apparently I made a mistake with Rosalia, and she does work properly, and it's not based on RBE, it was just so unnoticeable when I used her so I didn't know. sorry! doesn't affect her placement tho she still sucks lol
As a corvus lover, absolutely agree. While corvus is mega strong and allows for ridiculous save-ups, he is not black border friendly at all: one wrong nourishment timing can not just lose you the black border but sometimes even the whole run. And micro-ing his spells, especially for mobile users such as myself is a pain. I beat all expert maps except quad and bloody puddles with him but won't recommend it for black borders
I think Ben actually SAVES you money. If you get him to level 7 before round 40, he gets the trojan hack. Meaning he can just trojan the moab, and you dont have to worry about the insides. Helped me in alot of games outside of chimps mode.
As a Corvus fan, I feel personally offended. Corvus actually isn't that hard, all you have to do is spam like 4 spells and you mastered him. He should be at least low A for me.
He’s just takes a little bit of practice. He’s also hands down the best way to get co-op black borders because you don’t need to worry about money like you would for Geraldo
This is the best hero tier list I've seen so far except one ranking, Gwen and 4-x-x or 5-x-x tackshooter is so stupidly broken that it allowed me to get all intermediate and begginer maps (I haven't started on doing black border on higher tier maps, but for impoppable it's still broken on most maps) so gwen is a S tier for me
Sauda also solos most beginner maps until R30, easily carries all of Beginner Chimps, but add multiple tracks and she completely falls off. A hero's performance in one map category does not say anything about how good they actually are.
Corvus can be A tier max, but at that point you are playing Corvus, not BTD6. Even a Corvus main like me gets annoyed with so much micro, i can say however hes not inconsistent.
Etienne in D is wild. His early game weakness is irrelevant, by the time you have money to buy heroes, early game isn't an issue anymore. UAV shreds every round. Global camo is super useful, because I can't be bothered to micro flare. He's phenomenal for blackbordering advanced and expert maps more comfortably
imo his earlygame weakness is relevant, it causes you to overspend on defenses, ucav does kinda shred, but the cooldown is so long it can't be used for most rounds, global camo is nice, but most towers already have camo, and it costs 2k max to get camo, and you don't even have to micro flare on most maps
Sauda can only start on one expert map technically 2 while quincy can start on 5 technically 6 therefore quincy is at least 3x better than sauda and should be in S tier
Adora is one of the best hero in the game, also corvus is not really that hard to use even if you don't nourish at all he's still better than quincy or churchill while also having one of the best earlygame
dont let this video distract you from the fact that doreo once uploaded EIGHT (yes 8) Geraldo guides IN A ROW (5 of those being with elite sniper as well). But fr, cool video doreo, I'll see you at band practice tuesday afternoon
I hate corvus so I like this tier list No not because he's too hard to play but it's the fact that he destroyed lots of lcc runs and always makes the run centered around him
Rosalia's discount works on above t3 so it makes ace save up a little better for maps that require it (mostly expert maps), but still not good enough/easy to use to make her viable aside from that.
@@doreoisbad Yea that's the problem, everyone hates it after they patched the sotf bug, so there are basically no post-patch guides, but I know it has to be pain to make a guide for it
I think Corvus is at least b teir for black bordering, yes Corvus is the most annoying hero to use at 100% power, but i feel using him at 50% the annoyance balances out with the this is the best chimps hero in the game. BUT FUCK CORVUS YOU SHOULD PUT HIM IN F - TEIR!
Agreed overall but I'd have Obyn at lower A instead since they made multiple brambles possible. Late game not as useful but still helps, but omg it makes early levels a breeze. Not as good as Psi and my beloved Sauda, but better than any other B tier imho.
At first I was offended about Gwen's C tier, then I realized this is for black bordering. And then I was like, nah she's at least D tier. Being my favourite, I've tried using her for many black borders with her and she has failed me more times than I can count. Obyn belongs in A, free black border on many maps. Also, as of 43.2, Obyn helped get me Josh's Constant in Workshop
Holy shit, tier list where the middle tier actually has the most units instead of just being top heavy or bottom heavy nice, a little surprised by Sauda placement given her small range tho but I can't say I really disagree with the reasonings
@@NoobSharkey honestly saudas short range isn't much of a limiting factor because of how most maps work, most maps have some form of big intersection where she can do work, but even if they don't, she can still be used to handle like 1-2 lanes of a multi-lane map
@@borisdragosani7584yeah but he sucks in mid game and is heavily carried by druids or trees otherwise he’s not very good compared to other hero’s but it really depends on what you want out of a hero
Geraldo is micro and is nowhere near easy, go ahead give geraldo and quincy/sauda to the average player, guess wich one they will tell you is easy. You're a good player and your huge experience is blinding you to the reality of things.
geraldo is mid-round micro, that is completely irrelevant, that doesn't add difficulty because you aren't having to time stuff, yes Gerry is a bit complicated, but once you learn him (it takes like 3 hours max, that's how long it took me when he released), he is stupid good
@@doreoisbad no one s arguing he s bad, and no it's not just "3 hours max" again you take your own experience and not realize it's not even close to the average player
Video should have been called chimps tier list because ben was ranked so low even though he can be good for beating other game modes. But good video still
apparently I made a mistake with Rosalia, and she does work properly, and it's not based on RBE, it was just so unnoticeable when I used her so I didn't know. sorry! doesn't affect her placement tho she still sucks lol
As a corvus lover, absolutely agree. While corvus is mega strong and allows for ridiculous save-ups, he is not black border friendly at all: one wrong nourishment timing can not just lose you the black border but sometimes even the whole run. And micro-ing his spells, especially for mobile users such as myself is a pain. I beat all expert maps except quad and bloody puddles with him but won't recommend it for black borders
You are right, ranking towers for usefulness in black borders changes a lot of things. Very interesting video!
Thanks!
Love how Psi can just yell at the bloons and then they suddenly pop lol.
I think it's closer to psychological torture but yeah
He is a they/them after all. Getting baloons cancelled lmao
@@belzebubukas they must've exposed them on twitter lol.
Within this video's context, your hero list makes sense, nice nuanced view
Thanks!
I think Ben actually SAVES you money. If you get him to level 7 before round 40, he gets the trojan hack. Meaning he can just trojan the moab, and you dont have to worry about the insides. Helped me in alot of games outside of chimps mode.
yeah but if he trojans the Moab then he will trojan a TON more moabs and end up losing money long term
Etienne: D Tier
Also Etienne: Helped with most of my black borders.
As a Corvus fan, I feel personally offended. Corvus actually isn't that hard, all you have to do is spam like 4 spells and you mastered him. He should be at least low A for me.
I hat corbus
He’s just takes a little bit of practice. He’s also hands down the best way to get co-op black borders because you don’t need to worry about money like you would for Geraldo
This is the best hero tier list I've seen so far except one ranking, Gwen and 4-x-x or 5-x-x tackshooter is so stupidly broken that it allowed me to get all intermediate and begginer maps (I haven't started on doing black border on higher tier maps, but for impoppable it's still broken on most maps) so gwen is a S tier for me
the thing is, anything is good on beginner and intermediate maps, so imo this doesn't hold much weight to her placement
@@doreoisbad on advanced maps on imposibloon and some chimps works very well
Sauda also solos most beginner maps until R30, easily carries all of Beginner Chimps, but add multiple tracks and she completely falls off. A hero's performance in one map category does not say anything about how good they actually are.
Corvus can be A tier max, but at that point you are playing Corvus, not BTD6. Even a Corvus main like me gets annoyed with so much micro, i can say however hes not inconsistent.
tbh I might be biased because I used corvus once after learning him and it was really annoying to keep spamming stuff while doing heli micro
Etienne in D is wild. His early game weakness is irrelevant, by the time you have money to buy heroes, early game isn't an issue anymore. UAV shreds every round. Global camo is super useful, because I can't be bothered to micro flare. He's phenomenal for blackbordering advanced and expert maps more comfortably
imo his earlygame weakness is relevant, it causes you to overspend on defenses, ucav does kinda shred, but the cooldown is so long it can't be used for most rounds, global camo is nice, but most towers already have camo, and it costs 2k max to get camo, and you don't even have to micro flare on most maps
Sauda can only start on one expert map technically 2 while quincy can start on 5 technically 6 therefore quincy is at least 3x better than sauda and should be in S tier
Adora is one of the best hero in the game, also corvus is not really that hard to use even if you don't nourish at all he's still better than quincy or churchill while also having one of the best earlygame
if ur going into a run completely blind, then Gerry is worse than sauda or psi, but I assumed at least a little planning, so I put Gerry above
That anti bloon discount is OP. That's probably why you forgot to mention it. Easily makes her the 2nd S tier hero.
ShadowViperGaming’s video says otherwise
@@10carflo22 r/whoosh
@@Snarky_Queen actually kind of glad, I couldn’t believe someone actually thought that thing was good lamo
dont let this video distract you from the fact that doreo once uploaded EIGHT (yes 8) Geraldo guides IN A ROW (5 of those being with elite sniper as well). But fr, cool video doreo, I'll see you at band practice tuesday afternoon
you will never let go of that huh?
@@doreoisbad i will never stop trolling u
As much as I love using Sauda, she is really strong on most maps except expert maps with multiple pathways
she even works on multi lane experts, I've used her on a few
I hate corvus so I like this tier list
No not because he's too hard to play but it's the fact that he destroyed lots of lcc runs and always makes the run centered around him
exactly, I hat corbus
Rosalia's discount works on above t3 so it makes ace save up a little better for maps that require it (mostly expert maps), but still not good enough/easy to use to make her viable aside from that.
well the thing is, the money she saves can also just be saved by using a better hero to do more work and spend a tiny bit less on defenses
loved the vid
new sub
"used to be really good with super maelstrom" 😭
Nice tierlist though
rip patsmael
And.. I thought Ben is F Tier and Corvus E Tier, coz Ben is way more useless than Corvus in CHIMPS
Could you do a chimps guide for glacial trail? Because your old strategy with sotf doesn't work now
I hate glacial trail so much to where I don't wanna play it, just use a different guide thh
@@doreoisbad Yea that's the problem, everyone hates it after they patched the sotf bug, so there are basically no post-patch guides, but I know it has to be pain to make a guide for it
I think Corvus is at least b teir for black bordering, yes Corvus is the most annoying hero to use at 100% power, but i feel using him at 50% the annoyance balances out with the this is the best chimps hero in the game. BUT FUCK CORVUS YOU SHOULD PUT HIM IN F - TEIR!
I was probably gonna put him higher, but someone convinced me to put him in F tier lol
@@doreoisbad lol
When is the next part comming?
later, I've already got a few queued videos right now
Agreed overall but I'd have Obyn at lower A instead since they made multiple brambles possible. Late game not as useful but still helps, but omg it makes early levels a breeze. Not as good as Psi and my beloved Sauda, but better than any other B tier imho.
At first I was offended about Gwen's C tier, then I realized this is for black bordering. And then I was like, nah she's at least D tier. Being my favourite, I've tried using her for many black borders with her and she has failed me more times than I can count. Obyn belongs in A, free black border on many maps. Also, as of 43.2, Obyn helped get me Josh's Constant in Workshop
Gwen iring is a good strat on a bunch of maps, but I could see obyn in A, but I still feel like he is a clear step down from psi and sauda
Etienne D tier??? HES so good for Late Game 😢😢😢
he does like 3 damage
@@doreoisbad I did muddy puddles with him
@@Peace_in_Christ muddy puddles is a long single lane map, literally any hero can work
@@doreoisbad but his plane Is so good
Just completed underground chimps with Roselia and Perma charge. It's so hard to micro and time her abilities. Very unreliable 💀
can't tell if you're being serious or not
@@doreoisbad I'm serious. Took me 5 hours to BB bc it was very hard to survive the midgame before perma
GODraldo keeps on winning baby!!
Holy shit, tier list where the middle tier actually has the most units instead of just being top heavy or bottom heavy nice, a little surprised by Sauda placement given her small range tho but I can't say I really disagree with the reasonings
@@NoobSharkey honestly saudas short range isn't much of a limiting factor because of how most maps work, most maps have some form of big intersection where she can do work, but even if they don't, she can still be used to handle like 1-2 lanes of a multi-lane map
My brother, you are gulping for air. Get an Inhaler
Should have put OBGYN in A
obyn A really would've been a thing but I feel like psi and sauda are considerably better
@@doreoisbad I understand. But trees are just so good late game. My own bias would have put him in A.
@@borisdragosani7584yeah but he sucks in mid game and is heavily carried by druids or trees otherwise he’s not very good compared to other hero’s but it really depends on what you want out of a hero
Geraldo is micro and is nowhere near easy, go ahead give geraldo and quincy/sauda to the average player, guess wich one they will tell you is easy. You're a good player and your huge experience is blinding you to the reality of things.
geraldo is mid-round micro, that is completely irrelevant, that doesn't add difficulty because you aren't having to time stuff, yes Gerry is a bit complicated, but once you learn him (it takes like 3 hours max, that's how long it took me when he released), he is stupid good
@@doreoisbad no one s arguing he s bad, and no it's not just "3 hours max" again you take your own experience and not realize it's not even close to the average player
Im not corvus fan but he is op and u only need to click nourishment and recovery and thats all easy black border to advanced or even expert
recovery doesnt speed up nourishment anymore
can we get an ezili guide
I've already made a few guides with her
Ngl Corvus with 0 spells is better than church lmao
I hat corbus
Psi, churchill> Geraldo
using geraldo the most effective way is infinitely better than both heroes
Video should have been called chimps tier list because ben was ranked so low even though he can be good for beating other game modes. But good video still
Bro corvus f tier die
I would of put Obyn in A tier
ok
dorro