How to Lay Down a Horse: For Wild, Aggressive or "Un-trainable" Horses (NOT a trick training video)
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- This is NOT a trick-training video. This is a video showing a method of how to lay down a horse that is typically described as wild, un-trainable, aggressive, etc. PLEASE listen to the dialogue at the beginning before you jump to the action in the video, and always consult a professional trainer before you attempt something like this.
Please use caution when attempting to lay down a horse--this video is meant as a tool for you to use, but we take no responsibility for your own actions! Always be prepared for the worst and exercise safety ALWAYS. Thanks, -Double 6 Ranch
This video is not to be used for any reason without written consent.
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I wish you kept making horse training videos, you would be #1 on YT.
You’re one of the only trainers I’ve seen so this in the correct way while explaining what you’re doing and why so perfectly. Great job!
MAKE TRAINING VIDEOS AGAIN…. PLEASE!?
I have laid down many horses in my career for many reasons, definitely helps horses with respect and trust issues. I thought you handled yourself well, was very informative and had the technic down pat. There are always going to be haters don’t let that stop you from what you’re doing. You did a first class job 👍.
Coming from someone who has spent a lifetime with horses.
this by far is one of the best/safest vids I've seen for laying a horse down... Thanks for sharing this
My biggest suggestion would be to watch the video a few times....and adjust as necessary for your horse.
I actually really enjoyed this video. If those of you who are posting mean and rude comments actually understand pressure and how to use it correctly, you would see that this gentleman is doing everything correctly. There are a lot of methods in the horse world that can be considered cruel from the outside world, or those people who are uneducated, such as yourselves, about how to use pressure and understand the body language of the horse. Educate yourself before you speak rashly. I really enjoyed how calm he was the entire time, and how he was very safe from beginning to end. This isn't just a random cowboy, this is an experienced trainer offering some ideas.
Thanks for your patience, your were gentle and this video will help me to work with a horse that needs to lay down due to anatomical problems.. Time and patience,.. great teachers to both of us.
Thank you for this video. I have a little welsh X mare who was rescued and is very aggressive. 3 years later and a whole lot of kindness and patience, she's not made any improvement. As a last resort I heard about laying down a horse. I followed your video and got the pony to lay down. She almost went into a comatose state, very relaxed, closed eyes and occassional lifting of her head to graze a bit of grass. It was an experience we both needed in order to move forward. Thank you.
You did a wonderful job training this horse to lay down. Nice job at keeping her calm and relaxed! I worked on laying down with my gelding last fall and never really got anywhere. Didn't try very hard, but I'm going to try to have him trained by the end of this fall to lay. Thank you for a very well demonstrated video(:
I watched this just today and I thought you did awesome with the mare. It was awesome! We own two colts and a nineteen yr. old mare. We started the process with one of our colts, because he is a little aggressive, not much. But we started with just picking up his front hoof and releasing it. I love your technique and we will keep working on it. Thank You and Great Job.
he almost brokeher fuking leg stupid bitch
very well done the way to talk to her and treat her is what I want to see we need more of this from you
I love the patience you have with the horse. Great job. Definitely can tell you know what your doing. Great job.
Thankyou Ty! Not only are you a fantastic horseman, but sensitive and patient aswell. Lets hope people listen first to what you're saying before attempting to do it themselves. Keep up the great work - this is one Aussie who takes their hat off to you! Cheers
far out the most relaxed video of laying down a horse with ropes ever. super!
Watched this today, thank you for making such an informative video on how to lay a horse down. I used your process on my 3yo stud colt that was having some authority issues. It went very smoothly and he stayed relaxed through the process. Thank you!!
Did it help him deal with life better?
this guy is good . thank you. You explained it well. Lots of people don't understand horsemanship... This is what you do when you want a horse as a working animal and is expected to be obedient.... it needs to submit.... animals are livestock first and for most... we can work them out easily..... he is giving us a method to help us as a last resort if the animal is difficult..... so it can survive .... in society...... what do you do when a horse becomes a problem......lay it down... it submits.... then the rest is u to you.... :)
I am very impressed with your approach, and also with all the warnings and caution you express. As you say, there are so many things that can go haywire with this type of action. Over the years of training, I and my farrier friend have laid down three. All three went well and made a difference for the horse. We did not use a saddle. These animals are so powerful and when they feel threatened or under attack, it can go badly for them and anyone standing nearby. So, thank you for your humane and sane approach to this topic.
Ty; It's a pretty nice video.I liked it.I've done it for close to 40 years.I think you showed it well and tried to explain it to the inexperienced horse people.Good Job!
The people complaining don't even understand WHY you lay a BAD horse down.It is evident that they have not ever had any broncs to start that will paw,bite,cow kick and try to eat you up or run you out of the round pen.
As we breed better horses these days the round pens have changed some.Yours is tall enough & I know it is hot where you are by looking at the land behind you.But I believe I'd have another board in between your top two spaces to keep those bad ones from trying to jump through it.That's just my two cents on it.But I'm not being critical.It's your pen and you may not get those bad ones any more.I hope not any way.Good Video and keep it up.
To all that state that this method is not natural, and barbaric... Please listen to the dialog at the start at the video.. This is only for the difficult, and dangerous horse.. After this method was conducted on this horse, she turned out to be a great mount for her owner.. Full of trust, and love...
Thanks for making this video Ty by far one of the best ways to ask your horse to lay down. Some great advice particularly for those who need to use this type of technique for the benefit of the horse. You have a great way with horses that would be great to see more people like you and your approach. Kindest Regards
I thought this was an awesome way to teach a horse to lay down! I tried other tricks but none of them worked, but I thought this was great!!! I'm going to try this on my horse soon! You were so clear and knew what you were talking about! You didn't stress out the horse or anything!! Cudos!
You have a very good technic.A lot of people think it's bad but it's great.it learns the horse to trust its sense and be able to lie down with the horse and soon be used to lying down and will trust you.
Thank you for understanding the video....
Great Video, even more so is this gentlemans manner of teaching, not just the horse but the people watching this video! Great calm speaking with a humble mannerism. Saving this video & following. I am a Mustang rider myself and training one right now, I like the lack of aggression or ego in this safe handling of this horse. Thanks.
This really is an excellent video. Thank you very much. Unfortunately I have one mare that I might have to lay down. I hope I do not have to go that far but if I must your video will be a great help. Thank you.
very educational ! he was very gentle with her , i need to do this to my mare i raised and trained .
That's was brilliantly done. I spent many years with a Gaucho who occasionally had to lay a horse down because of aggressive behaviour. To do it you really do need a very high degree of skill and ability and I would 100% agree with all of the personal safety aspects and techniques. I've seen a number of aggressive horses helped by very similar methods. If you don't know or understand the significance of what you are doing ... get an expert. Don't forget.. not every aggressive horse can be turned round..
You presented the video in a very good way, one thing you did not mention is when prey animals are taken down by a preditor/or human, there is a reflex to stop them from experiencincing fear and pain (from preditorial attack). Your video does not qualtify the horse being aggressive (I'm Ok with that, but the horse doe appear to be tranquilized) even still, you did a good job w/video, I'd be interested to know who you have trained with and provide info. Laying a horse down can break through to some or merely cause them to become catatonic and when they do wake up...watch out.
I trained for many years at the track and was always a little "ouuta the box". I cross trained off track with some and had some "half psychos" my horses ran well and they were physically well cared for...some/many neeeded to be in "other jobs" pleased to say I moved many on early "even before they were tried" I love my TB's and and OTTB's....they are not for everyone.
They are bred to be sensitive, honest, and giving...(not to the point of all giving)
currently retired from race training...mostly light and classical dressage now.
Excellent video-I appreciate the fact that you have your warning and worrying though out the whole video-and you are continuing tell people to not try this unless the situation proves it needs to be done-the negative comments are from people who don't know better-don 't own horses or just don't have a life-thank you for your patience and knowledge on how to do this properly
You really respected the horse and she did not look like she was in any discomfort. You took it nice and slow. Very good video.
What a great video! I have seen horses laid down numerous ways, but this by far is the safest!
Thank you for the recognition. And your great Uncle seemed to be a great horse person.
This man quite obviously loves horses and is ONLY looking out for the horses best interests. What most folks don't stop to realize is that a horse can do a lot of damage to themselves and to the handler if proper horse handling isn't practiced, and Ty is giving an example of expert horse handling to reduce risk of injury and gain the confidence and trust of this animal.
What an AMAZING Video. VERY well Explained. I LOVE that safety for you AND the horse is your number one concern. I Want to try this with my horse. He is VERY wiling to learn. We have Bowing down. I will DEF. try your technique. Hopefully I will have as much success as you do. Thank you for such an educational video. I also notice you do NOT use treats. I am MORE impressed :)
Hi DanD for the record I have had horses my whole life and I currently own 12. I also rescue horses and train horses and I don't follow 'trends'. Also watch the movie My Friend Flicka from the 60s, the father talked about ideas of natural horsemanship, its been a round for a long time. Take a look at the likes & dislikes in this video, a lot of people dislike it. I agree that the technique being used is correct, I just don't agree that you need to do this to an aggressive horse.
It sounds like your on the right track. Just keep at it, and have patience and you will succeed.
This is a great video, this is a very soft and kind approach to this. Thanks for the instruction!
fab, really good lesson, my mare is kinda passive aggressive , i think this will be a good way to get her to trust me. she was very good years ago with no issues with county level wins all over the uk, then i put her on loan, and she has come back with man made problems. best instructive video on youtube thank you.
You don't need any ropes to lay down a horse. And it can be a friendly and loving act. It does not have to be an issue of submission, it has to be an issue of friendly coercion. If your horse is fighting you you are doing something very wrong.
Koodos to you on this video. You did a great job and knowing to only try 10 min at a time what great info for you to give. I will try this way of laying one down over all the other methods that I have seen. Where are you located?
Congratulations on your success with your mare... This method of laying a horse down when done right, is an amazing aid in training...
I can't believe how stupid some people can be. This guy ay be using ropes but would you rather have the horse out killing people? I am a person who likes to do natural horsemanship, but at times my horse will try to bit and also will try to buck on me. There is times where you need to step up a bit and show them that it's not okay to hurt you but you need to show them respect as well.
My horses never tried to hurt me and I never try to hurt them. I train them myself with no bits and no heavy saddles. Hoses don't kill people. Is ignorance that kills people. I make my horses lay down without ropes. It's actually easier and safer!
Janise Gaudette do a vid pls I would love a non rope way
Love the video :) I taught my horse a bit differently with the help of my friend (she is experienced), my horse is a Brumby. I am teaching laying down as a trick, but most of all it was to gain trust of my horse. We used all soft ropes also.
But my main question is, while she was laying down proper and you patted her down, why didn't you take the hobble off while she was there? I noticed it got her leg caught as she stood up. With my girl, we took the hobble off so she got up with not restraints whatsoever on her foot, so it was a comfortable experience instead of extra stress involved with getting up in case her leg got caught.
They way you teach this horse is really good, I'm only curious about the leaving the hobble on lol
+ShadowProductions24 I'm happy to read of your progress with your horse,,,. And to answer your question, i leave the hobble attached when the mare is getting up, to further desensitize her... And if you leave the hobble rope loose, its next to impossible for the horse to get tangled in..
thanks :) and oh okay, i was only wondering cause she tripped forward a little cause the rope was still a bit taught :)
Sadly, her prior aggressiveness wasn't caught on film. She was not a worst case scenario--she was manageable enough that she could be used for a demonstration video where Ty could talk to the video camera and work with her at the same time without losing too much focus.
Good video showing the horse actually putting up a fight. I hate the staged videos where the horse so nicely obeys and goes right down. My horse is much more rank than even this horse and much smarter. I tried it the same way as Clinton Anderson and he figured out real fast how to spin right out of it. I think the rope placement in this video is a bit better, but the horse standing still with the leg up shows less fight already than mine. I can hold his leg in the pasture like this no problem, but the minute to go to do it in the arena he KNOWS something is up! And FWIW, I have NO trainers willing to travel and no horse trailer to cart him off in. This is completely a last resort for him after 3 long years of painfully slow progress. He's an angel when he wants to be, but a hellion when he doesn't!
Thank you for your confidence, and i wish you the best too..
I am a professional jump rider and think you did a great job! Surprised to see so many dislikes?? Thanks for the ongoing caution...I also thought you have a great feel for how and when to let go of the pressure :)
Fabulous video. Glad to hear the warnings and advice to use professional trainer, as this is not a tool suitable for novices. An excellent explanation and demonstration. Calm and relaxed, just as it should be! Nice one cholan1972 (sorry, don't know your name)
I understand with you intent. Which agree with. But my point is how do you hobble or tie down to keep him down with out getting hurt. Even the most gentle horse may come un-glued after being put down. And I must say that your methods are outstanding.
One of the best demonstrations I've seen with all the precautions emphasized. Thanks for a great video!
Im physically not strong enough to resist the pressure of the horses leg to keep it up, what do i do instead
Lots of great information! Never realized how many dumb things people try with this. ..
You might want to check the horses girth area for tender spots, or the withers for displacement, these are two main causes in horses displaying this behavior. Usually a Chiropractor could fix this issue..
We are currently working on a how to video on "Rearing Horses".. We hope to have it up pretty soon....
@TalkShytGehhHit This is not a trick-training video...if you watch some of the other videos posted, you will see thetrick horses...again, this video is meant for aggresive or behavioral problems in horses.
Thank you for replying. I do not plan on doing any tricks with Shadow so no worries. xD And I will try doing what you said with him. =)
People don't realize how damaging a bit could be in the mouth of the horse when used in this method.. I've seen big name trainers use bits to lay horses down, i cringe each time i see that.. And thank you for your comment...
@imhowlingatthemoon, this method is used for horses with certain behavioral issues, not as a form of trick training. To TEACH a horse to lay down is very different--this method is a way of teaching a horse to be a more willing follower as you become a better leader.
It's to demonstrate the right way to lay a horse down that displays aggressive behaviors.. It's actually quite safe when done like this..
Thank you, and i'm truly humbled by your comment..
Thank you very much!
I'm just curious as to what your opinion is about laying a horse down for tricks? Because you kept saying only do it if there is a reason behind it. =) Oh I also have another question. What do you do if a horse pulls you while your leading it? Like, I will be leading Shadow and he will walk faster. And no matter how much I try to hold him back he keeps pulling.
So helpful!! Thank you so much!
Will doing this once really help or should I expect to have to do it several times right out of the gate?
I believe in Argentina, they some times use the Bit to lay the horse down.. That hurts the horse more in my opinion. I've been to Patagonia, in Argentina.. I've ridden with Gaucho's out there... I believe the use of the Rope in this Video is sane and safe..
There are many ways to address this issue, the best i can state in general is to win the confidence of your horse...
This video was made to teach people, that if you decide to do this, then in my opinion this is the safest way to do this.. There is clarity in my opening statement, i believe..
This video is intended for the horse with aggressive behaviors. And as for holding a horse down to give medical aid? There are different ways of attaining that, be it tranquilizer, or hobbling all feet to secure them from doing harm, Etc.. But in this video, the horse stays down by their own will, it's an act of submission.
@ 3:17 - Your rope halter is to high on the horse's face and you didn't tie it correctly...
this was very helpful. very good instruction, the best i have seen. thank you
I just bought an 11 year old mare that was 250 lbs underweight. Because of this I did not test ride her. The woman assured me that she had been rode in the past. Now that she is up to weight I decided to do a little round pin work with her and it almost cost me my life. She became highly aggressive. Rearing up and walking on her hind legs pawing and trying to hit me. She turns to kick. She charges and bites. I had to climb the fence to avoid getting trampled. I had a trainer that I know and
Please take a look at Paul ENDO's videos on laying down. He doesn't use a rope on the horse at all. I would like to know what you think.
janet turgetto Paul Endo is a very talented trainer, but in comaprison to my method, Paul uses a leverage bit to lay the horse down. Picture if you may, using the bit to break the horse at the poll, and then changing the angle to basically cut of oxygen , so in a retro sense, he makes the horse pass out... I rather use a rope, its safer for the horse.
hey i have a cob a head stong cob lol but do u think i could do this with him because hes really strong?
Great video.. I just have a few questions. My horse is very food motivate, would you suggest giving the horse treats when they are lying down?
Lessons are free at my Ranch : ) and we are located in Apple Valley, Ca..
The "tugging" is just asking the horse to lay down. If you look closely, it is just repeated gentle pulling to let the horse know what he wants it to do.
So. the next video after yours, the gal uses a saddle to lay the mustang down..... I guess she should have watched your video first :) Good job.
Plus he is not forcing the horse, as you can see, he clearly says every time the mare fights her way out he'll just give her the slack. He is just communicating the information without stressing out the mare. To be honest the guy is pretty sensitive to the mare.
And to speak Parelli language he did use friendly game and porcupine game.
This method is for Horses that displaying behaviors which are not safe, so the first part of working with the horse, is to establish leadership. The Halter is there for the safety of the handler and horse.. If the Horse were to fall over backwards, the handler could yank or pull on the Halter and prevent injury to the horse.. And i rather be yanked with a halter than a Bit... No pun intended...
Nice work! I have to medicate my gelding's eye every hour for the next few days. This might be the only way I can do it by myself. If you don't think I should lay him down to do it, then please let me know.
If this method is the only way to get your horse medicated.. it would not hurt to try... Wish you luck..
put him in the crossties and use a one-man twitch.
i try it on my horse and pony i cant get them to lay down or bow
and is this the first time that mare has done that?
Actually the pack dynamic of 'pinning' and 'rolling' dogs was dis proven, as with horses. Holding them down forcefully does not teach them to trust or respect you, but to fear you and possibly fight you. If a horse listens to you because you pin them it's because you're making them give up on life. A shut down horse or dog is a sad thing to see. Plenty of trainers show that through gaining trust and clear communication you can get them to listen to you, stop fighting, and not 'come undone' or 'attack out of no where' is rebellion against oppression that is too much.
Laying a horse down for medical purposes is sometimes necessary and this may be good for that, but NOT as discipline. Teaching them to lie down without ropes is better, as well as a behavior/trick you can tell them to do rather than force when they get pushy to distract them.
Factually incorrect>> The Dynamic was never disproven... And the art of laying a horse down, is not for trust, but an act of submission, as i stated early in the video... I also stated this is not for every horse, only ones that are overly aggresive. Next time you come across a refactory stallion who is ready to take your head off, try out other methods that you know, and let me know how that works out for you... as a refference, watch the movie "Buck", and pay attention to the Palamino Stallion, then you might understand what i'm talking about... ( I've fixed many horses like that, using my method..) Plain and simple it works...
+Ty Nitti plain and simple it works? Why because you said so? Bullshit! At various points throughout this video you risked injury to that horse and yourself.
Thank you for the Kudo's.. And always willing to give advice..
We can't be responsible for other people's stupidity and/or inhumane treatment. the best we can do is offer the best practices and techniques and hope that others will be as gentle and follow suit. Its better to try and offer good information than to watch people struggle to do something like this in a harmful manner.
Thats a nice looking mare, I love Grullas
thank you
Kudos to you and keep up the good work ( The stuff you put your Mare through) lol.
Chill out folks! Its a tool to use when needed. If this freaks you out, you probable would hate hobble training as well, even though it could save your horse if he ever gets his legs tangled in wire.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us inexperienced. My donkey is going to be a lot better off.
You just made my point.
Hi :) I was just wondering, would this be a good thing to do for a horse that is not very good at staying focussed? I have a horse that I sometimes have a hard time of getting to pay attention to me and I wonder if it is because of a lack of interest in me or a lack of trust.
Thanks for giving the demonstration, I would think you would have to be decent at using a rope and have good timing. Experience is required!
Nice job
who said I am experienced? I only wrote down my opinion.. I was just wondering.. I wrote this whole thing down.. so a person that want to give me advice knows what my point of view is and it is easier to answer :)
Actual time of horse laying down from contact to finish, is roughly 9 minutes..
i have been trying this for years now aprox. 1 1/2 now and i still can't get his to do anything, he powers over me and rips the rope out of my hand so he can stand up, we have done basic horseman ship so he does trust me but he will not do this!! help, if i cant find his talent my parents are going to sell him to the doggers.!>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME PLEASE!
Thank you for this video. I have a little welsh X mare who was rescued and is very aggressive. 3 years later and a whole lot of kindness and patience, she's not made any improvement. As a last resort I heard about laying down a horse. I followed your video and got the pony to lay down. She almost went into a comatose state, very relaxed, closed eyes and occassional lifting of her head to graze a bit of grass. It was an experience we both needed in order to move forward. Thank you.
So take the video for what it's worth. Use it, or don't. I know the arguments will never stop, and there are decent points on both sides, but seriously...this is an FYI video, not a video advocating laying every horse on the planet down so we can ride them. Sheesh!
Nice job Ty. I pretty much do it the same way, my horses still like me and will lay down with me pointing to the ground now, no rope. They trust me, like you. Your horse was safe even in the most vulnerable position it could be in, a good learning experience. Keep up the good work.
Hi Bill, I'm glad to hear a guy that can lay down properly support this option. I'm struggling a bit w my horse, this may be the way he can get some peace.
Thanks for posting! See way too many horses in kill pens, just because folks could not understand heard dynamics, the need to not allow aggressive behavior and as a result, created "bad horses!" The horse was not hurt, scared or traumatized... Well done!
thank you Jeff..
I just want to Thankyou for showing how the patience you took with her truly paid off in the end for both of you! Safely. It took you less time to start over letting her back up, than so many I've watched battle all the way down. Excellent lesson. Thankyou, Ginger
So true
This is one of the many ways-done very carefully and with experience.Yeah if u know what ur doing,its okay.My horse had some problems and we layed her down and she was so much better afterwards!!It helps if your horse isn't submitting.If you can't see the pressure in the ropes as being her reward-LOOK HARDER!!!They treat themselves the same way in the herd,and even worse.There is nothing wrong with this video,it is nice and keep it up!Whatever way works for you thats fine.Don't tear other peoples ways and horsemanship down,it won't get you anywhere.Not everyone does it the same way!If you and your horse are happy with eachother,nobody can tell you your wrong.There is diiferent trainers and different horsemanship,some don't work with others,some do.Keep it up!