If preemptive cast is free, has no cd and works even on your pvp defense, then she's already leagues better than any other tank. She also is required for fiend hunt boss this patch, because only she will be able to tank both boss' skills and make the boss spend their skills solely on her. Also she will be good for some hard/vhard contents, basically giving you one extra turn to kill stuff. On top of that, her shield scale is quite strong even on +0, so she's f2p friendly as well. I'd say pull at least +0 and then see for yourself. People who don't have Zenith won't probably profit from Ventana anyway.
Her value does shoot up considerably if the first cast is free. I imagine it will be the case because of the wording, but we'll see. Without that, she's really just like any other tank with a taunt. However, I don't see how she's required for the fiend hunter boss. The boss attack skills have fixed aoes. Fixed means taunts don't work. I just think she'll be pvp meta with some niche usage in very hard modes if you have a weaker account. I didn't do very hard modes until recently because I was lazy. I just end up nuking everything in one turn now. I imagine that a tank would be useful if your account is newer and you don't already have taunt Lecliss.
I just started the game a week ago and in mirror wars I'm sick of seeing her in the opponent team almost 80% of the times... Someone pls tell me how to get win against her taunt
Honestly the Developers don't understand tanks at all, why are tank's skills so high cost? Most of them aren't even worth using we rather buff and do as much damage as we can. If they want tanks to be useful, they need to do what they did with buffers, knock their sp cost down to 1 or 2 just for the tank skills.
Even so tanks are still useless outside of ur defense pvp team lol. I think the real flaw is how the battle system work. Just do as much damage as possible turn 1 and u never need a tank in pve.
@@MarowakieYeah I have an easier time just killing everything in turn 1 on VH content. The hardest to clear out of VH content is when you can't one shot everything turn one, so like when the enemies are spread out you're not able to hit everything. Having a tank is honestly detrimental because you waste a team slot and in turn lessen your DPS so you can't one shot everything 😂😂😂.
Another way would be to have buffs and debuffs stacked in with tank skills so that you don't waste a team slot. So instead of having your normal buffers/debuffers you have these tanks that have those skills included with the tank skills instead. But even then I don't know if that will work the sp might still be to high or it might unbalance the game but having seen the newer costumes they are vastly superior to the older ones now including buffs and debuffs that might not be a problem 😂😂😂.
@@Sirciel Doesn't make sense to me because that means the wording is only there for pvp. Otherwise, it means that it automatically uses 6sp in pve settings. That'd be trash. We'll see what happens.
@@wellwellwell881 yeah that's what I argue in the discussion XD But someone point out that it might be optional on pve, like we need to activate it ourself so literally a skill just for pvp This is all assumptions ofcos, we don't really know anything If it cost 0 sp, then the character is quite op in both pvp and pve
Granhildr seems like a nuts Defense team PVP tank. Her skill activates at the start of the match so you need a buff stripper to go first or she'll tank everything your offense has to throw at her. 300% max hp shield is also no joke. Even at +1, it's like 150% which is already higher than leclis. Going to pull at least 1 copy because waifu anyways.
Crafting UR gear, you gonna need bunch of those later for endgame since the crafted UR gear has rarity from grade I to grade IV being the best f2p gear, you want to lv up your blacksmith crafter unit knowledge to max first
@@kamilkollodi2060oh my bad I didn't see your comment 😅😅😅. If you want to craft UR gear than you have to level up the small chick with the eye patch to max level ( I think her name was Layla?)
I am a beginner player so i dont realy if i should pull for thes character or wait. Maybe i wonder if i could just wait for powerder of hope an get a copy of Yuri becose she dont need a lot of investement. PS: You only need 1 Glacia xD very diferent from brave nine x).
Honestly speaking, she will probably see use in the pve field boss and defense teams in pvp. But Glacia is a better tank in the game since she can build up both physical defense and magical defense really high since her personal weapon has magical defense built into it and her sp cost is really low and her taunt and tank skill last 4 turns.
Also try to get your costumes to at least +3 since having them any less than that means not being able to clear the hardest content in the game (very hard) and their sp cost cut down by one (for most costumes that is, newer costumes start cutting down sp down by one at +1 but should still be at least plus three to be able to clear VH content).
Also Yuri is worth it she actually hit really hard and her first costume (the tiger one) gives her an attack buff for four turns meaning you can have both that buff and the buff from this costume (crit damage buff) stack meaning she's going to hit hard. Also there is a lot of enemies in the game that are weak against light damage.
Taunt can be dispelled right? If so then her skill seems underwhelming. In pvp she will be dispelled by schera on the first turn and can't do shit after that. If they give her a second costume maybe she will be much better
u can use her as a meat shield, all ur attackers would waste big attacks on her, leaving you open to get blasted after your turn end, to me she's broken for pvp, full HP build
@@mischief1859 if the skill description is as it says she will be the only unit that can grab agro on your opponents starting turn, meaning, glacia have to wait on your turn to start skill
@@mischief1859 her use is to waste enemy turn 1 damage. so even if you Bhelena Schera, she already did her job. she wasted your turn. next turn def will kill your team since most of his units survive
So she seems like a good Defense PVP unit for 1 attack (if she doesn't get dispel by Schera) at the min. But everything else, she sucks. Attacking PVP, no point, because you wont have 6 sp to use her skill.
In attack pvp, if she uses the skill automatically without an SP cost(this is based on the description's wording), then she'd be meta for sure. Then you can use the full SP for dps while still having a taunt. I don't understand the point of her wording if it only works for defense pvp. It should say "only in pvp" if that was the case. And if it works in pve, that'd be retarded. Why make a skill force you to use it instead of giving you the choice? The only way this wording makes sense to me is if the first activation is free.
If preemptive cast is free, has no cd and works even on your pvp defense, then she's already leagues better than any other tank. She also is required for fiend hunt boss this patch, because only she will be able to tank both boss' skills and make the boss spend their skills solely on her. Also she will be good for some hard/vhard contents, basically giving you one extra turn to kill stuff. On top of that, her shield scale is quite strong even on +0, so she's f2p friendly as well. I'd say pull at least +0 and then see for yourself. People who don't have Zenith won't probably profit from Ventana anyway.
Her value does shoot up considerably if the first cast is free. I imagine it will be the case because of the wording, but we'll see. Without that, she's really just like any other tank with a taunt. However, I don't see how she's required for the fiend hunter boss. The boss attack skills have fixed aoes. Fixed means taunts don't work. I just think she'll be pvp meta with some niche usage in very hard modes if you have a weaker account. I didn't do very hard modes until recently because I was lazy. I just end up nuking everything in one turn now. I imagine that a tank would be useful if your account is newer and you don't already have taunt Lecliss.
let's just hope the new ventana costume made her self sufficient
does it work in pvp attack? i did 2 pvp tests and it seem not working .
I just started the game a week ago and in mirror wars I'm sick of seeing her in the opponent team almost 80% of the times... Someone pls tell me how to get win against her taunt
Honestly the Developers don't understand tanks at all, why are tank's skills so high cost? Most of them aren't even worth using we rather buff and do as much damage as we can. If they want tanks to be useful, they need to do what they did with buffers, knock their sp cost down to 1 or 2 just for the tank skills.
Even so tanks are still useless outside of ur defense pvp team lol. I think the real flaw is how the battle system work. Just do as much damage as possible turn 1 and u never need a tank in pve.
@@MarowakieYeah I have an easier time just killing everything in turn 1 on VH content. The hardest to clear out of VH content is when you can't one shot everything turn one, so like when the enemies are spread out you're not able to hit everything. Having a tank is honestly detrimental because you waste a team slot and in turn lessen your DPS so you can't one shot everything 😂😂😂.
Another way would be to have buffs and debuffs stacked in with tank skills so that you don't waste a team slot. So instead of having your normal buffers/debuffers you have these tanks that have those skills included with the tank skills instead. But even then I don't know if that will work the sp might still be to high or it might unbalance the game but having seen the newer costumes they are vastly superior to the older ones now including buffs and debuffs that might not be a problem 😂😂😂.
my Yuri is +3 and its good enough, very strong
Preemptive means free activation, so 0 sp needed. Kekl OP in PvP
Some discussion I see said she might still use 6sp to activate the preemptive taunt
So the skill is only useful on pvp defense ig
@@Sirciel Doesn't make sense to me because that means the wording is only there for pvp. Otherwise, it means that it automatically uses 6sp in pve settings. That'd be trash. We'll see what happens.
@@wellwellwell881 yeah that's what I argue in the discussion XD
But someone point out that it might be optional on pve, like we need to activate it ourself so literally a skill just for pvp
This is all assumptions ofcos, we don't really know anything
If it cost 0 sp, then the character is quite op in both pvp and pve
Already spent most on yuri , gonna save for ventana😂
Yeah wait for Ventana, all though I don't have the previous costume. I'm still battling for Yuri
Granhildr seems like a nuts Defense team PVP tank. Her skill activates at the start of the match so you need a buff stripper to go first or she'll tank everything your offense has to throw at her. 300% max hp shield is also no joke. Even at +1, it's like 150% which is already higher than leclis. Going to pull at least 1 copy because waifu anyways.
Just started now. Pulled her 2 . So means +1 good enough??
@@AstaLuci pretty good +0, +5 broken tank 🤣
I got 2 Granhildr on my 1st pull... should i continue? I am new, my main DPS is Bunny Celia +5, started playing at D-5 Celia banner.
what is this ancient crystal usage?
Crafting UR gear, you gonna need bunch of those later for endgame since the crafted UR gear has rarity from grade I to grade IV being the best f2p gear, you want to lv up your blacksmith crafter unit knowledge to max first
@@zacmochie7031 crafting? i cannot craft UR gear and my crafter has max crafting, it can make normal SR purple items
Don't bother with SR craftable gear btw just skip straight to UR craftable gear you get more bang for your buck.
@@kamilkollodi2060oh my bad I didn't see your comment 😅😅😅. If you want to craft UR gear than you have to level up the small chick with the eye patch to max level ( I think her name was Layla?)
@@Bros_Before_Hee_ho_hos no idea how to do it
I am a beginner player so i dont realy if i should pull for thes character or wait. Maybe i wonder if i could just wait for powerder of hope an get a copy of Yuri becose she dont need a lot of investement. PS: You only need 1 Glacia xD very diferent from brave nine x).
Honestly speaking, she will probably see use in the pve field boss and defense teams in pvp. But Glacia is a better tank in the game since she can build up both physical defense and magical defense really high since her personal weapon has magical defense built into it and her sp cost is really low and her taunt and tank skill last 4 turns.
Also try to get your costumes to at least +3 since having them any less than that means not being able to clear the hardest content in the game (very hard) and their sp cost cut down by one (for most costumes that is, newer costumes start cutting down sp down by one at +1 but should still be at least plus three to be able to clear VH content).
Also Yuri is worth it she actually hit really hard and her first costume (the tiger one) gives her an attack buff for four turns meaning you can have both that buff and the buff from this costume (crit damage buff) stack meaning she's going to hit hard. Also there is a lot of enemies in the game that are weak against light damage.
tho i dont have her first costume sadly and dont have Glacia.@@Bros_Before_Hee_ho_hos
Taunt can be dispelled right? If so then her skill seems underwhelming. In pvp she will be dispelled by schera on the first turn and can't do shit after that. If they give her a second costume maybe she will be much better
u can use her as a meat shield, all ur attackers would waste big attacks on her, leaving you open to get blasted after your turn end, to me she's broken for pvp, full HP build
@@gamerf2p843 yeah maybe if she can build 90% pdef and mdef, but we already have glacia for that
@@mischief1859 if the skill description is as it says she will be the only unit that can grab agro on your opponents starting turn, meaning, glacia have to wait on your turn to start skill
@@gamerf2p843 schera can dispel it..
@@mischief1859 her use is to waste enemy turn 1 damage. so even if you Bhelena Schera, she already did her job. she wasted your turn. next turn def will kill your team since most of his units survive
free 0 sp autocast in turn 1, very OP in pvp, good in PvE
6 sp autocast in turn 1, meh, garbage,
So she seems like a good Defense PVP unit for 1 attack (if she doesn't get dispel by Schera) at the min. But everything else, she sucks. Attacking PVP, no point, because you wont have 6 sp to use her skill.
In attack pvp, if she uses the skill automatically without an SP cost(this is based on the description's wording), then she'd be meta for sure. Then you can use the full SP for dps while still having a taunt. I don't understand the point of her wording if it only works for defense pvp. It should say "only in pvp" if that was the case. And if it works in pve, that'd be retarded. Why make a skill force you to use it instead of giving you the choice? The only way this wording makes sense to me is if the first activation is free.