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I think you are being too harsh on the bloodlash bow. It was designed specifially to support a melee build, so our new spec has some viable itemization, and it's actually pretty damn good at that. They made it a high strength proc and fast speed so it is really good for melee and melee only. And yes the proc is an equip effect so it procs from slashing stuff with your swords. It's like a statstick in the range slot - it procs a lot and 50 strength (aka 50 M-AP) slaps! If it was an agi or AP proc, you would want to use it as ranged too, which would make it BIS for everything and less interesting.
I was coming here to say this. Aggrend said in an interview it’s an on hit with anything effect. It’s specifically for melee hunters. It’s excellent at what it’s intended for.
Yes this bow procs of melee attacks and is only for melee which melee is top dps for hunters atm. For hunters I like how Blizz is making all the specs viable instead of one cookie cutter everyone has to follow. Its still early and they will prob rescale melee with bm and mm. MM will always be my favorite with the aimshot, instant summons to the gy with one button.
For the hunters out there: agility is always better than strength when given the option to choose. Agility gives your pet damage, gives you crit and gives you the same amount of AP (as melee) as strength does.
I feel like for horde pre BIS is def the swords from quests from RFD and SM. I played around with melee hunter last night with BM spec and i doubled the next closest damage dealer. I feel like it forces you to do the event to get that bow for melee hunting due to the chance on proc.
Yea the bloodlasher bow is (equip) chance on hit! Meaning all yours hits can proc +50 str. Not just range hits. Also melee attack power for hunters comes from strength not agility so it definitely the BIS for any melee hunter.
@@sniperdps oh at bis levels you start to outscale the damage loss from that missing hit, you can sim it yourself to understand when you should start replacing your items You also get a bit of hit from other pieces in gnomeregan so there is also that + weapon skill factoring in
Perhaps, but you'd still wanna carry a good amount of arrows, there is no reason you shouldn't also wanna used your ranged attacks when its appropriate, especially in PVP.
P2 is very meh imo. I just pugged p1 without issue, but i might get into a guild this one because pugs are useless when there are more than a couple mechanics. On the other i really don't care aboit gnomer and i miss being ranged, but wotlk spoiled me rotten with that version of steady so now with the fast weapons i have steady just feels like shit to use and melee is pretty dumb fun, but impossible to actually find a group as. And idk. Kinda hoped we would get something more akin to cata and onwards kill command as BM is always my favorite spec. Pretty nice that we can use the same talent builds for melee and ranged though. But fuck lone wolf. Now we're just gonna be flavourless rogues further down the line
Why do you think the PvP bow is garbage in pvp? I use it and it procs all the time and i absolutely melt peoples faces. And ofc I'm topping dps meters in my guild. Cool video by the way.
If you’re not playing orc as melee hunter you are wrong. should watch dreadpigs channel as well if you are a orc melee hunter he goes in depth on pre raid bis axes or potential bis for orc melee hunters.
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The bow str proc DOES PROC OFF MELEE ATTACKS its BIS for melee hunter
MM needs some love
can't agree more, hopefully phase 3 is MM's time, BM and Survival have had their time lol
I think you are being too harsh on the bloodlash bow. It was designed specifially to support a melee build, so our new spec has some viable itemization, and it's actually pretty damn good at that. They made it a high strength proc and fast speed so it is really good for melee and melee only. And yes the proc is an equip effect so it procs from slashing stuff with your swords. It's like a statstick in the range slot - it procs a lot and 50 strength (aka 50 M-AP) slaps! If it was an agi or AP proc, you would want to use it as ranged too, which would make it BIS for everything and less interesting.
Ya considering how good melee is I think it’s pretty cool
I was coming here to say this. Aggrend said in an interview it’s an on hit with anything effect. It’s specifically for melee hunters. It’s excellent at what it’s intended for.
It's pretty good for ranged too as long as you don't use any channeled abilities like aimed and steady.
It also procs from ranged shots
Yes this bow procs of melee attacks and is only for melee which melee is top dps for hunters atm.
For hunters I like how Blizz is making all the specs viable instead of one cookie cutter everyone has to follow. Its still early and they will prob rescale melee with bm and mm. MM will always be my favorite with the aimshot, instant summons to the gy with one button.
For the hunters out there: agility is always better than strength when given the option to choose. Agility gives your pet damage, gives you crit and gives you the same amount of AP (as melee) as strength does.
I feel like for horde pre BIS is def the swords from quests from RFD and SM. I played around with melee hunter last night with BM spec and i doubled the next closest damage dealer. I feel like it forces you to do the event to get that bow for melee hunting due to the chance on proc.
Yea the bloodlasher bow is (equip) chance on hit! Meaning all yours hits can proc +50 str. Not just range hits. Also melee attack power for hunters comes from strength not agility so it definitely the BIS for any melee hunter.
Blizz fudged the bucked on gear for hunters. You shouldn't be forced to use leather for either melee or range. Great guide though!
For dual wielding ranged u forgot to mention WSG dagger with agility and stam
It gives 8 agility and 3 stamina
Could you make a Marksman guid video ? i see only melee hunters right now
same here, what runes do you use?
Lol you mixed up searing arrows and bloodlash bow on your melee BiS image
Don’t you need 5% hit as melee? That’s why I’ve been rocking the BFD set until I can get the new set?
6% actually to get 100% hit on abilities
@@ripedroxx then why on earth are people replacing their BFD set with that green loot?
@@sniperdps because people are stupidly hyperfixated on GS, higher lvl items have an absurdly increase on GS despite being worse than BFD loot
But even wowhead has that item listed as the BiS chest... I honestly dont get it. For ranged hunter, sure... but melee? Makes no sense. @@ripedroxx
@@sniperdps oh at bis levels you start to outscale the damage loss from that missing hit, you can sim it yourself to understand when you should start replacing your items
You also get a bit of hit from other pieces in gnomeregan so there is also that + weapon skill factoring in
You didn't take Drape of Dismantling into consideration for melee hunters?
You're wrong about the bloodlash bow, it procs of melee attacks.
Thank you! It's a very good guide.
I'm also a range hunter, I mean, a real hunter. Also makes me nuts to see the strength items xD
Regarding the Head craft, is the mail 1 that much worse than the leather piece? you dont even mention it ? :D
Damn, grats on gun brother, well deserved!
What pet will u use for phase 2
Gun looks dope!
Bloodlash bow is made for Melee hunter, that's why its strength
I saw you in the wilds of STV during a blood moon event fellow PVE server chad
Can't melee hunter just get rid of their quivers and get anther bag slot?
Perhaps, but you'd still wanna carry a good amount of arrows, there is no reason you shouldn't also wanna used your ranged attacks when its appropriate, especially in PVP.
mail crafted helms sims better on any fight over 60 seconds more and more as the fight goes on
Sgt cloak (r3) Sims better than stv cloak
P2 is very meh imo. I just pugged p1 without issue, but i might get into a guild this one because pugs are useless when there are more than a couple mechanics. On the other i really don't care aboit gnomer and i miss being ranged, but wotlk spoiled me rotten with that version of steady so now with the fast weapons i have steady just feels like shit to use and melee is pretty dumb fun, but impossible to actually find a group as. And idk. Kinda hoped we would get something more akin to cata and onwards kill command as BM is always my favorite spec. Pretty nice that we can use the same talent builds for melee and ranged though. But fuck lone wolf. Now we're just gonna be flavourless rogues further down the line
Why do you think the PvP bow is garbage in pvp? I use it and it procs all the time and i absolutely melt peoples faces. And ofc I'm topping dps meters in my guild. Cool video by the way.
If you’re not playing orc as melee hunter you are wrong. should watch dreadpigs channel as well if you are a orc melee hunter he goes in depth on pre raid bis axes or potential bis for orc melee hunters.
Why are fists better than other weapons for melee
Because they are slow and have high damage. Makes your raptor strike hurt a lot more.
@@Forty2de ok but there are slow swords too right?
@@remyd8767 not really this phase no
Highest weapon dmg as 1h in p2
yeah no agility/str on mail chest would make sense xD leather one 100% better
Mind to borrow a bit of your hunter jesus? I never got p1 crossbow so I'd def. like to have the gun this time around.
I ain't got time for that sheeeit.
Good shieeeet
Fuck yes hunter jesus
Lesgooo
The gear for hunters this phase is a mess. I guess melee hunter is what they want you to play lol
Incoming melee nerfs. Cant wait…
nop
They not op in PvP, no nerfs this time sorry
Try opening your mouth when speaking, thank you