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what pisses me off is that bennett is now back on my teams, he was benched a while back... it started as a meme but bennett really is the real pyro archon...
He's the best Pyro Support. You don't have to be a hater to support him as a support. Pyro Archon does more than 1 million dmg with 1 hit, good luck that with Bennett.
well the thing that separates her with raiden is that her TAP SKILL does a shit ton of damage 10x than raiden's skill. That secures her as an off field pyro applicator in the future
It's only like 40% higher than Raiden skill - 230% every 2s vs 75% every 0.9 seconds. Raiden E will usually have a slightly lower attack frequency, but Mavuika E has less than 100% uptime. It's a large relative improvement, but Raiden wouldn't radically change if she did 40-50% more skill damage.
theory : maybe the reason why they release so many pyro DPSes is because they planned the Pyro archon to be a DPS from the beginning. They did this so that they dont need to make stronger pyro DPSes than Mavuika in the future after her release. If the next pyro character released proves to be a DPS then this theory is wrong but it might be true. Because even for Hydro, a support element, its not 100% dominated by supports, we still have a good balance between supports, sub dps and dpses. Pyro is just too tilted towards main DPSes no matter how DPS-ish the element is
Well this makes sense, considering we're entering the cryo nation and also going to explore new options, chances of a more broken pyro dps is quitteee rare
Natlan is known nation of pyro archon and so far there is only 1 pyro character released and is archon herself So. Considering that cryo archon nation isn't just gonna have cryo so pyros till have chance @@saifshaikh5102
@@saifshaikh5102 Not even dps, pyro has the most characters of all elements, Mavuika could literally be the last pyro unit in the game and it'd still be fair
@apexcrab that's quite unlikely though, we still don't have anyone like benny, plus there's like 3 more years for the game to end, no Pyro unit would be a bit too far. I'd expect atleast 1 unit per year, maybe a support/sub dps for the new meta that will come
Exactly!! Plus you uave that immersion breaking bike! Like, seriously. That aspect of Natalm characters is the only reason that I dislike them. One was a mix of minecraft and kingdom hearts2 with some annoying pixel art on the side, an other just spawns and rides a shark, an other rides a fluffing revolver, and then theese two, ride a bike, and fight/float woth their fluffing pillow. Its juat so ridiculous. The most normal character in natlan is the one that most literary jumped the shark
I never use EM Raiden unless I’m in co op and everyone happens to pick a EM team otherwise I just play her in basically whatever team I want, i got C2 way after she was mid but I’m happy with her, truth is when I was new to the game my plan was to C6 her over time and have her be OP forever but I quickly realized cons pass C3 are not even good enough to justify it but I still use her just as much, and my new plan is to get a new character that has good cons up to C6 I don’t want all these characters I want the characters i like to be good forever lol cons basically do that
I gotta say, so far she's awesome. Yeah, she could be power crept but it won't be for a while. I haven't tried her with Ganyu yet, so I'll do that today. It'll be nice to dust her off and see her deleting my enemies again. The other thing I like about Mavuika that isn't changing is that she's just fun. She's fun in combat, she's fun in exploration, she's got fun idles and a fun design. Felt like a long time coming to get her but worth it. I feel the same way about Raiden Shogun. She's fun, she's easy to use, she's gorgeous. I don't mind if she's not top meta, she's great to play.
absolutely agreed on the fun aspect, & if you like ganyu then you will LOVE the ganyu synergy!!! my salt moreso comes from how previous 5* pyro DPSes have been made far less valuable, but it is what it is. she’ll always be a fun character to play, that’s for sure
Just look at Neuvillette, she's as strong as him even have few kits that Neuvillette like how Mavuika can still being good driver for NA based burst (XQ/Yelan, technically Fischl too). Even if I don't pull Neuvi cos I still do well with Furina and Yelan, doesn't mean we need to discard him being great DPS and he is not powercrept yet, Mualani is just side-gameplay like Yoimiya and Lyney being different style.
If they made her Bike stamina longer or just remove it's cooldown entirely I would have pulled. The bike itself has been very controversial from a design POV but then they go and make it's stamina bar so short it can't even last 3-5 sec outside Natlan. That's what made me not pull her idk how much damage she do. If I'm pulling for a bike I wanna use the full bike. Remove the cooldown
Yeah, the stamina for the bike doesn't last as long as it should. Even in natlan, she does like 25% of what other characters do. Flys for way shorter than chasca, climbs less than xilonen, and surfs shorter distance than mualani. She is a crappy version of all of them. I had the impression that she'd have the exploration capabilities as all of them AND match them, but she doesn't. Idk why everyone is saying her exploration is amazing. It's like they haven't actually played her, and just saw clips of her doing stuff.
Mavuika’s bike basically doubles the amount of time you can spend on traversal if you have the other character. Such as starting to fly with Mavuika, swapping to Chasca, and then back to Mavuika. Sure, I was pretty disappointed with how short the flying, surfing, and climbing bars were, but I do understand why its so short. If it was super long, she would make the other natlan Characters minus Kinich and the Masters of the Nightwind useless. Not even the other archons make the other characters of their nation obsolete once you have them
@@bluefanta6901 none of the other archons have exploration gimmicks. They should have made her exploration match the other natlan characters. If someone doesn't have chasca, mavuika's flying is basically dogwater and worthless. They wouldn't become useless in anything but exploration. The exploration gimmicks should be made for convenience, but mavuika by herself FAILS in this area.
@@villa_art True, the only reason I can use Mavuika’s flight is cause I have Kinich, I have to either use a Saurian or slowly walk as Furina if I want to do anything over water
I took my super broken Pyro% goblet off of Yoimiya this morning and gave it to Mav. It was a solemn affair, felt like the end of an era, but eventually we all have to move on from the things we love.... ....also my Yoi is still top 2% with her backup goblet so she'll live (for IT at least)
Idk all I see is raiden copy with no need for all the stats known in game. similar burst and skill and higher multiplier for the burst and skill and has vape and melt whereas raiden doesn’t
Natlan main DPS all have very and I mean very interesting gameplay loops but we get to the Archon and it’s back to press button with no pre-requisite do big damage
@Juice-chan I have a fully broken c3 Raiden and the amount of extra damage my half built c2 Mav does, without Citlali even on field yet, is insane. My Raiden is still more than good enough for anything I need her to do, but Mavuika's scaling is just off the charts.
Is anyone going to talk about how her current team is probably the best she'll ever be compared to other carries. Its incredibly HARD to replace Xilonen and Citlali in her teams. Like to the point Furina is a downgrade. Most other dps can use non natlan supports but she will have issues with that.
her extreme reliance and synergy with the natlan mechanic pretty much guarantees the only way to replace anyone in her party is with someone else from natlan who does the same but better
@Badkhela exactly c1. Arguments like these are made on c0r0. Otherwise, I can also say stuff like " my ayaka can also deal the same amount of damage she just deeds c6r1 (or whatever)." Its the exact design as Acheron in hsr. You need multiple copies to get rid of weird arbitrary kit restrictions.
An additional risk that Mavuika will face once Snezhnaya comes around is that she will be getting much fewer if any synergistic characters that use Nightsoul after that point. Frankly she might not get even get much of anything in Natlan unless they actually powercreep Bennett at once, since I doubt they can replace Xilonen or Citlali this fast.
i don't think stronger characters being released is a problem when the character being power crept is already overpowered, until hoyoverse just decides to multiply the absurd health of abyss bosses even more (which i can see, unfortunately)
Juice, unintentionally, exposed one of the biggest problems of powercreep: you will eventually bench your favorite characters because they're not viable anymore. Then... Why even bother pulling, specially when you don't even have good end content?
her burst ATK buff is underrated, i slotted her in my wrio team with furina and my wrio damage skyrocketed doing 176k CA now. AND her C1 makes her elemental skill uptime 100%
she has that???? omg, I haven't played wriothesley much because I've been waiting for the pyro archon for him. I'm so glad to hear it works out so well. I knew that NA's working for her burst were a benefit. I kind of wish I got her c1 now, but whatever, she'll be back.
the problem with using an offfield mavuika is the same as you craving so bad for sweets, so you ordered a delicious full course meal, threw out the appetizer and main dish, and ate just the desserts. it's delicious but it's such a waste. you might be better off buying a couple of icecreams or cakes from a dessert shop instead.
@@mikkunmikkichi3762 But we're not. We're boxing up the appetizer and main dish, taking it home, and going to eat it later when we feel like it. We STILL get to have DPS Mavuika, it's not like it magically gets thrown in the trash because we feel like using the skill option once in a while for a different character.
@@lulufortytwo3884 that plus the cinder city artifact gives a noticeable damage increase, AND the bonus that wrio naturally normal attacks A LOT so you can easily charge up her burst fighting spirit again for next rotation; basically 100% uptime
i don't think we have much to worry about in terms of power creep. especially since the nation of cryo is on the way. with her off field capabilities, she'll be able to fit in teams as a more comfortable xiangling slot, and that matters a lot because xiangling is outstanding even still because of this exact reason. she may fall off in terms of a dps, but she'll always have a place no matter what
I'd imagine we get more teams that can come close to Mavuika's level of damage in Snezhnaya though. But I REALLY think it's for the best if they don't try to keep releasing melt-related cryo units and make a character that changes freeze to be something damage-oriented that works on bosses (maybe some type of debuff). That's my ideal Tsaritsa design tbh. Just have her single-handedly bring back freeze.
Mavuika's off field damage and application is her saving grace, but also her greatest vulnerability. It would be very easy to Powercreep this aspect, as so little of her power budget went there.
Since they were so scared to make mavuika COMPLETELY powercreep xiangling off field I have a feeling this is the best we're gonna get, but it's still a net xiangling upgrade in dmg, ease of use and comfort so it's not horrible
Her combat is fun, but also, her bike is amazing for exploration even outside of Natlan. Is it severely handicapped in other places? Yes. But that doesn't change the fact that she makes exploration faster in other regions. She can climb, jetski, and hover everywhere. It makes exploring other places that felt "too out of the way" far more manageable. I avoided exploring Liuye because the mountains combined with slow climbing animations made exploration there a chore. Now I'm finding chests and puzzles I missed when I first started a few months back.
Her combat is fun? She literally drives in circles... Try playing a game with actual good gameplay like devil may cry or bayonetta or metal gear rising or any action game that isn't genshin. Her gameplay is literal trash. I won't be pulling for her and will instead save for arlecchino. Trash tier character.
I think the nightsoul dependency is a huge logistic for Mavuika aging out in the future, it will be harder and harder for her to get new supports. Whereas Raiden mains benefitted from Chevreuse enormously in fontaine (even Emilie!) and Xilonen in Natlan, i was able to clear the new abyss second half with my raiden national team still because of how much that team benefits from investment over time. I dont think there is a dps character on my account who has stood the test of time more than the electro archon!
she buffed kinich & ganyu tho, so even if she's mostly a dps i'm happy enough. enjoy the vid folks! ZZZ 2nd channel; www.youtube.com/@juiceisontheloose
sure she can fill that role but she feels so barebones. no defensive utility at all, grouping, no buffing or any interesting mechanics or interactions she's just there to apply an instance of pyro and that's it. she feels so bland in that role. compare that to Furina or Nahida and what they brought to the team for their respective elements and roles. I wanted her to fit a slot on my ganyu teams too and maybe even enable some other silly fun comps like a vape barbara but she doesn't consolidate anything into her and doesn't enable much team diversity beyong being a more reliable pyro enabler than 400er xiangling
Like Mavuika is literally the best Natlan exploration unit, having everything besides the Master of the Night and Scions of the Canopy movement. Her E-skill is good enough to replace Xiangling for pyro application and her Burst does stupid amounts of damage. The only issue with Mavuika is that she needs Natlan units to get her burst to recharge easily. It was painful to try to use Mavuika in team comps for Imaginuim Theater without a Natlan character in that team.
My Problem with Mavuivka is following 1: Her Ult is So Strong that She One-Shot Everything and Everyone into Oblivion and when the Enemys Died you Have to recharge her ult again in the next fight and that leads to the problem that she either does too little damage without setup or far too much damage with setup and in the long run it becomes more annoying than helpful. 2: Your stupid Swiss pocket motorcycle that can legitimately fly, swim, climb and even seems to have a life of its own. (Anyone who has played the Archron Quest will understand what I mean). 3: Their performance is so absurd that other characters feel absolutely subpar, which only leads to massive dissatisfaction among players. 4: Save will start MHY the HP in such absurd dimensions that other units can no longer keep up and you have to pull other units to keep up. Man Natlan feels like a fever dream. (And not a good one)
Can you imagine someone losing 50/50 to dehya And next time losing 50/50 to tenari And .losing a 5star character on a standard banner to a sword Could never be me
Well, if Mavuika will be powercrept 2 years from now then it means that most chars in Genshin before her like Hutao & Yoimiya will be more powercrept than her at that time. And she still have her support buff & strong pyro application with almost 100% uptime so she will still be usable at that time. Plus I already enjoyed using her for 2 years when that time comes so no regrets, like how I already enjoyed using Arlecchino throughout the 2nd half of Fontaine up to now in Natlan, so its now time for an upgrade to Mavuika.
This is what happens when u follow meta. A ch will be powercrept for a game power leveling to progress and meta players will keep getting fomo and will keep spending. So be satisfied with your units and don't be paranoid of being powercrept
A healthy way of looking at gacha/gambling games is like this. I'm not a sheep, and too old for this feeling that I'm being controlled/manipulated (watch Let's Go Whaling video) to keep excited about something that is 'better.'
I think you're flatout ignoring shoguns battery capabilities, which correlates to Mavuikas dmg buff, also while not very popular with players both of them can play the role of an actual sub-dps (different from off field dps) where they use their burst during the main (on field dps) downtime, while not the easiest teams to propely plan around they're very fun to play
i would not call her main dps her primary role but its certainly her most flashy & popular one among the playerbase, her subdps/pyro applier/buffer playstyle is nothing short of amazing while avaliable AND optimal from the get go, needing no other natlan character to be at full usage, while her main dps role is tied with super glue to xilonen and citlali. her main dps role is the one i can see aging somewhat poorly as the game progress but her base role of buffer/applier/sub-dps is ageless unless hoyo decides to dial power creep up to 11 where all things mavuika brings (constant pyro app, scroll buff, dmg buff for active char, big area dmg without needing energy funelling) could be somehow considered "not enough" to be top tier
Idk but don't her off field buff need her burst to be applied? Also her main dps role gonna stay solid for long enough cause she have some of higher multiplyer in game and to powercreep that they need to pump out dozen of character that outscales her which result in people favoring her off field more then on field For now her on field dps bring so much value that using her as sub dps feels stupid ( provided you have xilonen for her burst uptime
Idk but don't her off field buff ( not the artifact one but her kit one) need her burst to be applied? Also her main dps role gonna stay solid for long enough cause she have some of higher multiplyer in game and to powercreep that they need to pump out dozen of character that outscales her which result in people favoring her off field more then on field For now her on field dps bring so much value that using her as sub dps feels stupid ( provided you have xilonen for her burst uptime
I'll be real here, if her main DPS role "ages poorly" it will mean the death of every pre 5.3 character in the game. She's outdamaging everyone I have by a hilariously significant margin, even without optimal gear/team. Powercreeping past what she can do as a main DPS would just be an immediate death knell. ...though my devil's advocate part does say "they said they wanted to get back to their HI3 roots...."
Just did my first dmg screenshot with mav, citlali, xilonen and bennett hitting 756k. Safe to say this with my neuv and arle makes me set till 6.x. For future I will be saving for for one-two of these things: C3 xilonen Skirk (if she is an element that isnt pyro or hydro) Mav cons Childe Hopium that they make Thrain/Cap playable in later version even though he is "dead" just for playability reasons.
Skirk will most probably be the new element that they teased(worse to worse cryo with some special shenanigans) also cap might come in the future in the story, but I doubt he'll be playable, atleast not before the final arc of teyvat
@@saifshaikh5102 she has been leaked by a pretty reliable leaker to be a cryo unit, but I rlly have no clue how they got that info since they also said she's dropping in 5.7
I really hate the fact that kinich little things don’t count as normal attacks it felt like a match made in heaven but it counts as normal attacks with yelan
i expecting her kit to be same as furina where she can put all her team into nightsoul state, so that even non natlan characters can use her, natlan artifacts and make the exploration outside Natlan even longer
She didn't replace xiangling or Bennett and she's basically a stronger pyro shogun... With the ability to turn into her burst state with her skill but much much weaker. All showcases include citlali, I think we should be looking at citlali here!
The only good thing i could see about Mavuika being a main DPS is that now if Hoyo want make any more Pyro dps they would have to compared to the archon. Who i assume they don't want to powercreep. That might force hoyo to FINALLY release the Pyro supports/sub DPS we have been waiting years to get.
Being Dps isnt her biggest flaw. In most games DPS can get powercrept but Mauvika at least has supportive gimmicks (if nothing else, exploration usefulness)so that she is still relevant. Her biggest problem is reliance on Nightsoul Mechanics. She is forced to bring natlan characters in the team. This means when 6.0 + drops and new gimmick systems get released, Mauvika will not be getting new teammates. It will get harder and harder to bring her given her reliance on Natlan characters which at some point will not be releasing as often.
I agree that her supportive capabilities should have been better. She should have been on the pyro application level of Xiangling or at lease close and her burst should have been better as a buff. However I wouldn't say she powercrept all pyro dps characters. I would probably say she's very close to Arlecchino in turns of dps. Or at least that's what it feels like to me. Her dps is just more concentrated to the start of her dps window.
TBH, I would have loved to see the tap e skill of Mavuika as part of Arlechino kit, so Mavuika could be something completely different and not competition to the past top Pyro DPS. The way it is, I do think that mavuika will have a great shelf life, but arlechino will have the same destiny as Hu Tao in a while: be a great unity but clearly powercrept
I can't find my original comment to respond to, but to touch on the bennett thing - I find it absurd how afraid they were of creeping XL & Bennett and we're only just now getting a XL replacement. Its honestly kind of irritating that we're gonna be in Shneznaya and Bennett will still be a pretty mandatory support. Why is it they creep Arlecchino after 5 patches, but can't creep Bennett after 4 and a half years
I agree that she's a pyro Raiden, which unlike Raiden is unlikely to get many buffs once Natlan is finished. But there are somethings to be said about her off-field capabilities : -her off-field is more valuable than Raiden's. Because Pyro > Electro and we have less options too. -her burst's support is front loaded. Raiden needs the field time to recharge everyone else's energy, which isn't the most valuable buff in the game either. -her pyro application isn't dependent on normal attacks, so she can be played with any DPS. All of this to say, I think Mavuika's off-field kit is far from bad. Right now we can't really use it because Mavuika it's a loss of DPS but in the future, she'll still be usable. Also, her C1 and C2 buff her support nicely, 18s uptime and defense shred is far from bad for her.
Another thing that will keep Mauvika relevant is cinder city, this on top of her off fielding potential and up to 40% damage boost from ult will probably keep her nice and useful, even for anemo dps
Honestly im quite glad her exploration doesn’t just straight out power creep the other natlan units (chasca on top). But i still think she has my least favourite archon kit design. Forcing u to pull limited natlan supports just to charge her ult is rlly cringe compared to how furina can use 4 star healers just fine or how nahida can literally be ur only dendro and still be good.
my Mualani literally could not clear Abyss despite 9/8 skill and Burst 40k plus HP and 230 CRIT DMG with Xiangling bc I just could not vape consistently bc her burst was just such a chore to get making sure she picked up particles and having 280 ER It took me ONE DAY with Mavuika for my Mualani to finally clear😭 like seriously she’s that much of a help lol not to mention she still hits 100-200k as a quick swap burst in that team and 500-700k when i play her on field😭
The way I see it is that every character has its flaws and I THINK a lot of people issues with her are being overblown for other reasons I will say her being locked to Natlan supports is annoying BUT I do think we will get a Artefact set that will enable Nightsoul for all characters (Just makes to much sense for me) I am guessing it will be a support set where when you use your skill , you enter nightsoul and get some buffs Does she have Flaws ? Yes Are they being overblowm? In my opinion yes, I feel as if she is being used as a banner for EVERYONES issue with Natlan Ive seen so many people straight up lie or misconstrue data For example that one guy who goes into every Mauv video and shouts about Genshins CN sales being down yet ignores ALL gatcha is down in CN What I am trying to say is that the community has become extra toxic since Late Fontaine , Remember all the hate for Emilie ?
the problem with her is as a DPS she cannot sustain herself independent of others and is heavily reliant on Natlan characters... if these characters fall off when future supports are released she will not be buffed... unlike Neuvillette or Arlecchino who can self sustain and can function regardless of the supports they have hence making them viable regardless of the meta. she on the other hand will not be able to adapt to changes... and that is problematic for a DPS character.... the reason why so many 1.x DPS are still strong to this day is because they can function outside of their supports.... Mavuika just cannot. she is glued to Citlali and Xilonen and when they go down she goes down with them.
2:10 Actually Raiden is still in the competition thanks to Furina and Chevreuse. She is not the best dps anymore for sure but she is still the best dps electro (better than Clorinde and Yae) and her support capabilities are still welcome. But yes, with the arrival of Mavuika, there is a problem because all the 5 stars pyro characters are all dps. Why will I pull for Lyney in a game where Mavuika and Arlecchino exist.
Wait, what is a Flicker Quickbloom? And is there a list somewhere of the “titled” teams? I remember when the only titled teams were Morgana, National and International. The rest were pretty much named after reactions or Main DPS. Though I very much like the concept of the titles. I got lost when every guidemaker started talking about Thundering Furry without explaining what it is, hence I would really appreciate a list / a guide on these titles.
The one thing I would do to 'fix' the whole natlan characters being dependent on nightsoul and other natlan characters is change cinder city so that all characters can use the full kit and that it means that those same characters have a nightsoul meter while the buff is active or something along that line cause having Kachina and pyro traveller is kinda annoying especially with those new sheild things
aaah, so glad to hear some talk about Ganyu. I immediately tried it out and it seemed like promising even though I know I had the wrong artifacts for it's full potential.
I was hoping that Mavuika would be Bennett + Xiangling. Off-field Pyro + buffing + healing. Sadly, we _still_ don't have a healing Archon that doesn't lose the entire point of their kit (Furina) or requires a special weapon (Nahida). But the Tsaritsa is supposed to be the Archon of love, so maybe she'll step in.
8:08 The only problem with that statement is why would anybody pull for Baizhu over Nahida or Emilie over Nahida unless you just really like that character. Baizhu isn't as good as a dendro applicator compared to Nahida and doesn't buff as much either. Sure Nahida doesn't do much for Burning team aside from keeping thr burn going, but Emilie doesn't either. Emilie's whole kit is making herself hit hard when there's a burning target. You can make the case of Baizhh having shield or Emilie having better dmg output in burning, but again this brings me back to my original statement. Why would use pull for Baizhu or Emilie over Nahida. Other than Burning, Nahida is the best dendro subdps and support so there's no reason for someone to pull for Baizhu or Emilie (again, unless you really like those characters) when the priority should be Nahida. Especially since both characters release during the end of 3.x and transitioning over to 4.x nobody is summoning for Baizhu and Emilie.
Ok, genuinely i don't understand how you can say mavuika powercreeps arle when arle's whole stick in the first place is being a very versatile pyro dps that works in every team. Melt, vape, mono pyro, overload genuinely anything while still not being tied to another 5*. Same with hu tao when arle first came out, people said arle powercreeps hu tao when arle herself doesn't even vape regularly, imo hu tao is still the best pyro dps for specifically vape with double hydro. SAME THING with mualani and neuvillete situation. Does mualani have higher number than neuvillete? Technically yea. Does she powercreeps him? No, most people even still agree neuvi is the top dps just because he is so braindead to use. Every dps in this game is just a different playstyle so you can pick and choose what you like. Nuke and burst damage per screenshot? Go for mav and mualani. Consistent damage and braindead ease of use? Go for neuvillete and arle. 10k of dps difference is enough to be considered dps powercreep nowadays HOLYYYYY you want real powercreep? Albedo and chiori IS real powercreep. What's next? Hoyo releases columbina as a cryo dps that has 3k more damage than ayaka and wrio then you all will say omg ayaka and wrio is unusable now💀💀💀
I prefer braindead comfy gameplay, have neuv, won't pull mualani. Also was bit debating whether to pull for mav of arle but arle just seems the better one for me, for my preferred gameplay style
People always focus on OMG BIG DAMAGE PER SCREENSHOT and forget about the ACTUAL practicality of doing it on abyss. You can't even 1 shot nuke basically every abyss boss at C0 and then at second rotation because arle has leftover BoL she does more damage. Then how about C2 or C6 you asked? At that point does it even matter if you do 10M or 9M damage when the enemy has 3M HP holy shit. Or people who said zhongli is useless and is a dps loss. Yea, yea he is a dps loss but then can you dodge primo geovishap perfectly and NOT losing dps because dodging is technically also a dps loss. Not everything is about number, holy fuck the genshin community is either braindead about numbers or braindead about racism.
@kanicunny my first banner I pulled on was zhongli's(unfortunately I lost the 50/50) but when I got him on his rerun, man the comfort he provides is unbeatable. Also the flexibility Neuvillete has matters more than the sweaty high dmg numbers(even though he has high damage numbers). Same with Arlecchino, her flexibility and ramp is quite good in abyss, and honestly what thing lasts long enough in the overworld anyways?
@saifshaikh5102 Exactly, less dps this, more dps that, is everyone a robot with perfect 0.1ms execution? Jesus sometimes these CC glazes a unit so much like a dicksucker while also downplaying the others so much like they're trash on the side of the street
I don't think she will be powercrept anytime soon considering the next archon is the cryo one, so she could be easily another cryo character that somehow will have some synergy with Mavuika herself, so she will be even stronger, just like Raiden works just fine with Nahida
Don't forget about her exploration capabilities, she is undauntedly one of the best characters if not the best for exploration And if you are a Whale and get her C6, no one is better than her bc she can ride her bike forever and the special stamina bar for water, air and climb is extended by a lot
The issue with Raiden is that we haven't seen a SINGLE burst reliant proper sub dps since Yelan. All Raiden needs to be "meta" or close to it again is a 1 or 2 STRONG sub dps characters with 70+ burst costs with majority of their kit being about dealing damage with their burst. Yelan, XQ and XL are the only characters that truly synergize with everything Raiden has to offer and while they are good, none of them are really good enough to carry her teams hard enough anymore to compete as the damage ceiling has been steadily increasing. Imagine another electro sub dps who has the same 18s CD and 90 burst cost as Raiden and is all about doing tons of damage off field with their burst. Assuming that character does meta levels of damage in any team, that character would go crazy in a team with Raiden as she would allow for much less ER. So I wouldn't really say that Raiden has "fallen off" in terms of potentially valuable kit, it's just that she has never been truly realized as a character as she IS a support character as well as a dps/driver. She just has no one of note to support to this day.
my current favorite ganyu setup is burnmelt with mavuika, nahida and xilonen. i actually didnt even think to put bennett in there because my head is still suck in the bennet xiangling pyro app era. that said, nahida has em sharing for ganyu and i think that makes up quite abit of the dmg loss from not using bennett. ill try out bennet/ganyu/mav/xilonen team
I feel like Mavuika should be buffed so that those Nightsoul Aligned shields are easily dealt with by her/one-shotted by Mavuika. It would've sold her a lot more if one E tap or 3 slaps from her motorcycle was enough to negate the Papila's nightsoul shield
This might be controversial but I find c6 Mavuika to be more versatile buffer than a c6 furina cuz furina gives upto a 125% dmg bonus + sub dps (mostly single target) while mavuika is giving 50% dmg (90 with scroll) + 40 def shred + sub dps (better aoe), def shred being much rarer than dmg% makes it more useful, she also makes a case for being the best carry alongside Neuvillete/Mualani/Arlecchino while furina is quite behind her in that regard.....
@LeaTw3403 cinder city is going to be better than supportive set furina can run, but you're right key of khaj is bis on c6 furina, it's just that if they make a better buffer than mavuika it would also be better than furina.....
So to assuage so of yalls worries and also to kinda give some insight on teams since people thing bennet is best. For Mavuika she is probably going to see a Long Long life on top of the dps pile we can tell by how hard they've gone on her kit her lore and overall marketing someone was allowed to cook and they ain't done with the kitchen yet so lets be expectant instead of worrying over something that isn't even here yet enjoy the moment. Now for teams Pyro traveler is Tailor made to synergize with mavuika run 1 hyro or 1 cryo things go boom with both mavuika and travelers fire skills popping and pyro traveler can keep 100% uptime of nightsoul blessing when played right XD
Used kinich, mavuika, bennett and baizhu with the dendro set and citlalis weapon. Kinich hit 411k with his first shot. Mavuikas been such a blessing. Also got her to hit 1.1 million dmg melt with diona c6 with r2 elegy. Bennett, and xilonen. Love her so far.
Don't know why people are not playing Kinich, he is the best DPS right now, i have almost all the characters and he kills bosses way faster than others . Mualani is good too but its only her first elemental skill that deals a lot of damage, Kinich deals constant damage and has a burst that keeps going too .
is it a good idea to pull her for kinich then? ill probably get her on her rerun but even though i dont care for her as a character or her playstyle, im willing to learn if its for kinichs sake. i saw someone say investing in his c2 is better but idk
@chudsterbudster2549 Its mostly just for having a cooler team and Mauvika deals more damage than Thoma as support but Kinich already deals so much damage u can have Mauvika on the other abyss team, i have Kinich C2 r1 and he deals about 100 K more damage each Constellation until u get to C3 after that u gain less damage until C6 , but who the hell goes for a C6 character, waste of primos. When i have Mauvika C2 and Kinich C2 on the same team it just feels like they are both fighting over who does most damage, i don't understand why they had to make her a DPS, it would have made more sense to make her support , then Mualani and Kinich would feel like they where made to play with her (EVEN THE ARTIFACTS PROMOTES HAVING NATLAN CHARACTERS TOGHETER) Anyways i still love Kinich after getting Muavika and will go for his C3 next re run, but wont go C3 for Mauvika, that should tell u everything u need to know xD Feels like they ditched the Kinich and Mualani support and just focused on getting Mualani and Citlali to be the new duo, But you decide who to pull for, im a noob so maybe someone knows more than me.
@Asle_Kaspersen no i share the same sentiment bc i was really hoping theyd make mavuika more of an off-field support bc we really don't need more pyro dps' and we have like 3 off-field supports, 2 pretty niche. and she's better with natlan units, so even if i wanted to do vape neuvi or navia support it wouldnt be much different than if i used xiangling anyway (plus i heard xiangling has better pyro application; i truly believe she and benny are the pyro archons like wth). so id really just be using her for kinich. idk im just disappointed in her kit 😔
@chudsterbudster2549 yeah, and i hated Bennet from the start, i refused to play him, he is such a boring character, Xiangling was cool and fun at least, but man after 4 years I'm still stuck with play boring old characters or suffer damage wise, i was really hoping Bennet would be gone after i got Mauvika, nope now he is even better than before.
They did Raiden dirty by not releasing all that many off-field dps that synergize well with her. Only Yae and Yelan fits the bill. Off-field units that comes later doesn't even care about ER requirements anymore. Raiden needs more Yelan, amazing unit with amazing number that's gated by disgusting ER requirements.
I couldve seen a bit of healin added to her kit or the ability to revive natlan characters since thats in the story. Im really happy with her as is, a little more support capability would be nice, but Natlan is far from over. I cant wait to see how the other units work with her! 😁
My problem is like the old 'diluc showcase' somebody made where yelan did 99% of the work. i want to use her as off field pyro app for mualani, but playing the team optimally would probably be ignoring mualani completely and just fielding her as dps and using the other 2 as supports.
As someone who got and mained Raiden from ar45 during the sumeru times and c3r1 her in this recent banner, i was so surprised mavuika having somewhat an identical kit to raiden. When i saw her in the first natlan ignition trailer, i made up my mind to main her when she releases. Even my unbuild Mavuika is doing what raiden does in c3. I would still use both but Mavuika is hands down the best character in terms of everything now. Still few natlan characters are left to be released which might buff her more or maybe not. But to put her out of meta, hoyo have to bring down the whole pyro element. I think even in Snezhnaya, she would be relevant for both her support and dmg capabilities ..............also she is such a HOT BIKER MOMMY SHE'LL ALWAYS BE ON TOP FRR
I remember thinking over the last two years gee I can’t wait for natlan to get a new off field pyro user to replace Bennett and low and behold the only pyro unit it looks like we’re getting this year and she wants Bennett on her teams. I have zero interest in using mavuika on field ever I have Hu Tao and Arlecchino for that I don’t care if mavuika is better than them on field I want pyro off fields . Sucks even more it looks like we’re not getting Xbalanque or pyro sovereign either as playable characters. I’m also baffled after four years Bennett remains the only pyro sword user if you don’t count the traveller
I like her being a dps as it fits her character being the god of war obviously she'll be a dps/hard hitter. Besides it's nice to finally have a main dps archon, not one where you use a burst or skill and then never see them again until time runs out. I understand Raiden and Nahida could technically be main dps but it really depends on teams as with Mavuika it's her main kit. Also I do understand the hate she gets for when she absolutely needs Natlan but again it fits her character as no one in Natlan fights alone and she's always there to help you. Should they ha e made it an absolute? Not really maybe at least allow other characters to give a decent amount of energy just not a lot and it would be fine but again I understand why they made her that way
I regret skipping Xilonen and I’m scrambling to get Citlali after saving everything for Mavuika! So many premium characters needed for her teams and I have mostly Natlan characters.
After wuaa has come out with a gadget letting you fly for free im just dissapointed with how scummy it is for hoyo to lock basic movement options behind a paywall. Doesnt help with how bad flying with the saurians are
We'll never see a Support Pyro again. -If they're weaker than Bennett no one will pull because they have Bennett -If they're as strong as Bennett no one will pull because they have Bennett* -If they're stronger than Bennett they break the game * = Unless it's an INSANELY hot/cute waifu character that they make the player fall in love with in some weird parasocial way like they did with Firefly in HSR
Everyone pulling for archon, while I'm just sitting for keqing banner. I was gonna consider depending on how much she powercrept chasca (i pulled her only for natlan travels), seeing how she performs makes me sleep well. I think 1.x electro vs pyro kicks in lol
Doesn't matter if raiden is the worst or not, her pulling out the sword is the only thing keeping me in the game till now. Natlan feels so boring and the characters don't even match the genshin world. It is a filler region. Flying guns and swimming bikes. Story is meh...Hope shenznaya is better.
So correct me if I'm wrong. At C0, Mavuika's off-field pyro application( Tap Skill) is significantly worse compared Raiden Shogun's off-field electro application. You need Mavuika C1 to be on par with Raiden's C0 off- field application.
Their elements have different reaction thus making them can't be replaced by the other in most team they support in The only time it is a problem is when you try using them to trigger bloom core which just use kuki man
Raiden's skill has icd, so it can only apply electro every 3rd hit (or every 2.7 secs in Raiden's case) So mavuika has better application than her cos she has no icd ☠️
(Not a complaint) It’s entirely a skill issue but I die ten times more as her than i ever did with Arle. I never notice getting hit as Mavuika when borrowing my friends, eventually I just drop dead mid spin because I’m too literally blind to see my health bar a lot of the time. And personally I just… really don’t like how she feels to play. I love the bike and character but she kinda feels bad to use In combat. Which is fine, of course. Hope everyone got lucky with pulls or will if they continue to try for her. And I definitely would have pulled if she had more supportive capabilities. Since that would sidestep what i just said above and give me another option for pyro related teams alongside Guoba’s minion.
A fundamental Mavuika flaw for me is that from behind her hair looks like she is wearing a pumpkin octopus on her head. I know it's stupid and trivial but it bugs me 😂🐙
Honestly people are really wrong on mavuika aging poorly. Her current best team is not ideal at all. Citlali has a lot of her budget in being a cinder city holder and having TTDS, beyond that her kit only shreds 20% RES and applies cryo. Xilonen is all you need for Mavuika so she has an easy upgrade in a future cryo off fielder like maybe the cryo archon. Bennett also doesn't need to be on her team, he just is currently the best option. Bennett provides a lot of atk, the stat that mavuika already has the most of. If Mavuika could run furina and citlali at once she would but thanks to shatter being a thing she cant. So a pyro DMG% buffer would be a stronger buffer than bennett for her. Her cons also change her longevity a lot as she becomes a support on the level of furina with C2 onward.
I liked your video, also I'm glad unlike lots of people who say (idk how or with which evidence) that mavuika is first dps archon but I'm very curious about cryo archon, because until this point we had dhp archon in each role, venti zhongli sup, raiden mauvika main dps with off field application, nahida furina sub dps and buffer. I really want to know which role cryo archon gonna be. Also happy new year 😊 (I also have question, do you know between kazuha c0 r1 and xilonen c0 r1 which one buff more? To be exact I just care about my favorite char raiden and I don't have xilonen bcuz I saved my guranted for mavuika, which one of them at constellation 0 with signature weapon and artifact set buff dmg more) couldn't found a video on UA-cam
I got a hyperbloom team but I'm having trouble deciding on a second abyss team. Could someone name some examples? Im F2P but I have furina, yelan, mavuika,raiden, wanderer, jean and kazuha five stars that im not using in hyperbloom and the general good 4 stars. I have 240 wishes so I can get a new character
Her burst using fighting spirit is a double edged sword. While it makes her easy to play with natlan 5 stars, she's really not that impressive without them specially Xilonen. Yes ,normal attacks can fill up her burst but not entirely and her burst scales off of fighting spirit so it deals significantly less damage to the point that the Arlecchino teams perform better.
Ah...I'm still so sad about what come have been (for both getting to actually play her/her abilities) and our Beloved Captain, my Capatin I'll stay strong~
@Juice-chan its so sad that we see her shining in all her flaming glory throughout the arc and yet in reality, don't truly get to experience that in normal gameplay! I wanted fire bursts/flames/etc I was not even expecting/wanting a dragon or more, just to have her claymore and fire abilities (ironically, a bit more like how Pyro Traveler's abilities appear with flinging fire from the sword). Where is my Sol Invictus? We got a Harley instead T_T I know I'm still salty about the bike but it seems fun though, I had a nice enough time in the trial. I still don't understand why if they went this route that they didn't make the bike an even better all terrain/region vehicle - I could justify getting her then at least if she would support exploration outside Natlan but the fact they stripped that and her support capabilities from her is just tough to swallow. I don't know man, the bike genuinely seems somewhat more of a "quick gimmick" even in the plot (coming out of no where, little to no rationale) and it felt more forced in there to justify it being in Mavuika's kit/for a sale. Basically it just felt so unnecessary and forced to me and even though it can be a cool aesthetic for some and I'm thrilled so many people are enjoying her, its just...the way some characters and decisions in Natlan were made...leaves a hollow impression to me. I'm hoping an "Ode to Resurrection" and the Captain's Messianic motifs exist for a reason ;)
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what pisses me off is that bennett is now back on my teams, he was benched a while back...
it started as a meme but bennett really is the real pyro archon...
He is not the pyro archon. He is the pyro sovereign.
Say that aggain...
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Try Zhongli, Mavuika, Xilonen and Citlali. 1 million dpr. Works as a charm.🎉
He's the best Pyro Support.
You don't have to be a hater to support him as a support.
Pyro Archon does more than 1 million dmg with 1 hit, good luck that with Bennett.
I dont understand benny hate
well the thing that separates her with raiden is that her TAP SKILL does a shit ton of damage 10x than raiden's skill. That secures her as an off field pyro applicator in the future
and in addition to this Pyro has Vape and Melt. While most c0 raiden users use hyperbloom to give raiden's E a shit ton of dmg as well
i dont have mavuika yet but this defo means she would be a good support for future cryo characters doing big melts
It's good but 6 hit feels very less , even furina have higher up time on her skill
It's only like 40% higher than Raiden skill - 230% every 2s vs 75% every 0.9 seconds. Raiden E will usually have a slightly lower attack frequency, but Mavuika E has less than 100% uptime. It's a large relative improvement, but Raiden wouldn't radically change if she did 40-50% more skill damage.
@ryuk6795 what do you mean " even furina", furina has a crazy long uptime on her skill lol
theory : maybe the reason why they release so many pyro DPSes is because they planned the Pyro archon to be a DPS from the beginning. They did this so that they dont need to make stronger pyro DPSes than Mavuika in the future after her release. If the next pyro character released proves to be a DPS then this theory is wrong but it might be true. Because even for Hydro, a support element, its not 100% dominated by supports, we still have a good balance between supports, sub dps and dpses. Pyro is just too tilted towards main DPSes no matter how DPS-ish the element is
Well this makes sense, considering we're entering the cryo nation and also going to explore new options, chances of a more broken pyro dps is quitteee rare
Natlan is known nation of pyro archon and so far there is only 1 pyro character released and is archon herself
So. Considering that cryo archon nation isn't just gonna have cryo so pyros till have chance @@saifshaikh5102
@@saifshaikh5102 Not even dps, pyro has the most characters of all elements, Mavuika could literally be the last pyro unit in the game and it'd still be fair
@apexcrab that's quite unlikely though, we still don't have anyone like benny, plus there's like 3 more years for the game to end, no Pyro unit would be a bit too far. I'd expect atleast 1 unit per year, maybe a support/sub dps for the new meta that will come
of course they did. in the tutorials pyro is described as the dps element.
I have the same problem for sub-dps Mavuika that I have with hyperbloom Raiden, sure it works but it doesn't feel like I'm using their kit fully
Exactly!!
Plus you uave that immersion breaking bike!
Like, seriously. That aspect of Natalm characters is the only reason that I dislike them.
One was a mix of minecraft and kingdom hearts2 with some annoying pixel art on the side, an other just spawns and rides a shark, an other rides a fluffing revolver, and then theese two, ride a bike, and fight/float woth their fluffing pillow.
Its juat so ridiculous.
The most normal character in natlan is the one that most literary jumped the shark
I never use EM Raiden unless I’m in co op and everyone happens to pick a EM team otherwise I just play her in basically whatever team I want, i got C2 way after she was mid but I’m happy with her, truth is when I was new to the game my plan was to C6 her over time and have her be OP forever but I quickly realized cons pass C3 are not even good enough to justify it but I still use her just as much, and my new plan is to get a new character that has good cons up to C6 I don’t want all these characters I want the characters i like to be good forever lol cons basically do that
@@lefterismplanas4977 Most common tourist take. You are blindsided to Sumeru being that advanced too.
@@lefterismplanas4977People are still hung up on the BIKE??
@@herbertcoxe3601 yeah then get Furina or Mavuika to C6
I gotta say, so far she's awesome. Yeah, she could be power crept but it won't be for a while. I haven't tried her with Ganyu yet, so I'll do that today. It'll be nice to dust her off and see her deleting my enemies again.
The other thing I like about Mavuika that isn't changing is that she's just fun. She's fun in combat, she's fun in exploration, she's got fun idles and a fun design. Felt like a long time coming to get her but worth it. I feel the same way about Raiden Shogun. She's fun, she's easy to use, she's gorgeous. I don't mind if she's not top meta, she's great to play.
absolutely agreed on the fun aspect, & if you like ganyu then you will LOVE the ganyu synergy!!! my salt moreso comes from how previous 5* pyro DPSes have been made far less valuable, but it is what it is. she’ll always be a fun character to play, that’s for sure
@Juice-chan And it's a fair point. Arlecchino barely got done receiving their flowers as top Pyro DPS before Mavuika ran Father over with her bike.
Just look at Neuvillette, she's as strong as him even have few kits that Neuvillette like how Mavuika can still being good driver for NA based burst (XQ/Yelan, technically Fischl too). Even if I don't pull Neuvi cos I still do well with Furina and Yelan, doesn't mean we need to discard him being great DPS and he is not powercrept yet, Mualani is just side-gameplay like Yoimiya and Lyney being different style.
If they made her Bike stamina longer or just remove it's cooldown entirely I would have pulled. The bike itself has been very controversial from a design POV but then they go and make it's stamina bar so short it can't even last 3-5 sec outside Natlan. That's what made me not pull her idk how much damage she do. If I'm pulling for a bike I wanna use the full bike. Remove the cooldown
Yeah, the stamina for the bike doesn't last as long as it should. Even in natlan, she does like 25% of what other characters do. Flys for way shorter than chasca, climbs less than xilonen, and surfs shorter distance than mualani. She is a crappy version of all of them. I had the impression that she'd have the exploration capabilities as all of them AND match them, but she doesn't. Idk why everyone is saying her exploration is amazing. It's like they haven't actually played her, and just saw clips of her doing stuff.
Mavuika’s bike basically doubles the amount of time you can spend on traversal if you have the other character. Such as starting to fly with Mavuika, swapping to Chasca, and then back to Mavuika. Sure, I was pretty disappointed with how short the flying, surfing, and climbing bars were, but I do understand why its so short. If it was super long, she would make the other natlan Characters minus Kinich and the Masters of the Nightwind useless. Not even the other archons make the other characters of their nation obsolete once you have them
But they Made her Bike Stammina longer... On their C1
@@bluefanta6901 none of the other archons have exploration gimmicks. They should have made her exploration match the other natlan characters. If someone doesn't have chasca, mavuika's flying is basically dogwater and worthless. They wouldn't become useless in anything but exploration. The exploration gimmicks should be made for convenience, but mavuika by herself FAILS in this area.
@@villa_art True, the only reason I can use Mavuika’s flight is cause I have Kinich, I have to either use a Saurian or slowly walk as Furina if I want to do anything over water
I took my super broken Pyro% goblet off of Yoimiya this morning and gave it to Mav.
It was a solemn affair, felt like the end of an era, but eventually we all have to move on from the things we love....
....also my Yoi is still top 2% with her backup goblet so she'll live (for IT at least)
as time passes, we must adapt too 🙏 your yoimiya will not be forgotten
top 2% on backup is awesome tho, nice
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Idk all I see is raiden copy with no need for all the stats known in game. similar burst and skill and higher multiplier for the burst and skill and has vape and melt whereas raiden doesn’t
she is 100% better than raiden shogun, i will give her that
Natlan main DPS all have very and I mean very interesting gameplay loops but we get to the Archon and it’s back to press button with no pre-requisite do big damage
@Juice-chan Well She is a 5.x Dps.😂
She is the latest archon to be released of course she would have higher multiplyer in her kit , otherwise Chinese not gonna like it@Juice-chan
@Juice-chan I have a fully broken c3 Raiden and the amount of extra damage my half built c2 Mav does, without Citlali even on field yet, is insane.
My Raiden is still more than good enough for anything I need her to do, but Mavuika's scaling is just off the charts.
Is anyone going to talk about how her current team is probably the best she'll ever be compared to other carries. Its incredibly HARD to replace Xilonen and Citlali in her teams. Like to the point Furina is a downgrade. Most other dps can use non natlan supports but she will have issues with that.
Mavuika doesn't need xilonen, just citlali. She actually just needs one natlanese in her team. But that's with mavuikas c1.
her extreme reliance and synergy with the natlan mechanic pretty much guarantees the only way to replace anyone in her party is with someone else from natlan who does the same but better
@Badkhela exactly c1. Arguments like these are made on c0r0. Otherwise, I can also say stuff like " my ayaka can also deal the same amount of damage she just deeds c6r1 (or whatever)." Its the exact design as Acheron in hsr. You need multiple copies to get rid of weird arbitrary kit restrictions.
@@----x----- We all know that will not happen any time soon.
C3 furina isn't a downgrade
An additional risk that Mavuika will face once Snezhnaya comes around is that she will be getting much fewer if any synergistic characters that use Nightsoul after that point. Frankly she might not get even get much of anything in Natlan unless they actually powercreep Bennett at once, since I doubt they can replace Xilonen or Citlali this fast.
i don't think stronger characters being released is a problem when the character being power crept is already overpowered, until hoyoverse just decides to multiply the absurd health of abyss bosses even more (which i can see, unfortunately)
Juice, unintentionally, exposed one of the biggest problems of powercreep: you will eventually bench your favorite characters because they're not viable anymore. Then... Why even bother pulling, specially when you don't even have good end content?
@@Emmanuel_RochaThere are lots of Diluc players still out there. I don't think a character will ever fall out of fashion unless their design sucks.
her burst ATK buff is underrated, i slotted her in my wrio team with furina and my wrio damage skyrocketed doing 176k CA now. AND her C1 makes her elemental skill uptime 100%
she has that???? omg, I haven't played wriothesley much because I've been waiting for the pyro archon for him. I'm so glad to hear it works out so well. I knew that NA's working for her burst were a benefit. I kind of wish I got her c1 now, but whatever, she'll be back.
the problem with using an offfield mavuika is the same as you craving so bad for sweets,
so you ordered a delicious full course meal, threw out the appetizer and main dish, and ate just the desserts.
it's delicious but it's such a waste. you might be better off buying a couple of icecreams or cakes from a dessert shop instead.
@@mikkunmikkichi3762 But we're not. We're boxing up the appetizer and main dish, taking it home, and going to eat it later when we feel like it. We STILL get to have DPS Mavuika, it's not like it magically gets thrown in the trash because we feel like using the skill option once in a while for a different character.
@@lulufortytwo3884 that plus the cinder city artifact gives a noticeable damage increase, AND the bonus that wrio naturally normal attacks A LOT so you can easily charge up her burst fighting spirit again for next rotation; basically 100% uptime
But Mav doesn't share her ATK% buff, she only her DMG% buff that she shares with the on-field character.
i don't think we have much to worry about in terms of power creep. especially since the nation of cryo is on the way. with her off field capabilities, she'll be able to fit in teams as a more comfortable xiangling slot, and that matters a lot because xiangling is outstanding even still because of this exact reason. she may fall off in terms of a dps, but she'll always have a place no matter what
I'd imagine we get more teams that can come close to Mavuika's level of damage in Snezhnaya though. But I REALLY think it's for the best if they don't try to keep releasing melt-related cryo units and make a character that changes freeze to be something damage-oriented that works on bosses (maybe some type of debuff). That's my ideal Tsaritsa design tbh. Just have her single-handedly bring back freeze.
@@sealyaggington7488This is a nice idea.
Mavuika's off field damage and application is her saving grace, but also her greatest vulnerability.
It would be very easy to Powercreep this aspect, as so little of her power budget went there.
May i introduce you to c2 and c4 mavuika?
Since they were so scared to make mavuika COMPLETELY powercreep xiangling off field I have a feeling this is the best we're gonna get, but it's still a net xiangling upgrade in dmg, ease of use and comfort so it's not horrible
Her combat is fun, but also, her bike is amazing for exploration even outside of Natlan. Is it severely handicapped in other places? Yes. But that doesn't change the fact that she makes exploration faster in other regions. She can climb, jetski, and hover everywhere. It makes exploring other places that felt "too out of the way" far more manageable.
I avoided exploring Liuye because the mountains combined with slow climbing animations made exploration there a chore. Now I'm finding chests and puzzles I missed when I first started a few months back.
Even if her bike is handicapped same with every other Natlan, it's better than anything we had before including Yelan's dash
This. The fact that i dont have to watch my characters slowly CRAWL a mountain for 40secs anymore is a godsend, makes this shit much more bearable.
Her combat is fun? She literally drives in circles... Try playing a game with actual good gameplay like devil may cry or bayonetta or metal gear rising or any action game that isn't genshin. Her gameplay is literal trash. I won't be pulling for her and will instead save for arlecchino. Trash tier character.
I think the nightsoul dependency is a huge logistic for Mavuika aging out in the future, it will be harder and harder for her to get new supports. Whereas Raiden mains benefitted from Chevreuse enormously in fontaine (even Emilie!) and Xilonen in Natlan, i was able to clear the new abyss second half with my raiden national team still because of how much that team benefits from investment over time. I dont think there is a dps character on my account who has stood the test of time more than the electro archon!
she buffed kinich & ganyu tho, so even if she's mostly a dps i'm happy enough. enjoy the vid folks!
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yesss pulled her just as a kinich buffer 😂😂😂
sure she can fill that role but she feels so barebones. no defensive utility at all, grouping, no buffing or any interesting mechanics or interactions she's just there to apply an instance of pyro and that's it. she feels so bland in that role. compare that to Furina or Nahida and what they brought to the team for their respective elements and roles.
I wanted her to fit a slot on my ganyu teams too and maybe even enable some other silly fun comps like a vape barbara but she doesn't consolidate anything into her and doesn't enable much team diversity beyong being a more reliable pyro enabler than 400er xiangling
@@----x-----strong burst and off field pyro..she is barebones being that she really doesn’t do much of buffing atleast give her a pyro shield
@@----x-----40% dmg buff with her passive is "no buffing" to you???
Like Mavuika is literally the best Natlan exploration unit, having everything besides the Master of the Night and Scions of the Canopy movement. Her E-skill is good enough to replace Xiangling for pyro application and her Burst does stupid amounts of damage.
The only issue with Mavuika is that she needs Natlan units to get her burst to recharge easily. It was painful to try to use Mavuika in team comps for Imaginuim Theater without a Natlan character in that team.
Doesn't IT start you with burst ready?
My Problem with Mavuivka is following
1: Her Ult is So Strong that She One-Shot Everything and Everyone into Oblivion and when the Enemys Died you Have to recharge her ult again in the next fight and that leads to the problem that she either does too little damage without setup or far too much damage with setup and in the long run it becomes more annoying than helpful.
2: Your stupid Swiss pocket motorcycle that can legitimately fly, swim, climb and even seems to have a life of its own. (Anyone who has played the Archron Quest will understand what I mean).
3: Their performance is so absurd that other characters feel absolutely subpar, which only leads to massive dissatisfaction among players.
4: Save will start MHY the HP in such absurd dimensions that other units can no longer keep up and you have to pull other units to keep up.
Man Natlan feels like a fever dream. (And not a good one)
Imagine losing your 50/50 to mona at hard pity
Could never be me
*me losing to my Citlali 50/50 to Qiqi at hard pity*
Me losing three times on hard pity 😮😮
Tighnari for me
Can you imagine someone losing 50/50 to dehya
And next time losing 50/50 to tenari
And .losing a 5star character on a standard banner to a sword
Could never be me
I am one witness of this bro 😢 82 pity. 😖😖😖
Well, if Mavuika will be powercrept 2 years from now then it means that most chars in Genshin before her like Hutao & Yoimiya will be more powercrept than her at that time. And she still have her support buff & strong pyro application with almost 100% uptime so she will still be usable at that time. Plus I already enjoyed using her for 2 years when that time comes so no regrets, like how I already enjoyed using Arlecchino throughout the 2nd half of Fontaine up to now in Natlan, so its now time for an upgrade to Mavuika.
This is what happens when u follow meta. A ch will be powercrept for a game power leveling to progress and meta players will keep getting fomo and will keep spending. So be satisfied with your units and don't be paranoid of being powercrept
What is bro yapping about
Consoom the product and get ready to consoom whatever comes next as well
A healthy way of looking at gacha/gambling games is like this. I'm not a sheep, and too old for this feeling that I'm being controlled/manipulated (watch Let's Go Whaling video) to keep excited about something that is 'better.'
Those rotations in the background made me die inside
I think you're flatout ignoring shoguns battery capabilities, which correlates to Mavuikas dmg buff, also while not very popular with players both of them can play the role of an actual sub-dps (different from off field dps) where they use their burst during the main (on field dps) downtime, while not the easiest teams to propely plan around they're very fun to play
i would not call her main dps her primary role but its certainly her most flashy & popular one among the playerbase, her subdps/pyro applier/buffer playstyle is nothing short of amazing while avaliable AND optimal from the get go, needing no other natlan character to be at full usage, while her main dps role is tied with super glue to xilonen and citlali.
her main dps role is the one i can see aging somewhat poorly as the game progress but her base role of buffer/applier/sub-dps is ageless unless hoyo decides to dial power creep up to 11 where all things mavuika brings (constant pyro app, scroll buff, dmg buff for active char, big area dmg without needing energy funelling) could be somehow considered "not enough" to be top tier
Bennett should have been power crept a long time ago but he isn't 😂
Absolutely, she's doing amazing in my Clorinde overload team.
Idk but don't her off field buff need her burst to be applied?
Also her main dps role gonna stay solid for long enough cause she have some of higher multiplyer in game and to powercreep that they need to pump out dozen of character that outscales her which result in people favoring her off field more then on field
For now her on field dps bring so much value that using her as sub dps feels stupid ( provided you have xilonen for her burst uptime
Idk but don't her off field buff ( not the artifact one but her kit one) need her burst to be applied?
Also her main dps role gonna stay solid for long enough cause she have some of higher multiplyer in game and to powercreep that they need to pump out dozen of character that outscales her which result in people favoring her off field more then on field
For now her on field dps bring so much value that using her as sub dps feels stupid ( provided you have xilonen for her burst uptime
I'll be real here, if her main DPS role "ages poorly" it will mean the death of every pre 5.3 character in the game.
She's outdamaging everyone I have by a hilariously significant margin, even without optimal gear/team.
Powercreeping past what she can do as a main DPS would just be an immediate death knell.
...though my devil's advocate part does say "they said they wanted to get back to their HI3 roots...."
Just did my first dmg screenshot with mav, citlali, xilonen and bennett hitting 756k. Safe to say this with my neuv and arle makes me set till 6.x.
For future I will be saving for for one-two of these things:
C3 xilonen
Skirk (if she is an element that isnt pyro or hydro)
Mav cons
Childe
Hopium that they make Thrain/Cap playable in later version even though he is "dead" just for playability reasons.
Skirk will most probably be the new element that they teased(worse to worse cryo with some special shenanigans) also cap might come in the future in the story, but I doubt he'll be playable, atleast not before the final arc of teyvat
If they make a Capitano character who looks like Thrain I will immediately go broke hahahaha
@@saifshaikh5102she is cryo
@@saifshaikh5102 she has been leaked by a pretty reliable leaker to be a cryo unit, but I rlly have no clue how they got that info since they also said she's dropping in 5.7
I really hate the fact that kinich little things don’t count as normal attacks it felt like a match made in heaven but it counts as normal attacks with yelan
My C2R1 Mavuika with talent level 6 did 1.3m in the current abyss. She just made the current hardest abyss a cakewalk.
Ohh lucky i wish i have her c2
I was doing like 120k per charge attack without Citlali, or a full set of Codex with c2r1
It's...just fully hilariously OP
So does C2 Raiden like whats your point 😂😂
@@felipemendes5336 We get it, youre salty and jealous.
Hardest abyss? You did not play during recent pyro only abyss or the infamous cryo+hydro lector abyss? If anything current abyss is okayish.
i expecting her kit to be same as furina where she can put all her team into nightsoul state, so that even non natlan characters can use her, natlan artifacts and make the exploration outside Natlan even longer
She didn't replace xiangling or Bennett and she's basically a stronger pyro shogun... With the ability to turn into her burst state with her skill but much much weaker. All showcases include citlali, I think we should be looking at citlali here!
The only good thing i could see about Mavuika being a main DPS is that now if Hoyo want make any more Pyro dps they would have to compared to the archon. Who i assume they don't want to powercreep. That might force hoyo to FINALLY release the Pyro supports/sub DPS we have been waiting years to get.
Being Dps isnt her biggest flaw. In most games DPS can get powercrept but Mauvika at least has supportive gimmicks (if nothing else, exploration usefulness)so that she is still relevant. Her biggest problem is reliance on Nightsoul Mechanics. She is forced to bring natlan characters in the team. This means when 6.0 + drops and new gimmick systems get released, Mauvika will not be getting new teammates. It will get harder and harder to bring her given her reliance on Natlan characters which at some point will not be releasing as often.
she's so strong I pulled for Neuvillette instead 💗
I agree that her supportive capabilities should have been better. She should have been on the pyro application level of Xiangling or at lease close and her burst should have been better as a buff. However I wouldn't say she powercrept all pyro dps characters. I would probably say she's very close to Arlecchino in turns of dps. Or at least that's what it feels like to me. Her dps is just more concentrated to the start of her dps window.
Not just arlecchino all other dps characters have been powercrept by mavuika.
TBH, I would have loved to see the tap e skill of Mavuika as part of Arlechino kit, so Mavuika could be something completely different and not competition to the past top Pyro DPS. The way it is, I do think that mavuika will have a great shelf life, but arlechino will have the same destiny as Hu Tao in a while: be a great unity but clearly powercrept
I can't find my original comment to respond to, but to touch on the bennett thing - I find it absurd how afraid they were of creeping XL & Bennett and we're only just now getting a XL replacement. Its honestly kind of irritating that we're gonna be in Shneznaya and Bennett will still be a pretty mandatory support. Why is it they creep Arlecchino after 5 patches, but can't creep Bennett after 4 and a half years
I agree that she's a pyro Raiden, which unlike Raiden is unlikely to get many buffs once Natlan is finished.
But there are somethings to be said about her off-field capabilities :
-her off-field is more valuable than Raiden's. Because Pyro > Electro and we have less options too.
-her burst's support is front loaded. Raiden needs the field time to recharge everyone else's energy, which isn't the most valuable buff in the game either.
-her pyro application isn't dependent on normal attacks, so she can be played with any DPS.
All of this to say, I think Mavuika's off-field kit is far from bad.
Right now we can't really use it because Mavuika it's a loss of DPS but in the future, she'll still be usable.
Also, her C1 and C2 buff her support nicely, 18s uptime and defense shred is far from bad for her.
Another thing that will keep Mauvika relevant is cinder city, this on top of her off fielding potential and up to 40% damage boost from ult will probably keep her nice and useful, even for anemo dps
Honestly im quite glad her exploration doesn’t just straight out power creep the other natlan units (chasca on top). But i still think she has my least favourite archon kit design. Forcing u to pull limited natlan supports just to charge her ult is rlly cringe compared to how furina can use 4 star healers just fine or how nahida can literally be ur only dendro and still be good.
Nahida's teams still center around sumeru units and havent gotten new additions since 3.X.
my Mualani literally could not clear Abyss despite 9/8 skill and Burst 40k plus HP and 230 CRIT DMG with Xiangling bc I just could not vape consistently bc her burst was just such a chore to get making sure she picked up particles and having 280 ER
It took me ONE DAY with Mavuika for my Mualani to finally clear😭 like seriously she’s that much of a help lol
not to mention she still hits 100-200k as a quick swap burst in that team and 500-700k when i play her on field😭
The way I see it is that every character has its flaws and I THINK a lot of people issues with her are being overblown for other reasons
I will say her being locked to Natlan supports is annoying BUT I do think we will get a Artefact set that will enable Nightsoul for all characters (Just makes to much sense for me)
I am guessing it will be a support set where when you use your skill , you enter nightsoul and get some buffs
Does she have Flaws ? Yes
Are they being overblowm? In my opinion yes, I feel as if she is being used as a banner for EVERYONES issue with Natlan
Ive seen so many people straight up lie or misconstrue data
For example that one guy who goes into every Mauv video and shouts about Genshins CN sales being down yet ignores ALL gatcha is down in CN
What I am trying to say is that the community has become extra toxic since Late Fontaine , Remember all the hate for Emilie ?
the problem with her is as a DPS she cannot sustain herself independent of others and is heavily reliant on Natlan characters... if these characters fall off when future supports are released she will not be buffed... unlike Neuvillette or Arlecchino who can self sustain and can function regardless of the supports they have hence making them viable regardless of the meta. she on the other hand will not be able to adapt to changes... and that is problematic for a DPS character.... the reason why so many 1.x DPS are still strong to this day is because they can function outside of their supports.... Mavuika just cannot. she is glued to Citlali and Xilonen and when they go down she goes down with them.
They need to buff her off-field elemental dmg, because it was the only thing that gonna save her in the future meta.
2:10 Actually Raiden is still in the competition thanks to Furina and Chevreuse. She is not the best dps anymore for sure but she is still the best dps electro (better than Clorinde and Yae) and her support capabilities are still welcome. But yes, with the arrival of Mavuika, there is a problem because all the 5 stars pyro characters are all dps. Why will I pull for Lyney in a game where Mavuika and Arlecchino exist.
clorinde >>> raiden in all teams
otherwise agreed
@Juice-chanClorinde is just 🤡
@Juice-chan You really declared WAR to Raiden 😂 😂
Raiden is not better than Clorinde even at C2. The dps is not there. The numbers are out if you know where to look like gcsim/TGS youtube channel.
@@puma21puma21 but C0 Clorinde is just mid tbh
if your dreams are vivid juice you can see venti being back soon
Wait, what is a Flicker Quickbloom? And is there a list somewhere of the “titled” teams?
I remember when the only titled teams were Morgana, National and International. The rest were pretty much named after reactions or Main DPS. Though I very much like the concept of the titles.
I got lost when every guidemaker started talking about Thundering Furry without explaining what it is, hence I would really appreciate a list / a guide on these titles.
The one thing I would do to 'fix' the whole natlan characters being dependent on nightsoul and other natlan characters is change cinder city so that all characters can use the full kit and that it means that those same characters have a nightsoul meter while the buff is active or something along that line cause having Kachina and pyro traveller is kinda annoying especially with those new sheild things
she's the first archon to not have one of the defining features of an archon: a skill that applies the element with a longer duration than cooldown
aaah, so glad to hear some talk about Ganyu. I immediately tried it out and it seemed like promising even though I know I had the wrong artifacts for it's full potential.
I was hoping that Mavuika would be Bennett + Xiangling. Off-field Pyro + buffing + healing. Sadly, we _still_ don't have a healing Archon that doesn't lose the entire point of their kit (Furina) or requires a special weapon (Nahida). But the Tsaritsa is supposed to be the Archon of love, so maybe she'll step in.
8:08 The only problem with that statement is why would anybody pull for Baizhu over Nahida or Emilie over Nahida unless you just really like that character. Baizhu isn't as good as a dendro applicator compared to Nahida and doesn't buff as much either. Sure Nahida doesn't do much for Burning team aside from keeping thr burn going, but Emilie doesn't either. Emilie's whole kit is making herself hit hard when there's a burning target. You can make the case of Baizhh having shield or Emilie having better dmg output in burning, but again this brings me back to my original statement. Why would use pull for Baizhu or Emilie over Nahida. Other than Burning, Nahida is the best dendro subdps and support so there's no reason for someone to pull for Baizhu or Emilie (again, unless you really like those characters) when the priority should be Nahida. Especially since both characters release during the end of 3.x and transitioning over to 4.x nobody is summoning for Baizhu and Emilie.
Ok, genuinely i don't understand how you can say mavuika powercreeps arle when arle's whole stick in the first place is being a very versatile pyro dps that works in every team.
Melt, vape, mono pyro, overload genuinely anything while still not being tied to another 5*.
Same with hu tao when arle first came out, people said arle powercreeps hu tao when arle herself doesn't even vape regularly, imo hu tao is still the best pyro dps for specifically vape with double hydro.
SAME THING with mualani and neuvillete situation. Does mualani have higher number than neuvillete? Technically yea. Does she powercreeps him? No, most people even still agree neuvi is the top dps just because he is so braindead to use.
Every dps in this game is just a different playstyle so you can pick and choose what you like. Nuke and burst damage per screenshot? Go for mav and mualani. Consistent damage and braindead ease of use? Go for neuvillete and arle. 10k of dps difference is enough to be considered dps powercreep nowadays HOLYYYYY you want real powercreep? Albedo and chiori IS real powercreep.
What's next? Hoyo releases columbina as a cryo dps that has 3k more damage than ayaka and wrio then you all will say omg ayaka and wrio is unusable now💀💀💀
Agree with almost every
But I don't think chiori fo as much off field shatter damage as albedo
I prefer braindead comfy gameplay, have neuv, won't pull mualani. Also was bit debating whether to pull for mav of arle but arle just seems the better one for me, for my preferred gameplay style
People always focus on OMG BIG DAMAGE PER SCREENSHOT and forget about the ACTUAL practicality of doing it on abyss. You can't even 1 shot nuke basically every abyss boss at C0 and then at second rotation because arle has leftover BoL she does more damage.
Then how about C2 or C6 you asked? At that point does it even matter if you do 10M or 9M damage when the enemy has 3M HP holy shit.
Or people who said zhongli is useless and is a dps loss. Yea, yea he is a dps loss but then can you dodge primo geovishap perfectly and NOT losing dps because dodging is technically also a dps loss. Not everything is about number, holy fuck the genshin community is either braindead about numbers or braindead about racism.
@kanicunny my first banner I pulled on was zhongli's(unfortunately I lost the 50/50) but when I got him on his rerun, man the comfort he provides is unbeatable. Also the flexibility Neuvillete has matters more than the sweaty high dmg numbers(even though he has high damage numbers). Same with Arlecchino, her flexibility and ramp is quite good in abyss, and honestly what thing lasts long enough in the overworld anyways?
@saifshaikh5102 Exactly, less dps this, more dps that, is everyone a robot with perfect 0.1ms execution? Jesus sometimes these CC glazes a unit so much like a dicksucker while also downplaying the others so much like they're trash on the side of the street
Hoyo: Behold our new pyro on field dps
Everyone: Hoyo, this is the 7th week in a row you’ve shown an on field pyro dps
I don't think she will be powercrept anytime soon considering the next archon is the cryo one, so she could be easily another cryo character that somehow will have some synergy with Mavuika herself, so she will be even stronger, just like Raiden works just fine with Nahida
Don't forget about her exploration capabilities, she is undauntedly one of the best characters if not the best for exploration
And if you are a Whale and get her C6, no one is better than her bc she can ride her bike forever and the special stamina bar for water, air and climb is extended by a lot
She's perfect for me personally
i do really enjoy her playstyle in fairness
The issue with Raiden is that we haven't seen a SINGLE burst reliant proper sub dps since Yelan. All Raiden needs to be "meta" or close to it again is a 1 or 2 STRONG sub dps characters with 70+ burst costs with majority of their kit being about dealing damage with their burst. Yelan, XQ and XL are the only characters that truly synergize with everything Raiden has to offer and while they are good, none of them are really good enough to carry her teams hard enough anymore to compete as the damage ceiling has been steadily increasing.
Imagine another electro sub dps who has the same 18s CD and 90 burst cost as Raiden and is all about doing tons of damage off field with their burst. Assuming that character does meta levels of damage in any team, that character would go crazy in a team with Raiden as she would allow for much less ER.
So I wouldn't really say that Raiden has "fallen off" in terms of potentially valuable kit, it's just that she has never been truly realized as a character as she IS a support character as well as a dps/driver. She just has no one of note to support to this day.
my current favorite ganyu setup is burnmelt with mavuika, nahida and xilonen. i actually didnt even think to put bennett in there because my head is still suck in the bennet xiangling pyro app era. that said, nahida has em sharing for ganyu and i think that makes up quite abit of the dmg loss from not using bennett. ill try out bennet/ganyu/mav/xilonen team
I feel like Mavuika should be buffed so that those Nightsoul Aligned shields are easily dealt with by her/one-shotted by Mavuika. It would've sold her a lot more if one E tap or 3 slaps from her motorcycle was enough to negate the Papila's nightsoul shield
This might be controversial but I find c6 Mavuika to be more versatile buffer than a c6 furina cuz furina gives upto a 125% dmg bonus + sub dps (mostly single target) while mavuika is giving 50% dmg (90 with scroll) + 40 def shred + sub dps (better aoe), def shred being much rarer than dmg% makes it more useful, she also makes a case for being the best carry alongside Neuvillete/Mualani/Arlecchino while furina is quite behind her in that regard.....
But Furina can also use a supportive artifact set plus there are way more supportive swords than there are claymores
@LeaTw3403 cinder city is going to be better than supportive set furina can run, but you're right key of khaj is bis on c6 furina, it's just that if they make a better buffer than mavuika it would also be better than furina.....
Its 20 def shred. C6 only makes you also shred def while in bike form as opposed to only ring form.
But yes she is very good.
So to assuage so of yalls worries and also to kinda give some insight on teams since people thing bennet is best. For Mavuika she is probably going to see a Long Long life on top of the dps pile we can tell by how hard they've gone on her kit her lore and overall marketing someone was allowed to cook and they ain't done with the kitchen yet so lets be expectant instead of worrying over something that isn't even here yet enjoy the moment. Now for teams Pyro traveler is Tailor made to synergize with mavuika run 1 hyro or 1 cryo things go boom with both mavuika and travelers fire skills popping and pyro traveler can keep 100% uptime of nightsoul blessing when played right XD
I love playing her with king Kinich! I’ve been using Dehya with him and she wasn’t bad, but I’ve been wanting to try Mavuika with him forever!
Used kinich, mavuika, bennett and baizhu with the dendro set and citlalis weapon. Kinich hit 411k with his first shot. Mavuikas been such a blessing.
Also got her to hit 1.1 million dmg melt with diona c6 with r2 elegy. Bennett, and xilonen. Love her so far.
Don't know why people are not playing Kinich, he is the best DPS right now, i have almost all the characters and he kills bosses way faster than others . Mualani is good too but its only her first elemental skill that deals a lot of damage, Kinich deals constant damage and has a burst that keeps going too .
is it a good idea to pull her for kinich then? ill probably get her on her rerun but even though i dont care for her as a character or her playstyle, im willing to learn if its for kinichs sake. i saw someone say investing in his c2 is better but idk
@chudsterbudster2549 Its mostly just for having a cooler team and Mauvika deals more damage than Thoma as support but Kinich already deals so much damage u can have Mauvika on the other abyss team, i have Kinich C2 r1 and he deals about 100 K more damage each Constellation until u get to C3 after that u gain less damage until C6 , but who the hell goes for a C6 character, waste of primos.
When i have Mauvika C2 and Kinich C2 on the same team it just feels like they are both fighting over who does most damage, i don't understand why they had to make her a DPS, it would have made more sense to make her support , then Mualani and Kinich would feel like they where made to play with her (EVEN THE ARTIFACTS PROMOTES HAVING NATLAN CHARACTERS TOGHETER)
Anyways i still love Kinich after getting Muavika and will go for his C3 next re run, but wont go C3 for Mauvika, that should tell u everything u need to know xD Feels like they ditched the Kinich and Mualani support and just focused on getting Mualani and Citlali to be the new duo,
But you decide who to pull for, im a noob so maybe someone knows more than me.
@Asle_Kaspersen no i share the same sentiment bc i was really hoping theyd make mavuika more of an off-field support bc we really don't need more pyro dps' and we have like 3 off-field supports, 2 pretty niche. and she's better with natlan units, so even if i wanted to do vape neuvi or navia support it wouldnt be much different than if i used xiangling anyway (plus i heard xiangling has better pyro application; i truly believe she and benny are the pyro archons like wth). so id really just be using her for kinich. idk im just disappointed in her kit 😔
@chudsterbudster2549 yeah, and i hated Bennet from the start, i refused to play him, he is such a boring character, Xiangling was cool and fun at least, but man after 4 years I'm still stuck with play boring old characters or suffer damage wise, i was really hoping Bennet would be gone after i got Mauvika, nope now he is even better than before.
They did Raiden dirty by not releasing all that many off-field dps that synergize well with her.
Only Yae and Yelan fits the bill. Off-field units that comes later doesn't even care about ER requirements anymore.
Raiden needs more Yelan, amazing unit with amazing number that's gated by disgusting ER requirements.
the ER requirement (fighting spirit) is her worst aspect! she ONLY works well with natlan units in her team.
I couldve seen a bit of healin added to her kit or the ability to revive natlan characters since thats in the story. Im really happy with her as is, a little more support capability would be nice, but Natlan is far from over. I cant wait to see how the other units work with her! 😁
My problem is like the old 'diluc showcase' somebody made where yelan did 99% of the work. i want to use her as off field pyro app for mualani, but playing the team optimally would probably be ignoring mualani completely and just fielding her as dps and using the other 2 as supports.
As someone who got and mained Raiden from ar45 during the sumeru times and c3r1 her in this recent banner, i was so surprised mavuika having somewhat an identical kit to raiden. When i saw her in the first natlan ignition trailer, i made up my mind to main her when she releases. Even my unbuild Mavuika is doing what raiden does in c3.
I would still use both but Mavuika is hands down the best character in terms of everything now. Still few natlan characters are left to be released which might buff her more or maybe not. But to put her out of meta, hoyo have to bring down the whole pyro element. I think even in Snezhnaya, she would be relevant for both her support and dmg capabilities
..............also she is such a HOT BIKER MOMMY SHE'LL ALWAYS BE ON TOP FRR
I remember thinking over the last two years gee I can’t wait for natlan to get a new off field pyro user to replace Bennett and low and behold the only pyro unit it looks like we’re getting this year and she wants Bennett on her teams. I have zero interest in using mavuika on field ever I have Hu Tao and Arlecchino for that I don’t care if mavuika is better than them on field I want pyro off fields . Sucks even more it looks like we’re not getting Xbalanque or pyro sovereign either as playable characters.
I’m also baffled after four years Bennett remains the only pyro sword user if you don’t count the traveller
I built pyro traveler and have been trying to use them... They are best forgotten 😅
I like her being a dps as it fits her character being the god of war obviously she'll be a dps/hard hitter. Besides it's nice to finally have a main dps archon, not one where you use a burst or skill and then never see them again until time runs out. I understand Raiden and Nahida could technically be main dps but it really depends on teams as with Mavuika it's her main kit.
Also I do understand the hate she gets for when she absolutely needs Natlan but again it fits her character as no one in Natlan fights alone and she's always there to help you. Should they ha e made it an absolute? Not really maybe at least allow other characters to give a decent amount of energy just not a lot and it would be fine but again I understand why they made her that way
I regret skipping Xilonen and I’m scrambling to get Citlali after saving everything for Mavuika! So many premium characters needed for her teams and I have mostly Natlan characters.
The fundamental flaw is shes not bennet and xiangling combined.
New Pyro MC has nice damage with all the stats maxed and a heal, technically don't need Mavuika, even though Mavuika's DPS is amazing.
we don't actually have good enough pyro dpses only three are good, so the introduction of mavuika can be acknowledged
After wuaa has come out with a gadget letting you fly for free im just dissapointed with how scummy it is for hoyo to lock basic movement options behind a paywall. Doesnt help with how bad flying with the saurians are
We'll never see a Support Pyro again.
-If they're weaker than Bennett no one will pull because they have Bennett
-If they're as strong as Bennett no one will pull because they have Bennett*
-If they're stronger than Bennett they break the game
* = Unless it's an INSANELY hot/cute waifu character that they make the player fall in love with in some weird parasocial way like they did with Firefly in HSR
good thing to know... i want to pull ganyu anyway.. now i know i can pair her with mavuika
Everyone pulling for archon, while I'm just sitting for keqing banner. I was gonna consider depending on how much she powercrept chasca (i pulled her only for natlan travels), seeing how she performs makes me sleep well. I think 1.x electro vs pyro kicks in lol
Doesn't matter if raiden is the worst or not, her pulling out the sword is the only thing keeping me in the game till now. Natlan feels so boring and the characters don't even match the genshin world. It is a filler region. Flying guns and swimming bikes. Story is meh...Hope shenznaya is better.
So correct me if I'm wrong. At C0, Mavuika's off-field pyro application( Tap Skill) is significantly worse compared Raiden Shogun's off-field electro application. You need Mavuika C1 to be on par with Raiden's C0 off- field application.
??? There two different characters
Mauv pyro appli at CO is good for MOST teams that need off-filed pyro
so in most cases she is better than Xiangling
Their elements have different reaction thus making them can't be replaced by the other in most team they support in
The only time it is a problem is when you try using them to trigger bloom core which just use kuki man
Raiden's skill has icd, so it can only apply electro every 3rd hit (or every 2.7 secs in Raiden's case)
So mavuika has better application than her cos she has no icd ☠️
Just stop, this is sad.
The fundamental flaw with her kit is that I’m not playing her right now, so much fun.
Imagine if Diluc make a comeback in the future, don't know how but would be fun
Characters may do more damage than Archons but they do what they do and are the best at it .
(Not a complaint) It’s entirely a skill issue but I die ten times more as her than i ever did with Arle. I never notice getting hit as Mavuika when borrowing my friends, eventually I just drop dead mid spin because I’m too literally blind to see my health bar a lot of the time.
And personally I just… really don’t like how she feels to play. I love the bike and character but she kinda feels bad to use In combat. Which is fine, of course. Hope everyone got lucky with pulls or will if they continue to try for her.
And I definitely would have pulled if she had more supportive capabilities. Since that would sidestep what i just said above and give me another option for pyro related teams alongside Guoba’s minion.
A fundamental Mavuika flaw for me is that from behind her hair looks like she is wearing a pumpkin octopus on her head. I know it's stupid and trivial but it bugs me 😂🐙
i mostly agreed with this, even if she gets powercrept ill always appreciate the time and love i spent with my archons. screw meta
Another flaw is that by default she will not preform as well in teams without other Natlan characters. Making her shelf life even shorter.
Kinich burgeon > kinich burning with Mavuika ofc
i want a pureee overload should i go for mavika or arlechino
Honestly people are really wrong on mavuika aging poorly. Her current best team is not ideal at all.
Citlali has a lot of her budget in being a cinder city holder and having TTDS, beyond that her kit only shreds 20% RES and applies cryo.
Xilonen is all you need for Mavuika so she has an easy upgrade in a future cryo off fielder like maybe the cryo archon.
Bennett also doesn't need to be on her team, he just is currently the best option.
Bennett provides a lot of atk, the stat that mavuika already has the most of.
If Mavuika could run furina and citlali at once she would but thanks to shatter being a thing she cant.
So a pyro DMG% buffer would be a stronger buffer than bennett for her.
Her cons also change her longevity a lot as she becomes a support on the level of furina with C2 onward.
I liked your video, also I'm glad unlike lots of people who say (idk how or with which evidence) that mavuika is first dps archon but I'm very curious about cryo archon, because until this point we had dhp archon in each role, venti zhongli sup, raiden mauvika main dps with off field application, nahida furina sub dps and buffer. I really want to know which role cryo archon gonna be. Also happy new year 😊
(I also have question, do you know between kazuha c0 r1 and xilonen c0 r1 which one buff more? To be exact I just care about my favorite char raiden and I don't have xilonen bcuz I saved my guranted for mavuika, which one of them at constellation 0 with signature weapon and artifact set buff dmg more) couldn't found a video on UA-cam
I got a hyperbloom team but I'm having trouble deciding on a second abyss team. Could someone name some examples?
Im F2P but I have furina, yelan, mavuika,raiden, wanderer, jean and kazuha five stars that im not using in hyperbloom and the general good 4 stars.
I have 240 wishes so I can get a new character
Her burst using fighting spirit is a double edged sword.
While it makes her easy to play with natlan 5 stars, she's really not that impressive without them specially Xilonen.
Yes ,normal attacks can fill up her burst but not entirely and her burst scales off of fighting spirit so it deals significantly less damage to the point that the Arlecchino teams perform better.
Okay if put 800em on nahida will crt ratio still be important ?
Why not? If u have enough er then go for it. My nahida is crit-dendro-em with 130 er and 50-130 crit ratio, all this with 800 em.
@ alrighty
she'll be fine. her off-field is the best in her element (only situationally topped by Xiangling)
Ah...I'm still so sad about what come have been (for both getting to actually play her/her abilities) and our Beloved Captain, my Capatin I'll stay strong~
i do wish we got to have something to do with phoenixes in her kit, like how she turned into one in the original natlan trailers
@Juice-chan its so sad that we see her shining in all her flaming glory throughout the arc and yet in reality, don't truly get to experience that in normal gameplay!
I wanted fire bursts/flames/etc I was not even expecting/wanting a dragon or more, just to have her claymore and fire abilities (ironically, a bit more like how Pyro Traveler's abilities appear with flinging fire from the sword). Where is my Sol Invictus? We got a Harley instead T_T
I know I'm still salty about the bike but it seems fun though, I had a nice enough time in the trial. I still don't understand why if they went this route that they didn't make the bike an even better all terrain/region vehicle - I could justify getting her then at least if she would support exploration outside Natlan but the fact they stripped that and her support capabilities from her is just tough to swallow. I don't know man, the bike genuinely seems somewhat more of a "quick gimmick" even in the plot (coming out of no where, little to no rationale) and it felt more forced in there to justify it being in Mavuika's kit/for a sale. Basically it just felt so unnecessary and forced to me and even though it can be a cool aesthetic for some and I'm thrilled so many people are enjoying her, its just...the way some characters and decisions in Natlan were made...leaves a hollow impression to me.
I'm hoping an "Ode to Resurrection" and the Captain's Messianic motifs exist for a reason ;)
People Complain when ftp Units are Not offered yet cry when one of the best supports in the Game is a very accessable 4 Star. Weird to me
Pyro Traveler vid next? Is it any good?