Gain Margin and Phase Cross over frequency

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  • @deeppatel2494
    @deeppatel2494 Рік тому +1

    Sir you have explained far better then my so called BIg GATE institute , You bring me to the easiest way to find out Gain Margin, Thank you very much, Have a nice day

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  Рік тому

      All the best... Thank you for the kind words..

  • @chaseschidfar6185
    @chaseschidfar6185 4 роки тому +7

    thank you... you're doing what my tenured professors at the university of southern california, USA cannot: TEACH.. truly helpful and amazing. i will graduate because of your videos

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  4 роки тому +4

      Chase Schidfar I am very glad it was helpful :) All the very best for your exams. Good luck.

  • @JustinDiazJokes
    @JustinDiazJokes 10 років тому +22

    YES! FINALLY! I was pulling out my hair trying to figure it out from my notes and you clarified it. Thanks a lot, you rule!

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  10 років тому +4

      Thankyou :) Glad it helped :D

  • @godsonfialor5014
    @godsonfialor5014 5 років тому +1

    Oh men, you are such a Savior. Bless🙏🙏

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  5 років тому

      Thank you. I am glad it was helpful.

  • @nikhilkashyap3725
    @nikhilkashyap3725 8 років тому +2

    I have an exam on 17th may n I watch all of ur video's for preparation sir...u r awsm sir...

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  8 років тому

      so, that's tomorrow... All the best :)

  • @abdulrashidabubakar3673
    @abdulrashidabubakar3673 5 років тому +12

    actually i'm Nigerian i like this lecture i have exam next week 10/09/2019

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  4 роки тому

      I am glad it was helpful :) All the best !

    • @sushant.__
      @sushant.__ 2 роки тому

      Also Indian University exm 😚

  • @ibrahimabdi299
    @ibrahimabdi299 Рік тому

    I watched this UA-cam video about phase margin and gain margin, but I must admit that I was a bit confused and couldn't fully understand the concepts being discussed. It's possible that the video was intended for a more advanced audience, or the presenter didn't explain the ideas in a way that's accessible to beginners like me.
    I also noticed that some people in the comments were applauding the presenter's explanation, which made me wonder if I'm missing something. However, I understand that everyone has different levels of understanding and familiarity with the topic, so it's possible that they had a better grasp of the concepts.
    If anyone has any resources or recommendations for learning about phase margin and gain margin, I would greatly appreciate it! I'm eager to learn and understand these concepts better.

    • @kwgm8578
      @kwgm8578 Рік тому

      @ibrahimabdi -- this is 8 year old video, not likely to get an answer from the TA who has no doubt, found a paying job! These are concepts from a Control Theory class, (call it CT), which Electrical Engineering students must study as a junior or senior in their undergraduate training.
      The idea of CT is to move a complex system described by differential equations, out of the time domain, into an imaginary domain -- the frequency domain -- via a Laplace Transform. Or, if you wish to work with a discrete domain, the Z Transform.
      My point in supplying these details is to demonstrate that it requires advanced math training to get the big picture of CT.
      I wish you the best of luck with your education.

  • @pritamsardar3852
    @pritamsardar3852 10 років тому +1

    YAY!! THANKS A LOT, have been looking for the step by step procedure for this and now I know it. Thanks again MAN... Keep posting :) Would like to know this step by step process for PHASE MARGIN too :)

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  9 років тому +4

      Welcome :) Will do on phase margin soon :)

    • @nafiskhan1068
      @nafiskhan1068 9 років тому

      Chinmaya A.S.V when will u give for phase ?

  • @dhruvgajera1176
    @dhruvgajera1176 3 роки тому

    You make very easy topic now thanks 👍

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  3 роки тому

      Most welcome :)... It is very kind of you to say so..

  • @wilsonmandie8786
    @wilsonmandie8786 7 років тому +1

    A legend among men. thank you

  • @THe_PRofessoR-45
    @THe_PRofessoR-45 6 років тому +2

    Thank you sir
    You cleared my all doubts about this topic.

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 років тому

      Glad it was helpful :) Thanks!

  • @nishantnilekar6749
    @nishantnilekar6749 6 років тому +3

    explanation is good
    but you should keep the camera stable as it is creating disturbance in understanding

  • @ohsnapigetit4631
    @ohsnapigetit4631 2 роки тому

    Brilliant, but let the audience know that k = 1 so it is K/1/Kg then -20log(answer) in Db ..many thanks!

  • @Dorabuji24
    @Dorabuji24 4 місяці тому

    Very simple explanation sir thank you very much sirr 😊

  • @aliawied2713
    @aliawied2713 3 роки тому

    Thanks Man , Very good Explination

  • @saadtigani1272
    @saadtigani1272 10 років тому +1

    Excellent Work. But, do you have video to show how to find phase margin without plotting?

  • @orthienewry7863
    @orthienewry7863 11 місяців тому

    Very helpful, thank you! How will I use this to find the phase margin?

  • @swaroopteja5088
    @swaroopteja5088 9 років тому +3

    simply superb sir

  • @stevenalexanderbaird
    @stevenalexanderbaird 8 років тому +17

    What would you do if the number on the top wasn't 1 though? This is where I am stuck

    • @stankina1
      @stankina1 6 років тому +2

      why not re express it as a fraction in the denominator? Say it was a 2, just put 2/4 in the denominator and multiply through

    • @gulafshankhan8033
      @gulafshankhan8033 4 роки тому

      No he means if in numerator (s+1) exists

    • @resulucar1706
      @resulucar1706 4 роки тому +2

      multiply with complex conjugate both num. and denum. . Then equate imaginary part of numerator to zero.

  • @martin336able
    @martin336able 9 років тому +3

    how about any other transfer function with numerator ? E.G. k(s + 1)

  • @kiraz365
    @kiraz365 4 роки тому

    thank you so much :)) greetings from turkey :)

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  4 роки тому

      I am glad it was helpful :) Greetings to you too ! All the best !

  • @lolPirate
    @lolPirate 9 років тому +18

    For separating the real and imaginary part, don't we have to rationalize the fraction?

    • @Jnglfvr
      @Jnglfvr 3 роки тому +1

      Yes but the result is the same. Multiply both numerator and denominator by the complex conjugate of the denominator and then setting the imaginary part of the resultant numerator to zero you get the same formula.

  • @OswaldChisala
    @OswaldChisala 8 років тому +5

    lol when he used the calculator to determine 1/sqrt(2) and its output was sqrt(2)/2. All the same, good presentation! :)

  • @funcrafts137
    @funcrafts137 6 років тому

    you are awesome..it just cleared my every doubt

  • @arifahliyana7867
    @arifahliyana7867 Рік тому

    i love your video! but how to find phase margin for this question?

  • @kebehboris566
    @kebehboris566 3 роки тому

    Thanks very much bro..... what if the numerator is not one?

  • @censorthecarnage
    @censorthecarnage 8 років тому +17

    Do it for phase margin and gain crossover frequency please.

    • @omarsinno2774
      @omarsinno2774 5 років тому

      hello did you find one for the phase margin?

    • @UnknownDistraction
      @UnknownDistraction 5 років тому +1

      @@omarsinno2774 yes i did, do you need link?

    • @nikitakale9324
      @nikitakale9324 5 років тому +1

      @@UnknownDistraction yes please

    • @mihaiphelps5035
      @mihaiphelps5035 4 роки тому

      @@UnknownDistraction could you please post the link? Would be of great help!

  • @ablemicky9923
    @ablemicky9923 2 роки тому

    You are doing a great job sir how do we find bandwidth and DC gain of a simpler transfer function..thanks in advance

  • @sanhitaguin9683
    @sanhitaguin9683 9 років тому +22

    shouldn't the imaginary part be obtained by multiplying the denominator and numerator by the conjugate of the denominator? because we can't separate fraction in two fractions, one the imaginary and the other the real part, till the denominator isn't expressed in factorised form and the numerator is an algebraic sum of real and imaginary part

    • @F1TracksideTales
      @F1TracksideTales 7 років тому

      Sanhita Guin it's also correct to do that, try different examples you will see it

    • @shubhamkaushik5906
      @shubhamkaushik5906 5 років тому

      Yes, but it wouldn't matter mathematically after rationalization. Same answer both ways.

  • @himanshusolanki4660
    @himanshusolanki4660 9 років тому

    it is very helpfull thank you chinmaya

  • @ManakKaushik
    @ManakKaushik 8 років тому +2

    for gain margin there will be a negation before 20log(kg) formula.

    • @resulucar1706
      @resulucar1706 4 роки тому

      that is up to how do you define kg. here is kg = 1/|L(jw)|. if kg = |L(jw)| then you need minus.

  • @kendoledeepika9163
    @kendoledeepika9163 4 роки тому

    Sir could u please find for same problem phase margin and Gian cross over frequency

  • @nitishroat
    @nitishroat 5 років тому +1

    Can i draw bode plot on normal graph if log graph is not given in exam?? But how??

  • @thugonomicsstark7238
    @thugonomicsstark7238 9 років тому +1

    hey sir, i really like your way of explanation, i'm just confused about one thing, is the crossover phase frequency the same as the phase margin? if not, pls tell me how to get the latter and thnx

  • @Benziism
    @Benziism 8 років тому +1

    Your videos are amaaaaaazing! Very helpful. Thanks! I am a student of Murray State University, KY and I have an exam on 30th of May. Can you please upload a video on lead compensators and lag compensators via root locus? It'll be great!

    • @dhonipspk2423
      @dhonipspk2423 5 років тому +2

      Please help me....now I am 3 rd year student...I guess u got passed out from b.tech

    • @Maybe.019
      @Maybe.019 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@dhonipspk2423
      Did u find any helpful videos
      My exam is in 24h

  • @mareysaad6597
    @mareysaad6597 3 роки тому

    Absolutely impressive 💓💓

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  3 роки тому

      Thank you :) I am glad it was helpful !!!

  • @zamokuhlekunene9261
    @zamokuhlekunene9261 3 роки тому

    is the phase crossover frequency the same thing as the gain crossover frequency?

  • @samul7531
    @samul7531 Рік тому

    how do you do it when you have a zero in the function?

  • @MrBluestar100000
    @MrBluestar100000 9 років тому +3

    Just one query: For Phase crossover frequency, you said to equate the Im[G(jw)]=0. But actually you equated the imaginary part of the denominator of G(jw) to 0, i.e, without rationalizing G(jw). So, please clarify you mean to equate the denominator only or the whole rationalized transfer function.

    • @sagarikanangia507
      @sagarikanangia507 8 років тому

      the intersection with real axis needs to be found out,so whole imaginay part needs to be equated to zero

  • @shivensingh4602
    @shivensingh4602 7 років тому

    please upload video on phase margin also

  • @coolkrishna96
    @coolkrishna96 8 років тому +1

    thnk u sir....helped a lot.... :)

  • @pubg-eb4lm
    @pubg-eb4lm 4 роки тому +1

    Is it phase cross over frequency or gain margin. That he is finding out

    • @pubg-eb4lm
      @pubg-eb4lm 4 роки тому +1

      I don't know man 🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @SuperAshwiniatyoutub
    @SuperAshwiniatyoutub 9 років тому

    Thankyou so much :) it really helped ,can u please upload how to find phase margin as well

  • @subhambose2151
    @subhambose2151 9 років тому

    how to find out phase margin and gain cross over frequency without plotting bode plot??

  • @Chiragsmitfiji
    @Chiragsmitfiji 7 років тому

    It's unreal explaination. I am very much impressed with your provided solutions. Could you please help me resolving following transfer function :
    1/s(s+1000)2 . Find GM. where gain coefficient K : 630 x 10 power 6.

  • @rahulbhati4749
    @rahulbhati4749 6 років тому +1

    sirr plss upload video on niquist plot

  • @jeromepedro5486
    @jeromepedro5486 9 років тому

    How can i get the phase margin? Thank you

  • @chandangupta1400
    @chandangupta1400 8 років тому

    Thanks a lot for this video......

  • @chamanthswarup6596
    @chamanthswarup6596 7 років тому +3

    how about estimating phase margin with given transfer function??
    can u pls post a video on that too.

  • @brightselection6704
    @brightselection6704 6 років тому +2

    i like your video

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 років тому +1

      Thank you...Hope it was helpful :)

  • @shubhamsahu425
    @shubhamsahu425 8 років тому

    Sir what to do when there is not 1 in numerator???

  • @TheFifilak
    @TheFifilak 5 років тому

    For the phase cross over frequency, why is it required to have imaginary part of the transfer function equal to 0?

  • @artemisc749
    @artemisc749 7 років тому

    hi, i want to know how to find the gain margin for time delay? do we have to apply euler rule

  • @arjunus3660
    @arjunus3660 5 років тому

    How Phase margin calculate

  • @nishantkatkar6117
    @nishantkatkar6117 7 років тому

    @6.45 while calculating gain margin you have not considered the imaginary part by saying it is zero.. Can you please explain it..

  • @rezaultutul4596
    @rezaultutul4596 9 років тому

    can you give me idea about to find phase margin from TF?

  • @nursyazanizaid9329
    @nursyazanizaid9329 5 років тому

    Can you do phase margin please

  • @eduardoteich5892
    @eduardoteich5892 Місяць тому

    Excelent!! Thank you

  • @nikhilkashyap3725
    @nikhilkashyap3725 8 років тому

    please add Nyquist plot ...

  • @CromwellCreaTEGY
    @CromwellCreaTEGY 2 роки тому

    Nice video, nice english

  • @MoAlfaraj
    @MoAlfaraj 9 років тому +3

    WOW! THANK YOU SIR

  • @KhadijaAlshemeili
    @KhadijaAlshemeili 2 роки тому

    THANK YOU KKINGGGG💕🛰

  • @JasonXavier-rk6kl
    @JasonXavier-rk6kl 3 роки тому

    Can Wpc be zero??

  • @parijeeikram2689
    @parijeeikram2689 8 років тому

    sir upload phase margin video nd one thing more when cross over frequency is 0,then gain margin will be?

  • @komalgaikwad5277
    @komalgaikwad5277 5 років тому +1

    Hellll...i am not getting why in finding phase cross over frequency we need to take imaginary part as zero...some1 plz ans

    • @rima_shaw
      @rima_shaw 5 років тому

      Bcz for finding the value of GM we need help"wpc" w=wpc(phase crossover freq).
      Here we take imaginary part of G(s) H(s)=0

  • @Prabhasfan_girl
    @Prabhasfan_girl Рік тому

    Explain slow sir and tell clarity its very understand sir

  • @joydeep2504
    @joydeep2504 6 років тому

    Can't we take w^3=1?

  • @njieenowjonathan976
    @njieenowjonathan976 Рік тому +1

    Cool but u didnt calculate phase margin

  • @touseefkhan8098
    @touseefkhan8098 7 років тому

    THANKS A LOT SIR....

  • @balajiavbmd4893
    @balajiavbmd4893 2 роки тому

    Wat happens if imaginary term comes in numerator also..

  • @subhisubhi9939
    @subhisubhi9939 2 роки тому

    God bless you

  • @abdulrashidabubakar3673
    @abdulrashidabubakar3673 5 років тому

    thank you sir

  • @resulucar1706
    @resulucar1706 4 роки тому

    TF must be L(s) = G(s)*H(s) loop TF where H(s) =1.

  • @reemm.hussein1369
    @reemm.hussein1369 9 років тому

    awesoooome man thanx alot but i also need the phase Margin if you dont mind
    .....^-^

  • @stenio423
    @stenio423 8 років тому

    thank you!! very much!!!

  • @KJP_DS
    @KJP_DS 8 років тому

    grt vedio sir

  • @karthickredroseredrose3408
    @karthickredroseredrose3408 7 років тому

    Help full to me bro

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      @mbou5179 6 років тому

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  • @relaxedlife5798
    @relaxedlife5798 8 років тому

    thanks for clearance....

  • @swatimishra7929
    @swatimishra7929 6 років тому

    Thankyou sir..

  • @Mr8Carlos8
    @Mr8Carlos8 7 років тому

    Thanks dude!

  • @raidheeraj
    @raidheeraj 8 років тому

    Thanks Sir !

  • @jeevanchavan8047
    @jeevanchavan8047 6 років тому

    Wpc. Y u took IMG part 0

  • @confidencemichaelokojaja7669
    @confidencemichaelokojaja7669 4 роки тому

    Why was the function not rationalized before making calculations?🙄

  • @drewgraham1482
    @drewgraham1482 6 років тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  6 років тому

      Glad it was helpful :) Thanks!

  • @furkanbayram8561
    @furkanbayram8561 5 років тому

    Wg ?

  • @neerajjaiswal9392
    @neerajjaiswal9392 10 років тому +1

    thanks .

  • @kausalyabaissonale4804
    @kausalyabaissonale4804 8 років тому

    It was a good video :)!!!

  • @Lucky-gogogo
    @Lucky-gogogo 8 років тому

    very good

  • @319SRA
    @319SRA 7 років тому

    sir where is phase margin

  • @senthilsaraswathi9604
    @senthilsaraswathi9604 4 роки тому

    can someone tell me how do we find phase crossover frequency from this: -3.14= inv tan (-0.5w)-0.1w

    • @nadukontnt2583
      @nadukontnt2583 Рік тому

      im suffering from this aswelllllllllllllllll

  • @Sawsan8822
    @Sawsan8822 9 років тому

    What if the gain margin is zero ?

    • @resulucar1706
      @resulucar1706 4 роки тому

      That means nyquist plot crosses negative real axis of L(s) at (-1,j0). Then the system is unstable after 1.

  • @09vav
    @09vav 9 років тому

    Thankyou Sir

  • @allawijld5423
    @allawijld5423 Рік тому

    You didn't find the phase margin and the gain cross over freq.

  • @AlienAI23
    @AlienAI23 5 років тому

    conjugate multiplication!

  • @dranzerkai5654
    @dranzerkai5654 7 років тому +2

    4:07 Kanye in the house :P

  • @avishekdas1115
    @avishekdas1115 6 років тому

    Thanks buddy

    • @ChinmayaASV
      @ChinmayaASV  5 років тому

      Thanks. I am glad it was helpful !

  • @emirbulic1465
    @emirbulic1465 7 років тому +2

    you can't take imaginary part like that that's not right i think
    you can't separate fraction by separating the denominator

  • @shotsonearth
    @shotsonearth 9 років тому

    Grt ! onee Thank you !! :)

  • @tuhinkumarbarui8257
    @tuhinkumarbarui8257 7 років тому

    superbbbbb...

  • @limenihmuluneh5662
    @limenihmuluneh5662 8 років тому

    tanks more....