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People forget that six days after Tate murders, Woodstock started - an iconic four days of peace and music. Even in old Woodstock documentary footage, they zoom in on a Tate headline on the front of one of the newspapers in the town of Bethel, NY. I now wonder if the Manson murders indirectly contributed to the vibe of Woodstock. Between Vietnam and the timing of the Manson tragedy, maybe there was a greater subconscious desire than ever for peace and love....and just a world that made sense...even if just for a few days. That said, you know it's a great movie when you are left wanting more of the characters. I am left wanting Cliff and Rick's stories to continue. Did Rick go on to work with Polanski? Did new success for Rick allow he and Cliff to stay together? Was Cliff's time as a stunt man over because of his injury? I am also left wanting more of their back stories. ....And at the same time, I also like the idea of it being forever a mystery left to the imagination. We just get a glimpse into these guys' lives, and that's it.
@@fromthehaven94 Not cruel. He was training her. Doesn't matter if the dog is agressive or not if you bring discipline it will be much more easier for you to control him/her in unexpected situations.
"and who are you?" "i'm the devil, and i'm here to do the devils work" "nah it was something dumber than that, it was like... rex.... yeah rex" "god shoot him tex" "aaah tex right"
It's kind of interesting that the gates open and let Rick in was seen as him being let in on the next wave of cinema, where as to me it felt like the gates of heaven/afterlife, with Sharon's disembodied voice welcoming him up. like the death of this era of hollywood movies, just like the death of this era of 60s love/peace, and they're all just chilling at Tate's house.
This makes a lot more sense to me. In showing Manson’s followers murdered in perfect “holywood style,” and then Rick being brought into the gates of Tate, Taruntino reminds us that what we have witnessed doesn’t really happen in the real world. The hero doesn’t always swoop in, guns blazing, to save the day at the last minute. In showing us the not-so glamourus parts of Hollywood celebrity life through Rick Dalton, the underlying cruelty of hippie culture through Cliff’s adventure, and “meta” moments like tate enjoying her own movie and Cliff invading old Hollywood movies Forest-Gump style, Taruntino does the reverse, showing us parts of Los Angelas life the audience rarely sees, never mind see on the big screen. The idea of old Holywood (and perhaps today’s Hollywood as well) was always a myth, this fantasy we still use to blanket the sinister truth underneath it all.
Nice interpretation, i like it. It could also be tied to the promise he made of shooting himself if he went back into alcohol. He was drinking a whole jug of booze just before, maybe he did shoot himself and kept his promise and integrity to himself at the same time...
And let's not forget the fact that Leonard DiCaprio won the Oscars for getting mauled by a grizzly bear in _Revenant._ That's pretty crazy for such a great actor.
This film is one of the main examples of why I feel context matters in films. If you had no idea about the 60s,the affect the Manson Murders had and knowledge of the films of that era you won't probably enjoy it as much or understand the nuance of ending. Which I why understand the people you say they didn't like this film as much as Tarantinos others but for me personally as someone who does know about the era the movie portrays and is a huge fan of the films of that time I enjoyed it immensely and almost teared up at the ending. I don't really think it's far to say we should ignore external factors like context since all films are personal experiences so it's meant to affect everyone differently. With the case of this film it definetly benefitted from it.
This was exactly my experience. I didnt know about the murders or understand the random characters after watching the movie. Now it all makes sense and I have a much deeper appreciation for it!
Yea, I went to watch the movie but I had no clue about the history. So it confused me that this movie is an award-winning one before watching this explanation
the context is everything ... Tarantino loves the 60's and has done it justice. the Manson family does not make the massacre that unfortunately made them famous and that precipitates everything in a nightmare and even if you don't see it in the movie, Altamont was a second Woodstock full of peace & love .....
@@sinyitsang9598 It is amazing to me that so many people aren't familiar with the Manson story. But those of who do are getting up there and the young'uns don't know a lot of things.
@@Jyxorz I would highly suggest the channel Cinefix. I swear, my watch list gets a lot longer every time they put out a new "Top # movies" video. I've found a bunch of great movies I've never heard of before from that channel.
I remember seeing the movie with my dad and how happy I was to see her live (Sharon Tate ) but then as soon as the credits began and as soon as the lights turned on I felt kind of depressed because I remembered that’s not how it happened that’s not what really happened that night
YES. That is exactly the way it went for me. I also felt glad that Sharon had lived and after it was over and it had settled with me, I felt kind of a profound sadness. And that's kind of interesting because the real Sharon Tate was apparently a wonderful woman and her friends considered her a ray of sunshine. That's one reason her death and the randomness of it has been carried in our minds and hearts. It also, for me, made me consider the events in real life that may not have ever happened had Tate lived. Polanskis later arrest for sexual assault, in particular.
Me too. I was cheering Brad Pitt when he annihilated the Manson crew but after it ended truth and reality set in. I thought about how they were brutally murdered. So sad!
When Tate died (it was a different time) it was unbelievable for me. Actors don't get killed or even die. Never see a real person die on TV . So younger people, who are not 72, may not will get the feel of this movie. You just can't. But I can feel the present but having history in my back pocket gives me a heads up. I really hope some day (you) reading this, see a movie that takes you back to happier and younger times. I really love this movie.
12:46 and now utilizing their children. Maya Hawke (Uma Thurman's daughter) is part of the Manson family and Rumer Willis (Bruce Willis's daughter) plays Joanna Pettet. Both Uma and Bruce were in Pulp Fiction by Tarantino.
Theory: Both Maya Hawke and Rumer Willis’s characters in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are basically the sisters of Uma Thurman and Bruce Willis characters in Pulp Fiction.. hence the reason of the connection of the two movies..
I see Cliff Booth as the real engine of the movie and the force who was used to "change history", as QT loves to do. I saw it this way... Cliff's three primary scenes are: One, the dream sequence up on the roof (where he stands up to Bruce Lee and wrecks the supreme aura of his legend, WHILE ALSO laying eyes on Charles Manson getting out of the truck. This was foreshadowing that Cliff would wreck the evil legacy of the Manson gang in the finale). Second, his trip to the ranch. (Which I also think is a dream sequence because if you watch his hand gesture to PussyCat over the steering wheel, I think he actually waved her off and didn't pick her up once again. Hence, the Ranch scene was also a dream sequence). C'mon, everybody in the theatre was terrified that the cult zombies would take him out as that Ranch scene slowly crept along. And just like when he stood up to Bruce, he owned that entire scene and made the gang look like a pack of limp losers. Third, the finale. The acid cigarette permits entrance of this also being a dream sequence, with Cliff brutally dishing out divine justice to these murderous pigs and sparing the lives of Sharon, her baby and friends. NOW - notice that in all threes of these crucial scenes, where is Rick? He is either acting like a cowboy on set, or happily floating in the pool with his headphones on. LDC's scenes are some of his best ever - but I still contend Cliff is the main character. Cliff is changing history while Rick is acting, pretending or wishing too. And who benefits in the end? As Cliff is loaded into the Ambulance (as the savior archetype), Rick strolls up the driveway and greets pregnant Sharon and her friends. As they ascend to the mansion, an ascent purchased by Cliff's sacrifice, it looked almost symbolic of passing through the pearly gates and up into heaven - where death doesn't happen and Rick's selfish dream of no longer being a has-been are no more. All of this made possible by.......Cliff Booth.
You went a little overboard with the dream sequence thing. By doing so, you reduce a brilliant allegory to mere "wish it were" fantasy, imho. However, you do have a good creative sense & you write well.
Ray Davison Thanks Ray. Watching the Oscars now and disappointed QT didn’t win Best Original Screenplay. Really happy for Brad! Hoping for more trophy’s tonight. But why would a dream sequence cancel out allegory? I think they fit beautifully....
@@raydavison4288 I think the dream sequence hypothesis still has merits tho. In the end, the story is historical revisionism. So by making Cliff's action only happens in his dream, it adds another layer that blurred the story (of the movie) and the actual happenstance further.
The Bounty Law sequence at the beginning foreshadows the ending : Rick : .... "Not when there's 3 of them and 1 of me". This is what his stuntman Cliff faced, once again doing Rick's fights and stunts and his dirty work. Brilliant storytelling....
I am a huge Leo fan, I was waiting this movie because he was starring in it, but holy shit, Brad Pitt really stole the show!!! Yes, he should take the Oscar 👍
Brad's character was awesome but leo's ACTING takes the cake Like the meltdown scenes or when he was acting in his spaghetti western, he was great Brad Pitt didn't have much variety in his acting performance, he basically had about 2 emotions the whole movie, he's just the cool badass guy and a great friend to rick dalton (and i'm not saying this to belittle him, his character is literally my favorite, just disagreeing with your statment about him winning an oscar for that performance)
Manson was, by his own admission NOT a hippie. He was a pre-boomer ex con white supremacist who preyed on damaged young women runaways who wanted to be hippies. Now, I am quite the critic of the reckless nihilistic excess of the whole quasi hippie thing, but Manson was more Aryan nation than Tim Leary. BTW-FYI: I am from the same area as Manson's mothers family & knew quite a few of his aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., and they were almost all lowlife drunks, thieves, & layabouts who would be meth-heads or oxy-contin addicts today. Again, FYI: Manson was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. His father's identity is unknown & his alcoholic mother once sold him for a case of beer. if I judge by his relatives, he would have probably called his father, "Uncle Daddy". There's a lot of good people in Appalachia, but there's also a bunch of atavistic cro-magnons & Manson's relatives are of the second type.
Yeah that’s something that really throws me off about this film. Why did he decide to label all the murderers as hippies? Just because hippies are worried about the violence in his films? It’s a huge jump and I don’t think there was any skill in the connection other than the idea upsetting him greatly. Just felt like a tantrum.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but the little boy who grew up to be Charles Manson never really had a chance. We'd have a lot less crime if children were cared for.
Both deserved it for their own reasons. But overall it would be also Forest Gump for me . But Brad Pitt? I do not get what was that special about this peformance. For me it feels like not Brad Pitt got the award it was the Character he played, it could be anybody who played that role. But for me his charcter gave me no oscar vibes i would rather give Samuel Jackson an oscar for his role in Pulp Fiction.
@Migalors Darwin kinda overrating yourself, there, as a film critic. If even after seeing this video explaining the depth of his craft, you're still like, "nah", ok then.
@@migalorsdarwin1930 Yeah I agree, half of his movies are awesome but the other half are crap. All glorify swearing and violence which appeal to younger generations. Best way to attract new audience however.
If it was irrelevant it wouldn’t be in the film. The fact that Cliff likely killed his wife complicates his role as the “hero” and forces new interpretations-a theme which isn’t addressed in this video.
I think it was addressed but not explicitly. Nine years before in Rick and Cliff’s life, they WERE the men in the white hats in Hollywood, but now Rick is an alcoholic that plays bad guys and Cliff may or may not killed his wife. The video says the era started to focus more on morally ambiguous men, so the flaws we get to see are the crash between eras.
I saw it as a rather unfortunate reference to the death of Natalie Wood and Robert Wagner's involvement in it. The fact that Sharon was reflected in such a tender, endearing light while "Natalie" was an afterthought or a throwaway joke puzzled me.
It was fantastic, I became anxious as I recognised the horrific events that were going to happen and was completely overcome by Tarantino's ending, superbly done and thought all the actors were out of this world
In the end the "hero" Rick burns up one of the Manson girls who isn't even threatening him. It was his stunt double who did all the hard work, but the actor gets the glory.
Okay, so I seen the movie three times now, and I'm not totally sure. If this was Quentin Tarantino's intention for this and maybe I'm not understanding his words when he says that. It was a way to metaphorically Save Sharon Tate. But I also look at it this way. That I think that the movie Put Sharon Tate in a more positive light rather than just being known for the Manson Murders. But more or less as a good-hearted person a person that was an actress and she was going to have a long career. Absolutely, just sort of painting her in a positive light. Is sort of a good way of honoring her. As the way that she and her family would want her to be honored if you made it this far on this comment, thank you. I know this was pretty long.
I was born on the morning of 08 August 1969. Quentin Tarantino gave me the BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER!!! That is why this movie will always have a special place in my heart.
Having read all the books about the Manson family when I was in High School a million years ago, I absolutely love the ending of this movie! This movie truly has a Hollywood ending that I wish was the real ending to the Manson saga!
I just finished watching this today, since it's on primevideo now. This was brilliant timing. The analysis was exceptionally illuminating, especially to someone from a different country who can't feel the impact that the depicted events really had in the environment around them, it really gives me a more in depth perspective of the film. Also Pitt was easily the best part of the film, stole the show; but the Saloon scene with Dicaprio threatening the Lancers was great too.
I have to say I haven’t always “gotten” Tarantino, but as a friend said recently “This movie was like a love letter to those of us who grew in that era.” The death of Tate and everyone else was just a big WTF to the whole world. Even after the trial, I one could wrap their head around it. And in the most simplistic form, it was a big dose of the harsh reality that we so easily escape from in our world: goodness and purity (and beauty) don’t always win. Sometimes evil and ugly do. And in a post WWII generation, this had a big effect to the subconscious. Now we know the government is not always for the people, now we see that good does not always triumph, but after WWII, America very much had a sense of peace and prosperity that even Europe didn’t feel until a decade later. I think a modern reference would be the death of Princess Diana. The 90’s were kind of the 60’s 2.0. Everything was new fresh and exciting. But when this you g, beautiful woman with so much to live for died so senselessly, it shook people. As someone who has seen and read as much as possible about Sharon Tate, I don’t think it is something that will ever make sense. Charles Manson did see her. He did go to that house in (June or July?) looking for Melcher. Instead of Jay Sebring, it was a photographer friend of hers who was there and as he was talking to Charles, Sharon walked up behind her friend and watched. The man has I told him to f-k off. He gave an interview years later about this. Charles did not speak to Sharon, but as he stormed off, she asked “Who was that?”. And Vincent Bugliosi had to have a “theory” to prosecute those idiots. But the reason for it all comes down to something so simple, it doesn’t match the effects of the action. Charles Manson was a psycho. He said it himself. And he wanted to hurt people. He wanted to hurt Terry Melcher for bailing on him, but mostly he was an angry man, who came from bad parents, he was treated badly by society and he wanted revenge on the world. And killing the only famous people he could get to was good enough for him. That’s all. If he could have gotten access to Jackie O, he would have killed her. He just wanted what he basically got: to shock and awe society. He got off on that. It’s as simple as that. But, people want the reasons to be bigger than that. Someone like Sharon Tate can’t just be killed randomly. That doesn’t fit our thinking. The reasons for her death have to balance out the immense reactions to it. So people created a lot of rumors. Some still believe them.
Beatnik RN I agree with your assessment of Charles Manson, he was a loser in life, & he found companions even more lost than him, & he used them to satiate his thirst for revenge against the world he thought closed the doors to him.
This was one of the better explanations of a movie that you will find. Awesome detail. Best movie of the year by a country mile. Pitt, Robbie, and DiCaprio were fantabulous to steal a word from a stupid movie. But the real star of the movie was Brandy. A special thank you to QT for altering the reality of one of the saddest days in America history in an extremely badass way. Of all of his great movies and he has made a ton of them this one is at the very top.
I really enjoyed One Upon A Time In Hollywood, full of movie and TV stars, action, comedy, nostalgia, evocative songs, etc ! Born in 1958, I was 10 when Sharon Tate was murdered and although I hadn't seen any of her movies (my father told me then she was Elly May Clampett on The Beverly Hillbillies, so he was confusing her with Donna Douglas but he wasn't far, later I found out that Tate played a minor character in an episode of that series) her death left an impression on me, as the MLK & RFK killings had the year before. So for me it was refreshing to watch Tarantino's vision of such a tragic event and his own personal justification to remake the facts in a way we all wish it had ended. Usually I don't like the kind of violence depicted in this picture but this time those bad guys really deserved what came to them. Also, the movie is so loaded with references to the TV series I recall from that period and the actors who starred in them that I had to see it twice. Nicholas Hammond, the guy who was Peter Parker in the 70s Spiderman TV series which I was a fan of, played director Sam Wanamaker in a scene. So many of the 60s TV western actors virtually disappeared from the screen (Ty Hardin, Clint Walker, Chuck Connors, to name some) while just a few of them trascended to movie stardom (Reynolds, Eastwood, McQueen, Bronson, etc) that it made me wonder what happened to those who could not. Tarantino answered some of those questions for me. This movie was great, up to Leonardo' very funny cigarette ad during the credits (you should never ever abandon the theater when the credits start rolling, stay seated, you already payed the full price, so relax and enjoy). Blessings from San Juan PR !!!
I was 9 when the Sharon Tate murders happened. My cousins, who I used to visit, read crime magazines, and they told me those murders took place up the road. Scared me half to death.
This movie is also a memory piece for me. I’m a little older than Tarantino, and grew up on the other end of the state, but much of this story rings true to my life. I became a character because of actors like Rick Dalton.
momo 756 They did Carrie, Miranda and Mr. Big. Must have been a year ago or so. I wish, they had done Sam and Charlotte as well, though. Seems a shame, to leave the set uncompleted. Especially, since it was such a wildly popular series, with such contrasting characters.
My "cool" Uncle drove a baby blue Karmann Ghia just like Cliff's in the 60's. Being 7 years old in 1969 I really got this film and know just how Tarantino feels and what he was trying to do. I lived through that time it it was very much a roller coaster from day to day. Great moments mixed with tragic or even horrifying ones. Being the same age and having grown up on the same pop culture of the 60's and 70's I get the subtle (and no so subtle) references he makes in his movies.
This movie is elite. I find it very similar to Dazed and Confused. You feel like you go along for the ride with each of the characters in the movie. The big difference is that Tarantino picked Sharon Tate as on of those characters and brilliantly added his awesome fictional version of the Manson murders.
9:02 One of my favourite moments of them playing around with the Cliff Character is the hands free free run up the roof when the guy doing it is evidently deliberately not Brad Pitt but a stunt man.
Aspiring writer Voytek Frykowski? The guy was a drug dealer, living on Roman Polanski's couch, being an absolute slug doing nothing but mooching. He was a big reason why the Manson crew went up there that night. He was actually "aspiring" to the one of the major dealers of MDA in LA
@@Lillithowl It was both Manson and Tex Watson who had been up there multiple times. But they didn't go there simply "because Manson had been there before" .. There is alot more to that story.
Yeah, but I think that was the point. Fairytales are for kids, who are used to sugary things with no content - something we sure as hell need in today's landscape of fear and distrust.
@@afonsolucas2219 I think he had an opportunity to really say something informative about the entertainment industry of the time or the changing society, but sorta just skimmed the surface.
@@afonsolucas2219 It isn't full of substance. Inglorious Basterds is full of substance. Pulp Fiction is full of substance. Once Upon a Time is just not, which is pretty evident if you just compare it to earlier Tarantino's movies, especially the two I mentioned. I love and respect Tarantino, but this was a misfire of a movie.
That would've been satisfying as all hell, but it ruins the concept of Sharon being this almost inhuman presence, a symbol of peace. As incredible as the idea of Sharon Tate and her friends killing the Mansons is, the final battle isn't truly about just being cathartic. It's almost eerie, after, when you hear Sharon's disembodied voice over the intercom and you're reminded of what really happened.
I was hoping they'd go back to the ranch and kill Charles Manson and burn the place down or something. I like to think that's what Cliff did after getting out of the hospital.
Besides violence, Manson's "family" also distributed syphilis far and wide. It was rife among the young women and one wonders how many of them eventually succumbed to the long-term consequences of the disease.
And don't miss the Christopher Jones reference when the camera pans past the 3 In The Attic theater marquee. Jones was approached by Tarentino to be in Pulp Fiction in the opening restaurant scene. Jones turned Tarentino down. So this was Quentin's way of honoring Jones memory and also saying He finally got Jones in one of His movies.
prince imed he said in the beginning scene where Sharon and Roman are first driving up that he’s “one pool party away from being in a Polanski film” I noticed that too!
I took it the same way. And because Rick stays employed- I believed Cliff therefore stays employed. But my burning question is- “how big is the fight between Cliff, Rick and Rick’s wife on who keeps he dog when Rick gets out of hospital?😄”. You know that dog was babied after that night. especially when it ran into the bedroom after Cliff goes Monster Rage to watch over the wife.
@@Rollimggiant ...Yeah, he came back from London. It's definitely implying that Rick and Cliff's careers flourish because Polanski and Tate get them in one of their movies.
Wow. Wildly informative, this video hardly gives you time to catch your breath. Explains your hidden desire to see the movie another fifteen times. And how the movie is a reflection of the whole Hollywood concept of making movies; plus, (bonus), what QT is all about, then and now...(clue: that last elipsis is PACKED)
In Hollywood you can write the ending anyway you want. It's all fairy tale. But, as Tarantino says, movies can't change history. The Manson family murders are just a vehicle in this film. The stuntman is the real hero in this movie and in movie making. Cliff and Rick remind me of Norton and Pitt in Fight Club. Two sides of the same person. In this Tarantino film reality was way more violent than film, but then this film doesn't reflect reality. I loved the scene, though, where Rick torched Susan Atkins in the pool. That would have been so great!
Great video! Love your essays and how you carefully explains things! Also I hadn’t thought about the movie being about the loss of innocence of the 19060’s. Great point!
This video was a pretty decent analysis of the film, while at the same time, allowing those who have seen the movie to interpret certain facets of it in their own ways (though I think it’s possible that those initial interpretations could change - either a little or a lot - after seeing the movie several times). Tarantino is a master storyteller, and yes, some of his films feature revised history… but unlike other directors who are known for being “revisionist” when making films that are based on actual historical events (Oliver Stone is probably the most well-known offender for this), Tarantino’s stories are accepted because he’s not trying to revise history in order to make people believe that his film’s revised events are what actually happened… Instead, he offers an “alternate universe” in which historical events are indeed changed, but he presents these as fictional “what if” scenarios. In “Once Upon A Time” Tarantino KNOWS that everyone knows that Sharon Tate and the others at the house on Cielo Drive that night in August of 1969 were in fact murdered, as much as he knows everyone knows that Hitler, Goebels, and other high ranking Nazi officers were not assassinated in a theater by an elite squad of US commandos, as his film “Inglorious Basterds” portrays. The difference between Oliver Stone and Quentin Tarantino, is that Stone makes fairytales and attempts to convince people that they are the actual truth…where Tarantino instead creates fiction based on actual history, and presents them as fairytales. IMHO.
I was 10 when the Manson murders happened. It was after the MLK and RFK assassinations and I really think it did bring an end to the whole idea of the 60s that the young generation were about peace love and freedom. It was a turning point.
The death of the American Cowboy was a genre of the time. Midnight Cowboy, Easy Rider, etc. They were all about how Hippies were the new cowboy. Personal freedom was the new "wild west" or frontier and that the cowboys of old were the villains.
to me this movie was a metaphor for the end of the 60s. things were changing. the dream was turning sour. violence and drugs were taking over. but i did love cliff. loyal,tough, and refusing to take s""t from anyone.
9:00 I've been a follower and admirer of Bruce Lee since I was 13, and while, unlike Shannon Lee, I didn't dislike the scene, but I thought the dialogue was inaccurate to how Bruce actually spoke. Michael Moh did an awesome performance, despite the material he was given. Just my 5 cents.
Antony Drossos Yeah I see how the daughter felt it was mockery. Bruce Lee was a figure to laugh at in the film and while I understand that creative choice it felt kinda slack.
Really good analysis, thanks! Also, Pacino is now a full blown caricature of himself. In all the recent roles I've seen him in, it's like he's doing a parody of someone else's impression of Al Pacino acting, which is weird and kinda sad.
I really enjoy the positive spin you put onto films you analyze. I really don't like Tarantino and not a fan of his films (except Kill Bill Vol 1 ). But I try to watch his films at least once, including this one. I didn't like it, I was so bored. However, your video highlighted themes I noticed but didn't really pay attention to. I appreciate that and I might go watch this film again because of your, take.
This film is the most "meditative" of all his films, which is something I don't think anyone was a) expecting from him, and b) didn't suspect he would have an interest in expressing. It is because the film is "unexpected" that it's kinda becoming a little divisive for some. I, for one, loved it all the way through. And as someone who is prone to melancholy, I get what he is saying. Personally, this one really resonates with me.
There are millions of us that imagine.... what if the killers were stopped... and that quantum shift in our culture had not occurred. ... We cannot change the past, but Quinten is not alone in pondering a 'what-if'.
On my first viewing, I must have missed a line of dialogue because I thought the hippies just made a mistake and attacked the wrong house. That history can change significantly by being off the mark by one house.
I just saw this the other day. I think this is the best Tarantino movie ever made. It is as good as Kill Bill 1 and Reservoir Dogs. Maybe it struck several chords with me because I just turned 50.
So, call me sentimental. The thing I saw in this film was the friendship between Rick and Cliff. Rick leaned on Cliff a lot and Cliff was completely unselfish and giving. But in the end, when Rick was asked if everyone was alright he failed to acknowledge that his friend Cliff had been hurt. He said, more than once, that everyone was fine. That hurt my heart a little.
That doesn't make it right. Rick should have acknowledged him, Cliff did save his life after all. He completely threw him away to satisfy his own fantasy of meeting Sharon Tate ... completely selfish!! Do you believe Cliff really didn't want Rick to come to the hospital to check on him? If so, I think you're wrong!
Loved this movie. Seen it three times already. People who think the film has no “substance”, or whatever, weren’t paying attention. They need something like Joker, with the director sitting next to them in the theater, yelling “GET IT? DO YOU GET IT?????!!!!!!!” In their ear.
The movie actually has very little substance - especially in comparison to other Tarantino's films. If you really think only the ignorant may dislike this movie, it's not only as arrogant as it gets, but also dead wrong. His two latest films really are empty. One may "fill in the blanks" with own research, but that's hardly the point of cinema. If a movie inspires you to research some more on its subject, then it succeeded, but if you have to fill in the blanks in order to "understand" the movie at all, then it's just a bad or empty movie. And honestly, just compare Once Upon a Time with Inglorious Basterds. Every freaking scene in the Basterds is full of substance and context, and the entire film in general is even more, to the point that it's open to different, but all very reasonable interpretations. What's to interpret in Once Upon a Time? How Quentin felt as a kid in the 60s? How does he remember the decade? That doesn't even belong in the same league as themes in Basterds. As for the supposed culture clash "examined" by the movie, I'm still to hear what does it actually say about the culture clash in question. Both sides of the said culture clash are depicted shallowly and bloodlessly. The reasons for and lines of the clash are touched only in one scene (when hippies in the car discuss the change of target), which is far from enough. Instead, there are endless scenes of Cliff feeding his dog. And don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at Quentin as some disappointed/entitled fans might be. As far as I'm concerned, he already contributed heavily to the world in general and cinema in particular, with his earlier works. But this was just an empty, insignificant and shallow movie.
@@zarmiodrag horseshit, if you don't like a movie it doesn't mean it has failed in delivering on any element, especially if you think basterds had more subtext than this, the whole story was subtext, and yes the only way someone would call this emlty is ignorance, or maybe they can't accept to not have any particularly good reason not to like a movie which they've judged on the basis of being bored, also "empty" is the kind of criticism that says more about the viewer than the movie, like saying "i don't know what the fuck that was about so i'm gonna assume it means nothing", while being oblivious to most or all the ways true cinema conveys meaning and expresses themes or explores concepts; and by the way if you think you're above informing yourself to properly evaluate something think again pal, that's not what art is about
@@MJGianesello Your arrogance is pathetic actually. First of all, you totally misunderstood my point. You actually took it all backwards. So it's hilarious when someone who isn't able to properly understand a very simple comment on YT tries to shame someone else on understanding movies. FYI, you're confusing provocation with subtext and/or context. Once Upon a Time is full of provocation, and I'd even say that it's done exceptionally well, especially considering the amount of it. It's quite an achievement to put that much provocation into a single film without it ever becoming a parody. That said, the movies has very little substance. What you think is substance, isn't. It's that simple. What you obviously failed to recognize in Basterds and Django and Pulp Fiction (top three QT movies in my opinion) - that's substance. Just because you saw something in Hollywood, it doesn't mean it's actually there; based on your comment here, it's probably just you reading into it and arrogantly refusing to accept it. Or maybe you're just blindly following someone else's narrative and repeating someone else's words. Even if Once Upon a Time had substance, I bet that you'd miss it. And since it doesn't (because, once again, what you think is substance, really isn't), you really have no idea what you're talking about here. I challenge you to describe any substance in the movie. Not provocation, like the semi-overt mocking of Hollywood. That's all nice and well, but that's not substance, at least not the one Tarantino used to put in his earlier, far superior movies. Also, not sensations. Yeah, cinema is an ideal medium for delivering sensations. Skilled directors like Tarantino usually deliver on that front, and this movie is no exception. So yeah, we get the feeling little Quentin had while growing up in LA in the 60s. Again, it's all well and nice, but it's not substance. And, just to be clear, a perfect example of substance is the examination slavery in Django. Slavery is explored from every possible angle in that movie: slaves' angle, slavers' angle, perspective of those in the middle, perspective of bystanders, perspective of opportunists... You name it, the movie has it. There is nothing about slavery that isn't explored in the movie. And it's all done in a thorough, well researched, extremely articulate and occasionally over the top way, which, thanks to the last element, makes it almost timeless and therefore very relevant for us today. There is nothing, literally nothing, that is explored as thoroughly and comprehensively in One Upon a Time.
@@zarmiodrag what a load of crap, what the hell do you know?But then again you think django is better because it's about slavery ahahahahaahah, so i suppose the rhetorical level is the one expected, suuuure, just go read a book pal, stop pretending to know what you're talking about, what a joke
@@MJGianesello As expected, you were unable to respond to the challenge, and once again you had nothing to say except typical 'strong' internet rhetoric. Pathetic, indeed.
Little fun fact : in real life Tex did not said " Im the devil, and im here to do the devil's Business." In real life he said " Im the devil, and im here to do the devil's work.
I think Rick going through the gates represented his death from lung cancer. He was clearly unwell throughout the whole thing. It’s all metaphorical. He went to join Sharon and her friends.
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Brad Pitt gave the most charismatic performance of the last year. He owned every scene he was in.
Agreed. His character and his dog made that movie.
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I kinda wished the Mansons would kill him
@@nm9688 you mean the character he played?
Lynette Floyd His dog actually won The Palme Dog at the Cannes Film Festival
Cliff Booth is the friend we all want and none of us deserve. Their friendship was my favorite thing in this movie.
It is the Dark Knight
Brad Pitt is the friend we all want and can't have cause we're all pussies.
People forget that six days after Tate murders, Woodstock started - an iconic four days of peace and music. Even in old Woodstock documentary footage, they zoom in on a Tate headline on the front of one of the newspapers in the town of Bethel, NY. I now wonder if the Manson murders indirectly contributed to the vibe of Woodstock. Between Vietnam and the timing of the Manson tragedy, maybe there was a greater subconscious desire than ever for peace and love....and just a world that made sense...even if just for a few days.
That said, you know it's a great movie when you are left wanting more of the characters. I am left wanting Cliff and Rick's stories to continue. Did Rick go on to work with Polanski? Did new success for Rick allow he and Cliff to stay together? Was Cliff's time as a stunt man over because of his injury?
I am also left wanting more of their back stories.
....And at the same time, I also like the idea of it being forever a mystery left to the imagination. We just get a glimpse into these guys' lives, and that's it.
I have a couple friends like Cliff, Thank God. Just as loyal and just as fearless.
Tarantino based it on a real life relationship. It's also a metaphor for how underappreciated the stuntman was at that time in Hollywood.
That dog deserves an oscar
Making her wait for her food, Cliff was kind of cruel.
Petition to have an Oscar category for best animal performance!
Well, there were three dogs so all of them deserve an Oscar
I’m glad the dog lived. I love Pitties. Oscar to the dogs for sure
@@fromthehaven94 Not cruel. He was training her. Doesn't matter if the dog is agressive or not if you bring discipline it will be much more easier for you to control him/her in unexpected situations.
"and who are you?"
"i'm the devil, and i'm here to do the devils work"
"nah it was something dumber than that, it was like... rex.... yeah rex"
"god shoot him tex"
"aaah tex right"
Good not God but I got it. Don't you just hate it when somebody corects your speling. I do. 😄
dont cry in front of the Mexicans.
It's kind of interesting that the gates open and let Rick in was seen as him being let in on the next wave of cinema, where as to me it felt like the gates of heaven/afterlife, with Sharon's disembodied voice welcoming him up. like the death of this era of hollywood movies, just like the death of this era of 60s love/peace, and they're all just chilling at Tate's house.
This makes a lot more sense to me. In showing Manson’s followers murdered in perfect “holywood style,” and then Rick being brought into the gates of Tate, Taruntino reminds us that what we have witnessed doesn’t really happen in the real world. The hero doesn’t always swoop in, guns blazing, to save the day at the last minute. In showing us the not-so glamourus parts of Hollywood celebrity life through Rick Dalton, the underlying cruelty of hippie culture through Cliff’s adventure, and “meta” moments like tate enjoying her own movie and Cliff invading old Hollywood movies Forest-Gump style, Taruntino does the reverse, showing us parts of Los Angelas life the audience rarely sees, never mind see on the big screen. The idea of old Holywood (and perhaps today’s Hollywood as well) was always a myth, this fantasy we still use to blanket the sinister truth underneath it all.
Agree. To me, this is Tarantino´s best and most mature film, and this is coming from someone who´s never been into his work that much.
That is a more interesting interpretation. I like it
I love this interpretation so much more!
Nice interpretation, i like it. It could also be tied to the promise he made of shooting himself if he went back into alcohol. He was drinking a whole jug of booze just before, maybe he did shoot himself and kept his promise and integrity to himself at the same time...
And let's not forget the fact that Leonard DiCaprio won the Oscars for getting mauled by a grizzly bear in _Revenant._ That's pretty crazy for such a great actor.
Yeah. And let's not forget that he sliced his hand with a broken glass in Django Unchained.
He won the Oscar because his performance was incredible and was the best of the year. It's not just because of the bear scene
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It was one of his lesser performances. As good as it was he should have won it for the departed.
@@GigaChadh976 I've always said he should have won for The Aviator long before that. Still one of my favourite films.
@@GigaChadh976 It was one of best. See? Opinions...
This film is one of the main examples of why I feel context matters in films. If you had no idea about the 60s,the affect the Manson Murders had and knowledge of the films of that era you won't probably enjoy it as much or understand the nuance of ending. Which I why understand the people you say they didn't like this film as much as Tarantinos others but for me personally as someone who does know about the era the movie portrays and is a huge fan of the films of that time I enjoyed it immensely and almost teared up at the ending. I don't really think it's far to say we should ignore external factors like context since all films are personal experiences so it's meant to affect everyone differently. With the case of this film it definetly benefitted from it.
This was exactly my experience. I didnt know about the murders or understand the random characters after watching the movie. Now it all makes sense and I have a much deeper appreciation for it!
Yea, I went to watch the movie but I had no clue about the history. So it confused me that this movie is an award-winning one before watching this explanation
the context is everything ...
Tarantino loves the 60's and has done it justice.
the Manson family does not make the massacre that unfortunately made them famous and that precipitates everything in a nightmare and even if you don't see it in the movie, Altamont was a second Woodstock full of peace & love .....
@@sinyitsang9598 It is amazing to me that so many people aren't familiar with the Manson story. But those of who do are getting up there and the young'uns don't know a lot of things.
@@joboykin6740 I am from Hong Kong so I guess it's not a surprise that I don't know much about US history. I love watching US movies tho
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I actually watched movies I never thought I would through their videos
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Well said.
SAME!!!
I remember seeing the movie with my dad and how happy I was to see her live (Sharon Tate ) but then as soon as the credits began and as soon as the lights turned on I felt kind of depressed because I remembered that’s not how it happened that’s not what really happened that night
Sir Arthur of Winterfell I'm really glad with the way the movie went too!!
I'm sure you at least had a laugh with the red apples commercial at the end though
YES. That is exactly the way it went for me. I also felt glad that Sharon had lived and after it was over and it had settled with me, I felt kind of a profound sadness. And that's kind of interesting because the real Sharon Tate was apparently a wonderful woman and her friends considered her a ray of sunshine. That's one reason her death and the randomness of it has been carried in our minds and hearts. It also, for me, made me consider the events in real life that may not have ever happened had Tate lived. Polanskis later arrest for sexual assault, in particular.
Me too. I was cheering Brad Pitt when he annihilated the Manson crew but after it ended truth and reality set in. I thought about how they were brutally murdered. So sad!
Sir Arthur of Winterfell I felt the exact same way!
When Tate died (it was a different time) it was unbelievable for me. Actors don't get killed or even die. Never see a real person die on TV . So younger people, who are not 72, may not will get the feel of this movie. You just can't. But I can feel the present but having history in my back pocket gives me a heads up. I really hope some day (you) reading this, see a movie that takes you back to happier and younger times. I really love this movie.
I understand what you are saying, and for me it was fantastic to see those Mansons get theirs. 😀
12:46 and now utilizing their children. Maya Hawke (Uma Thurman's daughter) is part of the Manson family and Rumer Willis (Bruce Willis's daughter) plays Joanna Pettet. Both Uma and Bruce were in Pulp Fiction by Tarantino.
Theory: Both Maya Hawke and Rumer Willis’s characters in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood are basically the sisters of Uma Thurman and Bruce Willis characters in Pulp Fiction.. hence the reason of the connection of the two movies..
I think this is the most optimistic film Tarantino has made since Jackie Brown, and I love it.
His other movies aren't optimistic? I say his only gloomy films are Reservoir Dogs and The Hateful Eight
I see Cliff Booth as the real engine of the movie and the force who was used to "change history", as QT loves to do. I saw it this way... Cliff's three primary scenes are: One, the dream sequence up on the roof (where he stands up to Bruce Lee and wrecks the supreme aura of his legend, WHILE ALSO laying eyes on Charles Manson getting out of the truck. This was foreshadowing that Cliff would wreck the evil legacy of the Manson gang in the finale). Second, his trip to the ranch. (Which I also think is a dream sequence because if you watch his hand gesture to PussyCat over the steering wheel, I think he actually waved her off and didn't pick her up once again. Hence, the Ranch scene was also a dream sequence). C'mon, everybody in the theatre was terrified that the cult zombies would take him out as that Ranch scene slowly crept along. And just like when he stood up to Bruce, he owned that entire scene and made the gang look like a pack of limp losers. Third, the finale. The acid cigarette permits entrance of this also being a dream sequence, with Cliff brutally dishing out divine justice to these murderous pigs and sparing the lives of Sharon, her baby and friends. NOW - notice that in all threes of these crucial scenes, where is Rick? He is either acting like a cowboy on set, or happily floating in the pool with his headphones on. LDC's scenes are some of his best ever - but I still contend Cliff is the main character. Cliff is changing history while Rick is acting, pretending or wishing too. And who benefits in the end? As Cliff is loaded into the Ambulance (as the savior archetype), Rick strolls up the driveway and greets pregnant Sharon and her friends. As they ascend to the mansion, an ascent purchased by Cliff's sacrifice, it looked almost symbolic of passing through the pearly gates and up into heaven - where death doesn't happen and Rick's selfish dream of no longer being a has-been are no more. All of this made possible by.......Cliff Booth.
You went a little overboard with the dream sequence thing. By doing so, you reduce a brilliant allegory to mere "wish it were" fantasy, imho.
However, you do have a good creative sense & you write well.
Ray Davison Thanks Ray. Watching the Oscars now and disappointed QT didn’t win Best Original Screenplay. Really happy for Brad! Hoping for more trophy’s tonight. But why would a dream sequence cancel out allegory? I think they fit beautifully....
my favorite was Cliff too... he was a real friend, he even said at the end, "I try to..."
@@raydavison4288 I think the dream sequence hypothesis still has merits tho. In the end, the story is historical revisionism. So by making Cliff's action only happens in his dream, it adds another layer that blurred the story (of the movie) and the actual happenstance further.
The Bounty Law sequence at the beginning foreshadows the ending :
Rick : .... "Not when there's 3 of them and 1 of me". This is what his stuntman Cliff faced, once again doing Rick's fights and stunts and his dirty work. Brilliant storytelling....
When Sharon Tate talked on the squawk box I got chills and overcome with sadness
I am a huge Leo fan, I was waiting this movie because he was starring in it, but holy shit, Brad Pitt really stole the show!!! Yes, he should take the Oscar 👍
Brad's character was awesome but leo's ACTING takes the cake
Like the meltdown scenes or when he was acting in his spaghetti western, he was great
Brad Pitt didn't have much variety in his acting performance, he basically had about 2 emotions the whole movie, he's just the cool badass guy and a great friend to rick dalton (and i'm not saying this to belittle him, his character is literally my favorite, just disagreeing with your statment about him winning an oscar for that performance)
Agreed and my fav movie in years :)
Manson was, by his own admission NOT a hippie. He was a pre-boomer ex con white supremacist who preyed on damaged young women runaways who wanted to be hippies. Now, I am quite the critic of the reckless nihilistic excess of the whole quasi hippie thing, but Manson was more Aryan nation than Tim Leary.
BTW-FYI: I am from the same area as Manson's mothers family & knew quite a few of his aunts, uncles, cousins, etc., and they were almost all lowlife drunks, thieves, & layabouts who would be meth-heads or oxy-contin addicts today. Again, FYI: Manson was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. His father's identity is unknown & his alcoholic mother once sold him for a case of beer. if I judge by his relatives, he would have probably called his father, "Uncle Daddy".
There's a lot of good people in Appalachia, but there's also a bunch of atavistic cro-magnons & Manson's relatives are of the second type.
Yeah that’s something that really throws me off about this film. Why did he decide to label all the murderers as hippies? Just because hippies are worried about the violence in his films? It’s a huge jump and I don’t think there was any skill in the connection other than the idea upsetting him greatly. Just felt like a tantrum.
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Perhaps it’s because, at the time, the presstitutes, cia, Hollywood, the powers that be etc. all referred to them as hippies?
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but the little boy who grew up to be Charles Manson never really had a chance. We'd have a lot less crime if children were cared for.
Tarantino is a weirdo lol but he makes incredible movies
He is far to overrated, especally this movie And now an OSCAR for Pitt wtf Oscars are a joke!!
Both deserved it for their own reasons. But overall it would be also Forest Gump for me .
But Brad Pitt? I do not get what was that special about this peformance. For me it feels like not Brad Pitt got the award it was the Character he played, it could be anybody who played that role.
But for me his charcter gave me no oscar vibes i would rather give Samuel Jackson an oscar for his role in Pulp Fiction.
@Migalors Darwin kinda overrating yourself, there, as a film critic. If even after seeing this video explaining the depth of his craft, you're still like, "nah", ok then.
So many feet.
@@migalorsdarwin1930 Yeah I agree, half of his movies are awesome but the other half are crap. All glorify swearing and violence which appeal to younger generations. Best way to attract new audience however.
Cliff is the "White Hat" hero... *who may or may not have killed his wife!* Is that seriously going unmentioned in the essay? Lol
It’s really not relevant.
If it was irrelevant it wouldn’t be in the film. The fact that Cliff likely killed his wife complicates his role as the “hero” and forces new interpretations-a theme which isn’t addressed in this video.
I think it was addressed but not explicitly. Nine years before in Rick and Cliff’s life, they WERE the men in the white hats in Hollywood, but now Rick is an alcoholic that plays bad guys and Cliff may or may not killed his wife. The video says the era started to focus more on morally ambiguous men, so the flaws we get to see are the crash between eras.
I saw it as a rather unfortunate reference to the death of Natalie Wood and Robert Wagner's involvement in it. The fact that Sharon was reflected in such a tender, endearing light while "Natalie" was an afterthought or a throwaway joke puzzled me.
He's a war hero.
It was fantastic, I became anxious as I recognised the horrific events that were going to happen and was completely overcome by Tarantino's ending, superbly done and thought all the actors were out of this world
In the end the "hero" Rick burns up one of the Manson girls who isn't even threatening him. It was his stunt double who did all the hard work, but the actor gets the glory.
Okay, so I seen the movie three times now, and I'm not totally sure. If this was Quentin Tarantino's intention for this and maybe I'm not understanding his words when he says that. It was a way to metaphorically Save Sharon Tate. But I also look at it this way. That I think that the movie Put Sharon Tate in a more positive light rather than just being known for the Manson Murders. But more or less as a good-hearted person a person that was an actress and she was going to have a long career. Absolutely, just sort of painting her in a positive light. Is sort of a good way of honoring her. As the way that she and her family would want her to be honored if you made it this far on this comment, thank you. I know this was pretty long.
I absolutely love this
the fact that Sharon's sister was against this movie and then changed her mind after talking with Tarantino confirms your point.
I was born on the morning of 08 August 1969. Quentin Tarantino gave me the BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVER!!! That is why this movie will always have a special place in my heart.
It's sad that Burt Reynolds (may his soul rest in peace) died during production of this movie. I would like to see him in film one last time.
Well we got to see Luke Perry in his last ever appearance.
@@thedon9670 yeah true. A lot of film stars passed away that time around.
There's also a false foreshadow at 15:20 where we see a picture of an angel behind Sharon, reinforcing the idea that she's going to die.
You're the first person I've noticed that pointed it out!
@@kevlow9494 I haven't seen any comment or video mentioning it either so I'm really not that sure it's not just a random painting.
Having read all the books about the Manson family when I was in High School a million years ago, I absolutely love the ending of this movie! This movie truly has a Hollywood ending that I wish was the real ending to the Manson saga!
I just finished watching this today, since it's on primevideo now. This was brilliant timing.
The analysis was exceptionally illuminating, especially to someone from a different country who can't feel the impact that the depicted events really had in the environment around them, it really gives me a more in depth perspective of the film.
Also Pitt was easily the best part of the film, stole the show; but the Saloon scene with Dicaprio threatening the Lancers was great too.
Damn how I wish this was how it actually played out. Thank you girls. You rock.
I have to say I haven’t always “gotten” Tarantino, but as a friend said recently “This movie was like a love letter to those of us who grew in that era.”
The death of Tate and everyone else was just a big WTF to the whole world. Even after the trial, I one could wrap their head around it. And in the most simplistic form, it was a big dose of the harsh reality that we so easily escape from in our world: goodness and purity (and beauty) don’t always win. Sometimes evil and ugly do. And in a post WWII generation, this had a big effect to the subconscious. Now we know the government is not always for the people, now we see that good does not always triumph, but after WWII, America very much had a sense of peace and prosperity that even Europe didn’t feel until a decade later. I think a modern reference would be the death of Princess Diana. The 90’s were kind of the 60’s 2.0. Everything was new fresh and exciting. But when this you g, beautiful woman with so much to live for died so senselessly, it shook people.
As someone who has seen and read as much as possible about Sharon Tate, I don’t think it is something that will ever make sense. Charles Manson did see her. He did go to that house in (June or July?) looking for Melcher. Instead of Jay Sebring, it was a photographer friend of hers who was there and as he was talking to Charles, Sharon walked up behind her friend and watched. The man has I told him to f-k off. He gave an interview years later about this. Charles did not speak to Sharon, but as he stormed off, she asked “Who was that?”. And Vincent Bugliosi had to have a “theory” to prosecute those idiots. But the reason for it all comes down to something so simple, it doesn’t match the effects of the action. Charles Manson was a psycho. He said it himself. And he wanted to hurt people. He wanted to hurt Terry Melcher for bailing on him, but mostly he was an angry man, who came from bad parents, he was treated badly by society and he wanted revenge on the world. And killing the only famous people he could get to was good enough for him. That’s all. If he could have gotten access to Jackie O, he would have killed her. He just wanted what he basically got: to shock and awe society. He got off on that. It’s as simple as that.
But, people want the reasons to be bigger than that. Someone like Sharon Tate can’t just be killed randomly. That doesn’t fit our thinking. The reasons for her death have to balance out the immense reactions to it. So people created a lot of rumors. Some still believe them.
Beatnik RN I agree with your assessment of Charles Manson, he was a loser in life, & he found companions even more lost than him, & he used them to satiate his thirst for revenge against the world he thought closed the doors to him.
I'll give the feeling a few years to simmer, but I think this will end up as my favorite Tarantino movie. Absolutely loved it.
i loved the ending, made me really sad that it didn't actually happen that way. great movie.
This was one of the better explanations of a movie that you will find. Awesome detail. Best movie of the year by a country mile. Pitt, Robbie, and DiCaprio were fantabulous to steal a word from a stupid movie. But the real star of the movie was Brandy. A special thank you to QT for altering the reality of one of the saddest days in America history in an extremely badass way. Of all of his great movies and he has made a ton of them this one is at the very top.
I really enjoyed One Upon A Time In Hollywood, full of movie and TV stars, action, comedy, nostalgia, evocative songs, etc !
Born in 1958, I was 10 when Sharon Tate was murdered and although I hadn't seen any of her movies (my father told me then she was Elly May Clampett on The Beverly Hillbillies, so he was confusing her with Donna Douglas but he wasn't far, later I found out that Tate played a minor character in an episode of that series) her death left an impression on me, as the MLK & RFK killings had the year before. So for me it was refreshing to watch Tarantino's vision of such a tragic event and his own personal justification to remake the facts in a way we all wish it had ended. Usually I don't like the kind of violence depicted in this picture but this time those bad guys really deserved what came to them.
Also, the movie is so loaded with references to the TV series I recall from that period and the actors who starred in them that I had to see it twice. Nicholas Hammond, the guy who was Peter Parker in the 70s Spiderman TV series which I was a fan of, played director Sam Wanamaker in a scene. So many of the 60s TV western actors virtually disappeared from the screen (Ty Hardin, Clint Walker, Chuck Connors, to name some) while just a few of them trascended to movie stardom (Reynolds, Eastwood, McQueen, Bronson, etc) that it made me wonder what happened to those who could not. Tarantino answered some of those questions for me. This movie was great, up to Leonardo' very funny cigarette ad during the credits (you should never ever abandon the theater when the credits start rolling, stay seated, you already payed the full price, so relax and enjoy).
Blessings from San Juan PR !!!
My favorite moment was Brad asking "Can I help you?".
Please do a video on the themes of The Wind That Shakes The Barley!
I was 9 when the Sharon Tate murders happened. My cousins, who I used to visit, read crime magazines, and they told me those murders took place up the road. Scared me half to death.
Me too. See my comment please.
Great piece. The last words, the Tarantino line and the closing comment, perfectly sums up how I felt immediately after the movie.
This movie is also a memory piece for me. I’m a little older than Tarantino, and grew up on the other end of the state, but much of this story rings true to my life. I became a character because of actors like Rick Dalton.
Can you do an analysis about the series You or Sex and the City's Samantha Jones?
I need a samantha analysis
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They did Carrie, Miranda and Mr. Big. Must have been a year ago or so. I wish, they had done Sam and Charlotte as well, though. Seems a shame, to leave the set uncompleted. Especially, since it was such a wildly popular series, with such contrasting characters.
Thanks guys. U seem to put a lotta work into this stuff. Would be cool to see more videos on older movies.
Just a little typo I noticed right away, Django Unchained was released in 2012 not 2018.
For those who’ve read about the horrors of the real story, this movie ending was such a satisfying fantasy to play out.
My "cool" Uncle drove a baby blue Karmann Ghia just like Cliff's in the 60's.
Being 7 years old in 1969 I really got this film and know just how Tarantino feels and what he was trying to do.
I lived through that time it it was very much a roller coaster from day to day. Great moments mixed with tragic or even horrifying ones.
Being the same age and having grown up on the same pop culture of the 60's and 70's I get the subtle (and no so subtle) references he makes in his movies.
This movie is elite. I find it very similar to Dazed and Confused. You feel like you go along for the ride with each of the characters in the movie. The big difference is that Tarantino picked Sharon Tate as on of those characters and brilliantly added his awesome fictional version of the Manson murders.
9:02 One of my favourite moments of them playing around with the Cliff Character is the hands free free run up the roof when the guy doing it is evidently deliberately not Brad Pitt but a stunt man.
Aspiring writer Voytek Frykowski? The guy was a drug dealer, living on Roman Polanski's couch, being an absolute slug doing nothing but mooching. He was a big reason why the Manson crew went up there that night. He was actually "aspiring" to the one of the major dealers of MDA in LA
The things you learn.
That's a rumor yes but the reason they went there is because Manson had been there before when Terry Melcher lived there.
@@Lillithowl It was both Manson and Tex Watson who had been up there multiple times. But they didn't go there simply "because Manson had been there before" .. There is alot more to that story.
Lillithowl the extended edition has a scene about that.
I thought manson assumed black people would be blamed, and he was starting a race war
Once Upon a Time was enjoyable, but given the premise, I was surprised that the movie didn't have more substance.
Same thoughts, the performances were great but the story felt empty by the ending
It’s full of substance! You just gotta do your homework
Yeah, but I think that was the point. Fairytales are for kids, who are used to sugary things with no content - something we sure as hell need in today's landscape of fear and distrust.
@@afonsolucas2219 I think he had an opportunity to really say something informative about the entertainment industry of the time or the changing society, but sorta just skimmed the surface.
@@afonsolucas2219 It isn't full of substance. Inglorious Basterds is full of substance. Pulp Fiction is full of substance. Once Upon a Time is just not, which is pretty evident if you just compare it to earlier Tarantino's movies, especially the two I mentioned. I love and respect Tarantino, but this was a misfire of a movie.
"Old Hollywood fights back, the stuntman does all the work..."
Tarantino is figuratively the stuntman.
Really great analysis. I just found your videos today - I'm loving them
I was expecting a bigger ending, like Sharon Tate being able to defend herself somehow against the cult
That would've been satisfying as all hell, but it ruins the concept of Sharon being this almost inhuman presence, a symbol of peace. As incredible as the idea of Sharon Tate and her friends killing the Mansons is, the final battle isn't truly about just being cathartic. It's almost eerie, after, when you hear Sharon's disembodied voice over the intercom and you're reminded of what really happened.
I was hoping they'd go back to the ranch and kill Charles Manson and burn the place down or something. I like to think that's what Cliff did after getting out of the hospital.
@@CameronM1138 thats what is missing for me also. i wanted to see that scene!
Sharon was heavily pregnant, you honestly think she would’ve been able to defend herself?
Thank you The Take for including 5:49!!! Casting Dicaprio and Pitt for these roles was 100% intentional.
*CORRECTION: At the beginning of the video, you show a clip from Django Unchained and the text shows it as a 2018 film. It is from 2012.
Damn, calm down Henrique
Love Brad pitt. However OMG Leo’s performance was spot on
Besides violence, Manson's "family" also distributed syphilis far and wide. It was rife among the young women and one wonders how many of them eventually succumbed to the long-term consequences of the disease.
Well, definitely Gonorrhea. Beach Boy Dennis Wilson befriended Manson and ended up paying for most of the "Families" VD treatment.
And don't miss the Christopher Jones reference when the camera pans past the 3 In The Attic theater marquee. Jones was approached by Tarentino to be in Pulp Fiction in the opening restaurant scene. Jones turned Tarentino down. So this was Quentin's way of honoring Jones memory and also saying He finally got Jones in one of His movies.
Also, Rick is invited by Sharon at the end, which means he'll meet Polanski and become a movie star like he always wanted.
prince imed he said in the beginning scene where Sharon and Roman are first driving up that he’s “one pool party away from being in a Polanski film” I noticed that too!
I took it the same way. And because Rick stays employed- I believed Cliff therefore stays employed. But my burning question is- “how big is the fight between Cliff, Rick and Rick’s wife on who keeps he dog when Rick gets out of hospital?😄”. You know that dog was babied after that night. especially when it ran into the bedroom after Cliff goes Monster Rage to watch over the wife.
No because Polanski was still in London
@@Rollimggiant ...Yeah, he came back from London. It's definitely implying that Rick and Cliff's careers flourish because Polanski and Tate get them in one of their movies.
Wow. Wildly informative, this video hardly gives you time to catch your breath. Explains your hidden desire to see the movie another fifteen times. And how the movie is a reflection of the whole Hollywood concept of making movies; plus, (bonus), what QT is all about, then and now...(clue: that last elipsis is PACKED)
In Hollywood you can write the ending anyway you want. It's all fairy tale. But, as Tarantino says, movies can't change history. The Manson family murders are just a vehicle in this film. The stuntman is the real hero in this movie and in movie making. Cliff and Rick remind me of Norton and Pitt in Fight Club. Two sides of the same person. In this Tarantino film reality was way more violent than film, but then this film doesn't reflect reality. I loved the scene, though, where Rick torched Susan Atkins in the pool. That would have been so great!
Patiently awaiting what may be the final BoJack hot Take.
It appeared.
Great video! Love your essays and how you carefully explains things! Also I hadn’t thought about the movie being about the loss of innocence of the 19060’s. Great point!
This video was a pretty decent analysis of the film, while at the same time, allowing those who have seen the movie to interpret certain facets of it in their own ways (though I think it’s possible that those initial interpretations could change - either a little or a lot - after seeing the movie several times).
Tarantino is a master storyteller, and yes, some of his films feature revised history… but unlike other directors who are known for being “revisionist” when making films that are based on actual historical events (Oliver Stone is probably the most well-known offender for this), Tarantino’s stories are accepted because he’s not trying to revise history in order to make people believe that his film’s revised events are what actually happened…
Instead, he offers an “alternate universe” in which historical events are indeed changed, but he presents these as fictional “what if” scenarios.
In “Once Upon A Time” Tarantino KNOWS that everyone knows that Sharon Tate and the others at the house on Cielo Drive that night in August of 1969 were in fact murdered, as much as he knows everyone knows that Hitler, Goebels, and other high ranking Nazi officers were not assassinated in a theater by an elite squad of US commandos, as his film “Inglorious Basterds” portrays. The difference between Oliver Stone and Quentin Tarantino, is that Stone makes fairytales and attempts to convince people that they are the actual truth…where Tarantino instead creates fiction based on actual history, and presents them as fairytales.
IMHO.
I usually hate any movie that rewrites history, but this movie made me feel happy. It was nice to imagine this different ending.
I was 10 when the Manson murders happened. It was after the MLK and RFK assassinations and I really think it did bring an end to the whole idea of the 60s that the young generation were about peace love and freedom. It was a turning point.
Amazing movie. It gets better & better upon repeated viewings.
First analysis to mention Shorty Shae and Cliff's revenge. Cliff's little "once upon a time" before Sharon's at the end. Great stuff.
Wish they would have given Steven Parent a mention in the film
The death of the American Cowboy was a genre of the time. Midnight Cowboy, Easy Rider, etc. They were all about how Hippies were the new cowboy. Personal freedom was the new "wild west" or frontier and that the cowboys of old were the villains.
to me this movie was a metaphor for the end of the 60s. things were changing. the dream was turning sour. violence and drugs were taking over. but i did love cliff. loyal,tough, and refusing to take s""t from anyone.
Tarantino is one of the most creative people who ever lived
This video was very well written and engaging from beginning to end. You have an enthusiastic new subscriber.
9:00 I've been a follower and admirer of Bruce Lee since I was 13, and while, unlike Shannon Lee, I didn't dislike the scene, but I thought the dialogue was inaccurate to how Bruce actually spoke. Michael Moh did an awesome performance, despite the material he was given.
Just my 5 cents.
Antony Drossos Yeah I see how the daughter felt it was mockery. Bruce Lee was a figure to laugh at in the film and while I understand that creative choice it felt kinda slack.
Hayley Blanch it was also from Cliff’s POV which shouldn’t be trusted 100%
@@__D10S__ Except there's nothing in the movie to suggest that the viewer shouldn't trust Cliff's POV?
I felt that this was a movie that Tarantino knew some would love and some wouldn't. So the ending was Tarantino's way of rewarding the viewer
I loved this movie. It was beautiful!
Once Upon A Time In Hollywood Is A Masterpiece Movie
I vividly remember when I watched the ending for the first time. It is described by The Take beautifully.
@3:37 not Susan Atkins. It's an actress from another film project
This movie proves that reality is a far better writer than any Hollywood
artisan.
Watching this in the theaters was the way to watch this! Took me back cause some of the structures were still around in the 80s
Thanks Quinton for turning history around to what it should've been
Really good analysis, thanks! Also, Pacino is now a full blown caricature of himself. In all the recent roles I've seen him in, it's like he's doing a parody of someone else's impression of Al Pacino acting, which is weird and kinda sad.
I can’t say it enough... I LOVE your work😀
13:13 Violence in Tarantino's movies is surreal and ironic
This movie made me so happy and Soo sad in the Same time
I really enjoy the positive spin you put onto films you analyze. I really don't like Tarantino and not a fan of his films (except Kill Bill Vol 1 ). But I try to watch his films at least once, including this one. I didn't like it, I was so bored. However, your video highlighted themes I noticed but didn't really pay attention to. I appreciate that and I might go watch this film again because of your, take.
There’s a lot of videos around Brad Pitt’s character. Who wouldn’t like his character? He’s Brad freakin Pitt! He makes every movie he’s in better
This film is the most "meditative" of all his films, which is something I don't think anyone was a) expecting from him, and b) didn't suspect he would have an interest in expressing. It is because the film is "unexpected" that it's kinda becoming a little divisive for some. I, for one, loved it all the way through. And as someone who is prone to melancholy, I get what he is saying. Personally, this one really resonates with me.
There are millions of us that imagine.... what if the killers were stopped... and that quantum shift in our culture had not occurred. ... We cannot change the past, but Quinten is not alone in pondering a 'what-if'.
On my first viewing, I must have missed a line of dialogue because I thought the hippies just made a mistake and attacked the wrong house. That history can change significantly by being off the mark by one house.
Sometimes when ya want a happy ending ya gotta make a movie.
This is one of those movies you have to watch 10 times in order to get all the hints and hidden meaning
I just saw this the other day. I think this is the best Tarantino movie ever made. It is as good as Kill Bill 1 and Reservoir Dogs.
Maybe it struck several chords with me because I just turned 50.
Oh man, I didn't know Burt Reynolds was going to be George Spahn, I wish he could have had that last role
So, call me sentimental. The thing I saw in this film was the friendship between Rick and Cliff. Rick leaned on Cliff a lot and Cliff was completely unselfish and giving. But in the end, when Rick was asked if everyone was alright he failed to acknowledge that his friend Cliff had been hurt. He said, more than once, that everyone was fine. That hurt my heart a little.
That doesn't make it right. Rick should have acknowledged him, Cliff did save his life after all. He completely threw him away to satisfy his own fantasy of meeting Sharon Tate ... completely selfish!! Do you believe Cliff really didn't want Rick to come to the hospital to check on him? If so, I think you're wrong!
That was a good essay , but Tarantinos film is like a dream of someone you've lost or has passed away. Even in the dream you know something isnt right
That was one hell of a pool party, Rick!
Loved this movie. Seen it three times already.
People who think the film has no “substance”, or whatever, weren’t paying attention.
They need something like Joker, with the director sitting next to them in the theater, yelling “GET IT? DO YOU GET IT?????!!!!!!!” In their ear.
The movie actually has very little substance - especially in comparison to other Tarantino's films. If you really think only the ignorant may dislike this movie, it's not only as arrogant as it gets, but also dead wrong. His two latest films really are empty. One may "fill in the blanks" with own research, but that's hardly the point of cinema. If a movie inspires you to research some more on its subject, then it succeeded, but if you have to fill in the blanks in order to "understand" the movie at all, then it's just a bad or empty movie. And honestly, just compare Once Upon a Time with Inglorious Basterds. Every freaking scene in the Basterds is full of substance and context, and the entire film in general is even more, to the point that it's open to different, but all very reasonable interpretations. What's to interpret in Once Upon a Time? How Quentin felt as a kid in the 60s? How does he remember the decade? That doesn't even belong in the same league as themes in Basterds. As for the supposed culture clash "examined" by the movie, I'm still to hear what does it actually say about the culture clash in question. Both sides of the said culture clash are depicted shallowly and bloodlessly. The reasons for and lines of the clash are touched only in one scene (when hippies in the car discuss the change of target), which is far from enough. Instead, there are endless scenes of Cliff feeding his dog. And don't get me wrong, I'm not angry at Quentin as some disappointed/entitled fans might be. As far as I'm concerned, he already contributed heavily to the world in general and cinema in particular, with his earlier works. But this was just an empty, insignificant and shallow movie.
@@zarmiodrag horseshit, if you don't like a movie it doesn't mean it has failed in delivering on any element, especially if you think basterds had more subtext than this, the whole story was subtext, and yes the only way someone would call this emlty is ignorance, or maybe they can't accept to not have any particularly good reason not to like a movie which they've judged on the basis of being bored, also "empty" is the kind of criticism that says more about the viewer than the movie, like saying "i don't know what the fuck that was about so i'm gonna assume it means nothing", while being oblivious to most or all the ways true cinema conveys meaning and expresses themes or explores concepts; and by the way if you think you're above informing yourself to properly evaluate something think again pal, that's not what art is about
@@MJGianesello Your arrogance is pathetic actually. First of all, you totally misunderstood my point. You actually took it all backwards. So it's hilarious when someone who isn't able to properly understand a very simple comment on YT tries to shame someone else on understanding movies. FYI, you're confusing provocation with subtext and/or context. Once Upon a Time is full of provocation, and I'd even say that it's done exceptionally well, especially considering the amount of it. It's quite an achievement to put that much provocation into a single film without it ever becoming a parody. That said, the movies has very little substance. What you think is substance, isn't. It's that simple. What you obviously failed to recognize in Basterds and Django and Pulp Fiction (top three QT movies in my opinion) - that's substance. Just because you saw something in Hollywood, it doesn't mean it's actually there; based on your comment here, it's probably just you reading into it and arrogantly refusing to accept it. Or maybe you're just blindly following someone else's narrative and repeating someone else's words. Even if Once Upon a Time had substance, I bet that you'd miss it. And since it doesn't (because, once again, what you think is substance, really isn't), you really have no idea what you're talking about here. I challenge you to describe any substance in the movie. Not provocation, like the semi-overt mocking of Hollywood. That's all nice and well, but that's not substance, at least not the one Tarantino used to put in his earlier, far superior movies. Also, not sensations. Yeah, cinema is an ideal medium for delivering sensations. Skilled directors like Tarantino usually deliver on that front, and this movie is no exception. So yeah, we get the feeling little Quentin had while growing up in LA in the 60s. Again, it's all well and nice, but it's not substance. And, just to be clear, a perfect example of substance is the examination slavery in Django. Slavery is explored from every possible angle in that movie: slaves' angle, slavers' angle, perspective of those in the middle, perspective of bystanders, perspective of opportunists... You name it, the movie has it. There is nothing about slavery that isn't explored in the movie. And it's all done in a thorough, well researched, extremely articulate and occasionally over the top way, which, thanks to the last element, makes it almost timeless and therefore very relevant for us today. There is nothing, literally nothing, that is explored as thoroughly and comprehensively in One Upon a Time.
@@zarmiodrag what a load of crap, what the hell do you know?But then again you think django is better because it's about slavery ahahahahaahah, so i suppose the rhetorical level is the one expected, suuuure, just go read a book pal, stop pretending to know what you're talking about, what a joke
@@MJGianesello As expected, you were unable to respond to the challenge, and once again you had nothing to say except typical 'strong' internet rhetoric. Pathetic, indeed.
Cliff is the White Hat - he even wears a t-shirt with 'Champion' on it !
Damn, this channel just gives away a lot of good parts of the movie.
Little fun fact : in real life Tex did not said " Im the devil, and im here to do the devil's Business." In real life he said " Im the devil, and im here to do the devil's work.
I think Rick going through the gates represented his death from lung cancer. He was clearly unwell throughout the whole thing. It’s all metaphorical. He went to join Sharon and her friends.