My HONEST Thoughts About SILVER WOLF, LUOCHA & YUKONG... Patch 1.1 Characters, Light Cones & Events

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    Intro 00:00
    Silverwolf 00:13
    Luocha 4:36
    Yukong 7:31
    1.1 Banners 9:22
    Lightcones 9:45
    Events 14:13
    New features 15:41
    Outro 16:23
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  • @AdamTuxTengler
    @AdamTuxTengler 11 місяців тому +737

    Luocha would be good with some hypothetical wind destruction character, that likes to remove half of his HP to buff his damage, which triggers the free automatic use of Luocha's skill, huh? :D

    • @lowkey_Ioki
      @lowkey_Ioki 11 місяців тому +196

      If only such a character existed. And if only that character had a 3 turn buff as his tactical, meaning he's SP-positive, which would mean you can use yukong's skill every turn.
      Man... If only, huh...

    • @Froshe
      @Froshe 11 місяців тому +81

      Imagine if he didn’t use skill points but instead use his health and even gives back a skill point for basic attack at E6

    • @pepsodon
      @pepsodon 11 місяців тому +5

      u mean dragon dan heng?

    • @diren-oh6zw
      @diren-oh6zw 11 місяців тому +96

      ​@@pepsodon yea dragon den Heng is totally wind for sure

    • @starfield19
      @starfield19 11 місяців тому +30

      @@diren-oh6zw no, dragon dan heng is imaginary. Instead, blade will be who unlock his potential playstyle with luocha

  • @xadi4593
    @xadi4593 11 місяців тому +619

    okcode : i don't know why you give this guy every single utility
    otto : allow me to explain

    • @utkarsh2947
      @utkarsh2947 11 місяців тому +2

      otto who?

    • @xadi4593
      @xadi4593 11 місяців тому +79

      @@utkarsh2947 otto apocalypse , one of some villain in hoyoverse but mostly known in honkai impact 3rd

    • @passingdem0n303
      @passingdem0n303 11 місяців тому +50

      @@utkarsh2947 ​ @Xadi45 who looks 100% like Luocha, the ability Abyss Flower is also in Otto Apocalypse arsenal.

    • @utkarsh2947
      @utkarsh2947 11 місяців тому +1

      @@passingdem0n303 oh so that's what it's about 😅 I thought it's someone from upcoming story

    • @utkarsh2947
      @utkarsh2947 11 місяців тому +1

      @@xadi4593 I haven't played honkai impact 3rd 😔

  • @justjuniorjaw
    @justjuniorjaw 11 місяців тому +369

    The duality of Silver Wolf : Having more characters makes her more desirable, but having more characters also makes her less desirable.

    • @hyperion6114
      @hyperion6114 11 місяців тому +4

      ???

    • @dubstepforever99
      @dubstepforever99 11 місяців тому +117

      @@hyperion6114 once we get more characters and elements and build them she will be less desirable because we can already bring those characters to break those weaknesses instead of using silverwolf to add a weakness we dont have.

    • @welderscript9329
      @welderscript9329 11 місяців тому +10

      @@dubstepforever99 sounds like its only works for whales not for F2P
      Plus Silverwolf can make up what the enemy lacks in weakness with whatever your team is made up of
      Some weird cases you'd get like 4 enemies with 2-3 weaknesses that varies
      So long story short SW is RNG unless your team is mostly Quantum therefore desirable for those who only have few characters
      Complicated really

    • @dariel299
      @dariel299 11 місяців тому +4

      actually shes still valuable whether u have more characters or not, cause all her kits have debuff not only weakness typing

    • @ImGonnaOilYouUp
      @ImGonnaOilYouUp 11 місяців тому +22

      @@dubstepforever99 The people saying this are going to be the ones with a bunch of poorly built DPS units with terrible substats and crit ratios lool.

  • @takiatan534
    @takiatan534 11 місяців тому +169

    [Important] Some CN beta testers have tested it out. If there are 3 fire and 1 quantum in the team, the chance of adding fire weakness is 50/50 not 75/25, even though the ratio of party member is 75/25. It's subject to change, but this is the current state. Please like this comment so that it is seen by most.

    • @beriazim
      @beriazim 11 місяців тому +4

      It's obvious for every single person with a brain, there was no need in any "cn beta testers". % of implanting certain weakness depends on how many elements u have in a team, not an amount of each one, that's written in SW damn skill 😄

    • @samibaka
      @samibaka 11 місяців тому +61

      @@beriazim it depend on the coder, not the writer bro

    • @beriazim
      @beriazim 11 місяців тому

      @@samibaka and the writer is just copying the coder

    • @samibaka
      @samibaka 11 місяців тому +35

      @@beriazim the idea always come first then the coder makes it work, use your brain before cmt lmao

    • @Briezar
      @Briezar 11 місяців тому +24

      @@beriazim not rly, ability description may differ from how it works in code. That's why description bugs exist. The 4* lightcone Planetary Rendezvous says it increases DMG dealt, when it only increases a certain element's DMG.

  • @TheITwister
    @TheITwister 11 місяців тому +26

    My brain says pull Luocha
    My heart says pull Silver Wolf
    I need to choose, holy fuck

    • @ktsuumisa7613
      @ktsuumisa7613 10 місяців тому

      im gonna pull for sw but i reccomand you, especially if you dont have bailu to pull for luocha, silver wolf will have a rerun later when you'll have more character to build monoteam

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 10 місяців тому

      don't be a meta sheep and make your dick happy

    • @obihz2415
      @obihz2415 10 місяців тому

      Follow your heat is my motto

    • @JamzSlime
      @JamzSlime 10 місяців тому

      tbh we'll get more healers eventually

    • @isky6541
      @isky6541 10 місяців тому

      If you only have Natasha, Luocha is pretty much the pick. Such is the case for me, anyway. I also really like his design so that’s a big plus

  • @gtoyadhatagyab8013
    @gtoyadhatagyab8013 11 місяців тому +63

    I mean Luocha is basically a full set support, and he's an Imaginary unit, currently we only have one of that which is Welt, and Welt is a friggin 5*.
    Luocha's a solid pick for me.

  • @CasualChaoz
    @CasualChaoz 10 місяців тому +8

    I wanted both originally, but I knew I had more use for Luocha more. Watching your video helped me fully conclude that for myself, as much as Seele would benefit well from SW I'm still not running a healer at all and just letting Gepard and Seele carry me through everything. So adding Luocha into the mix will help me quite a bit 😂

  • @PharmDiff
    @PharmDiff 11 місяців тому +103

    idk if i'm coping, but putting silverwolf on my electro team (Jing, Ting, Bailu), or using her against bosses that resist ice for example - then take units who the boss is already weak to. it requires more information, but MoC gives you pretty much perfect info anyway

    • @neoikake
      @neoikake 11 місяців тому +4

      yes i whant to do exactly that, got 2 healers, i whant her so i can force sellee in and get support of the ellement with the existing weakness.

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому +19

      I think SW will be way better on her re-run when we have more options

    • @malsawmzela609
      @malsawmzela609 11 місяців тому +14

      I want her on my Gepard + Yanqing comp.
      Maybe I'll put Pela as the last slot for even more defense shred lol.

    • @Dylanfrias24
      @Dylanfrias24 11 місяців тому +10

      ​@@Ocacadordecasadas actually the opposite. She makes your dps viable in most content. This won't be the case when we have a dps in every element.

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 11 місяців тому +1

      I think he's underating her too, the only higher priority should be a 2nd healer for memories. Otherwise silverwolf feels good enough to be a must have, being able to force weaknesses means you'll always be able to clear memories as long as you have any 2 dps with different elements built since you can just slide Sw as coverage on the team whose dps doesn't have boss weakness coverage. If anything her value would go down in 6months or so because people will have access to more units built, meanwhile atm most people don't even have the materials to lvl 70 their first team +traces and properly level their relics.

  • @viy4581
    @viy4581 11 місяців тому +21

    I'm going al in on luocha banner coz he has tons of utility and also the nat4s on his banner are way more attractive for me than SW. Getting high eidolons on yukong will be a nice bonus as well as for Mahjong girl

  • @juicytin14
    @juicytin14 11 місяців тому +14

    i think that Gepard + Yanqing + Pela + Silver Wolf could be a pretty strong team. It's not quite mono element, but being able to put ice weakness on everything means more and more chances to cheese a boss through freezing it forever. putting ice weakness on enemies also increases YQ's damage by a lot due to his passive traces

  • @SirePuns
    @SirePuns 11 місяців тому +70

    It’s funny how Code had the exact same opinion I had when I saw Luocha.
    Dude can dispel, dude can cleanse, dude can deal AOE damage, dude can heal, dude has a panic heal that can target other characters, dude can probably do your taxes and take your kids to school while he’s at it.
    He’s the one guy I really need to have and yet I keep making the mistake of trying to build pity in JY banner when he’s still at 50/50 and he keeps dropping by early (I have E3 Jing Yuan so for Luocha chances are I won’t get him until a rerun unless I win his 50/50)

    • @carito728
      @carito728 11 місяців тому +2

      He even forgot to mention that Luocha in fact cannot get oneshot because of his awakening trace that prevents an atk from dealing more than 70% of his HP as damage LOL like dude somehow has MORE stuff on his kit than what Code already mentioned it is disgustingly good

    • @HigakiRinne
      @HigakiRinne 11 місяців тому +14

      @@carito728 That trace was removed in favor of an AOE healing trace.

    • @carito728
      @carito728 11 місяців тому +1

      @@HigakiRinne Wait that sounds even better whats the AoE heal effect?

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому

      @@carito728 I think we dont know the numbers yet,but anyway It sounds busted

    • @kunikuzushis
      @kunikuzushis 11 місяців тому +8

      @@carito728 when his field is up, characters other than the person attacking gets healed for a certain amount.

  • @hiimapop7755
    @hiimapop7755 11 місяців тому +9

    I use Qingque a lot and struggle in Memories of Chaos, so Luocha's banner is incredibly good for me. I also want Pela since I didn't get a single copy of her in the 140 pulls I did on Seele's banner, so my wishing plan is pretty clear for next patch.

  • @crimsonram6106
    @crimsonram6106 11 місяців тому +84

    My fav content creator. No drama or clickbait, only entertaining knowledge sharing 🎉😊

    • @B1u3ixx
      @B1u3ixx 11 місяців тому +1

      Only downside is when he plays 7-8 ads when you watch his stream. Every 15-30 minutes

    • @nelsond3359
      @nelsond3359 11 місяців тому +29

      @@B1u3ixx he can't control that tho, he even ask us to download adblock for that lmao

    • @doommaker4000
      @doommaker4000 11 місяців тому +19

      @@B1u3ixx That's Twitch for ya. No content creator has power over it.

    • @undeniablySomeGuy
      @undeniablySomeGuy 11 місяців тому +1

      You have a problem with the Twitch Partner Program

    • @B1u3ixx
      @B1u3ixx 11 місяців тому +1

      @@doommaker4000 He does play more ads than others for sure. I don't mind ads but when I have to watch 3-4x the amount of ads than usual, it just gets ridiculous imo.

  • @ivyikea1755
    @ivyikea1755 11 місяців тому +68

    One thing is that Luocha Traces Through the Valey: DMG received by Luocha from a single attack cannot be higher than 80% of his Max HP. So actually he's no longer super squishy

    • @rajamrifqi5764
      @rajamrifqi5764 11 місяців тому +34

      That got changed into the aoe heal

  • @janicefoo9366
    @janicefoo9366 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video! You just helped me made up my mind after swinging both ways for a long time. Going for Luocha and saving for Kafka, I definitely want Kafka.

  • @davidbai3543
    @davidbai3543 11 місяців тому +217

    Code is the only content creator that understands silverwolfe gives you team building restrictions

    • @davidbai3543
      @davidbai3543 11 місяців тому +79

      @@hgyuuuuhj098 I disagree. Most f2p have a rainbow roster, in which case silverwolfe's skill will have a very low chance of giving you the element you need.

    • @Elyndyr
      @Elyndyr 11 місяців тому +51

      Yeah, it's crazy how he is also the only one who actually says correctly that she doesn't have a 100% chance to apply the weakness to the enemy. She is a really niche character currently but might be great in 1-2 years.

    • @RageGS
      @RageGS 11 місяців тому +6

      Yeah she's very op but in theory

    • @ValentinoNicko
      @ValentinoNicko 11 місяців тому +41

      @@davidbai3543 If you have rainbow roster, you don't need Silver Wolf in the first place.

    • @lilyaholmes109
      @lilyaholmes109 11 місяців тому +3

      Well, if you play break effect team then it's a W

  • @figurecollector5796
    @figurecollector5796 11 місяців тому +7

    I'd like to get both SW and Luocha but as a F2P, I'd have to get very lucky. Luocha probably helps my account the most in the short term but a team of SW, Luocha, Welt, and Yukong would be very good IMHO. Scrubbing debuffs is a huge plus for Luocha given that I don't have Bailu. March can scrub buffs and heal a little via the trace leveling (I think) so we do have some other characters that can offer some of the same skills to a small degree.

    • @wannabe_recluse6028
      @wannabe_recluse6028 10 місяців тому +1

      natasha also has a cleanse trace, so she removes a debuff when she uses her skill on an ally (saved me during world 5 kafka lol), so if thats one of the deciding factors for you, it might be something to consider. but if this is planning for a second team, luocha would be a good pickup, and march does have a cleanse trace, but the small heal is locked behind her e6, so, again, something to consider. if you want both and dont have a guaranteed, (like meee) you can just let rng decide for you. go for a 5* on both of their banners, and whoever comes home, comes home

  • @Babu-oc1vh
    @Babu-oc1vh 11 місяців тому +6

    4 Stars Characters and Light Cones
    For the 4 stars characters on Silver Wolf and Loucha banners, the difference is power isn’t that strong, with fairly powerful 4* characters being available for both banners. However, it is important to note that the brand new 4* character of the patch - Yukong is only available on Luocha’s banner.
    If it is solely dependant on the 4* characters of each banner, it is highly recommended that players roll on the Luocha banner to get the brand new character of Yukong.
    As for their signature Light Cones, having them can massively boost the power of either the characters, however, they only serve to strengthen the characters’ already powerful skills and are not necessary if you don’t have enough resources to roll for them.
    Silver Wolf VS Luocha
    Between Silver Wolf and Luocha, the determining factor players should consider when rolling on either banner is what the player currently needs. In terms of utility and long term investment, Silver Wolf is one of, if not, the best debuffer in the game with her abilities that can help players clear stages easily. However, there are only 2 healers currently in the game and one of them is extremely difficult to get, so rolling for Luocha as an additional healer character is also important.
    Players should consider their preference in character designs, gameplay and abilities of these two characters carefully in relation to their character roster in order to determine who to roll for. However, if it is purely for gameplay sake, rolling for Silver Wolf is more beneficial in the long term.

  • @tigeroat
    @tigeroat 11 місяців тому

    Thank you very much for your perspective.
    This helps me a lot.

  • @mizuhashitsunoka
    @mizuhashitsunoka 11 місяців тому +65

    My brain says roll in Luocha banner. My heart says to take the chance for DanHeng eidolons. Hope they rerun Luocha soon 🤧

    • @zala6138
      @zala6138 11 місяців тому +21

      Just wait for 5* Dan Heng instead of chasing for his eidolons

    • @_KodokuOkami_
      @_KodokuOkami_ 11 місяців тому

      ​@@zala6138either way getting eidolons for Dan Heng isn't a bad idea. E4 and E1 essentially being his best one. E4 let's be a budget Seele lol

    • @mizuhashitsunoka
      @mizuhashitsunoka 11 місяців тому +3

      @@zala6138 bold of you to assume i will not be whaling on that banner. I want to spend sparingly on this game. Those who have played genshin know that whaling for 4* copies is just a suicide notice for your wallet.

    • @mizuhashitsunoka
      @mizuhashitsunoka 11 місяців тому +1

      @@_KodokuOkami_ Honestly I am playing this game because of DanHeng. I would like to E6 him at the earliest.

    • @zala6138
      @zala6138 11 місяців тому

      @@mizuhashitsunoka I see, good luck on your pulls then

  • @amylassner3375
    @amylassner3375 11 місяців тому +50

    If you have Bailu/Gepard and only have limited pulls, you should skip Luocha. Having Bailu or Gepard is already enough to clear the hardest content right now.
    If you have Seele, you should consider pulling for Silverwolf since there is a Quantum tank coming in 1.3. You can then form a mono team which should be really strong.

    • @Song-bc3ue
      @Song-bc3ue 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, I have a maxed Gepard and E1 Bailu (and her LC) and I want to save my warps for Blade!

    • @stefanstewart9079
      @stefanstewart9079 11 місяців тому +1

      But the weakness is random. It’s like playing with que que all over again. Not worth it

    • @amscuda7822
      @amscuda7822 11 місяців тому +16

      @@stefanstewart9079 he did mention forming a mono team didnt he. That would make it not random anymore

    • @lyra7438
      @lyra7438 11 місяців тому +3

      @@stefanstewart9079 when you break their toughness bar it will apply quantum weakness, which isnt amazing but it is also useful

    • @tonilaseng4620
      @tonilaseng4620 11 місяців тому +2

      You still need secondary healer for forgotten hall. Forgotten hall requires 2 team.
      I don't have a 2nd healer. Anyone that got bailu is lucky af

  • @16SF
    @16SF 11 місяців тому +36

    The game itself made the choice for me. I have no Bailu, no Gepard and (as an extra F U) my March 7th is stuck at E0. 😂😂😂

    • @maxmillion2102
      @maxmillion2102 11 місяців тому +2

      same😢

    • @Kuroganemk2
      @Kuroganemk2 11 місяців тому +1

      I have gepard, he rocks skipping her cos I need a second healer.

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому +6

      @@Kuroganemk2 If you have gepard build you dont need a Second healer

    • @Pavillion-uf2gz
      @Pavillion-uf2gz 11 місяців тому +1

      Here I am getting gepard bailu and abundance 5* lc. So loucha is a total waste for me right now. I will happily be saving for blade

    • @alejandrod.484
      @alejandrod.484 11 місяців тому +1

      Same bro, my natasha is sweating hard everytime I do something challenging 😂

  • @Nneoh1
    @Nneoh1 11 місяців тому +14

    Will try to get Luocha, his kit sounds fun and comfy

    • @hollowfragment237
      @hollowfragment237 11 місяців тому

      I like comfy if I can get through Mem of Chaos with now sweat with him I won’t be stressing

  • @alazif7973
    @alazif7973 11 місяців тому +5

    Luocha and his banner 4 stars are so good that it is ridiculous, if you don't have a second healer it's basically not even close. However, if you do have Bailu...there is very little point in pulling. Even less if you have Seele (since no point to QQ then), and Yukong is free later. Even less value if you have Welt. What banner to pull is really being decided on what 5 stars you managed to roll already.

  • @Valiantiron
    @Valiantiron 11 місяців тому +4

    Your description of Luocha is hilarious to me 😂
    IMO that there is a man who refuses to be chained down by a wedding ring (good for him)

  • @sanjeethmahendrakar
    @sanjeethmahendrakar 11 місяців тому +37

    SW seems to be a good pick of you want to run mono teams. One issue of team building in HSR is that you need type coverage to be effective but SW kinda allows you to ignore that.

    • @StranglerSix
      @StranglerSix 11 місяців тому +4

      She also gives niche Traces and LCs more viability (e.g., Asta boosts ally's Fire DMG + Planetary Rendezvous). Her team building is restrictive but she ALSO introduces new team comps.

    • @GoobieWoobie69
      @GoobieWoobie69 11 місяців тому +2

      sorta... gotta remember its single target and most fights have 1+ enemy doesn't matter as bad against bosses. also unless you playing her with mono quantum shes only gonna have a 75% chance in any other team since she counts her self in that chance.

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 11 місяців тому +5

      @@GoobieWoobie69 its a 90% chance at lvl 15, also it's not hard to just reuse her special until you get the weakness applied even in a 2/2 mixed team since its just her special not her ult if you have enough speed. The base case scenario of her only applying bugs and her ult is still a very strong debuffer. just off the free 4 star lightcone + an effect hit top it's possible to hit around 60-80 effect hit if we get superimposed copies, so the effect hit chance shouldn't be a problem with a bit of gear farming

  • @Teru91333319
    @Teru91333319 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm a little sad since it's looking like MC is going to be Hunt and not Abundance for their next Path, so I just have to do Luocha.
    But that does mean potential for Yukong eidolons, and she's going to be hugely integral for me I think since I have Welt (and will have Luocha).

  • @bamboozledtree6803
    @bamboozledtree6803 11 місяців тому +1

    jokes on you I already main QQ and Silver Wolf is just gonna be another addition to my gacha team

  • @templeknights
    @templeknights 11 місяців тому +4

    I've seen this discussion point in a few Discords and it's worth some consideration.
    Hoyo has created a FOMO jade trap with MoC where players are mostly missing specific unit types in order to progress. But, ONLY because we are very under leveled. There are drip whales at TL 60 that are clearing most of it with free units. Meaning, all of us will eventually be able to full clear MoC with free characters once our levels catch up to the enemies. That could be in about 3-5 months for F2P to be full clearing MoC with 80/80s.
    So, you FOMO a healer in 1.1, best case scenario ~75 pulls, it would take you close to a year to make that back in MoC. Which at that point everyone will be full clearing with free to play level 80 characters.
    See where I'm going with this? Dont pull for fear of missing out on jades in MoC. If you like Luocha, 100% pull, or if you want a Destruction synergistic healer for someone like Blade, definitely pull, but pulling as a MoC investment is a terrible thing to do and a lot of people are getting pulled into this trap. Also you definitely wont be 100%'ing MoC with him alone, most people 100%'ing atm have lvl 80s, so that year investment is probably closer to 2 especially if you lose the 50/50 on him.
    Pull for whoever you want, and obviously this doesn't apply as much to whales, but after hearing this point of view I was happy to have a clearer perspective on who I actually want to pull for moving forward.
    Food for thought.

  • @ZhongliPlayGachaGame
    @ZhongliPlayGachaGame 11 місяців тому +7

    Thanks code. Im currently guaranteed so i was thinking of using it to get silver wolf because people said she is very good character to pull now because of her mechanic however after watching this video i will skip the entire 1.1 banner and wait for kafka. As for luocha. I have e6 nat and bailu already so i think I don't need another healer. Yukong will be given for free in 1.2 so yeah i think im good 😄

    • @dodgerpatrol
      @dodgerpatrol 11 місяців тому +1

      Hi sorry a bit new to this, how do you get guaranteed pulls?

    • @Ghostaur
      @Ghostaur 11 місяців тому +2

      @@dodgerpatrol you have a 50/50 chance to pull the character that's currently on the banner. If you lose the 50/50 you'll get one of the 5* from Stellar Warp. You can't lose twice in a row, so being guaranteed means losing on a character banner once and 100% getting the character on that banner now. It also transfers between banners. (i. e. You got Bailu instead of Seele and now on Silverwolf's banner this wont happen)

    • @AdamTuxTengler
      @AdamTuxTengler 11 місяців тому

      SW looks pretty crap for now for sure, but Luocha is probably solid. He should work well with Blade and Blade is looking pretty solid. But yeah, if you plan to get let’s say 2 characters out of the next 4 banners, then Kafka and Blade might have the best value. Is nice to have units that actually kill things :D

    • @VoidSlasherRPG
      @VoidSlasherRPG 11 місяців тому

      @@AdamTuxTengler If you have seele and jing already, then i think pulling another dps of the same element is kinda low prio. Every new banner will have their pros and cons but for dps you need alot of variety ( and most likely their signature LC for maximum dmg output) because of element dmg coverage. MoC stage 10 clear videos are already out (1star) with only natasha in one team and march in second. If you have to choose from the next 4 banners then i think pulling for blade and his lightcone (If his LC is busted) OR luocha and blade for synergy would benefit your account the most in said constellation. (loosing 50/50 means 30% getting gepard/bailu so sooner or later you will have your second healer/shielder soon if you like to gamble even more, haha)

  • @mirage6335
    @mirage6335 11 місяців тому

    10:00 offensive lightcone for increase dps nihility.
    Welt and SW for example.
    On superimpose she get around 30% critical hits after apply debufs more the 3 enemies which means it is not pernament buff[ copy of himeko card]
    . Effect hit rate 50%
    As basic stats.
    + special ability for all users nihility which increase 12% dmg for one turn and will be after upgrade around 30%.
    12:41 defensive lightcone or should i say for support your allies by using debuffs. And give them also energy regeneration .
    Effect hit rate around 50% for more chance to break weakness bar .
    + regeneration energy 10 points for your allies like too for user.
    User like pela and SW might be too if you want .
    Overall both of them are good but depends on user this card what role you write for your nihility user.❤

  • @JohnOwndYou
    @JohnOwndYou 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the vid., very informative. 👍

  • @meliodad2422
    @meliodad2422 11 місяців тому +35

    for those going for silver wolf, there are leaks for fu xuan coming(quantum shield) and she probably will be coming for 1.3? With silver wolf, quantum mono team with seele + fuxuan + future quantum support/dps can be very viable and broken.

    • @Tigexslayer
      @Tigexslayer 11 місяців тому +4

      There's also lynx coming who we saw in the trailer and according to leaks she is a 4* Quantum Abundance Characer, but honestly I feel SW will fit best with in a team with Kafka Serval and Bailu, I honestly feel Kafka and Serval are gonna be busted together.

    • @maxamillion4941
      @maxamillion4941 11 місяців тому

      Is serval worth the investment if I don’t have bailu but eventually wanna do an electro mono team?

    • @meliodad2422
      @meliodad2422 11 місяців тому +5

      @@maxamillion4941 currently erudition doesnt have a place in the meta, which i hope will change in the future. There arents really any bad charactets so from a fun pov, just go for it. From meta pov, u probably could save it.

    • @darkdream8844
      @darkdream8844 11 місяців тому +2

      Just a reminder, f2p only got 2 banner shot pity, about 30k gems
      Whale? Forget what I said

    • @crowing3886
      @crowing3886 11 місяців тому +10

      So wait 6 months 😂

  • @Zenaltra
    @Zenaltra 11 місяців тому +3

    Luocha I need for my team, Silver Wolf I want because I love the aesthetics of her and her abilities.
    I'll probably go to Silver Wolf's 50/50, hope to get lucky, then wait for Luocha.

    • @Bennazzi
      @Bennazzi 11 місяців тому +1

      This. This is exactly what I'm planning to do. Good luck!

  • @relchan489
    @relchan489 11 місяців тому

    congrats, for your growing channel❤

  • @thewobbinator8410
    @thewobbinator8410 11 місяців тому +28

    This is what I'm planning. Luocha instead of SW. Tho I have Bailu, having a cleanse in a healer is A MUST.

    • @whit3devil
      @whit3devil 11 місяців тому +1

      natasha has cleanse

    • @linkvagar2336
      @linkvagar2336 11 місяців тому +1

      @@whit3devil You need two cleansing healers for Forgotten Hall

    • @thewobbinator8410
      @thewobbinator8410 11 місяців тому

      @@whit3devil yep. Bailu doesn't have any. Hopefully a lightcone that can cleanse would be auto equip on her.

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 11 місяців тому +2

      @Bizzle Made And you do know we need 2 team in MoC

    • @tonilaseng4620
      @tonilaseng4620 11 місяців тому +3

      @@BizzleMade you must be ignorant if you think you can clear hard content without a healer.
      Healer is by far is a must for 4th slot. Having healer is better than having a shielder.
      Unless you have e6 seele/jing yuan + bronya + tingyun then you are playing a different game.
      Ain't no way you can clear forgotten hall without a healer. Same goes for simulated universe. I'm not talking about the easy stage, I'm talking about stages where the opponent is way above your team level.

  • @MaethorDerien
    @MaethorDerien 11 місяців тому +6

    Yeah, I will probably pull SW on a rerun, I think later when we can build a full quantum team she will be insane. She is also likely really good for a jing electric team but that requires you having gotten lucky with bailu, if you don't have bailu that doesn't work.

    • @Febard
      @Febard 11 місяців тому

      Yeah but that team doesnt have cleanse which sucks :S

  • @Ocacadordecasadas
    @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому +4

    I did build 60 pity for loucha (totally not because i wanted more ting dupes),so his banner not being that good dosent matter for me,If i win the 50/50 great,If not i will probably save for someone else

  • @iRondanye
    @iRondanye 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the cover of the update. Best one i have seen im sure subscribing yah n keepin updated by your channel. New here. 🤟🤟 i am not f2p.
    I do money if i want the specific character and their light cone if im gettin extremley unlucky or/n loosing time before they r gone.

  • @Alexandragon1
    @Alexandragon1 11 місяців тому

    Thx for the video!

  • @Ghostaur
    @Ghostaur 11 місяців тому +4

    i m probably skipping all the banners in 1.1 & 1.2 / I might grab Luocha depending on playtest and how good he is compared to running Bailu or Gepard.

  • @eh1165
    @eh1165 11 місяців тому +49

    Damn, having Seele Silver Wolf is almost a must pull for me. I was thinking of a full quantum team, but in the meantime id run her in a team with Jing Yuan, Tingyun and Bailu.

    • @ThorsShadow
      @ThorsShadow 11 місяців тому +6

      Fu Xuan was leaked a while ago as being Quantum Preservation. I personally would also love a mono Quantum team. Really hope we're getting a Quantum Abundance character at some point.

    • @ShadowCrescent
      @ShadowCrescent 11 місяців тому

      @@ThorsShadow It updated again. Its not confirmed yet, but Fu Xuan was that Quantum Preservation character.

    • @BloodySteel
      @BloodySteel 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ThorsShadow It's Fu Xuan, she will come in 1.3

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix 11 місяців тому

      It's that plus having gepard. The concerns are all good points around healing etc but given I got good RNG in that area, I think I have the luxury of skipping Luocha

    • @mharvynn1212
      @mharvynn1212 11 місяців тому +1

      Having Seele, I hope I can win the 50/50 for SW, then I can save for Fu Xuan and hopefully Lynx in the future for a mono-quantum team

  • @sorakey4005
    @sorakey4005 11 місяців тому +2

    I think u overlook 4 energy regen on the free lightcone. The requirement trigger is only to atk an enemy that have reduced def, but it did not say how many time u can active it per a turn like Pela skill.
    Which mean i don't know what would happen if u do 2 or 3 atk on a turn, or do an AoE atk that hit all 5 enemy that has already has reduce defend. She might get her ult like in 1 turn if that happen.
    And that thing only at s1. It's might can be upgrade to s5, which could be up to 8 energy per atk. It would be crazy good if it really is the case

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому

      It is a pretty good light cone honestly since It is free

    • @hulahupjingga
      @hulahupjingga 11 місяців тому

      But realisticly how she can achieve that?

    • @sorakey4005
      @sorakey4005 11 місяців тому

      @@hulahupjingga alot if u manage to get 1 going, more specifically once every 2 turns. Since she will regen about 20~25% faster if she hit only once. So if her ult also trigger the buff, she will regen 40% fast per buff that turn. Which can instantly get her back 40+8+8 = 56 energy back right after she ult.
      With a regen rope, that number will go up to 67. So she will ult again on the next turn even when u use her basic atk (67+(30+8)*1.19=112>110). Which trigger the effect twice again that turn.
      it decrease her ult from once every 3 turns to once every 2 turn. That how powerful it is if it really work like i think.

  • @yunese5292
    @yunese5292 11 місяців тому +2

    I don't play forgotten hall so personally, I'm pulling SW and skipping luocha. I'll get my 2nd healer some other time in the future lul

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix 11 місяців тому +1

      You always have the chance of losing 50:50 and getting Bailu or Gepard (or getting them from standard pulls). I think having two shots at a second defensive option makes odds pretty good in the next patch or two that you'll get one

  • @AdamTuxTengler
    @AdamTuxTengler 11 місяців тому +7

    That free SW lightcone will probably be really good on her. It's so much free hit rate, that I would almost call it mandatory and better than the 5* (unless you R5 that one too, but then you are massive whale :D) until you completely max her out and have good artifacts on her (to compensate for the fact, the 5* actually gives less EHR). Massively debuffing one target is only good when it's a boss and those have very high effect res (up to 50% I think). That means, that without getting big EHR she doesn't even function in her role. It can be combined with the EHR set bonus from Sim Universe, which increases wearers ATK based on percentage of their EHR, because she also has good ATK multis, so might as well. If that lightcone on R5 gives 40% and the set is 10%, she already has 125% base chance to apply weakness and 150% base chance to apply Entaglement with those alone. She's also getting 12.5% ATK bonus from the set at that point. It might be possible to get the remaining 25%, to get guaranteed weakness application on any target (150% base chance), with substats alone later in the game and get her crit chance/crit damage chest piece to increase her personal damage. Other artifact main stats can be energy recharge and quantum damage. Early it might be better to have EHR chest piece and we should be able to pretty easily max out her EHR with purple ass gear :D. With 75% EHR coming from gear, you are getting some 19% ATK from the Sim Universe set bonus also, which partially compensates for the lack of damage bonus on the free lightcone. Pretty sweet to get that for free on R5.
    EDIT: lol, I just watched OK's video on EHR calculation. I asumed simple subtraction, for reasons ... it's not. So to have 100% chance to apply effect with 75% base chance on enemy with 50% effect resistance, you actually need 167% EHR on your gear? In that case good luck building SW without the free lightcone :D. Even the 5* on R5 probably wouldn't be enough :D.
    EDIT2: actually I don't see any boss RES, that would look like it applies to her weakness application, which is kinda unique? There are bosses with Entaglement RES though, so I guess she needs up to 100% EHR, to have 100% chance of getting Entanglement with her ult against enemy with 50% RES. Still kinda oof :D

    • @AdamTuxTengler
      @AdamTuxTengler 11 місяців тому +1

      This lightcone actually reminds me of Albedo. That free lightcone is so disgusting, that I would advise everyone to get it and get it to R5 during the event, because we might have another "Spindle situation" here :D. If it's time limited, then RIP if you don't get it now :D.

    • @Knightoftheblacksky
      @Knightoftheblacksky 11 місяців тому +1

      The Skill is an 85% base chance for weakness implant, so its 135.3 EHR needed for it. If you are going for 100% chance to apply bugs (72%) that's 177 effect hit rate and completely not worth it to guarantee. 135.3 EHR leaves those bugs at 84.7% against 50% effect resist. Going farther for those bugs isn't worth it.

    • @lowkeydelayed980
      @lowkeydelayed980 11 місяців тому

      I mean you can reach 167% EHR just with body and light cone alone

    • @Knightoftheblacksky
      @Knightoftheblacksky 11 місяців тому

      @@lowkeydelayed980 No you can't. 43.2 from the body+ 10 from 2 piece pan-galatic + 40 lightcone + 18 traces is 111.2% EHR. You'd need 56 in substats to hit 167.
      You could comfortably hit the ultimate without any substats with an EHR mainstat piece, guarantee the weakness implant with 24.1 (it needs 135.3 EHR against 50 effect Res)in substats, but maintaining the bugs 100% of the time is quite the high price in effect hit rate substats.
      Alternatively you could build for damage, with a crit body piece and 32 effect hit rate substats hit 100% EHR to guarantee the ult, but keep the weakness implant at 85% chance, since you can always cast her skill again next turn but her ult would take 3 to 4 of your turns to retry. However, getting 32 effect hit rate in substats whilst maintaining good crit stats is something you might not have for a long time, depending on RNG.

    • @AdamTuxTengler
      @AdamTuxTengler 11 місяців тому

      @@Knightoftheblacksky It depends on trace level it seems like, it’s 75 on level 1 and 85 on level 10, which I’m not getting anytime soon, but yeah, it will require little less even on a realistic level 6. Still considerably difficult to build her for reliability, bordering on impossible until we get high trace level. Same for the other chances. Ult apparently isn’t 100% (found newer version now) either and the bugs are just 66% on realistic level 6. This character will struggle so much … :D. I can already see the “Is SW garbage??” video titles 😅. Anyhow, the event lightcone = mandatory

  • @KuraiKodoku16
    @KuraiKodoku16 11 місяців тому +5

    I got Bailu as my beginner banner 5* character, even if I have the free Natasha like anyone else I haven't raised her one bit, I wanted to.. but I'm trying to manage my resources and so far I haven't needed her as I adore Bailu so much more. Luocha sounds very interesting and I prefer husbando characters for my enjoyment of the game, but I'll wait for his guide and the 1.2 stream regarding Blade before I make my decission cause... -ahem- Blade's design is TOTALLY my type so I'll wait and see what both of them do before making my decision.

    • @Jackie_Tikki_Tavi
      @Jackie_Tikki_Tavi 11 місяців тому +1

      I completely agree. I adore Natasha but her outfit's design and weapon are a mess (what's up with her booba?)
      On the other hand, Blade's design is S tier, so I really hope he is just unhinged and not a full-on bad guy. His gameplay is also pretty interesting to me.

    • @KuraiKodoku16
      @KuraiKodoku16 11 місяців тому +2

      @Jacob B I'm probably one of the few people who is okay with Natasha's design, I do can see why you'd say that. But Blade looks very interesting and when I saw him in the beta trailer I just.. started flailing cause o m g his design, color palette and that badboy aura is my utter weakness! Hoping he'll be fun to play too!

    • @Jackie_Tikki_Tavi
      @Jackie_Tikki_Tavi 11 місяців тому +1

      @@KuraiKodoku16 that beauty mark and voice of hers though makes me weak in the knees

    • @KuraiKodoku16
      @KuraiKodoku16 11 місяців тому

      @@Jackie_Tikki_TaviVERY relatable, I have that with Jing Yuan's voice like... gfgkajfsgj-

    • @dvornikovalexei
      @dvornikovalexei 10 місяців тому +1

      I built Natasha for the 2nd team in MoC but she's useless. Not half as good as Bailu.

  • @mr.m9824
    @mr.m9824 11 місяців тому

    Lmfao bro your vids 😂❤ im glad i came across your channel

  • @hamzabara6058
    @hamzabara6058 11 місяців тому

    best stremer who cover the game with tecc keep the good work my man

  • @arvandor6820
    @arvandor6820 11 місяців тому +11

    With how many ice weakness interactions Yanqing has, I think that Silverwolf will be pretty dang good with like, Gepard/Pela/Silverwolf/Yanqing or something like that. Like, sure you may not guarantee getting the ice weakness on the enemy, but... In MoC you can just grind runs for good RNG? I dunno, will be interesting to see how that goes.

    • @viy4581
      @viy4581 11 місяців тому

      with that team, can silverwolf grant quantum weakness too? coz i forgot where she counts herself.
      If she does, then she seems very rng, quantum weakness wont help that team and then u have to hope for def shred on her bugs since thats the ideal one to push dmg

    • @dubstepforever99
      @dubstepforever99 11 місяців тому +1

      @@viy4581 yea she can apply quantum weakness so basically 25% chance the best would be a complete quantum team or a 2 team/2team with quantum and another element

    • @arvandor6820
      @arvandor6820 11 місяців тому

      @@viy4581 yes, in pretty sure she can, but for MoC you can always just reset grind for good RNG. Might be worth in the early end game when our rosters are super limited and we can barely build out a main squad let alone elemental diversity

    • @viy4581
      @viy4581 11 місяців тому

      @@arvandor6820 yeah, u can always reset over and over but i think thats quite tedious but its fine if u want to do it for smoother runs
      But its honestly a bit lame she can apply her own weakness. Can lead to some annoying rng tho ofc its only 25% chance for that to happen in a 3 ice+ SW team

    • @chubbi1760
      @chubbi1760 10 місяців тому

      e4 Pela lowers ice res (+def shred. also with resolution, even more def shred), Silverwolf fulfills even more elemental shred( and def shred), allows application of ice weakness as well, e1 Gepard allows for higher chance of freeze on his E, Yanqing e1 increases atk against frozen enemies. If all of these conditions are fulfilled, plus relic bonuses and other buffs from weapons, Yanqing can deal insane ST dmg and becomes nuke-worthy! (also his passive has a good chance of freeze too, so freeze procks are more consistent. this team looks nuts ngl)

  • @Alvis183
    @Alvis183 11 місяців тому +3

    man I'm confused as hell. On one hand I'd like to have a 2nd healer as an insurance, but on the other hand I already have a pretty good gepard and if I put him in a team, it doesn't really need a 2nd healer except those rare occasions where gepard gets cc'd. I also got a seele but no bronya so silverwolf would be equally valuable for my quantum team. Life is tough man

    • @akirayuki6275
      @akirayuki6275 10 місяців тому

      Chose who you prefer as a character honestly. I personally have Gepard too and usually my Gepardless team struggles more than my Healerless team so in theory I don't really need Luocha all that much, but I started this game for him ('cause I like Otto), so I'm gonna pull anyway.
      Silverwolf would be nice for my Seele or Mono Ice team with Yanqing and Pela, but for the yime being I don't feel the need to get her over the character I like. I'm also taking my time with Memory of Chaos, so I'm not in a hurry to get all the broken supports

  • @pandabear240
    @pandabear240 11 місяців тому

    alright, u got me with the idea of a mono quantum team, gonna pull for silver wolf then

  • @fortissolar946
    @fortissolar946 10 місяців тому

    Thankyou, now i have a reason to pull on 1.2

  • @FeztA
    @FeztA 11 місяців тому +6

    Waifu over meta as always, but honestly Luocha and Blade are must pull for me, they just look so good.

    • @sabsain2399
      @sabsain2399 11 місяців тому +4

      Loucha and Blade ARE waifus/husbandos lolll

  • @Rachitdubey
    @Rachitdubey 11 місяців тому +3

    So I'll probably wait to summon for her.
    Will see all the reviews now.

  • @nightsxgames
    @nightsxgames 11 місяців тому

    Have E6 Seele and Bailu with LC... so yeah SW will be coming home - maybe Luocha too... Depending on $ I might go for some eidolons on SW as well - will be working extra for it just in case.

  • @antoniocorbachomatthes1629
    @antoniocorbachomatthes1629 11 місяців тому

    I must say, it's the only Chanel on star rail content, where you know you get great Infos and tips, you're very funny, and you know the half of the video it's not a bla bla stuff. Please follow this guy!

  • @Ironsuaba
    @Ironsuaba 11 місяців тому +5

    I refuse to pull healers. Surely I'll be fine

  • @Vivi_Strike
    @Vivi_Strike 11 місяців тому +4

    Fu Xian, Qinque/Seele, and Silver Wolf with first turn speed would be a good team comp but missing a quantum healer.
    However im skipping both Silver & Luocha (already have Bailu) and saving for Fu because im F2P, I need to replace March asap.

    • @SirBeelz
      @SirBeelz 11 місяців тому +11

      Asap as in 2-3 months wait 💀 f2p life man

    • @gruiaolaru511
      @gruiaolaru511 11 місяців тому +10

      Lynx is rumored to be a 4 star quantum healer iirc.

    • @Vivi_Strike
      @Vivi_Strike 11 місяців тому +1

      @@SirBeelz 😭

    • @07Lightless
      @07Lightless 11 місяців тому +2

      What’s wrong with March 7th? I have her E6 and she’s great especially with Yanqing.

    • @Vivi_Strike
      @Vivi_Strike 11 місяців тому

      @@gruiaolaru511 Oh that's nice, hopefully i can pick that one up and then get Silver Wolf on a rerun.

  • @UltimateFrozenTea
    @UltimateFrozenTea 11 місяців тому

    okGode dropped new vid - we enjoy!

  • @shibazeki9858
    @shibazeki9858 11 місяців тому +1

    I have seele, SW is a must for me.
    So i can spread my current support in my Seele team for another team.

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому +3

      I dont think she is a must if you have seele honestly,in the Future maybe,for now even tho i have seele i will go with loucha

    • @shibazeki9858
      @shibazeki9858 11 місяців тому

      @@Ocacadordecasadas you probably ignored the word " A must *for me* " it's not a must for everyone.
      I knew what i'm doing.

  • @Febard
    @Febard 11 місяців тому +3

    Luocha ez pick for 4-stars, character design, utility etc etc 😎 Im tired of suffering without Gepard or Bailu

  • @jondysayz
    @jondysayz 11 місяців тому +14

    I could be wrong, but descriptions specifically states "ally's type." So, the 75% base chance of application is the addition to whatever effect hit rate you throw onto SW. Mihoyo likes to be specific sometimes with skill wording, but we can also factor in translation issues. I'm sure once Luocha releases, we can see a viable "mono team." Of course this is more whale territory than anything, but we're looking at Welt, Luocha, Yukong and SW. That feeds all the roles required.

  • @Leche3
    @Leche3 11 місяців тому +4

    I’m currently stuck on simulated universe world 5 and Luocha sounds like a god send 😭

    • @echo5535
      @echo5535 11 місяців тому

      You don't need Luocha to clear SU. Just use correct blessing.

    • @shouldntbeAproblem44
      @shouldntbeAproblem44 11 місяців тому +1

      you don't even need a healer for SU 5, just use abundance path and clear kafka's debuffs using resonance. btw she gains atk buff while your characters are under her hypnosis skill(even not proked) so use resonance immediatly after her skill

    • @Leche3
      @Leche3 11 місяців тому +1

      @@echo5535 not saying I need him I’m saying his abilities sound cool for world 5. Especially since he can remove debuffs.

    • @Leche3
      @Leche3 11 місяців тому

      @@shouldntbeAproblem44 yea I mainly want him for his abilities that can remove debuffs. His healing is a plus though. And I didn’t know that 🤔 I’ve been using preservation for the survivability. thanks for letting me know.

    • @zan1971
      @zan1971 10 місяців тому

      Use Hunt main path and Preservation path buffs alongside it. Super easy.

  • @wafaay7182
    @wafaay7182 11 місяців тому +5

    I don't understand when people say the highest chance is 75%, litteraly if you use her against an enemy who has naturally a quantum weakness it turns into 100% chance.
    You don't HAVE to run mono elemental teams, just bring units who are of elements who the boss is already weak to + the unit who's damage you wanna boost should be of an element the enemy isn't weak to and voilà 100% chance to apply your dps's weakness to the enemy.

    • @mirage6335
      @mirage6335 11 місяців тому

      Because there is effect resistance which doesnt give you 100% chance on break quantum type even she is this element but her lightcone gives you effect hit rate which increase chance to apply this effect and break the quantum weakness bar faster then others.
      That is why nihility is best breaker of defense😂.
      Maybe you create own team for quantum type but if the enemy hasnt element quantum you cant break it.
      + untill you break it you have to stack hits from your teammates ❤
      After every break enemy obtain effect resistance which count few turns.

    • @altri2254
      @altri2254 11 місяців тому

      Because it will reduce the value of the SW skill. The thing is after she apllied weakness to enemies she reduces their dmg res to that type element for 20% and +10% all element. but if we bring dps to enemies who have the same weakness, only the 10% will still be applied. the 20% does not applied. that is why nobody talking about bring dps to enemies that have same element

    • @wafaay7182
      @wafaay7182 11 місяців тому +1

      @@altri2254 I think you didn't read my comment correctly. I did say to bring a dps to who the enemy is not weak to the element of but make the other three caharacters of elements who he Is weak to.

    • @altri2254
      @altri2254 11 місяців тому

      @@wafaay7182 oh yeah, my bad bruh, i've read a lot of people argue about bring dps same element, so my brain and hand automatically replies

    • @Briezar
      @Briezar 11 місяців тому +1

      @@altri2254 enemy naturally has 20% dmg res to any element that is not their weakness, and SW skill adds weakness which by itself means removing the dmg res. Her skill description is kinda misleading in that sense. You'd still bring her for the extra 10% and she herself can contribute to the break if enemy has same element, it also means less skill point expenditure.

  • @elfireii328
    @elfireii328 11 місяців тому +11

    I actually just pulled a bailu today. But nat's debuff removal is so nice.

    • @pfortunato78
      @pfortunato78 11 місяців тому

      That and, Nat with wind relic set+ speed boots +energy rope and the forgetten hall cone = burst up all the time.

    • @Febard
      @Febard 11 місяців тому +1

      This is why Bailu is a qiqi to me already

    • @dvornikovalexei
      @dvornikovalexei 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@pfortunato78 i prefer Bailu with Planetary annihilation than Natasha with Quid Pro Quo. People jerk over debuff removal but forget Bailu can revive, Natasha cannot

    • @obihz2415
      @obihz2415 10 місяців тому

      ​@@dvornikovalexei and healing after begin hit

  • @changhornboe9744
    @changhornboe9744 11 місяців тому +19

    i think luocha shouldnt build speed as it lowers the uptime of his AOE healing field, there's theory crafting out there that says luocha kinda wants slower speed for more aoe heal but im not sureeee

    • @onedayiwillbegone2366
      @onedayiwillbegone2366 11 місяців тому +2

      Oh shit bro, you may be right but I think we have to research more after release.
      Since it stated 2 turns, it did not specifically mention "Luocha's 2 turns".
      So could also be 2 entire turns of the team OR
      It could also mean any 2 turns of anyone. (EG: Luocha > Flower Activated > Sushang > Herta > Flower Deactivated )
      Hopefully it's the 2 turns of entire team.
      If it's not the team... I would place Luocha lower in the tier list. Building him slow pretty much slow down his flower stacking which sucks.

    • @darkgrundi9543
      @darkgrundi9543 11 місяців тому +1

      i wonder if his lifesteal triggers on claras counters. If it does then those two are a dream together.

    • @onedayiwillbegone2366
      @onedayiwillbegone2366 11 місяців тому +4

      @@darkgrundi9543 it should work

    • @obihz2415
      @obihz2415 10 місяців тому

      But you also want speed for trigger the field more often

  • @kipp14
    @kipp14 10 місяців тому

    Getting silverwolf imo is more important just for the fact that even if her skill is nerfed at e0 her ult is more potent than luocha passive heal on average since even halls will likely rotate every patch in a major way. Way to many people are discounting duel elm dps plus silverwolf since we only have one true tank in fire mc fire imperal might be useful in situations where you have hook and any other top tier dps about the only team that doesn't want silverwolf is mono ice which is top heavy atm.

  • @farqleethussain9102
    @farqleethussain9102 11 місяців тому

    Silver wolf's Sig LC applies Aether code on an enemy which is a mechanic from Aether gazer (every single character has there own set of aether codes) 😂

  • @cup9387
    @cup9387 11 місяців тому +9

    ok, hear me out, Loucha Welt Yukong Silver Wolf. In conclusion pull for both and get really lucky

    • @Konpekikaminari
      @Konpekikaminari 11 місяців тому +1

      That's actually a really decent team lol

    • @procos5108
      @procos5108 11 місяців тому

      That's my plan but QQ instead of welt. With silver any combination of quantum/Imaginary pretty much gets the same effect as if you were mono quantum.

    • @moosdeboer6469
      @moosdeboer6469 11 місяців тому +2

      how about; loucha welt silverwolf seele. Ultimate whale team

    • @Febard
      @Febard 11 місяців тому

      Sounds like a fun team tbh 😻

    • @rhaelsura96
      @rhaelsura96 10 місяців тому

      Would love to see how that team would go with the Imbibitor Lunae

  • @silly.furina
    @silly.furina 10 місяців тому +3

    I wonder what would happen if you had a full fire team w silverwolf and then attack a enemy with both fire and quantum weakness and then use her skill

    • @wannabe_recluse6028
      @wannabe_recluse6028 10 місяців тому

      ...i checked, theres some info abt her kit released, and you dont get any extra weakness or res shred, instead, you just get the all elemental type res shred

  • @goonlife7539
    @goonlife7539 10 місяців тому

    For a team comp for silver wolf you could use 2 elements for the team comp, then make 1 character from each element a dps/sub dps. That way you always have a way to hit the enemy.

    • @Firmansyah-sm6dh
      @Firmansyah-sm6dh 10 місяців тому

      Welp yeah this might be work for general clearing, but memory of chaos is just need more balance to the team.. it's hurt

  • @Keira_san
    @Keira_san 11 місяців тому +1

    SW pros and cons
    Pros
    - provide muliple debuffs
    - provide weakness apply
    - has high speed so can take action first
    - entanglement (quantum debuff) delays enemies speed and stackable damage by any attacks
    - litterally "boss killer"
    Cons
    - its single target debuff, building mono team is good but its take time to debuff mobs
    - requires effect hit rate,
    - bosses like bronya has weakness immune
    - requires high dps character
    Why selee is almost perfect for SW
    - SW and Selee are both quantum, increase chance to apply quantum
    - SW requires a reliable mob killer because of single target debuff, but also need someone deal large amount damage on boss which selee did it all
    - quantum relic set buff, yeah. gain extra ignore def to selee from relic set if SW apply quantum weakness
    You can build other mono team but in farming, asta in her banner exist and her eidolons are pog (or other harmony character)
    you can build lightning Jing yuan and fire hook mono team, but SW mainly is deal with boss because of her kit so use wisely
    Pretty conditional actually, I going to get SW because I got Welt light cone but it didn't apply well on pela but at least it helps in SW skill
    and Asta eidolons

  • @nirviigaming
    @nirviigaming 11 місяців тому +8

    Silverwolf banner also givee u danhang, asta and serval which is pretty neat considering if u go for seele, u're not going for jing yuan.
    But of course for those who has just one healer, luo cha is a must pull instead.

    • @renaiya1666
      @renaiya1666 11 місяців тому +7

      imo there will definitely be more 4* healer coming in the future, pulling for luocha just for 2nd heal right now is probably not worth considering the extra jade you could get from that over just using gepard/march instead

    • @gemgem-hl7ii
      @gemgem-hl7ii 11 місяців тому +1

      Why a must-pull? You don't need a second healer unless it's for Memory of Chaos, but even then, the extra jades you will get will not be worth the amount of jades you'll probably spend to get him. I don't think he is a must-pull. Just get him if you like him.

    • @nirviigaming
      @nirviigaming 11 місяців тому

      U guys are right in a sense but that moc give u lots of resource (onetime) and over time as well. From the look up to 1.3 there is no another 4star healer yet, if u want to wait thats fine as well.
      Meanwhile the game might throw u the event that need two teams?

    • @gemgem-hl7ii
      @gemgem-hl7ii 11 місяців тому

      @@nirviigaming "lots" is a bit of a stretch. It's not even worth thousands of jades. You can 3 star clear all stages Forgotten Hall without a second healer. I was able to do it before TL50, which means all my characters could not be higher than lvl 60, and my only healer is Natasha.
      As for events, they will always give you trial characters.

    • @nirviigaming
      @nirviigaming 11 місяців тому

      @@gemgem-hl7ii I mean i totally get where you're coming from. But i guess it's a bit of a choice to say ok i can go with 1 healer and the other team can live with breaker/tank. Actually it's kinda too early to tell if you'll need the two healer or not in the next month or two. But yea up to now still no 4star healer. The new imaginary one is also not healer.

  • @deroestheknight7853
    @deroestheknight7853 11 місяців тому +19

    I will note with SW is you can make 4 different teams with her depending what 5*s you have.
    Fire: Fireblazer, Asta, Hook/Himeko
    Ice: Gepard, Pela, Yanquing
    Lightning: Bailu, Tingyun, Jing Yuan
    Physical: Natasha, Clara, Sushang (arguably the hardest to run)

    • @ParafrostV
      @ParafrostV 11 місяців тому +13

      A lot of 5 stars u need right there. Sure isn't f2p friendly at all.

    • @ParafrostV
      @ParafrostV 11 місяців тому +7

      Not to mention, Pela and SilverWolf do the same thing on their ult. They don't stack.

    • @deroestheknight7853
      @deroestheknight7853 11 місяців тому +4

      @Parafrost right I did say it depends on what you have and is not available to everyone but I just thought I'd list examples. Also, I thought they would cause pela is Def down and SW applies elemental weakness no?

    • @Konpekikaminari
      @Konpekikaminari 11 місяців тому

      @@deroestheknight7853 Silver Wolf applies a total of 6-7 different debuffs: weakness "bug", slow "bug", def-down "bug", Def-down, ele RES-shred (also possibly all RES-shred), and weakness implant

    • @deroestheknight7853
      @deroestheknight7853 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Konpekikaminari Hmm do there is possible over lap with Def-down from pela which makes her not as valuable (outside of E4 at least) but she can still remove an enemy buff which I think is enough to bring her.

  • @aldo1234aldo1234aldo
    @aldo1234aldo1234aldo 11 місяців тому

    I am aiming for a this teams
    Team 1. Jing Yuan, Tingyun, bailu and Silver Worf for the Lightning 75% chance
    Team 2 Seele, Bronya, luocha and fire trailblazer or gepard If i am lucky to get him, or wait for the 300 selective! I think those 2 team will be top for a while, even when kefka and blade arrive

    • @dvornikovalexei
      @dvornikovalexei 10 місяців тому

      I have Seele but i prefer the Jing Yuan, Bailu, Tingyun/Kafka and whatever tank roster

  • @seng8774
    @seng8774 11 місяців тому +1

    Digimon world 2003 music in the background, very nice.

  • @grosminet9275
    @grosminet9275 11 місяців тому +10

    I think it would be good that silver wolf can apply the elements of one of your teammates that have the most damage on the team

    • @kurokami5964
      @kurokami5964 11 місяців тому

      would be too OP then, unless its eidolon 6, then its a given considering the whaling

  • @MrGshinobi
    @MrGshinobi 11 місяців тому +11

    Luocha is 100% a must-pull unless you have Bailu, in which case it's still recomended to get Luocha because his kit is broken and imaginary is broken.
    People saying that he's not a must pull are coping really, really hard.

    • @jeremiahsmith916
      @jeremiahsmith916 11 місяців тому +3

      I feel many people are also underestimating how broken a debuff ability is. There will be new enemies down the line eventually, with surely some challenging self-buffs. Even current ones can buff up to be a considerable pain (boss Gepard, etc). Sometimes a debuff skill is the only realistic counter to being 1HKO’d

    • @NeonTubeGaming
      @NeonTubeGaming 11 місяців тому +4

      yeah i have bailu and am still contemplating a luocha roll. he literally has every single tool and utility in his kit to be an effective and very long term scaling healer that can comfortably fit into many comps. they literally overloaded his toolkit with the most skills for a healer lol - it makes hard to ignore.

    • @tonilaseng4620
      @tonilaseng4620 11 місяців тому

      @@BizzleMade yeah and luocha fits in any team comp

    • @jeremiahsmith916
      @jeremiahsmith916 11 місяців тому

      @@BizzleMade not sure about that tbh. He's an autotrigger emergency heal, enemy debuff (the only one in the game currently), party-wide buff with the field, and dedicated healing (duh). He outperforms any other sustain unit AND offers utility and damage on top of it, also saving skill points because instaheal is zero cost. "No one is a must pull" might be true in Genshin, but for the current HSR landscape Luocha is just super cracked. It's okay if you don't vibe with the character's looks or personality, that's personal preference. But saying he's "not essential" is pure denial. At the very least, until another equally cracked unit releases, which will take any time from several months to never.

    • @bladra123
      @bladra123 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@Bizzle Made fact of the matter is
      MOC Is either 2 healers or have Gepard.
      And btw our next healer is probably end of this year or next year enjoy natasha for that long unless u luck out bailu or force her through 300 pulls.
      U pull luocha so you get to skip most other preservation/Abundance char as f2p
      And for those who say what if you lose 50/50 to bailu /gepard in the future.
      Replace the natasha/Fire MC from your FH team??
      Imo pulling luocha now saves yourself the hassle coping on 50/50s on when u get bailu/gepard.

  • @ammonbergevin5302
    @ammonbergevin5302 11 місяців тому +1

    TBH I only want the Luocha banner to have 3 healers for running hard abundance teams in simulated universe

  • @shl6367
    @shl6367 10 місяців тому

    Fuxuan would be the quantum tank, so many players (at least from CN community) are kind of investing on a quantum monocolor team and the said team will probably be the first mature meta team

  • @user-wf5jm2nc1h
    @user-wf5jm2nc1h 11 місяців тому +3

    I have one question. I happen to have both Bailu and Natasha and I am interested if Luocha is a decent upgrade to any of them. I like his design, but if he isn’t very beneficial in my situation, I’ll just wait for his rerun.

    • @karmieu
      @karmieu 11 місяців тому +3

      Yeah if you got both healers you probably shouldn’t get him, it’s pretty overkill but if you like him character wise, I can’t stop you

    • @sofiashiny9334
      @sofiashiny9334 11 місяців тому +4

      He's better than Natasha for sure, he can remove debuff from your characters AND remove buff from enemies

    • @karmieu
      @karmieu 11 місяців тому +1

      @@sofiashiny9334 she can also cleanse debuff tho lmao and he’s a five star, in their situation they alr have 2 healers

    • @flatline-timer
      @flatline-timer 11 місяців тому

      He lacks the full party heal that Nat has though, so if you find yourself using her ult a lot maybe it's a little hmm

    • @user-wf5jm2nc1h
      @user-wf5jm2nc1h 11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you for help, everyone:)

  • @birdyashiro1226
    @birdyashiro1226 11 місяців тому +4

    Nice, Luocha is the one.

  • @FearTheOldB
    @FearTheOldB 10 місяців тому

    Based on some testing that was done with the curio in SU that has basically the same effect as SW skill, it doesnt seem to matter how many characters of an element you have in the team. So, 3 fire characters and 1 ice character meant 2 elements so 50/50. That would suck. Thatd mean that if youre not completely mono it, at best, has a 50/50 chance. And reapplying before expiry always procced the other weakness. Ofcourse no guarantee it would be the same but SW seems like a very niche pick. Def wait with pulling until the wales done testing.

  • @danialraziqadwa
    @danialraziqadwa 11 місяців тому

    I just pull for juen i been saving for silver tbh. Hope not regret this. Since i got early cone for juen 😂

  • @tazyjump5377
    @tazyjump5377 11 місяців тому +16

    I have been watching multiple sliver wolf videos from the cbt and each time it still applies weaknesses already on the enemy making it heavily reliant on rng

    • @Saelle-rc7mb
      @Saelle-rc7mb 11 місяців тому

      If we have more quantum characters in the future, then no, because you will be guaranteed a quantum weakness. But for now, it does rely on rng.

    • @rosariosta3899
      @rosariosta3899 11 місяців тому +16

      The leaks from 1.1 beta shows that it has been changed. Now it only applies the weakness if the enemy doesn't have it, but that also means no extra DMG res reduction to the enemies that already have weakness and it is now for 2 turns instead of previous 3.

    • @Saelle-rc7mb
      @Saelle-rc7mb 11 місяців тому

      @@rosariosta3899 that is quite dissapointing

    • @kx2174
      @kx2174 11 місяців тому +11

      @@rosariosta3899 One of her traces gives it an Extra turn now though so it's still 3. From Honey Hunter; Inject
      Requires Character Ascension 4
      The duration of the Weakness implanted by Silver Wolf's Skill increases by 1 turn(s).

    • @malsawmzela609
      @malsawmzela609 11 місяців тому +2

      @@rosariosta3899 wait so if i put her on a mono ice team (Gepard, Yanqing, Pela, SW). And i go against enemies with ice weakness. Then she would offer no further value with her skill at all other than adding quantum weakness, buffing her own damage?
      I thought she would be able to amplify the ice weakness the enemy has.

  • @halberdiers
    @halberdiers 11 місяців тому +5

    Wait how do we know that Silver Wolf's skill of adding a random element takes into account he number of said elements on our team? Was that how it worked in CBT? The wording seems misleading and I would have thought even if there are 3 fire elements on our team it's still 50/50 to add either fire/quantum because technically there are only 2 elements on our team

    • @4xh4n
      @4xh4n 11 місяців тому

      if im not mistaken the wording they used on stream was depending on allies' element. So 3 units sharing the same element has higher chance to proc vs SW 1 unit as an element. Unless of course, they used the word wrongly.

    • @halberdiers
      @halberdiers 10 місяців тому

      @@4xh4n And of course I got proven right, it's 50/50. That's why we don't trust these click baity videos

  • @Z-3-R-O
    @Z-3-R-O 11 місяців тому +2

    I am getting Silver Wolf doesn't really matter to me if she is good or not I am just a casual player so I am really not looking into team comps and such so I will just use whatever I have, just as he said If you like the character get the character..

  • @alexanderzulkarnaen1281
    @alexanderzulkarnaen1281 11 місяців тому +1

    i already have bailu, do you think natasha still good / strong enough to last MOC / endgame ?

  • @ZaxsP
    @ZaxsP 11 місяців тому +5

    I don't think Serval is a permanent free character because we got her as a pre-register bonus. Unless we got an additional copy through the story that I dont remember.

    • @adamtecaw8023
      @adamtecaw8023 11 місяців тому +2

      yeah, you are right. I feel like a lot of people tend to forget about it, that she is NOT free anymore. So unless you played from the beggining, you might not have her

    • @own492
      @own492 11 місяців тому +5

      serval was still free, at least for me, starting like 4/5 days ago

    • @KiririnKiriko
      @KiririnKiriko 11 місяців тому

      I think Free Serval will disappear after 1.1-

    • @gemgem-hl7ii
      @gemgem-hl7ii 11 місяців тому +5

      In Genshin, the pre registration rewards are still available for new players. So I think it would be available permanently

    • @jeremiahsmith916
      @jeremiahsmith916 10 місяців тому +2

      There's a difference between "pre-reg reward" (a.k.a. "a reward which only pre-registered players get") and "reward for meeting the pre-reg milestone" (a.k.a. "every player gets this if the game reaches X amount of pre-regged users"). Serval was the second type, since HSR succeeded in reaching their milestone everyone will always get her through the mail.

  • @sectionya
    @sectionya 11 місяців тому +11

    I understand why Silverwolf will be better later on but I really dont trust mihoyo to rerun her anytime soon so im just gonna try and get her while i can for now.

    • @Ocacadordecasadas
      @Ocacadordecasadas 11 місяців тому +3

      Eula be like

    • @gigitrix
      @gigitrix 11 місяців тому +2

      I am honestly sceptical of "healer scaling off Atk" not getting powercrept in the longer term too

  • @scover3
    @scover3 11 місяців тому +1

    I like Luocha, i wait for Luocha, so i will listen to your advice to pull Luocha.

  • @AiriPlays
    @AiriPlays 11 місяців тому +2

    Why did they have to put Luocha second. Now I gotta wait another 20+ days. T_T

    • @Febard
      @Febard 11 місяців тому +1

      Ye so boring xD i wanna gacha already, but thats how they get you

  • @EACru2002
    @EACru2002 11 місяців тому +17

    I wonder if Hoyoverse was worried about low interest/sales in Luocha because healers have traditionally not been the most attention grabbing new characters in Genshin, so they were like, "Fine, screw it, give him EVERYTHING!" just to drum up interest. If that's the case, gotta say, it's working lol.

    • @Bstrdmn
      @Bstrdmn 11 місяців тому +13

      Idk, he's Otto/void archive and that is basically what Otto/VA in HI3 does. He even has abyss flower

    • @saikei6382
      @saikei6382 11 місяців тому +5

      i mean, healers in other games do like a ton of other things other than just healing and effect res.

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 11 місяців тому +4

      they pretty much rigged it in his favor in almost any way possible, since he's the first rateup healer besides nat whose free. Along with a brand new 4 star+qingque whose a longterm whale toy.

    • @elfireii328
      @elfireii328 11 місяців тому

      I mean, he's hot and I like characters with huge weapons (gepard) so I definitely want him even minus his gameplay.

    • @lewsee5562
      @lewsee5562 11 місяців тому +2

      I feel like Luocha will sell really well because a lot of players don't have a 2nd healer and Gepard.
      He's also riding the popularity from Hi3 as well.

  • @martini9014
    @martini9014 11 місяців тому +9

    What I can tell is that Silverwolf is good for f2p because you don’t have to worry about getting a dips for every type. You can still use your main carry to deal with the bosses. But the effect res on bosses can be a problem if you don’t have enough effect hit rate. Having more characters to use with her is a good and a bad thing. It is good because you will have more options to choose from when forming your team. But if you have the right team for the boss then what’s the point of Silverwolf other then to just apply debuffs and defence shreds. I think Silverwolf is for f2p players who won’t be able to afford all the other dps characters and still want to take on bosses with the right type. Sure you can skip her banner but you will eventually need a character to help with almost everything. You don’t wanna fall behind in the forgotten hall because then you loss the chance to get stellar jade. But another thought I have is why have a debuffer that can miss when you can have a buffer that can’t. Sure weakness break is a big deal at the higher levels but you can pull through without doing any weakness break.
    In conclusion I think that Silverwolf is a good f2p pull for the people who wanna keep using their team without needing to over invest in or have to pull for another dps of the element they need. But who knows, maybe in a year when we have more characters leveled and more characters of the right type we won’t need Silverwolf anymore. But if you just want to pull for her because you like her that is great. Pulling for someone just to complete a challenge or finish end game content is not a good idea. That investment will take a couple months to pay back. I myself just wanna run a mono electro team with Silverwolf,Kafka,serval, and bailu if I get her.

  • @izanau6147
    @izanau6147 10 місяців тому

    so SW is a very rng character huh, jokes on you I had gambling addiction and omw to build qingqiu and seele (I coom every time I use qingque skill)

  • @asdasdasdasd5378
    @asdasdasdasd5378 10 місяців тому

    You don't need mono team. You can use 2 or maybe 3 character boss have elemently weak to it. Which you will have if your team buildings right.

  • @amir-g7284
    @amir-g7284 11 місяців тому +3

    I saw lot of people say her skill is rng but if your team has same elements with your enemy except your dps it's not rng anymore

    • @ParafrostV
      @ParafrostV 11 місяців тому

      Yep but quantum doesn't have a full team and if ur f2p going for full quantum team, ur not going to unless ur insanely lucky. Img doesnt have a cheaper team alternative either since u need Welt and Luocha + Yukong. That team is going to be skill point heavy for Welt and Yukong. Only real f2p teams for SW are ice, physical and maybe fire if you got lucky and got hook or himeko. Asta, Himeko/Hook and Fire MC + SW but Fire MCs arent the strongest so you may or may not need a healer.

    • @baeleth6469
      @baeleth6469 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ParafrostV You don't need a full Quantum team. You just build your team around the enemy's weaknesses. Bring supports of the elements the enemy is already weak too and you get a 100% chance to apply the weakness you want. Works especially well if your dps is Seele, because they're both Quantum.

    • @user-vs6mr6uh5u
      @user-vs6mr6uh5u 11 місяців тому +4

      2 situations: 1. enemy doesnt have quantum weakness, and you have quantum main dps so you bring SW and your quantum main dps, with 2 supports that match the elements of the boss, so you will apply quantum weakness and enable your main dps to do more dmg 2. Enemy has quantum weakness and you have main dps with element that boss doesnt weak to, so you do the same thing
      Even if you're not using her main gimmick she is the best single target debuffer for increasing dmg

    • @ParafrostV
      @ParafrostV 11 місяців тому

      @@user-vs6mr6uh5u 50/50 to apply Quantum weakness. It's all based on your team comp. To eliminate the 50/50, you need a full team of quantum characters else ur just wasting skill points with a 50/50. Perfect scenarios don't always exist you know. Sure you may get lucky and she only applies quantum to the enemy, but that's going to happen 50% of the time realistically, the other 50% is your team dying. If shes not using her gimmick, Pela has more uses as she can remove buffs and do the same def shred with her ult like SW but for aoe. Makes killing smaller enemies easier for Seele.

    • @ParafrostV
      @ParafrostV 11 місяців тому

      @@baeleth6469 so ur willing to gamble on a 50/50 to get that perfect scenario? You do you I guess. Like I said, it will be a 50/50 whether or not she applies the same weakness as your main dmg dealer and if she applies it for characters that already have an advantage on the enemy, it's null and void and she just does an instance of dmg while your main dps doesn't get that boost in their dmg output.

  • @animehbkscm
    @animehbkscm 11 місяців тому +28

    There's nothing in the world that will make me pull for anything before Kafka comes out. NOTHING.

    • @isshonsaha8673
      @isshonsaha8673 11 місяців тому +7

      Inb4 op uses all pulls for Silverwolf and gets Himeko for losing 50/50

    • @justwatchin6188
      @justwatchin6188 11 місяців тому +1

      Lmao, you came to the wrong video then

    • @jeremiahsmith916
      @jeremiahsmith916 10 місяців тому

      you literally can get at least one other featured char before then

  • @user-wz7js9bb6g
    @user-wz7js9bb6g 11 місяців тому

    I got gepard for my second team in MoC and i also have seele. What do you guys suggest i do? Should i pull or nah?

  • @mightyhypopopo2703
    @mightyhypopopo2703 11 місяців тому

    even tho luocha pairs super well with blade i'm probs skipping him since the game gave me e1 bailu and her lightcone... im already tight on pulls savings as f2p so im gonna be broke even if i save all i have by the time blade drops