Judo for Intermediate BJJ’ers - The Shintaro Higashi Show
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2023
- Recently, many intermediate BJJ'ers are dabbling in Judo to improve their takedown game, but are they approaching it the right way? Some Judo throws can be detrimental if used incorrectly in BJJ. Is it better off for the intermediate BJJ'ers to learn wrestling? In this episode, Shintaro and Peter go in depth on how intermediate BJJ'ers should incorporate Judo into their training and game.
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Just started BJJ a month ago and can’t stand the idea of pulling guard. I immediately started looking for Judo throws to work on, and it has been a great addition.
Georgian Grip Sumi Gaeshi has been one of my high success judo throws when I am doing my gi BJJ. I have been lucky to have been part of a gym in the past that also had high level judo instructors with our BJJ classes
Nailed it Shintaro, ~30 year old blue belt who tried judo and fell in love with it.
Next, do a judo for intermediate BJJers in judo open randori
After 3 years of BJJ I started in Judo. And... forget the throws... my ground game has improved SIGNIFICANTLY because of the amount of control that is focused in Judo. If this guys really good at defending submissions from turtle we just go to sankaku jime now... so effective.
Been there on the forward fake and tani otoshi fail because they didn't have enough skill to take the bait 😂😂😂
Blue belt here! Takedowns are crucial and top game
Osoto Gari, Daeshi Bari, Ko ouchi gari are things that have been showing up in my standup after a month or so of judo cross training.
haha thanks to seeing a few of your shorts and podcasts I started judo a month ago, we have learnt only 3 throws for now and somehow I am the only guy with experience having blue belt in BJJ and the coach shows all the techniques on me:)
Great conversation
Great channel and podcast. You nailed it - I’m a 38 year old bjj blue belt just starting judo. Judo is greatly improving my gi stand-up. Uchi mata, sumi gaeshi, and Georgian style have been great against bent over bjj guys.
Great stuff. I've been teaching judo for bjj for about 3 years now and have similar observations. Other things my students have had great success with are Georgian grip series and yoko sumi ga ichi.
Not a boxer by any standards but a hobbyist but from my experience clinching is essential in boxing for a variety of reasons. You would negate the inside fighting skills and essentially turn the sport into a rock and sock-em robot. Inside fighting in boxing is an art in itself. Please see Roberto Duran, probably my favorite fighter of all time. He was an absolute master at it and I don't claim to quite understand all the nuances he does but man is he slick on the inside. Some world champions never learn the subtleties due to a variety of reasons: look at Gamboa. Gamboa (Cuban system I think???), a super physically gifted fighter who when on the inside flurries and then hugs. Also there are times where you get dinged by a lesser opponent, essentially a lucky shot and you have to hold on until your head clears. This happens quite often in a match.
I am one of those blue belts lol just started some judo and it's awesome.
Question on exposure... 2 or more guys from the 545 class could use the end of open mats when it clears out a bit. I do playful randori with my son for a round or two, using bjj ruleset at the end of open mat.
Hey Shintaro-
So I teach Judo in a BJJ school (while also doing BJJ as a student as well). I'm having some of the similar issues on teaching Judo to Bjj guys because I get the sense that they're learning Judo for Bjj and not Judo for Judo.
Maybe I should focus, like you said, teaching reaction to certain posture situations and throws that are good for Bjj?
And unfortunately the class is only once a week so there's only so much I can teach when we (as judokas) know that to get good at many throws we need to drill and get used to our body and hips to turn a certain way or else it's half-assed in live sparring.
Got any pointers on teaching here? Should I focus more on Judo for Bjj? Or Judo for Judo? Of more the former? Are there certain throws I should not teach because of back exposure and shorter/tighter sleeves?
Just trying to get the Judo class here more effective for the students I have.
Whenever I fight a wrestler on BJJ I usually try tomoe nage or sumi gaeshi, they never expect it.
Please make 'Why boxing is not legit'. Do it for every martial art. I love it.
Do a Judo for BJJ instructional!
Uki Waza is my go to throw against BJJ guys, as a BJJ guy
What about foot sweeps, are you not teachnig those at all?
I'm a BJJ black belt and also teach. I'm working on my judo and do think that Osoto Gari is the first and essential take down. Give me your opinion. Thanks.
In Europe population and situation are different, but if I'm a White belt in BJJ and Green belt in Judo, are useful the same advices ? Or not. Thanks.😊
Where I train we mix a lot of wrestling into our training. It's exhausting, and even though I am getting better I still want to get better at Judo. I have no formal Judo but I do have a throw or two that I picked up and make work somehow. I just wish I had more opportunity to train Judo.
I'm 41 and wrestling is wearing me out.
Did you say you are teaching at Essential BJJ now? JT Torres’ place?
Omar Salum is great at that 🎈 Sweep. I’ll call it The Brazilian Tomoe Nage. Look him up.
If I'm going for the "tomonagei" (balloon sweep) it's so I can finish my opponat with a jiikatamei. Always. And when I see the Bjj players miss this opportunity EVERY TIME I laugh.
tomoe nage😅
And I wrote what? . . "tomonagei" .
So maybe "Wazari" is . . "Waza Ari"?
knitpicking. Sheesh.
@@ardentabacistx5360 he doens't know what " "mean xD
The bjj is NOT bs. Think about it. Sometimes it seems like REVERSE engineering Sensei Kano Jigoro's work.
I saw a strong PUSH AGAINST THIS when I attended training at the Kodokan.
Who's Kano Jigoro ? I'ver heard of Jigoro Kano, not the other way around.
@@anjoLas Japanese put the family name first and there 'first name' second. So because they do it the other way to europeans - both ways are kind of correct depending where you are from.
You are missing the point of transitioning the sport of boxing from the gym to the street.
When you watch boxing, unless you have never been hit by a boxer you will not understand. When a featherweight or welterweight boxer hits you on the street. with the small and simple technique that is his bread-and-butter move which he has performed tens of thousands of times and he contacts your ribs with said striking technique, where the boxer begins from his feet, through the twisting of his hips into that iron ungloved fist and into your ribcage THEN you will understand the value of his training as you lose your breath and hear the cracking.
Just as a black belt Judo player will do as he throws you to the ground with one of various techniques and you land on your back. gasping for air and waiting for the arrival of paramedics who will take you to the hospital to get checked for a concussion because you never learn how to break a fall.
-IS- gripfighting not really a thing in BJJ? I know no-gi is becoming more and more popular but damn; Every day I hear something that turns me off of BJJ more and more
It’s absolutely not a thing above a basic level
Keep talking shit about boxing!!😂😂
Andy Ruiz doesn't look very athletic.... Don't judge the book...
I think he was talking about how said "boxer" moves, not about how his physique looks.
Getting tired of this bjj BS
Wdym?
Krav practitioner 🫵😂
@@PathtoMidnight Krav Maga teacher since 2007 and Judo practicer since 1983 ;)
Edit: close
@@anjoLas you could be the ghost of Jigoro Kano for all I care lol
Salty krav practitioners activate my point and laugh reflex every time
@@PathtoMidnight ok, kid
Yeah, how do you deal with Bjj guys able to do a Kata Garuma in a competition while we can't.
Good question. Which rules? and gi or no gi? I'm assuming you're a Judoka in a BJJ competition?