Never knew how thses dewalt organizers worked/stacked together. Thats a game changer! I jave a few of these and will no longer ignore them when they are on sale. Awesome! Thank you!
Yeah… they even have a even bigger one that you can stack two of the biggest ones I have on top of. I know the Dewalt and Craftsman stack together… someone told me the Irwin brand does too.
Huge fan of the Vessel 30 + 1 bit set, very compact with a great selection of high quality bits. I take it with me to every job. It's a little expensive but I've bought more than one, enough said.
Wow I like the setup - I’m in the process of organizing my collection at the house because I have stuff in the garage and in the basement. I then have to bring my tools to the farm or the kid’s houses. The bits and sockets in yellow and the drill bits in the red case is genius. Thank you.
I know this video is a year old, but Milwaukee has recently redesigned their bit holders and boxes.... the boxes now fit the pack-out boxes better and the bit holders are front loading rather than the older "top loading" style... if that makes sense. I love the .22 case idea for 1" bits... and they are cheap! ... about $3-$4. Would be nice if they had deeper boxes just like them for 2/3/4" bits, but ill have to stop by the gun shop and see if their magnum case holders will fit longer bits efficiently. I appreciate the review and discussion!
@@RogerVannausdle yeah, I haven’t met anyone who likes them. You are the second person to recommend the Montana cases. We were supposed to get a Menards near me then Covid hit and it fell through. I will have to check those out next time I am by one. Thanks for the suggestion 👍
Great system. I've outfitted a couple of Packout compact organizers the same way you did with your Craftsman drill bit case. Just have to buy 3d printed bins that allow you to lock in your existing bit holder rails. I love having all of my specialty drill bits in one place 👍🏻
I bought 2 of those 6 pc socket style keyring style carbine type bit holders that clip on my belt,and also applied the rubber spider brand 3 bit holders to each of my 4 impact drivers and leave 3 of the most common bits I use right on my drill,then toss a bit box in my drill bag when I need an odd bit on occasion
In my right tool belt pouch I keep a Klein multi-bit screwdriver (12? insert bits in the handle) holding a 6" locking Milwaukee locking impact bit holder. I keep a slim 3" DeWalt locking bit holder in my M12 Surge, which also has a small magnetic bit rail attached to it. I also keep a 6" DeWalt sllim bit holder in my left tool belt pouch and a 12" in my bag. I have a Railer hanging off my tool belt, which holds my short nut drivers. It's very rare that I need to go to my bag or van. Not too heavy.
That’s kinda how I keep bits in my bags… I usually have everything I need with me. I keep the bigger cases in my garage and truck with either refills or not so common drivers. We are much alike my friend 👍
I’m very thankful with my line of work I only need to carry that little Milwaukee bit case and a Malco flip socket. I also carry a security bit set but I leave it in the van. Great video.
That is pretty sweet. I want to move into more service work for that reason. I want to get to the point where I pretty much use my Veto Bag and an occasional Power Tool. I've often wondered sometimes how much money I could have saved on tools if I only did one specific field or specific job. Then I know myself enough, that I would just spend the same money buying every single tool within that field 😂😂 Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification on this one.
@@MORGANSMaintenance for 90% of my job I get away with my Tech MCT, M12 Surge, and a step ladder. I have bigger tools in the van but there mostly in there for decoration. If we’re doing a bigger place like a stadium or college I’ll bring the rolling packout but I’m very blessed for a simple setup.
Seems like everyone is going to the style of bit storage with the flip out holders. Bought my last set of old style last year, metabo HPT and yeah it requires pliers to remove the small bits. I’ll try the method of taking a 1/4” drill to them or Dremel sander cone. But I’m tempted by Klein’s little $25 MODBOX bit set or the PACKOUT kits. What I don’t like about your DeWalt setup is getting into the middle box. With the MOD BOXes of course that’s not an issue. I’m slowly coming around to the idea of “permanent” home storage is boxes snapped onto a wall, and then stack them for mobility.
@@thenexthobby yeah how you get into the Modboxes is nice. I have since made myself a Packout bit holder and have several different toolbag and truck options. The Dewalt has become my home storage
You mentioned 3D in this video. I have one and I will say it has greatly improved my organizational skills. They are relativity inexpensive now. It has been a good edition to the workshop.
I tapped the corner of a mini pack out box and put a loop through the corner to hang my 2” bits on the side of my service bag I carry 2 handle storage screwdrivers for my 1” bits
You are right. I feel that way about all tools. You end up getting frustrated and then the job becomes a job… instead of something you may enjoy. Hard to stay positive when you get angry and want to throw stuff 😂😂
I just grabbed a shockwave bit case set and it does have the clear top now and slimmer and compact the. The old ones. Apparently locks into the pack out system. I also recommend the spider tool bit gripper to stick on your impact to keep up to 6 bits for whichever job or task your on with zero extra real estate
Yeah they are coming out with all new cases. The one you picked up is all I have seen in the stores so far. They have redone all their bit holders inside too where the drill bits will be easier to get in/out. They are more like the Dewalts. Supposedly the new cases will fit inside Packouts in place of the bins… but I’m hoping they eventually make Packout bins that just take the bit holders instead.That will be a better fit. The was a pretty good deal on the set you picked up… he clear top is much better
@@MORGANSMaintenance yes much improvement. I also take the red inserts of the old cases and put two or three on key rings on a carabiner and attach to the strap of the tool bag to also take no tool real estate up in the bag
@@ryanlavallee6342 yeah I’m not a big fan of a big bit case in my bag, I try to find creative ways to keep them. The Railer Bitrails I found and am using are pretty similar to what you are doing… you just were ahead of the game creating them yourself 😂
I use a magnetic parts tray for my most used bits. Those cheap chrome dog diah looking ones at any auto parts store or HD. I Use a rectangle one for my bits and a round one for screws. The magnet is strong enough to hold to the side of a tool box even while driving. And the bits stay put. I can take what I need or grab the whole tray
I keep one in my truck attached to my drawers in my backseat for the same reason. It’s where I throw the bits I’m using most right by my drills so I can just add them right then The cases I carry in primarily to job sites where I’m not sure what I will need and just want to take an assortment. Magnetic parts trays are some really useful things 👍
I recently bought those DeWalt med. size cases. It sits empty in back of truck. Thanks to this video I now have a use for it, thought I'd use it for ferrules and crimps. Did the craftsman come loaded with those drill-bit trays? Man my Can. Lowe's sucks. Terrible prices, bad selection for tools.
Nice to see what other guys do. I use the Milwaukee now. Like you, I hate them. Always cutting my fingers or using bad language! I’m gonna try DeWalt or Craftsman! Thank you.
Yeah, I love their drill bits and like their driver bits. I don’t like their cases. I’ve wanted Milwaukee to come out with a Packout already loaded up with bit holders… but if they did they would use the same one in there cases so it wouldn’t do any good 😂 The Dewalt and Craftsman are much easier. The slots are also easier to move around and customize cases for your needs too. One of my favorite parts of the channel so far is reading comments and learning from others what they do. We all do something a little different.. but parts of what we do always are interchangeable and can be helpful for each other. Thanks for spending the time to watch and make a comment. I appreciate it!
I like the Milwaukee drill bits too and just cut my finger the other day trying to get one out. I started just throwing the ones I use most in there loose.
That what I did before I switched to these… lol. I pulled them all out and used the case as a container., having to dig to find the one I wanted. Glad to know it’s not just me doing something wrong. 👍
Dewalt by far makes the best bit cases with removeable racks. I store all of my extra bits in the Dewalt ones. I completely agree on the Milwaukee drill bits being my favorite and hating the case. I carry a Ridgid bit case in my bag that only has the 2 inch bits, it holds 20+- and a bit holder. I just leave a hart locking bit extension or a Dewalt locking bit extension in my Impact at all times. I will make a video soon on my new tool bag setup, and show that.
I have switched over to the Dewalt locking extensions over the Milwaukee ones. I like the slimmer profile. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the video!
Great video! My bit storage is a mess, looks like I'm going to Lowe's. I got the Madpak belt clip you reviewed, love it. Please keep up the great videos!
I’m not sure I have it figured out either 😂😂 I like the Madpak so far as well. The owner of the company is really nice too. He just found my video and has been emailing me. He sent me another one as a thank you, so now I have one on my TP3 and Klein Bag without swapping them. Thanks for watching and the encouragement. I really appreciate the feedback!
Right now I’m at the 6 slot Milwaukee case stage. My tool bags have a pretty big pouch on one side that fits two of these perfectly. I’m not sure what else I could put in that pocket. It was made for a small part organizer to go in there. So I’m not really sacrificing tool space since it doesn’t hold hand tools efficiently. It’s true though. 99% of what you see is going to be #2 Phillips, #2 Robertson, T25, flathead, 1/4 hex nut, 5/16 hex nut. Occasionally things will be Allen key. So most of those 40 bit sets are just for rare events. That’s why I have a small bit holder clipped to the outside of my bag that has a Phillips, a square, a flat, and a t25. And any screwdrivers I have are already loaded up with Phillips or Torx bit.
I do the same thing with a Railer BitRail… I put my main bits in those so I am not carrying around a lot of things there is a pretty good chance I will not use to save space. Thanks for sharing what you do 👍👍
I have cut my fingers on those damn shockwave drill bits so many times. I just use the hercules ones from harbor freight. They work just as good as the milwaukee for me but longer and easier to get out.
I have basic bits in my parts box , full indexes are in my rolling cart ( Milwaukee Packout ) . Like you , I believe in functional groups ! For driver bits , I have various holders attached to my various compact tool pouches/ tool bags . I have a full index , 1/16-1/2 “ in my large Veto bag . My multibit drivers , always have full magazines . That said you have to “ Police” your bit inventory !
True… I do better keeping all my bits on my tools that store bits than putting them back in the cases. I usually get them back in eventually, but I need to do better. I usually have a magnet or something they ride on while I’m working and they may stay there longer than they need to. But if you don’t keep up with it you end up missing the ones you need… when you need them.
@@MORGANSMaintenance It’s a Chess game you can never win , but you sure as hell improve over time ! For example , as far as the most used machine screws , for me #6 and #8 , I pretty much only carry 2” , and shear them to size with my Knipex “ Super Strippers “ ( 13/72/8’s ) . As an added bonus , these are my 90% “ Lineman’s Pliers “ . I use zipper bags in pockets , or hung of “ D” rings . My Parts boxes of choice are the half width , shallow Packout compatible / stackables . I usually walk in with two clipped together , on a shoulder sling !
@@chrisfyfe9212 you may be the most organized man I know… but it helps that you are skilled enough to make your own pouches and things. I’ve started only carrying long 6 & 8’s too since it’s so easy with Forged Wire Strippers to cut them.
@@MORGANSMaintenance If you want/ need pouches , hit me up ! I’m pretty good at making stuff ! Another hack ( works if you wear Cargo pants ) , throw a zipperbag in a cargo pocket . Saves you trips to the rig !
I had the same problem with the Milwaukee drill bits being hard to get in and out of their cases. I ran a quarter inch drill bit took off a little bit of plastic in each insert world of difference..
Really enjoy watching your videos. I’ve been wanting to dive into my own maintenance business but just haven’t pushed myself enough I guess. I’ve worked construction for close to 20 years and now I have been working maintenance for close to 15 years. I’m so tired of working for “The Man”. Just want to do my own thing.
I do a mix of both on my own and “The Man”, but my “The Man” has been pretty good to work for. Really flexible…That’s not the case for a lot of them. I am leaning towards going out strictly on my own in the future as well though. Mostly just so I have more control over the work I decide to do. As I’m getting older I want to shift more into service work than bigger remodels. I enjoy it more, there is less packing of big materials and tools, less scheduling conflicts… working for myself I can always say, “you need to find someone else for that”. Can’t do that with “The Man” Thank you for watching and spending the time to comment! Always great to get to know the people who are watching.
@@DanO181919 There are positives and negatives to both self-employed and hourly. These days with the lack of people doing this work, self employment is becoming more of the way to go for a lot of people. It all depends on benefits you might lose and what you can swing. If you stay hourly you have to do more for the same money because there aren’t enough people and the work has to get done. If you are self employed you can make the money of getting the job done by however many people it would take… even if you work for yourself. For me though it would be more the freedom of decisions of work I would be doing… I’m like you though, I’ve though about it a lot but never taken the 100% plunge. I just keep dipping my toes in it.
Nice video. I use the larger DeWalt boxes for organization. Good to know the Craftsman boxes are compatible. Would be nice if DeWalt sold the inserts individually.
Yeah I know... I had to but several Boxes on Black Friday one year to get the inserts. I have found uses for most of them though. Thanks for checking out the video 👍👍
You might wanna look at the Velocity pro Gear Drill Pod I have one and it’s epic. All types of bit in one place in one case. Can’t do without it anyone
@@MORGANSMaintenance it’s a company out of the uk. They make tool bags and other tool related gear. Very high quality. Own two pieces of their gear and highly recommend them.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I use the NB100 as a service call out bag. And love it for that. The company is pushing social media a lot and the work with a bunch of social media channels on Instagram and UA-cam. Might be worth reaching out and seeing if they are willing to get you a sample. I’m not affiliated with them so I have no idea but I see there stuff a lot online and they seem to give it out a lot to creators. So who knows
Thank you for the great video. I use the low profile packout organizer with the 3D printed bins. It works great and you can customize it for anything you want to attach to your impact driver/drill. Otherwise Dewalt makes great cases as well. I agree with you, Milwaukee needs to improve those bit cases - they are a pain to use. Looking forward to more of your videos.
Thanks so much! I’m wanting to switch to Packouts myself, but I’d like to find bins that take the inserts I am using in my Dewalt cases. I thought I watched a JakeofAll video awhile back where he made them… but all I have seen are ones that take Milwaukee case parts.
There were some people that sold some that did for awhile, but I can’t ever find them searching anymore. I just ordered some pretty cool looking 3D Printed stuff that is on its way to my house. I’ll probably make a video for them.
I have a lot of those little cases as well. I’m thinking about going the route of the packout low profile organizer with the 3d printed bins. I like that craftsman drill bit case you have , I’ve got one but it’s smaller. Another brand to check out is Montana brand. They make some great products here in the US. Great video as always.👍🏻
Thanks, I Will check those out…. yeah I wish I had bought some more of those Double Craftsman’s. I think they were special sets and they don’t have those anymore. Thanks again for the suggestion, I always appreciate it!
@@chiphill4856 I wish I could find the Packout bins that took the Dewalt Inserts. They used to have them, but I haven’t been able to find any. I don’t want to use the Milwaukee but inserts.
In my general bag, I keep two of the Milwaukee bit cases. One for my customized assortment of hex bits and accessories and the second is that same hex drill bit set that you showed. I have to label the top of the cases to easily tell them apart when they are sitting in my bag. I agree that getting the bits in/out of those cases is a pain. I may have to try those Dewalt cases. Looks like you can get extra inserts on eBay.
They normally have them on sale at Lowes this time of year where you can get 4 cases worth of stuff for $30. The Craftsmen are identical too If they are cheaper,,, or you prefer red. Thanks for the eBay tip… that will be good if you are looking for specific inserts. Appreciate it 👍
Good tip 👍… They are about to come out with new cases that are going to fix the issue and work with Packout… I’m Norma sure when, but it’s supposed to be soon.
@@donotrobme9295 they are pretty much the only ones I buy anymore too. Makes it nice to be able to use them in everything. About the only drill bits I have that aren’t are Forster bits.
Yeah, I’m going to have to breakdown and get one of those one day, they have been highly recommended by a lot of people. Thanks for sharing what you use… I really appreciate it.
😂😂 I’m guessing that’s your method. It WILL work… I would probably just get mad every time I opened the box. That’s what organization does for me mostly (Bits or anything)… it makes me a little faster… sure, but it keeps me from trying to use something I shouldn’t and just makes things go smoother. This type of work has enough frustrations, might as well try and remove as many as possible.
I have a multi step process , basics on my person , all impact rated ( so they can swap ammo between hand drivers, and impacts . ) I have other bits 90% Milwaukee , spread between parts boxes , and some still in their original boxes , stored in my Packout . Grinder stuff , and oscillating Multitool bits , are in zipper bags . Security and weird bits are in my TPXXL , they live in leather cases , built around plastic organizer blocks ( labeled in black magic marker ) . Likewise Whia 26 in 1 bits + the 26 in 1 , and 14 in 1 drivers ( security, weird metric , and bog standard ) .
@@MORGANSMaintenance Happy to share ideas , I just want my brothers in Various trades to be as well prepared as possible ! P. S. , I really enjoy your channel !
I do collect tools… I enjoy having and using them and it’s “the thing” I spend my money on. We all have something. Most of my tools aren’t new. I work clean, I clean them, and I have a lot so they are in a rotation where each one doesn’t get used as much as someone who has just one. I also normally clean everything before I film them… kinda like combing your hair before a picture.. Appreciate your thoughts 👍
I keep my regular use bits loose in a small husky pouch. My drill bits also ride loose in a similar pouch. Like you I despise taking the Milwaukee drill bits out of that case I had to take them out with pliers to keep from cutting myself. Not super organized but takes up little space. My main bit storage case is a dewalt multi compartment case with the removable dividers, haven’t seen that for sale in almost 2 years.
I think I had one of those Dewalt cases at one time. No telling how many different cases I’ve used over the years. I’m lucky that I am always close to bulk or specialty supplies. So if I don’t have it on me it’s not a real big deal to go get it. I like to have certain things close to keep me from doing something I “shouldn’t” with what I have for the most part. 😂 I primarily use 4 bits… no need carrying a bunch all the time. Thanks for sharing what you do 👍
Are the dewalt bits and drills just as good as the Milwaukee? I just bought my first m18 power tool set, and now I’m searching to start getting impact bits. Was wondering if I should just get all dewalt since it’s cheaper as well?
I got mine in Lowes and they still had them in store last time I was in there. I haven’t been able to find them on their website or app to give a link (Lowes search feature is the worst). I got mine on clearance a long time ago, but they were $35 when I saw them. They have different bits in them than what I have in mine. I just used the case and holders to make my own set. I just tried searching again for Craftsman bits, craftsman bit case, craftsmen case, etc, and still can’t find it in their app. At my Lowes it has always been on the bottom shelf where the bit cases are. Sorry that I’m not a lot of help. Next time I’m in there I’ll see if I can get an item number.
I use two Systainers ( T-LOC SYS 1 BOX, 497694) with suitably arranged boxes. One systainer contains drive bits, small ratchets etc, the other all kinds of drill bits. I ALWAYS take these systainers with me. Bit holders are loose in one box/compartment. Small basic sockets (6-13 mm) are loose in the next box. All kinds of bits are grouped by type and hold in these plastic hex shank bit holders. While the systainers open from the top, I have immediate access to everything I need. I don't like closed boxes within boxes within boxes - there's too much fuss with fast access to bits. Besides usually these boxes hold the bits too loose or too tight. For home/garage use I just have proper sets of rather basic bits, drill bits, sockets that NEVER leave the house. No matter what. There's nothing more American than bullet case storing bits. I wouldn't thought of it. Icelandic language have 46 descriptions of snow, because of snow "popularity" in the region. Same applies to guns and gun accessories in the USA.
I have never had any Festool Systainers.. they just aren’t easily accessible where I live to see them in person. Amazon now at least make some available where if it’s not what you expected you can at least return and swap. (I’m always a “like to see it” person) I used to have several Bosch L-Boxes and they had an organizer setup close to yours. Yours seems to be unavailable now, (or at least to me here) but Festool does have some newer versions that are similar. I also have Home/Garage tools that never leave. When they do, it never fails that they don’t make it back when I need them. Sounds like a great setup that works for you. I have yet to find the sweet spot between having too little and too much. I always try not to carry too much… but I also despise not having what I need. It might need to look into 1-2 bigger organizers and just carry them in, instead of deciding which smaller ones I need with the chance of missing something. Thanks for sharing and spending the time to type it out in detail. LOTS of useful information there.
@@MORGANSMaintenance New Systainer3 system has some flaws. I use four types of systainer systems. Two old ones (1st gen), mostly Makita Makpacs and old Festools. 4-point closing and mounting solution does not allow for an immediate access to stacked boxes. Makita tools comes with them, but I use it as a ordinary garage storage or a very backup/very emergency storage in work. 2nd gen of systainers (T-loc) is my favourite. 3rd gen - I am forced to buy them now, but I avoid some models. 3rd gen comes in two sizes - middle and large, but I use only middle. They have that humanly sizes base dimensions (30x40 cm or like 1x1,5 bananas). There are also mini-systainers, stackable however they're not compatible with the others; I used to get them as a merch and I've always been giving them away. Both 2nd and 3rd gens give you the access to any of the stacked box in the stack. I also have some drawers, but they're not my favourite. I never liked L-Boxx system because they were too bulky. That sounds funny compared to Pack-outs. The only problem with systainers is that you need to have at least 8 of them plus a cart and at least two less regular ones to see the benefit of the system. So like (taking 3rd gen): 2x112, 1x137, 2x187, 2x237, 1x337, 1x437 (great for silicones stored vertically with caps on!), one T-LOC SYS-1 box (internal boxes may be bought in separate sets and rearranged, to appreciate their usefulness buying four of them it the way to go), one T-LOC SYS-MFT (great ad-lib work bench) and a cart (SYS-RB 204869, avoid older models, newer are much better, although not compatible with 1st gen). You could also get systainer trolley (both Festool and Makita are good). So we're talking about $400-700 for starters. One very important thing - systainers are much less rugged and a bit less durable than packouts. They're also MUCH smaller. I always joked that systainers are for an European men of culture and packouts... Well, packouts are not... It's like with European and American cars. 3rd gen I really detest is Festool Systainer Organizer SYS3 ORG M 89. Unstackable (except at the very top), useless POS without top handle and a front handle that collides with T-loc closing bracket when stacked. And one last thing 1st and 2nd gens have the same incremental heights, while 3rd gen is all f..... up. So if you had shelves/cabinets arranged for the older system, you can go and f...ricking rearrange all that for the new system. In theory 3rd gens are meant to be for work van shelving and racks. In theory.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I didn’t care for the L-boxes either. I kept getting them with my tools when I was running primarily Bosch stuff. yeah most tradesmen in the USA need durable stuff or it won’t make it. A lot of that is because they work for companies and they are provided with the stuff. People tend to not take care of things that they don’t pay for. (Not always, but usually) I have noticed that the people who are finish carpenters are more the Systainer users here. Job sites aren’t as ruff at that point. I had originally thought about getting some because they would lock onto my vacuum, but the top on my vacuum was broken when I got it (part of the reason I got a great deal on it). After looking at the prices on them, you are right… it’s an investment. I thought Packout was expensive 😂. But if it works…it is always money well spent. You gave me enough Model numbers and things to look at I’m not sure I’ll get much else done today 😂😂👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm assuming you have CLEANTEC CTL 26 vacuum. So the part number should be Festool 204040. It's around $50. Worth buying, because it also acts as a hose storage.
@@Stefan_Kawalec it’s the 26, I just found it for $55 shipped to me and ordered. Thanks for the part #. It will be nice to hold my hose, I currently use straps on a handle. This one said it is a newer reenforced version. Maybe they fixed something that is the reason the other broke? I’m not sure how it broke, it was already broke when I got it.
@@Cintury all my bigger bits I just keep in their cases or in a drawer in my garage. In my work I typically know what I’m getting into and just load them in my truck per job. The bigger bits aren’t something I carry all the time.
Engineer Pliers or an Engineer person… you need at least one’s help to get the bits out 😂😂😂 All the 3D print stuff I find for Packout bins are to use the bit holders out of Milwaukee cases… I’m like who wants to use those 🤷♂️ Glad to know it’s not just me, I’ve always wondered if I was just doing it wrong. Glad to hear from you. Hope you have been doing well 👍
Indeed, they are a pain that so many of us force ourselves to go through. I need to see if I can do something to them to make the flip-up operation easier. If I can't, then DeWalt is the answer, per this video.
Never knew how thses dewalt organizers worked/stacked together. Thats a game changer! I jave a few of these and will no longer ignore them when they are on sale. Awesome! Thank you!
Yeah… they even have a even bigger one that you can stack two of the biggest ones I have on top of.
I know the Dewalt and Craftsman stack together… someone told me the Irwin brand does too.
Huge fan of the Vessel 30 + 1 bit set, very compact with a great selection of high quality bits. I take it with me to every job. It's a little expensive but I've bought more than one, enough said.
I’ve been eyeballing that myself
Appreciate the suggestion 👍
Wow I like the setup - I’m in the process of organizing my collection at the house because I have stuff in the garage and in the basement. I then have to bring my tools to the farm or the kid’s houses. The bits and sockets in yellow and the drill bits in the red case is genius. Thank you.
👍👍. You are welcome. Yeah working from multiple places, whatever you need is always somewhere else 😂
I know this video is a year old, but Milwaukee has recently redesigned their bit holders and boxes.... the boxes now fit the pack-out boxes better and the bit holders are front loading rather than the older "top loading" style... if that makes sense.
I love the .22 case idea for 1" bits... and they are cheap! ... about $3-$4.
Would be nice if they had deeper boxes just like them for 2/3/4" bits, but ill have to stop by the gun shop and see if their magnum case holders will fit longer bits efficiently.
I appreciate the review and discussion!
👍👍. The Milwaukee cases have improved dramatically
Very beautiful useful sets readt to work in any field of work i liked the collection.
Appreciate that… and thanks for watching 👍
22lr container is a great idea!!
@@Tony-wo4hz works great… and very cheap. I keep one on my workbench 👍
Montana drill bits and cases are awesome. Bought all they had at Menards last time I went
Milwaukee should be embarrassed for making a case like they have
@@RogerVannausdle yeah, I haven’t met anyone who likes them. You are the second person to recommend the Montana cases. We were supposed to get a Menards near me then Covid hit and it fell through. I will have to check those out next time I am by one.
Thanks for the suggestion 👍
Great system. I've outfitted a couple of Packout compact organizers the same way you did with your Craftsman drill bit case. Just have to buy 3d printed bins that allow you to lock in your existing bit holder rails. I love having all of my specialty drill bits in one place 👍🏻
@@toolswithtim I have ordered some 3D stuff for packout too. It works out really nice 👍
I bought 2 of those 6 pc socket style keyring style carbine type bit holders that clip on my belt,and also applied the rubber spider brand 3 bit holders to each of my 4 impact drivers and leave 3 of the most common bits I use right on my drill,then toss a bit box in my drill bag when I need an odd bit on occasion
Those socket style bit holders are nice 👍👍
I love those little Red Rubber cubes that hold (32 bits) in a 2"x 3" Cube
I have a security but set is something like that. They work pretty good.
Thanks for sharing 👍
In my right tool belt pouch I keep a Klein multi-bit screwdriver (12? insert bits in the handle) holding a 6" locking Milwaukee locking impact bit holder. I keep a slim 3" DeWalt locking bit holder in my M12 Surge, which also has a small magnetic bit rail attached to it. I also keep a 6" DeWalt sllim bit holder in my left tool belt pouch and a 12" in my bag. I have a Railer hanging off my tool belt, which holds my short nut drivers. It's very rare that I need to go to my bag or van. Not too heavy.
That’s kinda how I keep bits in my bags… I usually have everything I need with me.
I keep the bigger cases in my garage and truck with either refills or not so common drivers.
We are much alike my friend 👍
The .22 case is very clever. Thanks.
Works great and is very cheap… I can’t take credit for it, I believe I saw it on LastBestTool.
@@MORGANSMaintenance You brought it to me. Thanks.
Dewalt cases are the best💯👏👏👏👏👏
I like them myself 👍👍
I’m very thankful with my line of work I only need to carry that little Milwaukee bit case and a Malco flip socket. I also carry a security bit set but I leave it in the van. Great video.
That is pretty sweet. I want to move into more service work for that reason. I want to get to the point where I pretty much use my Veto Bag and an occasional Power Tool.
I've often wondered sometimes how much money I could have saved on tools if I only did one specific field or specific job. Then I know myself enough, that I would just spend the same money buying every single tool within that field 😂😂
Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification on this one.
@@MORGANSMaintenance for 90% of my job I get away with my Tech MCT, M12 Surge, and a step ladder. I have bigger tools in the van but there mostly in there for decoration. If we’re doing a bigger place like a stadium or college I’ll bring the rolling packout but I’m very blessed for a simple setup.
@@ARod1108 👍
Seems like everyone is going to the style of bit storage with the flip out holders. Bought my last set of old style last year, metabo HPT and yeah it requires pliers to remove the small bits.
I’ll try the method of taking a 1/4” drill to them or Dremel sander cone. But I’m tempted by Klein’s little $25 MODBOX bit set or the PACKOUT kits.
What I don’t like about your DeWalt setup is getting into the middle box. With the MOD BOXes of course that’s not an issue.
I’m slowly coming around to the idea of “permanent” home storage is boxes snapped onto a wall, and then stack them for mobility.
@@thenexthobby yeah how you get into the Modboxes is nice. I have since made myself a Packout bit holder and have several different toolbag and truck options. The Dewalt has become my home storage
I love small boxes that are solid
👍… the little 22 box a lot of people like.
You mentioned 3D in this video. I have one and I will say it has greatly improved my organizational skills. They are relativity inexpensive now. It has been a good edition to the workshop.
I haven’t looked into it much… it would be nice to be able to just print things you need.
I tapped the corner of a mini pack out box and put a loop through the corner to hang my 2” bits on the side of my service bag I carry 2 handle storage screwdrivers for my 1” bits
@@justinhaynes7860 nice 👍👍
Great video by the way, you read my mind ~~ there isn't a bigger waste of time than trying to find your bits in a pile of tools !
You are right. I feel that way about all tools. You end up getting frustrated and then the job becomes a job… instead of something you may enjoy.
Hard to stay positive when you get angry and want to throw stuff 😂😂
I just grabbed a shockwave bit case set and it does have the clear top now and slimmer and compact the. The old ones. Apparently locks into the pack out system. I also recommend the spider tool bit gripper to stick on your impact to keep up to 6 bits for whichever job or task your on with zero extra real estate
Yeah they are coming out with all new cases. The one you picked up is all I have seen in the stores so far.
They have redone all their bit holders inside too where the drill bits will be easier to get in/out. They are more like the Dewalts.
Supposedly the new cases will fit inside Packouts in place of the bins… but I’m hoping they eventually make Packout bins that just take the bit holders instead.That will be a better fit.
The was a pretty good deal on the set you picked up… he clear top is much better
@@MORGANSMaintenance yes much improvement. I also take the red inserts of the old cases and put two or three on key rings on a carabiner and attach to the strap of the tool bag to also take no tool real estate up in the bag
@@ryanlavallee6342 yeah I’m not a big fan of a big bit case in my bag, I try to find creative ways to keep them. The Railer Bitrails I found and am using are pretty similar to what you are doing… you just were ahead of the game creating them yourself 😂
I use a magnetic parts tray for my most used bits. Those cheap chrome dog diah looking ones at any auto parts store or HD. I Use a rectangle one for my bits and a round one for screws. The magnet is strong enough to hold to the side of a tool box even while driving. And the bits stay put. I can take what I need or grab the whole tray
I keep one in my truck attached to my drawers in my backseat for the same reason. It’s where I throw the bits I’m using most right by my drills so I can just add them right then
The cases I carry in primarily to job sites where I’m not sure what I will need and just want to take an assortment.
Magnetic parts trays are some really useful things 👍
I recently bought those DeWalt med. size cases. It sits empty in back of truck. Thanks to this video I now have a use for it, thought I'd use it for ferrules and crimps. Did the craftsman come loaded with those drill-bit trays? Man my Can. Lowe's sucks. Terrible prices, bad selection for tools.
@@Mack_Dingo it came with some of the trays, and a added some to it as well
Nice to see what other guys do. I use the Milwaukee now. Like you, I hate them. Always cutting my fingers or using bad language! I’m gonna try DeWalt or Craftsman! Thank you.
Yeah, I love their drill bits and like their driver bits. I don’t like their cases. I’ve wanted Milwaukee to come out with a Packout already loaded up with bit holders… but if they did they would use the same one in there cases so it wouldn’t do any good 😂
The Dewalt and Craftsman are much easier. The slots are also easier to move around and customize cases for your needs too.
One of my favorite parts of the channel so far is reading comments and learning from others what they do. We all do something a little different.. but parts of what we do always are interchangeable and can be helpful for each other.
Thanks for spending the time to watch and make a comment. I appreciate it!
I like the Milwaukee drill bits too and just cut my finger the other day trying to get one out. I started just throwing the ones I use most in there loose.
That what I did before I switched to these… lol. I pulled them all out and used the case as a container., having to dig to find the one I wanted.
Glad to know it’s not just me doing something wrong. 👍
Dewalt by far makes the best bit cases with removeable racks. I store all of my extra bits in the Dewalt ones. I completely agree on the Milwaukee drill bits being my favorite and hating the case. I carry a Ridgid bit case in my bag that only has the 2 inch bits, it holds 20+- and a bit holder. I just leave a hart locking bit extension or a Dewalt locking bit extension in my Impact at all times. I will make a video soon on my new tool bag setup, and show that.
I have switched over to the Dewalt locking extensions over the Milwaukee ones. I like the slimmer profile.
Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the video!
Great video! My bit storage is a mess, looks like I'm going to Lowe's. I got the Madpak belt clip you reviewed, love it. Please keep up the great videos!
I’m not sure I have it figured out either 😂😂
I like the Madpak so far as well. The owner of the company is really nice too. He just found my video and has been emailing me. He sent me another one as a thank you, so now I have one on my TP3 and Klein Bag without swapping them.
Thanks for watching and the encouragement. I really appreciate the feedback!
Love the 22lr case idea!
I saw that on Last Best Tool’s Channel. Holds a lot of bits for just a few bucks. 👍
Right now I’m at the 6 slot Milwaukee case stage. My tool bags have a pretty big pouch on one side that fits two of these perfectly. I’m not sure what else I could put in that pocket. It was made for a small part organizer to go in there. So I’m not really sacrificing tool space since it doesn’t hold hand tools efficiently.
It’s true though. 99% of what you see is going to be #2 Phillips, #2 Robertson, T25, flathead, 1/4 hex nut, 5/16 hex nut. Occasionally things will be Allen key. So most of those 40 bit sets are just for rare events.
That’s why I have a small bit holder clipped to the outside of my bag that has a Phillips, a square, a flat, and a t25. And any screwdrivers I have are already loaded up with Phillips or Torx bit.
I do the same thing with a Railer BitRail… I put my main bits in those so I am not carrying around a lot of things there is a pretty good chance I will not use to save space.
Thanks for sharing what you do 👍👍
I have cut my fingers on those damn shockwave drill bits so many times. I just use the hercules ones from harbor freight. They work just as good as the milwaukee for me but longer and easier to get out.
Me too.. they have changed their cases now. The newer versions are more like the Dewalt.
I have basic bits in my parts box , full indexes are in my rolling cart ( Milwaukee Packout ) . Like you , I believe in functional groups ! For driver bits , I have various holders attached to my various compact tool pouches/ tool bags . I have a full index , 1/16-1/2 “ in my large Veto bag . My multibit drivers , always have full magazines . That said you have to “ Police” your bit inventory !
True… I do better keeping all my bits on my tools that store bits than putting them back in the cases. I usually get them back in eventually, but I need to do better. I usually have a magnet or something they ride on while I’m working and they may stay there longer than they need to.
But if you don’t keep up with it you end up missing the ones you need… when you need them.
@@MORGANSMaintenance It’s a Chess game you can never win , but you sure as hell improve over time ! For example , as far as the most used machine screws , for me #6 and #8 , I pretty much only carry 2” , and shear them to size with my Knipex “ Super Strippers “ ( 13/72/8’s ) . As an added bonus , these are my 90% “ Lineman’s Pliers “ . I use zipper bags in pockets , or hung of “ D” rings . My Parts boxes of choice are the half width , shallow Packout compatible / stackables . I usually walk in with two clipped together , on a shoulder sling !
@@chrisfyfe9212 you may be the most organized man I know… but it helps that you are skilled enough to make your own pouches and things.
I’ve started only carrying long 6 & 8’s too since it’s so easy with Forged Wire Strippers to cut them.
@@MORGANSMaintenance If you want/ need pouches , hit me up ! I’m pretty good at making stuff ! Another hack ( works if you wear Cargo pants ) , throw a zipperbag in a cargo pocket . Saves you trips to the rig !
@@MORGANSMaintenance I also “ Post Mortem “ jobs , try to sort out what went as planned , what you should have been carrying , etc .
I had the same problem with the Milwaukee drill bits being hard to get in and out of their cases. I ran a quarter inch drill bit took off a little bit of plastic in each insert world of difference..
👍… good tip.
I know there new cases seem to be more like the Dewalt. So hopefully my future sets won’t be as bad.
Really enjoy watching your videos. I’ve been wanting to dive into my own maintenance business but just haven’t pushed myself enough I guess. I’ve worked construction for close to 20 years and now I have been working maintenance for close to 15 years. I’m so tired of working for “The Man”. Just want to do my own thing.
I do a mix of both on my own and “The Man”, but my “The Man” has been pretty good to work for. Really flexible…That’s not the case for a lot of them.
I am leaning towards going out strictly on my own in the future as well though. Mostly just so I have more control over the work I decide to do.
As I’m getting older I want to shift more into service work than bigger remodels. I enjoy it more, there is less packing of big materials and tools, less scheduling conflicts… working for myself I can always say, “you need to find someone else for that”. Can’t do that with “The Man”
Thank you for watching and spending the time to comment! Always great to get to know the people who are watching.
@@MORGANSMaintenance I worked for family for during my construction years, but now I work for a corporation.
@@DanO181919 There are positives and negatives to both self-employed and hourly.
These days with the lack of people doing this work, self employment is becoming more of the way to go for a lot of people. It all depends on benefits you might lose and what you can swing.
If you stay hourly you have to do more for the same money because there aren’t enough people and the work has to get done. If you are self employed you can make the money of getting the job done by however many people it would take… even if you work for yourself.
For me though it would be more the freedom of decisions of work I would be doing…
I’m like you though, I’ve though about it a lot but never taken the 100% plunge. I just keep dipping my toes in it.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Good Luck to you!! Appreciate the conversation. Have a good Independence Day! 🎇
@@DanO181919 You too! 👍
Thanks for take your time and do this video.
Your welcome! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment 👍
Smart organization system!! Thankyou!👍👍✅
Thanks for watching!
Nice video. I use the larger DeWalt boxes for organization. Good to know the Craftsman boxes are compatible.
Would be nice if DeWalt sold the inserts individually.
Yeah I know... I had to but several Boxes on Black Friday one year to get the inserts. I have found uses for most of them though.
Thanks for checking out the video 👍👍
Nice job man. It’s cool to see how other people do this stuff. I love that Bosch case with the magnet on it. I’ve never seen that before.
I have had it forever. I think it was a Lowes deal but not sure. I used to have 3 but I’m down to one.
Very impressive.
Appreciate it 👍👍
You might wanna look at the Velocity pro Gear Drill Pod
I have one and it’s epic. All types of bit in one place in one case. Can’t do without it anyone
I will look that up… thanks 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance it’s a company out of the uk. They make tool bags and other tool related gear. Very high quality. Own two pieces of their gear and highly recommend them.
@@robholland5925 I have looked at their bags before (in videos). They do look pretty nice 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I use the NB100 as a service call out bag. And love it for that.
The company is pushing social media a lot and the work with a bunch of social media channels on Instagram and UA-cam. Might be worth reaching out and seeing if they are willing to get you a sample. I’m not affiliated with them so I have no idea but I see there stuff a lot online and they seem to give it out a lot to creators. So who knows
Thank you for the great video. I use the low profile packout organizer with the 3D printed bins. It works great and you can customize it for anything you want to attach to your impact driver/drill. Otherwise Dewalt makes great cases as well. I agree with you, Milwaukee needs to improve those bit cases - they are a pain to use. Looking forward to more of your videos.
Thanks so much!
I’m wanting to switch to Packouts myself, but I’d like to find bins that take the inserts I am using in my Dewalt cases. I thought I watched a JakeofAll video awhile back where he made them… but all I have seen are ones that take Milwaukee case parts.
Thanks for making the video.
You are welcome my friend…
Appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment 👍
I wonder if the dewalt bit holders would fit in those 3D printed packout bins that the Milwaukee bit holders go into
There were some people that sold some that did for awhile, but I can’t ever find them searching anymore.
I just ordered some pretty cool looking 3D Printed stuff that is on its way to my house. I’ll probably make a video for them.
I have a lot of those little cases as well. I’m thinking about going the route of the packout low profile organizer with the 3d printed bins. I like that craftsman drill bit case you have , I’ve got one but it’s smaller. Another brand to check out is Montana brand. They make some great products here in the US. Great video as always.👍🏻
Thanks, I Will check those out…. yeah I wish I had bought some more of those Double Craftsman’s. I think they were special sets and they don’t have those anymore.
Thanks again for the suggestion, I always appreciate it!
Packout with custom inserts ftw!
@@chiphill4856 I wish I could find the Packout bins that took the Dewalt Inserts. They used to have them, but I haven’t been able to find any. I don’t want to use the Milwaukee but inserts.
In my general bag, I keep two of the Milwaukee bit cases. One for my customized assortment of hex bits and accessories and the second is that same hex drill bit set that you showed. I have to label the top of the cases to easily tell them apart when they are sitting in my bag. I agree that getting the bits in/out of those cases is a pain. I may have to try those Dewalt cases. Looks like you can get extra inserts on eBay.
They normally have them on sale at Lowes this time of year where you can get 4 cases worth of stuff for $30. The Craftsmen are identical too If they are cheaper,,, or you prefer red.
Thanks for the eBay tip… that will be good if you are looking for specific inserts. Appreciate it 👍
On the milwaukee shockwave drill bit cases take a dremel with a cylindrical grinding bit to make the square holes oversize
Good tip 👍… They are about to come out with new cases that are going to fix the issue and work with Packout… I’m Norma sure when, but it’s supposed to be soon.
For me, if the drill bit Doesn’t fit in a 1/4” driver then I pass. I get people saying it’ll break but for me it’s working and it’s quick
@@donotrobme9295 they are pretty much the only ones I buy anymore too. Makes it nice to be able to use them in everything. About the only drill bits I have that aren’t are Forster bits.
I use the sera bit check comes with lots of good bit and the rapadaptor . Fits In my veto mct beautifully.
Yeah, I’m going to have to breakdown and get one of those one day, they have been highly recommended by a lot of people.
Thanks for sharing what you use… I really appreciate it.
Yes, the Wera bit check products pack a big punch in limited space. Doesn't hurt that they come with some of the best bits available on earth.
@@rachavya yet one mor person to push me towards getting one 😂
So … you don’t seem like a cigar box full of bits held closed with a rubber band would work?
😂😂 I’m guessing that’s your method.
It WILL work… I would probably just get mad every time I opened the box.
That’s what organization does for me mostly (Bits or anything)… it makes me a little faster… sure, but it keeps me from trying to use something I shouldn’t and just makes things go smoother. This type of work has enough frustrations, might as well try and remove as many as possible.
Good stuff man
Appreciate that buddy 👍
@3:48 What did you replace in the Klein multi tool? Just wondering if it was a failure, lost, or better bit?
I think you answered my question talking about the DeWalt security case
@@blaquejaque9702 yeah I just swapped out some Torx with Torx security
I know this is an old video. But about the 3D Printers. Check if your city library has one, many do these days.
👍👍.. I’m not even sure if we have a library 😂… but worth looking into.
Thanks
I have a multi step process , basics on my person , all impact rated ( so they can swap ammo between hand drivers, and impacts . ) I have other bits 90% Milwaukee , spread between parts boxes , and some still in their original boxes , stored in my Packout . Grinder stuff , and oscillating Multitool bits , are in zipper bags . Security and weird bits are in my TPXXL , they live in leather cases , built around plastic organizer blocks ( labeled in black magic marker ) . Likewise Whia 26 in 1 bits + the 26 in 1 , and 14 in 1 drivers ( security, weird metric , and bog standard ) .
Sounds like you have it figured out! Thanks for taking the time to share what you do.
@@MORGANSMaintenance Happy to share ideas , I just want my brothers in Various trades to be as well prepared as possible ! P. S. , I really enjoy your channel !
@@chrisfyfe9212 thanks brother 👍
Dude all brand new, you one of them collectors
I do collect tools… I enjoy having and using them and it’s “the thing” I spend my money on. We all have something.
Most of my tools aren’t new. I work clean, I clean them, and I have a lot so they are in a rotation where each one doesn’t get used as much as someone who has just one.
I also normally clean everything before I film them… kinda like combing your hair before a picture..
Appreciate your thoughts 👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I am a tool freak myself :) , thnx for sharing
@@oal2928 👍
Hey what brand are those automatic centering drills or are they part of the craftsman box
They are Bosch brand… they weren’t in the box amzn.to/4bw7q7g
Nice
Thank You 👍
I keep my regular use bits loose in a small husky pouch. My drill bits also ride loose in a similar pouch. Like you I despise taking the Milwaukee drill bits out of that case I had to take them out with pliers to keep from cutting myself. Not super organized but takes up little space. My main bit storage case is a dewalt multi compartment case with the removable dividers, haven’t seen that for sale in almost 2 years.
I think I had one of those Dewalt cases at one time. No telling how many different cases I’ve used over the years.
I’m lucky that I am always close to bulk or specialty supplies. So if I don’t have it on me it’s not a real big deal to go get it. I like to have certain things close to keep me from doing something I “shouldn’t” with what I have for the most part. 😂 I primarily use 4 bits… no need carrying a bunch all the time.
Thanks for sharing what you do 👍
Are the dewalt bits and drills just as good as the Milwaukee? I just bought my first m18 power tool set, and now I’m searching to start getting impact bits. Was wondering if I should just get all dewalt since it’s cheaper as well?
I don’t feel like there is a significant difference between the two. I normally get whichever ones are on sale, or has a case I like better.
I am not having any luck locating the craftsman case with the trays. Did another tool set come in that case or something ? Thanks!
I got mine in Lowes and they still had them in store last time I was in there. I haven’t been able to find them on their website or app to give a link (Lowes search feature is the worst).
I got mine on clearance a long time ago, but they were $35 when I saw them. They have different bits in them than what I have in mine. I just used the case and holders to make my own set.
I just tried searching again for Craftsman bits, craftsman bit case, craftsmen case, etc, and still can’t find it in their app.
At my Lowes it has always been on the bottom shelf where the bit cases are. Sorry that I’m not a lot of help. Next time I’m in there I’ll see if I can get an item number.
Found the craftsman case at Lowes. It’s on sale right now for 24.99
@@Rrhode23 thanks… I will check mine. I have seen it since the video but it was $39. That was awhile back though.
Thanks again 👍
2 is one and one is none. When it come to bits and tools.
Good philosophy 👍
How do you remove the black bit holder from the original DeWalt case?
They just pull out.. they go into the grooves on the side of the case
I use two Systainers ( T-LOC SYS 1 BOX, 497694) with suitably arranged boxes. One systainer contains drive bits, small ratchets etc, the other all kinds of drill bits. I ALWAYS take these systainers with me. Bit holders are loose in one box/compartment. Small basic sockets (6-13 mm) are loose in the next box. All kinds of bits are grouped by type and hold in these plastic hex shank bit holders. While the systainers open from the top, I have immediate access to everything I need. I don't like closed boxes within boxes within boxes - there's too much fuss with fast access to bits. Besides usually these boxes hold the bits too loose or too tight.
For home/garage use I just have proper sets of rather basic bits, drill bits, sockets that NEVER leave the house. No matter what.
There's nothing more American than bullet case storing bits. I wouldn't thought of it. Icelandic language have 46 descriptions of snow, because of snow "popularity" in the region. Same applies to guns and gun accessories in the USA.
I have never had any Festool Systainers.. they just aren’t easily accessible where I live to see them in person. Amazon now at least make some available where if it’s not what you expected you can at least return and swap. (I’m always a “like to see it” person)
I used to have several Bosch L-Boxes and they had an organizer setup close to yours. Yours seems to be unavailable now, (or at least to me here) but Festool does have some newer versions that are similar.
I also have Home/Garage tools that never leave. When they do, it never fails that they don’t make it back when I need them.
Sounds like a great setup that works for you. I have yet to find the sweet spot between having too little and too much. I always try not to carry too much… but I also despise not having what I need. It might need to look into 1-2 bigger organizers and just carry them in, instead of deciding which smaller ones I need with the chance of missing something.
Thanks for sharing and spending the time to type it out in detail. LOTS of useful information there.
@@MORGANSMaintenance New Systainer3 system has some flaws. I use four types of systainer systems. Two old ones (1st gen), mostly Makita Makpacs and old Festools. 4-point closing and mounting solution does not allow for an immediate access to stacked boxes. Makita tools comes with them, but I use it as a ordinary garage storage or a very backup/very emergency storage in work. 2nd gen of systainers (T-loc) is my favourite. 3rd gen - I am forced to buy them now, but I avoid some models. 3rd gen comes in two sizes - middle and large, but I use only middle. They have that humanly sizes base dimensions (30x40 cm or like 1x1,5 bananas). There are also mini-systainers, stackable however they're not compatible with the others; I used to get them as a merch and I've always been giving them away. Both 2nd and 3rd gens give you the access to any of the stacked box in the stack. I also have some drawers, but they're not my favourite.
I never liked L-Boxx system because they were too bulky. That sounds funny compared to Pack-outs.
The only problem with systainers is that you need to have at least 8 of them plus a cart and at least two less regular ones to see the benefit of the system. So like (taking 3rd gen): 2x112, 1x137, 2x187, 2x237, 1x337, 1x437 (great for silicones stored vertically with caps on!), one T-LOC SYS-1 box (internal boxes may be bought in separate sets and rearranged, to appreciate their usefulness buying four of them it the way to go), one T-LOC SYS-MFT (great ad-lib work bench) and a cart (SYS-RB 204869, avoid older models, newer are much better, although not compatible with 1st gen). You could also get systainer trolley (both Festool and Makita are good). So we're talking about $400-700 for starters.
One very important thing - systainers are much less rugged and a bit less durable than packouts. They're also MUCH smaller. I always joked that systainers are for an European men of culture and packouts... Well, packouts are not... It's like with European and American cars.
3rd gen I really detest is Festool Systainer Organizer SYS3 ORG M 89. Unstackable (except at the very top), useless POS without top handle and a front handle that collides with T-loc closing bracket when stacked.
And one last thing 1st and 2nd gens have the same incremental heights, while 3rd gen is all f..... up. So if you had shelves/cabinets arranged for the older system, you can go and f...ricking rearrange all that for the new system. In theory 3rd gens are meant to be for work van shelving and racks. In theory.
@@Stefan_Kawalec I didn’t care for the L-boxes either. I kept getting them with my tools when I was running primarily Bosch stuff.
yeah most tradesmen in the USA need durable stuff or it won’t make it. A lot of that is because they work for companies and they are provided with the stuff. People tend to not take care of things that they don’t pay for. (Not always, but usually)
I have noticed that the people who are finish carpenters are more the Systainer users here. Job sites aren’t as ruff at that point.
I had originally thought about getting some because they would lock onto my vacuum, but the top on my vacuum was broken when I got it (part of the reason I got a great deal on it).
After looking at the prices on them, you are right… it’s an investment. I thought Packout was expensive 😂. But if it works…it is always money well spent.
You gave me enough Model numbers and things to look at I’m not sure I’ll get much else done today 😂😂👍
@@MORGANSMaintenance I'm assuming you have CLEANTEC CTL 26 vacuum. So the part number should be Festool 204040. It's around $50. Worth buying, because it also acts as a hose storage.
@@Stefan_Kawalec it’s the 26, I just found it for $55 shipped to me and ordered. Thanks for the part #.
It will be nice to hold my hose, I currently use straps on a handle. This one said it is a newer reenforced version. Maybe they fixed something that is the reason the other broke? I’m not sure how it broke, it was already broke when I got it.
How do you store 6.5” auger drill bits?
@@Cintury all my bigger bits I just keep in their cases or in a drawer in my garage.
In my work I typically know what I’m getting into and just load them in my truck per job. The bigger bits aren’t something I carry all the time.
@@MORGANSMaintenance okay that makes sense. I just got the 6-pack of Spyder Stinger power bits and I’m just working out the plastic it came in.
Oh god the Milwaukee drill bit case is absolutely horrible! Can’t agree enough. Throw some engineers at the problem!
Engineer Pliers or an Engineer person… you need at least one’s help to get the bits out 😂😂😂
All the 3D print stuff I find for Packout bins are to use the bit holders out of Milwaukee cases… I’m like who wants to use those 🤷♂️
Glad to know it’s not just me, I’ve always wondered if I was just doing it wrong.
Glad to hear from you. Hope you have been doing well 👍
Indeed, they are a pain that so many of us force ourselves to go through. I need to see if I can do something to them to make the flip-up operation easier. If I can't, then DeWalt is the answer, per this video.