calling Taiwan a region of China and calling herself Chinese ethnic minority. She regularly goes to China, gets donation from their officals to a NGO she founded in Taiwan. Use the money for her community duty as a legislator that's why she kept being reelected by her voters.
I know all this, but I cannot put this in the video out of time considerations. I said a "small group", which is what they were.
@@AsiaHikelopedia so rather than saying some small groups having issues with the names listed there as if they represent small groups of Taiwanese's voice, the essence of those protests are more like propaganda for China and part of the United Front work. That's why i thought you didnt know...
Funny twist and spin !
Japanese colonization of Chinese and indigenous natives weren't peaceful !
ROC 🇹🇼 is pro-China to begin with !
Only the pan-green are pro-Japan !
See-Hear-Speak no evil .
You don't know the true history about Taiwan. You just have the same saying as the KMT regime which ran away into Taiwan from China since 1946.
I do, actually. Please tell me what I said in the video that is wrong. (可以中文)
@@AsiaHikelopedia Nothing wrong, but it's just a biased view as the KMT regime said to Taiwanese people after 1946.
What did I say that was biased?
Foreign News: This Is the Shame
Monday, June 10, 1946 TIME
"confiscated by the Chinese Army that took over the island, under U.S. tutelage, last fall. But the resumption of trade with tropically lush, industrially rich Formosa was a sweet-&-sour business.
Formosans complained that the Chinese occupation army was looting stocks, letting crops, refineries, railroads and power plants go to rack & ruin."
"Japan Got the Atom. Chen Yi rounded up scores of "collaborators" while his pooh-bahs made themselves snug. Last week "Down with the Governor!" posters appeared all over the island. In two towns, hungry natives burned sugar godowns. Formosans greeted the few visiting Americans with: "You were kind to the Japanese, you dropped the atom on them. You dropped the Chinese on us!"
Thoughtful Chinese on the mainland began to agree with the Formosans. Said Ta Rung Pao, China's counterpart of the New York Times: "Fundamentally speaking, China was not qualified to take over . . . she lacks the men . . . technique . . . commodities . . . capital. She governs, but is inefficient. She takes, but she does not give. This is the government's shame."
Most foreign observers in Formosa agreed that if a referendum were taken today Formosans would vote for U.S. rule. Second choice-Japan."
btw.
"the Chnese"=KMT
@@AsiaHikelopedia What I said "biased" means use of small part of facts to cover up the whole true story. For instance in the video you mention in some day of the year 19xx there was a group of Taiwanese aboriginal people went to Yasukuni Shrine Tokyo Japan requested withdraw of their enshrined ancestors sacrificed for Japan during WWII. But this was just a pollical show directed by KMT regime at that time. I believed most of Taiwanese people are proud that many Taiwanese people sacrificed for Japan during WWII are enshrined in Yasukuni Shrine to be honored and worshiped by all the Taiwanese and Japanese people. There is no controversial Yasukuni Shrine between Taiwan and Japan but just between China and Japan. KMT regime was a Chinese regime fled from China to Taiwan since 1946 and launched a massacre on Taiwanese people a year later.
It's misleading to call Japan occupying Taiwan from 1895 to 1945. It ruled Taiwan with an internationally recognized treaty as a permanent Japanese sovereign. Yes, Japan acquired Taiwan by defeating China in Korea, but throughout history, most treaties were signed because someone lost a war and as a result lost territories. Thus, the Japanese rule was no less legitimate simply because China was forced to give up Taiwan after losing a war. The fact that Japan had to relinquish Taiwan as a result of losing WWII in the San Francisco Peace Treaty underscores the international recognition of Japan's legitimacy in Taiwan before 1945. If Taiwan didn't belong to Japan back then, it would be laughable for Japan to renounce its sovereignty over Taiwan! In addition, these treaties show "permanent" sovereign is seldom permanent, and it can apply to China, Japan, or anyone losing a war, ie. China and Japan lost Taiwan in 1895 and 1945 (or 1951 if we go by the date of the treaty signing) respectively after being defeated. The key is a signed treaty must be respected. If the Chinese can't respect the Shimonoseki treaty to give up Taiwan, then the Japanese don't have to respect the SF Peace Treaty either. That means the Japanese can argue the Chinese are occupying Taiwan after 1945*! I keep emphasizing 1945 because Taiwan didn't belong to Japan after that time. If Japan were still in Taiwan today, then it would be an occupation, but Japan left in 1945. Some people like to argue that since Japan doesn't rule Taiwan today, then its rule from 1895 to 1945 is an occupation. This is poor logic by mixing different eras. Stop embarrassing yourself, please! Others would argue that since the Taiwanese are of Chinese descent, and the Japanese are foreigners, Taiwan under Japan is a colony and thus occupation. In the modern era, the governing authority and the governed people are not necessarily of the same ethnicities. To invalidate sovereignty based on the ethnic line is arcane at best and certainly doesn't hold up by international law. (*Actually no treaties were ever signed to return Taiwan to China when Japan UNILATERALLY relinquished Taiwan in the SF Peace Treaty, but that's a different subject.)
Both the SF Peace Treaty and Shimonoseki Treaty are sham !
🇺🇲 excluded 🇨🇳 from participating in it !
🇯🇵 wanted 🀄 land much more than it's Silver !
I had this discussion before when the video was published. I would refer you to that, but for some reason it's not here now and I have no idea why. As I said before, I used "occupy" to describe the actual military campaign to take control of the island, not the 50-year colonial period. Usually, in all my videos I refer to this period as the "Japanese colonial period."
@@AsiaHikelopedia I am totally aware of your methodology. We have been through this before. I re-post because my original one for strange reasons disappeared. My problem with the word occupy is that it carries an illegitimate connotation. We will just have to agree to disagree here. In any case, I really enjoy your video. I also appreciate the opportunity to have a cordial and civilized conversation, unlike some mainland Chinese trolls who can't present a good argument but sling insults instead. But in their heads, insults are good logic. Sad!
@@alexd5128 Thanks. I really have no idea what happened to the original thread. I only delete extremely offensive comments and even then not very often. Very strange!
@alexd5128,
Although I liked the content of your very useful comment, I disagree that "Taiwan didn't belong to Japan after that time (1945). Treaties are pillars of international law. Occupation does not mean cession or annexation.
At the May 1951 US Senate hearing into the “Relief Of MacArthur”, General MacArthur recognized that Taiwan remained a Japanese territory, albeit an occupied territory like the rest of Japan. Taiwan remained legally Japanese until the September 8, 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty entered not force on April 28, 1952.
Most historians andjournalists fail to take into account the legal truth of Taiwan. That failure stems for the lack of awareness of the laws of land war and rules of occupation.
In 1949, Chiang Kai-shek, his inner circle and 2 million Chinese fled China for exile in Japan. On UN forces or WWII allied forces-occupied Japanese Taiwan, they were host of the Emperor until April 28, 1952 and of the “SFPT article 21 (a) “principal occupying power”, i.e. the US ever after.
We know that the occupation of Japanese Taiwan started on October 25, 1945. We also know that Taiwan ceased to be Japanese on April 28, 1952. We know that the period of occupation of Taiwan’s mainland, Japan, came to a close on April 28, 1952. But we never heard that the occupation of Taiwan was ever lifted.
Until Kissinger went to brown-nosing Chou En-lai, US -DOS regularly kept the US Congress informed of Taiwan’s “undecided international legal status”. Informed journalist knew that post-WWII Taiwan was a US protectorate. The US never recognized the claim common to the Chinese on both shores of the Taiwan Strait that Taiwan belongs to China. Why?
Because US-DOS remembers that John F. Dulles prevailed on Japanese PM Shigeru Yoshida not to cede Taiwan to any China. In preparing for a foretold Chinese invasion of Taiwan it would be wise for the US to unearth Taiwan’s “undecided international legal status” and remind the world that the US has “proprietary interests” (President Truman’s words) staked on Taiwan.
可以問個題外話嗎?很想聽聽理察以一位在台灣的老外的身分,對這次台灣0403地震的看法...
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Weird! My well-informed comments intended to stress some overlooked truths and counter the erring comments of Chinese nationalists have been erased. I’ll check on this comment section and my comment will be back. Count on that.
Not sure why comments would disappear. Probably flagged by over-sensitive pinks?!?
@@AsiaHikelopedia
How many of them have been able to infiltrate Google in Mountain View, California? A “Taiwanese American” could easily join Google to silence anti-Chinese voices.
如果沒有美國原子彈,整個亞洲除了印度外應該都是日本帝國的擴張領土,現代化且優秀的人才培育日本展現強大的國力,戰爭是人類不可缺的產物,互相侵略改變現狀,這就是歷史!至於人人評論他國的想法並無法改變甚麼,清朝植民台灣250年但只是1/5的土地,無法全部征服納入管理,1895,清朝割讓台灣給日本應該交接順服的,不是嗎?怎麼會耍煽動抗日呢?總之日本的興起促使亞洲各國紛紛獨立打退歐洲列強!
Dude, this is controversial..
Brainwashed Japan War crimes apologist .
那這樣中國入侵台灣就說的通了!反正戰爭是人類不可或缺的產物,而且至少語言 傳統文化至少相似,比日本吞併台灣更具合法性👌
侵略者戰犯收藏地!
This is in response to a reply by user-eq8xh8vy6i. For unknown reasons, my reply keeps being removed. Here we go. "中国人被侵略被统治的时代也早就一去不复返!"
台灣人早期是南島民族...後來來了不少人住戶。根據馮自由記述,「三民主義之民生主義,舊譯為社會主義SOCIALISM,總理在乙已民報出版以前初亦嘗用之。其後總理以此名未能包括已所發明之意義,乃別創民生主義一名以代之。在同盟會成立之前,嘗語人曰:余之主張為『大同主義』,在英語應名之曰COSMOPOLITAN,亦即『世界大同主義』。」
Austronesian sailed to Taiwan from present-day Mainland China .
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 阿Q,
Long before those tertitories were colonized by the Chinese, they were the lands of the Bai Yue (百越), 阿Q.
@@jeromebesson
The Austroasiatic people were responsible for forcing Austronesian people out of Mainland China... prior to colonization of Han people.
@@peekaboopeekaboo1165
Yeah! May be. Whatever.
But no, there is no Austronesian migration route from the Asian continent to Taiwan, although the reverse rout is proposed by some ethnolinguists. The proposed migration route of Austroasiatic languages speakers goes south from an area comprised between the Pearl River Valley and the Mekong valley toward the Malay peninsula and Sumatra to end on southwest Borneo.
“Mainland China” ? "Han people"? You need to rid your language of a pile of confusing Chinese junk, the heritage of brainwashing imposed by a China born in 1911.
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