Yeah, for my own learning I wanted a reveal, like "here we can see that our analysis was very plausible because he's watching footage of someone flirting with his sister".
The lady at around 11.30? I totally agree. I'm still not convinced that was sadness. Trust your instincts. Lips pressed together don't always mean sadness. I know people surpressing a smile with that same lip movement.
To be honest, narrowing of the eyebrows (Action Unit 4) is commonly present in anger, fear, sadness, disgust, physical pain, confusion, realisation and sexual arousal. There are probably more than this, it is generally a bad idea to assume an emotion from one facial movement alone.
I think instead of saying fear, contempt, anger, it is more useful to give an example, as "he is listening to someone speaking about him, he is first nervous, then is pleased with what was said." Also, a person that is darker in nature, like a malignant narcissist will confuse a shy , nervous smile for a smirk. I believe that most people can not learn microexpressions unless they take extensive...EXTENSIVE training and are able to censure their own feelings to kept the reading neutral and free of projection, or if they are a sensitive or empath. People who were abused as children, for example, had to learn to read the faces of their parents to survive, and had to be spot on accurate. Most people these days don't even know how to interpret the tone of someone's voice to convey the emotion, nor do they care enough about a person to concentrate on people's feelings. Most arguments are caused by disassociation from care.
you just need more context it’s nothing to do with personality types, if anything dark personalities read expressions better, I would go as far as to say that if you struggle with reading these expressions or at rather agreeing with the narrator then its more to do with the fact that you are able to easily consider a far greater number of circumstances ranging from the subjects perspective and stimuli to those given reactions
I have Synesthesia, so I see colors in my mind when I hear any sound. And when someone lies/hides emotions, the tone of the colors of their voice change. So I can sense it on phone calls also. The only drawback is that I get so fascinated by this that I put less effort in taking the right action. E.g. setting boundaries, talking smartly, being cautious.
Its a gift and a curse. Knowing someone's lying doesn't make it easier to get them to tell the truth. Most people only get offended if you suggest they're lying, even when they know they are.
i am really interested in face expressions and body language. did all of them really show anger at the beginning of whatever they're watching? or could it be a sign of focusing or observing what they're watching?
Kaiyan Kelly I'd disagree. When I'm confused, for example, I usually bring my eyebrows as if I was angry, but I'm not, I'm confused, and sometimes I'm confused for a few seconds and sometimes just for a split second, right before "it hits me". I know a few people who have a similar expression when they're confused. In the seventh video he completely disregards her mouth. I'd say she sees something funny which she doesn't fully understand at the beginning (she's confused), eyebrows coming together while her lips widen and slightly go up, that's definitely not anger, she's also slightly disgusted with what she sees. Then it "hits" her, so she raises her eyebrows, her eyes widen and her mouth opens up, which is a surprise, so in my opinion she more or less goes from "what's happening" into "why would it happen".
This is actually really interesting- as someone with Autism(aspbergers) I didn't struggle much. What a lot of people with aspbergers react to is that people show certain emotions through speech, and other emotions with body language. It causes confusion and uncertainty, and from that, misscomunications. A lot of people are saying that you got the sadness one wrong; what people are seeing is two emotions- one false and one real. She's not happy. She's replicating an emotion while actually feeling another one. If you are bodily aware, it can be quite easy to do a false smile that looks real to other people. A lot of people with depression master that skill, as an example. They put a slight tension just under their eye that pushes the outer corner of the lower eyelid up. It's extremely easy once you learn what muscles to tense, it's child play, to be honest. The one thing that can give it away is a slight delay beteeen the smile, and the crinkling(?) around the eyes.
Same here. I also have Asperger's and I can pick up micro expressions easily. It fees so alien and uncomfortable (especially when the person's pretending to be nice) being able to read the person's true emotion while they're trying to portray something else. It'd be interesting to see if a large number of Autistics have this skill. We're great at pattern recognition. To me, body language and micro-expressions are a lot like patterns.
OK I'm glad you guys were saying it because I nailed every one of these (except I thought I saw a bit of fear in the last one, idk) and I've also been diagnosed as autistic. I was talking to someone at length the other week and I saw many 'disgust' and 'anger' microexpressions, despite the fact they seemed nice otherwise. It makes you wonder what's going on in people's heads when they're talking to you. For example, is their head elsewhere or are they angry at you?
Great video! Though, I don't quite understand the following interpretations: 1:07 (Video 1): Could the anger-part also be something like "critical observation"? Tbh I see this more than anger. A lot of people/thinkers look angry while thinking critically, which does not mean that they are angry. 10:45 (2nd Video 6): I don't see sadness, but rather a "supressed laugh". There seems to be a veery subtle hidden smile. Am I misinterpreting and if yes why ?
@@Estrategista29 I agree with Francis, The quick flick of the eyes, the pursed lips, and the swallow show worry/fear. almost as if she's unsure and not so confident in what she just said. I noticed this too.
This is fascinating stuff here. I'm have a few questions for you. Are these emotional cues that you're listing as micro-expressions definitive, or are they open for interpretation? I ask because in video 1, I see a progression of emotional cues in his facial expression. To me it seems to show disbelief, into anger, into subtle curiosity with what he's seen. The brow furrowing doesn't seem to shift to anger until we see it in his eyes when he realizes what he's just seen. Then there's a slight up-tilt of the right eyebrow that indicates a subtle curiosity afterwards. Please let me know if you can. Love the content!
I love the fact you used Japanese people for this study...culturally known as the least emotionally expressive people on the planet. Talk about an easy start :P
In video 7 (11:46) it definitely looked like there was contempt as well. The left side (my right) of her mouth raised more than the other and to me was more obvious than the disgust expression.
I suggest that in the first clip, that the first micro expression isnt anger, but its a questioning look with a touch of surprise, then he moved on to full surprise as the second micro expression. Itd help more if you could tell us what you are doing, saying, or showing this person, because that information is releveant in relation to how we analyze the looks. If u showed him something he wasnt ready to see, that was somewhat offensive but more towards the side of being societally acceptable, then its not anger its just an initial wonderment at seeing something you werent expecting and on top of that the thing u see is more intense then u were ready for. Therefore u get an expression that is similar to anger in its geometric recognition pattern, but I believe the first emotion is much closer to surprise then anger. Think of it as a preliminary expression to the full expression of surprise, being the fully raised eyebrows and slightly widened eyes
After the explanation of "contempt", I understood that what's happening is they're using specialized terms which are more a name for the specific movement, than they are explanations for the emotion. I agree with you -- my reading of the expression was "confusion, then surprise". And I agree that seeing what people were reacting to would be very helpful. The video as it stands is playing a very particular education game, where the ultimate "proof" that a microexpression has been read correctly is that certain muscles are contracting. This seems like an appropriate game to play when the goal is just to get the student to notice and categorize microexpressions, not yet to interpret them. I'm assuming that later on, the course must list situations when the "anger" microexpression has various meanings; so, it all makes sense as a teaching method, even if it's misleading at first.
a lot of what is said in this video is not accurate. he's confusing flattened lips with sadness. the edges of the mouth aren't turning downward, the lips are pressing together causing the sides of the mouth to move outward slightly and the corners to become more apparent. flattening of the lips can indicate disapproval, frustration, or a repressed desire to speak. look at the nod of the head in video 6... we aren't getting full context here, but it appears as if she's being talked to, the slight nod with the flattening of the lips would indicate she's disapproving or holding back a desire to speak. think of when someone is talking to you and they're saying something you don't necessarily agree with, or have some additional input, but you don't want to come out and say it. of course without context all of this is just speculation...
@@intargc That's what I thought too, like she disagreed but didn't want to say that she disagreed. Then closed her eyes as if to ignore the rest of whatever she was seeing / hearing.
The contempt one is super hard, when one side of lip end is raised / asymmetrical, it's sooo small and happens really fast. Even with the slow mo and zoom i had to re-watch many times to spot it fast enough
As a self-proclaimed "natural reader of people" and a long time AMATEUR student of micro expressions and body language, what does it mean if i got every single one right except for the ones where i got the anger half part of it wrong? 🤔 Let me offer my own explanation wether true or false based on the findings of Paul Ekman himself, who was not the first person to be credited for studying micro expressions but is widely considered to be the main pioneer of it. When you show a test subject certain images/videos and record their reaction for testing and educational purposes, there is often (but not always) an inevitable initial reaction of the test subject that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual EVENTUAL reaction which is called the 'true reaction' if i remember correctly. The two main INITIAL expressions a person will express when being subjected to these testing environments which can be false positives is almost always either surprise or focus. Focus is very close to anger. Not close enough to be indistinguishable but close none the less. Is it possible that all these dual micro expressions where 'anger' is one half of it, it's is actually focus instead, which by the defined science of it would mean that it doesn't represent the actual expression that is being portrayed but rather the initial reaction that is almost inevitable in these testing environments? This is not me being smug, it is a legitimate question coming from my previous & amateur knowledge and therefore genuine interest in micro expressions. So i genuinely would like to know any opinions, statements, expertise or any other follow ups, etc P.S. I just now remembered while writing this that i did get one other one wrong which was contempt + happiness. Which i thought was happiness + satisfaction which i was 100% wrong about on the initial guess. And all the other ones i was right about wasn't all necessarily in the right order since i didn't try to answer them in order per se. For example the one where it was contempt + sadness, i just said contempt AND sadness not distinguishing the two but rather taking both of them together as one emotional expression that camos forth from two separate ones, if that makes sense. Just thought i'd mention that for the sake of honesty EDIT: Spelling and grammar
I'm not catching anger all the time you catch it. I know you're the expert, but it FEELS like you're missing "questioning"/"intrigued". The last one and one other felt more like intrigued rather than anger. I've been able to catch ppls emotions on a physic and empathy base, and I'm pretty accurate.
02:35 what you see here is the expression of "WTF". notice the eyebrows narrow, the upper eyelid rises, and there you can clearly see it. the moment of "WTF".
He missed contempt on the last example for some reason. Also, I'm not convinced these were all interpreted appropriately. Ara Celli and Emmanuel M were probably correct about the lady who may have been stifling laughter around 11:00. Like any form of body language, context is very important.
I would love to know what it is they are observing, so we can see what causes a reaction of anger and fear. Or contempt and happiness. What occasions would you see these emotions together.
to be honest in every single facial expression what you said it was anger to me it was just something you do with your eyebrows when you don't know what's happening for a brief moment. like when you watch a video and something unexpected and unclear happens and you ask yourself what happened, and one instant later when you realize what happened you display an emotion like anger, happiness etc. i do the eyebrows movement very often when i'm confused for a split moment but that doesn't mean i'm angry.
what you write about are 'conversational signals'. we cover those in our training too, and they are different from the anger moments mentioned in this video. when you come to one of our live courses and you experience the process of recording your micro expressions, then you'll understand why the explanation is very accurate in this video.
I always get fear and surprised mixed up, some websites talk about their mouth as well but I still mix them up Also for video 7, when it is anger and surprised together, how can you determine it is not fear? Since the eyebrows "crumpled" and eyes widen. And why isn't contempt in the list of emotions even though there is asymmetrical movement at the mouth area?
Fear looks more tense than surprise imo. The eyebrows look like they are under more tension, surprise the eyebrows seem flatter and wider somehow, almost like the person is trying to open up their eyes to see better. Just my opinion.
Don´t you have to consider both eyes and mouth at the same time ? If you look only at the eyes how can you distinguish between fear and surprise or happyness and surprise ?
How do you guys differentiate the eyelids coming up due to surprise versus simply coming back to normal resting position, b/c in the first video, he narrowed his eyes. So when he un-narrows them, it seems like they're just going back up to normal baseline similar to how the eyebrows returned to baseline.
As an example, whats the interpretation of anger with suprise, whats does it mean? Is the person still angry or does it chance the emotion with the suprise?
I've a doubt. At the video 5 (close to 8:30) i think the lip corners didn't get down, making fear and not sadness. There fore, the lips are stretcher like AU20 following the FACS manual. So, am I wrong? why i couldn't see the lip corners depressed?
I am curious about why does surprise usually come with anger? Is it related to focusing something surprising. Is there a relation between being focused and being angry?
In video 7 you describe 3 emotions. Anger from the eyebrows narrowing down, disgust from the movement around the nose and surprise from the opening of the eyes. But isn't she also showing contempt from her mouth or am i reading that wrong? It happens during the initial anger expression and not the last.
Hi Patryk, Great video and explanations. Thank you for sharing. I like the fact that people in the video are not caucasian, meaning it makes a bit harder to spot micro expressions, but once you learn how to do it you can detect micro expressions on anyone...:)
Someone tell me about video 6.. she looks like she is trying to supress a smile.. the cheekbones and the eyes also suggest that.. her face does have a giddy feeling. Can someone tell me the distinguishing feature that thats sadness and not happiness? Feels like 2 things you wouldn't wanna get mixed up.
Odd how I asked someone a bit of a rhetorical a question thinking that they would obviously say no. Although, their initial response provided a noticable micro expression and Freudian slip with partially verbalization of a "Yes!", then quickly followed by the obviously expected professional answer of, "No!". All of which was followed by me vocally stating upon how surprised I was to find out that my what was supposed to be just some random question associated with the overall conversation we were having, not acknowledging the truth of the situation unspoken.
Yes there was definitely lip corner raising, but that doesn't particularly mean happiness. With my experience, I would have to say that the expression in 7 was not anger but rather a similar expression such as confusion or realisation. A lot of people will smile in these situations, especially those of Asian culture where it is the norm to smile despite the emotion. The expression is not solid anger as brow lowered is not sufficient evidence enough on its own and the expression is not solid happiness as there is no movement of the muscle orbiting the eye and upper cheek.
I always get surprise and fear mixed up! In the first video I thought it was anger and fear, however, I now know there is more stress present in the forehand and eyebrows with fear. Do the upper whites of the eyes show more in the fear microexpression too?This has helped me a lot.Thank you.
i got 4 engineering exams to do and i'm watching this instead of studying... pls kill me.
same exact situation. ahah
Le Klinch Same xD
Le Kline you and me both... NOT literally though...
Me too (eu também kkkkkkkkkk)
Me too. I have to study . And I am watching this instead 🤦
For 5 minutes, I just kept thinking “what are they showing this man that pisses him off so much....?”
He's watching dashcam owners Australia
That's true, he is still and observing, not communicating. I was thinking it was something painful.
True
UA-cam comments.
Yeah, for my own learning I wanted a reveal, like "here we can see that our analysis was very plausible because he's watching footage of someone flirting with his sister".
I literally thought that the person showing sadness looked like she was trying to stop laughing haha
Same
refer him "mentalist aathi"
Ara Celli same !
Too
The lady at around 11.30? I totally agree. I'm still not convinced that was sadness. Trust your instincts. Lips pressed together don't always mean sadness. I know people surpressing a smile with that same lip movement.
This guy is amazing. It's not the usual, pop culture of observation, the kind that just panders to ego. This is legitimately educational.
Anyone else make the faces while watching this
Zach Myers yes I do... It helps me try and figure out what the emotions are
Yep, we are people of great empathy. We are like jedis from StAR WARZ
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To me it looks like tf I’m looking at not anger
hahaha GUILTY
The "contempt" is slyness when someone's hurt brings them joy.
I need to know what they are watching.
Arominit I was thinking porn
videos with racist content?
It has to be interacial porn with bondage
What kind of porn they are watching
Slaughterhouse video.
narrow eyebrows i do it all the time but im not usually angry i might be a little confused.
To be honest, narrowing of the eyebrows (Action Unit 4) is commonly present in anger, fear, sadness, disgust, physical pain, confusion, realisation and sexual arousal. There are probably more than this, it is generally a bad idea to assume an emotion from one facial movement alone.
Exactly thats what i was thinking!
But once you establish a baseline read on a person you can derive his/her emotions from that baseline right?
nada 2151 i think in order to differentiate between the two you need to have the context aswell for more pin point accuracy
nada 2151 you may have miopia and you're trying to figure out what the heck u' re looking at...or may be that's just me
this is what I do at 3 am in the morning
where's my cat? 3:54 here lol
4:17 am
6:58 am
Funny it is actually 2:58 am
3:56am
I think instead of saying fear, contempt, anger, it is more useful to give an example, as "he is listening to someone speaking about him, he is first nervous, then is pleased with what was said." Also, a person that is darker in nature, like a malignant narcissist will confuse a shy , nervous smile for a smirk. I believe that most people can not learn microexpressions unless they take extensive...EXTENSIVE training and are able to censure their own feelings to kept the reading neutral and free of projection, or if they are a sensitive or empath. People who were abused as children, for example, had to learn to read the faces of their parents to survive, and had to be spot on accurate. Most people these days don't even know how to interpret the tone of someone's voice to convey the emotion, nor do they care enough about a person to concentrate on people's feelings. Most arguments are caused by disassociation from care.
you just need more context it’s nothing to do with personality types, if anything dark personalities read expressions better, I would go as far as to say that if you struggle with reading these expressions or at rather agreeing with the narrator then its more to do with the fact that you are able to easily consider a far greater number of circumstances ranging from the subjects perspective and stimuli to those given reactions
6:08 I definitely see the fear but I think it's good to note that this kinda mixes with shock. Like he's shocked to see something that is also scary.
I have Synesthesia, so I see colors in my mind when I hear any sound. And when someone lies/hides emotions, the tone of the colors of their voice change. So I can sense it on phone calls also. The only drawback is that I get so fascinated by this that I put less effort in taking the right action. E.g. setting boundaries, talking smartly, being cautious.
You should play poker.
Damn that is incredibly powerful use that to you’re advantage
Its a gift and a curse. Knowing someone's lying doesn't make it easier to get them to tell the truth. Most people only get offended if you suggest they're lying, even when they know they are.
That's actually very interesting
i want this right now lol
i am really interested in face expressions and body language. did all of them really show anger at the beginning of whatever they're watching? or could it be a sign of focusing or observing what they're watching?
The AU 4, read as anger, can be also the "complexity" expression. It seems consistent with the surprise afterwards.
I thought that too. I guessed confusion then surprise
Can't think of a better use of my time than watching this. Very interesting. Great Narrator!!!
It’s not anger every time it’s also confusion
That’s exactly what I was thinking
Sometimes fear + anger = confusion
That's what I was thinking, I thought the first one was confusion -> surprise -> recognition/approval
But confusion is usually a sign of frustration which is also associated with the feeling of anger. The level of anger varies but anger nonetheless.
How can you tell between confused and anger?
i was thinking that
why is not confusion a micro expression?
Jake Barcelona, i thought he looked confused too!
Kaiyan Kelly
I'd disagree. When I'm confused, for example, I usually bring my eyebrows as if I was angry, but I'm not, I'm confused, and sometimes I'm confused for a few seconds and sometimes just for a split second, right before "it hits me". I know a few people who have a similar expression when they're confused.
In the seventh video he completely disregards her mouth. I'd say she sees something funny which she doesn't fully understand at the beginning (she's confused), eyebrows coming together while her lips widen and slightly go up, that's definitely not anger, she's also slightly disgusted with what she sees. Then it "hits" her, so she raises her eyebrows, her eyes widen and her mouth opens up, which is a surprise, so in my opinion she more or less goes from "what's happening" into "why would it happen".
I think when you are confused, you also raise your lower eye lids and press your eyes slightly forwards, like a micro squinting of the eyes.
This is actually really interesting- as someone with Autism(aspbergers) I didn't struggle much.
What a lot of people with aspbergers react to is that people show certain emotions through speech, and other emotions with body language. It causes confusion and uncertainty, and from that, misscomunications.
A lot of people are saying that you got the sadness one wrong; what people are seeing is two emotions- one false and one real. She's not happy. She's replicating an emotion while actually feeling another one. If you are bodily aware, it can be quite easy to do a false smile that looks real to other people. A lot of people with depression master that skill, as an example. They put a slight tension just under their eye that pushes the outer corner of the lower eyelid up. It's extremely easy once you learn what muscles to tense, it's child play, to be honest. The one thing that can give it away is a slight delay beteeen the smile, and the crinkling(?) around the eyes.
Yup, she's pretending to be fine but in truth she's deeply uncomfortable
Same here. I also have Asperger's and I can pick up micro expressions easily. It fees so alien and uncomfortable (especially when the person's pretending to be nice) being able to read the person's true emotion while they're trying to portray something else.
It'd be interesting to see if a large number of Autistics have this skill. We're great at pattern recognition. To me, body language and micro-expressions are a lot like patterns.
OK I'm glad you guys were saying it because I nailed every one of these (except I thought I saw a bit of fear in the last one, idk) and I've also been diagnosed as autistic.
I was talking to someone at length the other week and I saw many 'disgust' and 'anger' microexpressions, despite the fact they seemed nice otherwise.
It makes you wonder what's going on in people's heads when they're talking to you. For example, is their head elsewhere or are they angry at you?
Great video! Though, I don't quite understand the following interpretations:
1:07 (Video 1): Could the anger-part also be something like "critical observation"? Tbh I see this more than anger. A lot of people/thinkers look angry while thinking critically, which does not mean that they are angry.
10:45 (2nd Video 6): I don't see sadness, but rather a "supressed laugh". There seems to be a veery subtle hidden smile. Am I misinterpreting and if yes why ?
Absolutely love this! Perfect for practice.
This is awesome. I am a psychology student and this video helped me a lot. Thanks and please upload more videos.
Or you could've just gone outside and observe people
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You think we got nothing better to do bro? 😂
@@bunnythevoyager2747 better than watching yt vids all day long?
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Wrong, only once as have life to go
Timestamp 9:38, the subject is swallowing. That means fear in this case. Really important also.
what if the subject has a dry throat?
You can't say its fear, swallowing by itself is insignificant. There is no movement in the facial muscles related to fear.
@@Estrategista29 I agree with Francis, The quick flick of the eyes, the pursed lips, and the swallow show worry/fear. almost as if she's unsure and not so confident in what she just said. I noticed this too.
THIS IS JUST AMAZING. BEST VIDEO FOR THIS TOPIC!
This is fascinating stuff here. I'm have a few questions for you. Are these emotional cues that you're listing as micro-expressions definitive, or are they open for interpretation? I ask because in video 1, I see a progression of emotional cues in his facial expression. To me it seems to show disbelief, into anger, into subtle curiosity with what he's seen. The brow furrowing doesn't seem to shift to anger until we see it in his eyes when he realizes what he's just seen. Then there's a slight up-tilt of the right eyebrow that indicates a subtle curiosity afterwards. Please let me know if you can. Love the content!
I love the fact you used Japanese people for this study...culturally known as the least emotionally expressive people on the planet. Talk about an easy start :P
That's actually really interesting thank you for commenting lol
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In video 7 (11:46) it definitely looked like there was contempt as well. The left side (my right) of her mouth raised more than the other and to me was more obvious than the disgust expression.
The sadness part seems more like 'awkwardness' to me. Or a sense of superiority. The anger could be confusion as well
I suggest that in the first clip, that the first micro expression isnt anger, but its a questioning look with a touch of surprise, then he moved on to full surprise as the second micro expression. Itd help more if you could tell us what you are doing, saying, or showing this person, because that information is releveant in relation to how we analyze the looks. If u showed him something he wasnt ready to see, that was somewhat offensive but more towards the side of being societally acceptable, then its not anger its just an initial wonderment at seeing something you werent expecting and on top of that the thing u see is more intense then u were ready for. Therefore u get an expression that is similar to anger in its geometric recognition pattern, but I believe the first emotion is much closer to surprise then anger. Think of it as a preliminary expression to the full expression of surprise, being the fully raised eyebrows and slightly widened eyes
After the explanation of "contempt", I understood that what's happening is they're using specialized terms which are more a name for the specific movement, than they are explanations for the emotion. I agree with you -- my reading of the expression was "confusion, then surprise". And I agree that seeing what people were reacting to would be very helpful. The video as it stands is playing a very particular education game, where the ultimate "proof" that a microexpression has been read correctly is that certain muscles are contracting. This seems like an appropriate game to play when the goal is just to get the student to notice and categorize microexpressions, not yet to interpret them. I'm assuming that later on, the course must list situations when the "anger" microexpression has various meanings; so, it all makes sense as a teaching method, even if it's misleading at first.
@@dranorter word. Heard.
Can you do one where people find positive attractions for one another?
1st example is "inquisitive" as in he's not sure what he's seeing, and then surprise...
a lot of what is said in this video is not accurate. he's confusing flattened lips with sadness. the edges of the mouth aren't turning downward, the lips are pressing together causing the sides of the mouth to move outward slightly and the corners to become more apparent. flattening of the lips can indicate disapproval, frustration, or a repressed desire to speak.
look at the nod of the head in video 6... we aren't getting full context here, but it appears as if she's being talked to, the slight nod with the flattening of the lips would indicate she's disapproving or holding back a desire to speak.
think of when someone is talking to you and they're saying something you don't necessarily agree with, or have some additional input, but you don't want to come out and say it.
of course without context all of this is just speculation...
@@intargc That's what I thought too, like she disagreed but didn't want to say that she disagreed. Then closed her eyes as if to ignore the rest of whatever she was seeing / hearing.
When eyebrows move downwards, is that sometimes a sign of confusion rather than disgust? How do you differentiate between the two?
The contempt one is super hard, when one side of lip end is raised / asymmetrical, it's sooo small and happens really fast. Even with the slow mo and zoom i had to re-watch many times to spot it fast enough
your voice is so soft and mesmerizing :")
As a self-proclaimed "natural reader of people" and a long time AMATEUR student of micro expressions and body language, what does it mean if i got every single one right except for the ones where i got the anger half part of it wrong? 🤔
Let me offer my own explanation wether true or false based on the findings of Paul Ekman himself, who was not the first person to be credited for studying micro expressions but is widely considered to be the main pioneer of it.
When you show a test subject certain images/videos and record their reaction for testing and educational purposes, there is often (but not always) an inevitable initial reaction of the test subject that has absolutely nothing to do with the actual EVENTUAL reaction which is called the 'true reaction' if i remember correctly.
The two main INITIAL expressions a person will express when being subjected to these testing environments which can be false positives is almost always either surprise or focus. Focus is very close to anger. Not close enough to be indistinguishable but close none the less.
Is it possible that all these dual micro expressions where 'anger' is one half of it, it's is actually focus instead, which by the defined science of it would mean that it doesn't represent the actual expression that is being portrayed but rather the initial reaction that is almost inevitable in these testing environments?
This is not me being smug, it is a legitimate question coming from my previous & amateur knowledge and therefore genuine interest in micro expressions.
So i genuinely would like to know any opinions, statements, expertise or any other follow ups, etc
P.S. I just now remembered while writing this that i did get one other one wrong which was contempt + happiness. Which i thought was happiness + satisfaction which i was 100% wrong about on the initial guess. And all the other ones i was right about wasn't all necessarily in the right order since i didn't try to answer them in order per se.
For example the one where it was contempt + sadness, i just said contempt AND sadness not distinguishing the two but rather taking both of them together as one emotional expression that camos forth from two separate ones, if that makes sense. Just thought i'd mention that for the sake of honesty
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I'm not catching anger all the time you catch it. I know you're the expert, but it FEELS like you're missing "questioning"/"intrigued". The last one and one other felt more like intrigued rather than anger. I've been able to catch ppls emotions on a physic and empathy base, and I'm pretty accurate.
Yes yes and yes ! This is what I've been looking for ! You've earned yourself a subscriber !
This is interesting, I'm new to the concept and have no clue what I'm looking at
02:35 what you see here is the expression of "WTF". notice the eyebrows narrow, the upper eyelid rises, and there you can clearly see it. the moment of "WTF".
Thank you so much for making this video. Super helpful
Fantastic work, thank you !
He missed contempt on the last example for some reason. Also, I'm not convinced these were all interpreted appropriately. Ara Celli and Emmanuel M were probably correct about the lady who may have been stifling laughter around 11:00. Like any form of body language, context is very important.
I would love to know what it is they are observing, so we can see what causes a reaction of anger and fear. Or contempt and happiness. What occasions would you see these emotions together.
More context is needed. It's almost pointless viewing micro expressions without context.
That is what we cover and teach in our online or in-person courses. You can get a free sample of what we teach here: centerforbodylanguage.com/freey
I always manage to spot fear and contempt, but none of the others.
to be honest in every single facial expression what you said it was anger to me it was just something you do with your eyebrows when you don't know what's happening for a brief moment. like when you watch a video and something unexpected and unclear happens and you ask yourself what happened, and one instant later when you realize what happened you display an emotion like anger, happiness etc. i do the eyebrows movement very often when i'm confused for a split moment but that doesn't mean i'm angry.
what you write about are 'conversational signals'. we cover those in our training too, and they are different from the anger moments mentioned in this video. when you come to one of our live courses and you experience the process of recording your micro expressions, then you'll understand why the explanation is very accurate in this video.
I always get fear and surprised mixed up, some websites talk about their mouth as well but I still mix them up
Also for video 7, when it is anger and surprised together, how can you determine it is not fear? Since the eyebrows "crumpled" and eyes widen. And why isn't contempt in the list of emotions even though there is asymmetrical movement at the mouth area?
Fear looks more tense than surprise imo. The eyebrows look like they are under more tension, surprise the eyebrows seem flatter and wider somehow, almost like the person is trying to open up their eyes to see better. Just my opinion.
omg... i got them all right... i think i watched Lie to Me too many times
except for 2 of them, but idk
Don´t you have to consider both eyes and mouth at the same time ? If you look only at the eyes how can you distinguish between fear and surprise or happyness and surprise ?
How do you guys differentiate the eyelids coming up due to surprise versus simply coming back to normal resting position, b/c in the first video, he narrowed his eyes. So when he un-narrows them, it seems like they're just going back up to normal baseline similar to how the eyebrows returned to baseline.
Thanks yo! I am going to be acting these to complicate people
As an example, whats the interpretation of anger with suprise, whats does it mean? Is the person still angry or does it chance the emotion with the suprise?
I've a doubt. At the video 5 (close to 8:30) i think the lip corners didn't get down, making fear and not sadness. There fore, the lips are stretcher like AU20 following the FACS manual. So, am I wrong? why i couldn't see the lip corners depressed?
You can see how the lips go down especially on the left side of the screen.
Why does it seem like she's smiling at 11:30 - so difficult to discern that sadness. I thought it was trying to supress smiling
@ajmad1466 Yeah, those are good questions!
Thank Dog he took the time to show & tell us that Micro Expressions in 4K is in fact in 4K!
Thank you so much sir for providing this type of videos 🤗i want More videos please 🙏 upload some more videos
Is it just my phone or is this videos highest quality 720p?
+Patryk Wezowski Hi, may I ask you how you would explain his brief and quick eye flutter after displaying happiness? Thanks
This is very helpfull, thank you!
did he say content or contempt before happiness?
I am startled by the same , contempt means worthlessness ,happiness is not worth less. A little confused for now
I must disagree with eyebrows down as an indication of anger. This could very well be an initial reaction of shock and awe.
Yeah and confusion, I furrow my eyebrows all the time because I don’t get anything lol
absolutely amazing video. Awesome, awesome stuff
I'm new to this and found it a bit easy, is there a more advanced level ? Interesting nonetheless to see the visual cues behind our intuitions
Very useful 👍.. thankyou so much
I'm genuinely bad in reading emotions, this was interesting to observe.
Lol me learning idk how to make the contempt face... pretty fitting lol. I usually think of myself as lower than others
On the last video wouldn't their be contempt as well, with the mouth? Not saying I'm right or trying to prove I'm smart just curious.
úžasné video ;) moc děkuji :) jsem samouk a toto video je skvělí materiál ;)
úžasné in Serbian mean hrozné hahahahahha
I am curious about why does surprise usually come with anger? Is it related to focusing something surprising. Is there a relation between being focused and being angry?
Love these videos. Thank you.
In video 7 you describe 3 emotions. Anger from the eyebrows narrowing down, disgust from the movement around the nose and surprise from the opening of the eyes. But isn't she also showing contempt from her mouth or am i reading that wrong?
It happens during the initial anger expression and not the last.
I always lift my eyebrows in ever social situation since it makes me look more attractive.
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Awesome video thanks for the upload
Excellent videos
Hi Patryk,
Great video and explanations. Thank you for sharing. I like the fact that people in the video are not caucasian, meaning it makes a bit harder to spot micro expressions, but once you learn how to do it you can detect micro expressions on anyone...:)
Wow I learned something new and truly fantastic today 🤩😍
Someone tell me about video 6.. she looks like she is trying to supress a smile.. the cheekbones and the eyes also suggest that.. her face does have a giddy feeling. Can someone tell me the distinguishing feature that thats sadness and not happiness? Feels like 2 things you wouldn't wanna get mixed up.
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I really enjoyed that, after seeing a few I was able to spot within real , thats cool. Thanks.
First one I guess was confusion then surprise. Confusion and anger look similar to me
Odd how I asked someone a bit of a rhetorical a question thinking that they would obviously say no. Although, their initial response provided a noticable micro expression and Freudian slip with partially verbalization of a "Yes!", then quickly followed by the obviously expected professional answer of, "No!". All of which was followed by me vocally stating upon how surprised I was to find out that my what was supposed to be just some random question associated with the overall conversation we were having, not acknowledging the truth of the situation unspoken.
Very good video sir
In video 7, There was also a flash of happiness which was missed. Both the lip corners were twisted up for a split second. Anyone agree?
Yes there was definitely lip corner raising, but that doesn't particularly mean happiness. With my experience, I would have to say that the expression in 7 was not anger but rather a similar expression such as confusion or realisation. A lot of people will smile in these situations, especially those of Asian culture where it is the norm to smile despite the emotion. The expression is not solid anger as brow lowered is not sufficient evidence enough on its own and the expression is not solid happiness as there is no movement of the muscle orbiting the eye and upper cheek.
What does the little twitch of her head mean between contempt and sadness ? (Video 5)
What does it mean that when a person is talking the one side of the mouth is higher which show a crooked mouth???
Video five had a shoulder shrug. What does that mean?
I almost got all of them correct!
Somehow Im a little proud of myself, finally😂😂😂
Por favor traducir este magnífico video en español plis
Cześć Patryk, świetne filmy, pozdrawiam!!! :D
honestly thought the first one was confusion then shocked but nope it was anger. I'm bad at reading facial expressions already 😂
Woohhh!!!! That's incredible!!! :Di love it!
Where or how do y’all look to get an effective read? Pls lmk ASAP I wanna learn that
You can find the basic courses here: microexpressionstrainingvideos.com/pricing
Our Trainer program is here: centerforbodylanguage.com/trainer
Thank you so much
How was this filmed? I mean how do you get people to do smth unvoluntary?
I always get surprise and fear mixed up! In the first video I thought it was anger and fear, however, I now know there is more stress present in the forehand and eyebrows with fear. Do the upper whites of the eyes show more in the fear microexpression too?This has helped me a lot.Thank you.
this is very helpful. Hopefully I will now seem more "human"
Will i get high quality videos like this when i buy your training
of course, these 4K videos are mentioned on our product page: microexpressionstrainingvideos.com/pricing
Are their expressions real and natural? Like the people see photos and react to them? or try they to simulate the expressions?
yes, 100% real
at the moment i just have money for one training
Email support@microexpressionstrainingvideos.com and ask them for a free 1 month trail for METV, so you can try it out at no cost.
I will also test it
Is it possible to perceive MICRO EXPRESSIONS by listening the voice or watch the body language?
Carlos Sandoval yes.
Very Interesting
Patryk, This is a great educational video but these should be called as the Compound Micro-Expressions (CMEX) or Compound Subtle-Expressions (CSEX).