this is ground breaking!!!!! you may make me retire the rapier. This should be seen by everyone and if you know sand and rough the same way thats solid gold bro.
I've used both rapier (9) and EB (5), so my thoughts as follows: the EB method (I personally prefer the 2nd), works, there is zero doubt. I was a faithful rapier user for thousands of games, but using basic balls on T10, i was finding myself in max wedge range with high winds a lot, and was having a really hard time finding accurate adjustments for rapier using traditional elevation/slider methods. switched to EB, applied the method, had immediate positive results...so i rode with EB for a while. For whatever reason, i started to have issues hitting perfect with it, so even though the adjustment was (i assume) correct, i was missing those max chips...but the bigger issue was, at level 5, it lacks topspin, so on those close range chips where you just want to max out the TS and make life simple, it wasn't as reliable as rapier. so, i went back to rapier, but applied the same EB method to chips that were at or greater than 50% club distance. the method works for rapier just fine, which makes sense, since the primary adjustment stats (power & accuracy) are virtually identical). this way, i get the reliability of the EB method for long range chips using the rapier, but the short range chips i can now use the topspin to spin it to the hole and get under the wind. i've also been hitting perfect with rapier at a significantly higher rate...that might just be in my head, but there are def clubs that are easier to find perfect with, and - at least for me - EB might be one. i'm close to getting it to 6, but among all epics, the move from 5 to 6 on the EB might be the least impactful - only bump is slight bit of power and more backspin, which is virtually never used. so i'll probably stick with rapier, but apply the EB method.
@trevorloyd same here…I’m even at 6 EB and still think Rapier9 is better due to topspin. But when you say u use rapier w/EB method, which EB method are you talking about, this videos 1st or 2nd (spin vs no spin)? All this video did was push me away from EB bcuz his examples would’ve dropped with a wide variety of adjustments
@@JTMagXX this is pretty old, i switched to eb full time once it got to 7, it's now maxed on my main acct and at 7 on my alt. at the time i wrote that, i would use the eb no-spin method with rapier if it was at 50% or more to the pin, and full topspin if it was close. i honestly don't remember, but i assume i was just offsetting somewhat for those full TS shots. there is a more reliable adjustment for full TS shots, it's the same basic idea as the no spin method, but you apply -35% elevation instead of +20%.
I was a rapier over EB club man from the start, I switched just a couple of months ago when someone told me about the 20% + Slider method and haven't looked back, win alot more chip ins over my rapier now, thanks to that method! Great video, game changer!
Great tips on wedge use and figuring adjustments for wind Jared! I like the second method the best. I've actually applied this 2nd method when using the Rapier and it works as pretty well (slider + 20%). That is until my EB gets to a higher level. Thank you!
Dude you just took my tour/tourney wins go way high. I’ve got every club dialed in except the eb and I’ve always struggled with mid to max chips. Now thanks to you I can see my tourney scores dropping already!!! Thanks
Thanks for the video, I also would like to see a nirvana or Spitfire instructional video like Shiva mentioned. I’ve been playing about 18 months, but only seriously about the last 6 months. I was team rapier all day until I tried the EB 20% method with my 2nd & 3rd newbie accounts. Worked like a charm at levels 3 & 4 EB on newer acts & switched a couple months ago on my main(EB6) & not looking back!!! Great video!
Thanks for the guide Jared! My question is if you don't use an app how does slider convert to normal adjustments, i.e rings vs. wind? I don't have any apps or grid overlay. Thanks again, you've already changed my game by playing with spin but can't seem to get the no spin dialed in.
@@JaredAGolf Thanks for clarifying. Appreciate the vid. I love the max rapier for short chips, basically a putter, but tired of burning the edge at distance. Swapped both my accounts. 😎
could you clarify this slider statement please, I use clash caddie do you mean a "mid" adjustment with a 20% elevation or set the slider at 70% ( mid with 20% distance ) , thanks
Hey Jared, great stuff. I have been using this method with success but struggling when the target is before the pin. I'm having trouble adding the extra yardage. Any way you could explain this method. From the target to the end of the line is an extra 20% I believe but what if you still can't make it without topspin...thanks. Using GC Notebook btw.
I started using Jareds method and i have already won a number of games. Simple and effective. Use clash caddie for adjustment numbers after typing in % and 20 on slider and hit Great is ok. Thanks Jared. Im subscribed.
New guy here. Great video. Can someone tell me a little more about the sliders and +20%? Looking for definitions of what/where a slider is and how to add or takeaway %. Thanks!
You can use method 1 with any wedge. I use it with rapier. Stretch to max then find 50%, then 25%, you can also go to 12.5% for short chips with high cross winds. make adjustment then hit.
Very interesting, Jared. Thanks! It works. Amazingly, it seems to work for the B52 and the Nirvana as well. I've only tried a few times with each but dropped each one!. Keep up the great work.
We all know Endbringer is better club when its reach level 7, but comparison depends on their levels. Can someone explain me why i should use Endbringer 6 if i have a Rapier 9.? it has same accuracy same ball guideline plus the topspin that keeps you under the wind most of the time... And endbringer rule works for Rapier too. I tried it
The reason I searched for the video is because I missed a shot with the EB... Didn't realize the EB had it's own set of rules. Thank you, Jared. And thanks to the peeps who pointed me to this video.
I’ll definitely be giving this a go when my eb reaches level 5! Thanks for the time and effort you put into this video :) see you soon on your live stream.
What if the pin is just beyond max stretch enough that you can't adjust all the way? Is it preferable to add a bit of topspin, or op a tad, in combo with a +25% or +30 or +40? I still prefer the EB instead of moving to a short iron
you forgot one thing: the eb is an epic, the rapier a rare club, so people most likely have a rapier; distance means nothing to a wedge; better to adjust with short iron min distance than wedge max distance you also forgot the Topspin; even with a low level rapier you can put on huge ts what makes it a lot easier to adjust for; so for about 80%? of people rapier is the choice unless you got an eb almost maxed out
@@JaredAGolf I never knew any of this at all and I still chose to use the engbringer with 70% accuracy you can't go to far wrong. It does seem that the furthest I am away the harder it gets to sink the ball in the cup.. So what I'm taking from this video is that if I stretch my guideline to 100%, then where ever the pin is that's my percentage that I'm looking for roughly right? So once I make a rough percentage from where the pin is at, I move my percentage dial to the number of percentage that I've found and then type in my ring numbers.. And also use 20% elevation if that makes sense.. If I get this to work for me you will have helped to change my game and also help me get further up in tournaments. I was using the rotation technique along with the ring system but I switched back to just using eye judgement and the rings leaving out the rotation.. I just find with the rotation that you can't see where your guideline moves to once you start the rotation process and then you have to take the shot not knowing if your guidance is off or on target.. Have you any tips on using the rotation ring system to help me be more accurate?
@@dfstarborn I'm not sure I'm familiar with the rotation ring system you are speaking of. You are perfectly right with your understanding of the 20% method.
~The negative about the accurate clubs is that the rings are much thinner so it's harder to be more accurate when you try to rotate and adjust your rings.. You need thin fingers lol.. I find the endbringer very good but it's hard once the winds go up so all I can do is add topspin so that the target ring will become smaller which makes it more accurate. The rapier has crap accuracy even at grade 5 and it's very expensive.. The epics are a joke as I've got about two thors hammer cards in about the space of two months.. I just got the Apoc after playing the game for about 8 months so I'll be waiting forever to get that to grade 5 which is where it hits the 140 yard mark.
I’ve been using the rapier 8 here lately, but I’ve been back and forth since getting my endbringer. Like u said it was ready to play with. It was as good or better than the rapier which has always been 3-4 levels ahead of the EB. It’s awesome that I got on today and played few games. I opened my chests and there were the cards to level up my EB to level 5. I get on the tube for golden shot guide and see your tutorial. The debate is over for now at least. Thanks for the tips, the switch has been made and off to get battle tested.
The "slider" is the feature on the clash caddie or golf clash notebook app. It is the percentage of the club that you are aiming your club at. So if you stretch your target out to max, determine what percentage club the pin is located and type that number into the slider section of the app.
It will run as a slide over widget on iPad, iPhone becomes a little more difficult and takes getting used to. When I play seriously for tournaments and streaming, I use 2 devices, play on iPad and use iPhone for the app. There are lots of tutorials including one on my channel of how to use it on an iPhone.
For method #1, which I only use if I'm at max distance with the EB and have to topspin it to the hole, what if there is uphill elevation? Do you do 1:1 plus 2 instead of 3, or is it 3 no matter what?
The formula of max+3 is too much for small winds. You can see this at 7:35 (almost misses) and it's not even a crosswind. +3 rings (or +30%) is more appropriate for 10+mph winds. Even +25%.
Neither of these methods has helped my EB6 in the most recent Master tournaments… but rapier 9 with max top spin, no calculator, just visual guessing has worked better than EB6. Been close with these methods, but missing evrytime outside of 50% club. Also, maxing side spin in either direction seems to significantly help drop
My Rapier 8 has 1 less yard of power than my EB 4. But, it has more accuracy, more top spin, back spin curl and ball guide. It's not even close. The Rapier at my levels is much better
I have a maxed Rapier and EB5. EB has 1 more yard, same accuracy and ball guide. All other stats are maxed out for Rapier. No need for me to switch. I love the TS of the Rapier too much and have learned to master it. I’ll stick with my Rapier.
We just discovered this video and it's fantastic. But we do have a question about EB5 vs. Rapier 9. The stats are VERY close, so why wouldn't this method work with the Rapier?
There’s a lot of debate about that question exactly! In theory it should act the same way, and many people use it the same way....in the end, it’s all about finding the right fit for your playing style and getting the ball in the hole!!
I’ve been using this method with the rapier 9 and it works perfectly because it’s 95% accurate just as the endbringer 5 but has more forward spin. I’m not sure if this works with EB 7+ because of 100 accuracy. Do you have any suggestions on EB7+? Thank you and keep up good work JA.
Jared, I have a question: say EB6 which has an adjustment in min distance of 4.5 and in mid 2.25. Now say you have a 4.5mph wind and distance to PIN is 10%, the adjustment according to this method would be 0,48 Rings. This is where I get confused. The wind is 4.5mph so adjusting in min distance would require an adjustment of 1 Ring which is MORE than the adjustment in 10% distance? Would you suggest to go with the 0.48 Rings as calculated in accordance with the method (Notebook adjustments for 10% distance * 1.2) or with about 1.3 Rings (=(min distance adjustment + 10%*(mid adjustment - min adjustment))*1.2)?
Thank you very much bro, I was looking for how to calculate the percentage of the hedge and now I got the maximum information, thanks bro, I will now train and win tournaments,👏👍🤝
Jarod... Great video... I'm assuming when you reference 20% in method 2 you are talking about elevation setting... Always been a big eb fan and have used aprox 10% as my base number this looks very interesting especially for dialing in those long shots in higher winds.. Thx again
Hello Jared, thank you so much for this great method and video. I am a Spanish player and was wondering if you would mind if I used this video to translate to Spanish for Spanish players, specially for my clans?
Hi Jared great video just like to ask is with your video does it matter what level your EB is as mine is at lvl 6 as I mainly use the rapier which is maxed out.
Not sure about the plus 20% and what it means.. Must I always use plus 20% like here is what I have been doing all along.. I just say to myself. down hill is plus and up hill is minus.. I really want to practice the last technique in this video as it seems the easiest to understand given the allotted time that's given during the game to take the shot.. And I wonder does this work with any of the other clubs? Thanks again, great video guide and tutorial.
No it wont work with all wedges. Yes with the Endbringer we always use 20% elevation as a base, because the rings on the Endbringer even though the accuracy is 95 or 100 are actually smaller than even a true 100% accuracy club. Which is why with a level 4 and under I only recommend 15% because the rings are slightly bigger. The 20% elevation is what you put into your caddie app to calculate your adjustment.
@@JaredAGolf Sorry about the delay as I must have missed the notification to say you replied. I just tried the endbring rule at 15% and I sunk 3 out of 6 which isn't bad. I practiced on tour 1 just to get my speed up in regards to setting. You need to be fast on tour 1 because the needle is very slow but that doesn't matter as at least it allows me to get used to the set up. One shot I missed seemed up hill so I put the elevation at 10% but it came up short of the hole. The next time I tried 15% and it went in so that's a bit strange. I do realize that the EB 4 isn't as accurate as grade 5 and I'm not to far away needing only about 14 cards. I'll have to try out both methods as they'll come in handy when closer to the hole in high winds. I supposed with practice I'll speed up, but I guess nerves are involved and maybe trying to be to perfect slows me down right now. Have you any tips for the Spitfire at grade 4 as it hasn't the best guideline and I'm only using it because it comes in handy for the par 4's and 5s on t9. Thanks for your response and again, sorry for the delay with response. You've got a lot of admirers out there and It'sRJtv is one of them as he mentions you for every EB shot he makes lol.
this is awesome, thanks. Golf Clash Tommy recommend to watch on the tournament walk through for Heroes of Rock tourney. Great content, will definitely be applying to my games!
@11:30 when doing adjustment was it 4.1 rings or 4.0 NOT using the powerball selector option?! Just trying to figure out if I had method/number%'s down
Always use the power of the ball in app that you are using. At 11:30 adjustment would have been 50% slider, plus 20% elevation with a power 1 ball gives me 3.5 rings.
Awesome video Jared. I didn't look through the comments, so sorry if this was already answered. With Method 1, are those numbers at no elevation change? If so, how would it adjust in the event of a large elevation difference?
Right! Playing the first method gets a little more tricky as you get into higher tours, winds and elevation I have found. I think the 2nd method is preferred by most!
@@JaredAGolf Agreed! Method 2 is my preferred method all day every day. Works well with higher level Rapiers too. Has anyone tried to determine how much extra elevation to add as the hole extends beyond the club's max distance?
@@mgentile589 we always just estimate how far the pin is beyond max, and add to the slider. The clash caddie slider has a setting that will allow the slider to go all the way to 200%. Other than that you can just add "elevation" to the 20% if its beyond max.
Just wanted to follow up on your video again, once I tried your method. I had been using a maxed out Rapier, but no more. Wow!!! I’ve now made 8 out of 10 EB shots attempted, just unreal. My only misses were my fault, due to poor needle execution, by me. If you haven’t tried Jared’s method, your really missing a potentialgame changer. Thanks again for sharing Jared! Happy New Year!
All the the shots were either low wind or straight on shots. The only high wind was straight. I could use more examples of 10+ cross winds at 50+ distance to be convinced. Does this same method work for the Rapier? Mine is definitively better than my Endbringer. Also, I seem to have a harder time hitting perfect with the Endbringer.
If the wind is high and the green is even I don't think topspin will do any harm. The Rapier guys miss when they combine long flight and cranked topspin on a bumpy green.
Lost on this is that for quite a while the rapier’s top spin makes up for any power loss, making min distance shots into no move shots, mid distance shots into slight move shots, and max distance shots into medium, leaving out almost all actual max distance shots because the min distance short iron shot takes over then. Plus you can use these same tactics for the rapier also. Use which ever you like. I don’t care.
Ok I have eb 5 and been killing with this method but when I am at max and I do 1/1+3 I'm off. Example I had a 7.7 wind and pulled 10.7 rings and I was off by quite a bit what did I do wrong
Question : if we normally use notebook with the wind arrow , I’m guessing we wouldn’t need to use 20%. But , I guess I could just not use wind arrow on the wedge shot and stick to the rules In the vid🤷♂️.
Great info! For method #1, do we need to consider elevation? Say we are at MAX distance and 25% downhill like Grunberg Slopes hole #2? Also what if we are using a Power 5 ball?
two things - If you're going to suggest playing the EB at lvl 5 then it might make the video more accurate if you actually used level 5. In the 1st method you're using an EB8 and putting a decent amount of Topspin on the ball, something EB lacks until level 7. Would be unfortunate to display a video if you can't apply that amount of TS to reach the hole at your designated marks. That said, it was a solid video and thanks for sharing.
Thanks Eric! EB Level 5 gives you 56 Top Spin which is actually more than enough to play a shot at 25% club or close enough to it and spin the ball guide to the hole. One of the reasons I recommend the NO spin option only for those lower level EB's, but at Level 5 its the money club for sure!
@@JaredAGolf Wanted to check EB5/6 gives you exactly 5TS, I believe that was the same amount that you used in your video. Ended up playing the hole and had to use EB to chip for eagle. +20% mid numbers hit perfect and down she went.
That was going to be my question. I believe that it's much better to let the shot roll out rather than using back spin, but it is a bit of a risk (IMO) to use this method for the greens that are inconsistent, especially if you are using the 1st method for a shot where you are using a lot of top spin on a tricky green. But I will say this is a great tutorial and I'm glad you chose to share it with everyone.
JARED on the 2nd example if the shot is at 50% on the slider do i add 20% to the slider value or is the 20% in the elevation adjustment and would a 50% shot be at mid distance?
Looks great but does it work with real wind? Because on your examples you have eb 7 or 8 but with rookies wind. Is it the same with 10 to 15 wind? Thanks for your video
@@JaredAGolf so 2.3% of the total views “liked” the video…doesn’t prove the point you’re trying to make with this response. And like a lot of people mentioned, you’re using eb7,8 for rookie level winds, and the 1 high wind example was almost direct headwind, which a wide range of adjustments would’ve worked for that shot.
With a high enough wind, I was still missing using 20%. I started using 15% with my EB5>6 and it's rare to miss at any distance, still feels like I'm over adjusting judging by where the ball always lands in the cup but at least it gets in the cup now.
That's because both methods are faulty... The reason it "works" is because: 1. Extremely small bullseye, 2. Most of his examples are in head/tailwind.. But if we take the first method, and you look at those 2 clips with sidewind, particulary the one with 9+ wind, it doesn't go "straight at the pin".. It just barely drops left edge! Sure if you don't use an app use that method, but use it more like: 25% club = adjust 1/3 (33%) of the wind in rings (10 in wind = around 3.3 rings) , 50% club = adjust 3/5 (60%) of the wind in rings , 75% club = adjust 9/10 (90%) of the wind (10mph wind = 9 rings) , and 100% club = adjust 12/10 (120%) of the wind [EB LVL 5]. The reason the second method works (except for the reasons mentioned above) is because his bullseye always is around 20-25% (slider) below the pin, and should be the position that he is using as a reference, but with +30% elevation instead of 20%. I play both EB6 and Rapier9 at +30% elevation from the start, adding/subtracting elevation depending on the hole, and i have not missed ONE SINGLE SHOT where i had the correct elevation for the hole beforehand. To J! I really appreciate the guides and tutorials made by you (and many other streamers/uploaders) and don't wanna sound unsupportive/negative. I just think that if a video like this gets posted, it should be with accurate numbers=) keep up the good work!
If you have Rapier8 and EB4, the Rapier has superior accuracy in that case. So if you have Rapier8 and EB4, would you go Rapier in that situation because it has superior accuracy?
this is ground breaking!!!!! you may make me retire the rapier. This should be seen by everyone and if you know sand and rough the same way thats solid gold bro.
I've used both rapier (9) and EB (5), so my thoughts as follows:
the EB method (I personally prefer the 2nd), works, there is zero doubt. I was a faithful rapier user for thousands of games, but using basic balls on T10, i was finding myself in max wedge range with high winds a lot, and was having a really hard time finding accurate adjustments for rapier using traditional elevation/slider methods. switched to EB, applied the method, had immediate positive results...so i rode with EB for a while. For whatever reason, i started to have issues hitting perfect with it, so even though the adjustment was (i assume) correct, i was missing those max chips...but the bigger issue was, at level 5, it lacks topspin, so on those close range chips where you just want to max out the TS and make life simple, it wasn't as reliable as rapier. so, i went back to rapier, but applied the same EB method to chips that were at or greater than 50% club distance. the method works for rapier just fine, which makes sense, since the primary adjustment stats (power & accuracy) are virtually identical). this way, i get the reliability of the EB method for long range chips using the rapier, but the short range chips i can now use the topspin to spin it to the hole and get under the wind. i've also been hitting perfect with rapier at a significantly higher rate...that might just be in my head, but there are def clubs that are easier to find perfect with, and - at least for me - EB might be one. i'm close to getting it to 6, but among all epics, the move from 5 to 6 on the EB might be the least impactful - only bump is slight bit of power and more backspin, which is virtually never used. so i'll probably stick with rapier, but apply the EB method.
@trevorloyd same here…I’m even at 6 EB and still think Rapier9 is better due to topspin. But when you say u use rapier w/EB method, which EB method are you talking about, this videos 1st or 2nd (spin vs no spin)? All this video did was push me away from EB bcuz his examples would’ve dropped with a wide variety of adjustments
My bad, you answered my question by saying the 2nd method. So does that mean you used the EB no spin method on rapier shots with spin?
@@JTMagXX this is pretty old, i switched to eb full time once it got to 7, it's now maxed on my main acct and at 7 on my alt. at the time i wrote that, i would use the eb no-spin method with rapier if it was at 50% or more to the pin, and full topspin if it was close. i honestly don't remember, but i assume i was just offsetting somewhat for those full TS shots. there is a more reliable adjustment for full TS shots, it's the same basic idea as the no spin method, but you apply -35% elevation instead of +20%.
Thanks!
Thank you!!
I was a rapier over EB club man from the start, I switched just a couple of months ago when someone told me about the 20% + Slider method and haven't looked back, win alot more chip ins over my rapier now, thanks to that method! Great video, game changer!
The best instruction video I've seen for GC!!! Thank you!
Amazing I just got endbring 5, and switched from rapier 7 i haven't missed a shot yet using the first example, thanks for this Jared
Great tips on wedge use and figuring adjustments for wind Jared! I like the second method the best. I've actually applied this 2nd method when using the Rapier and it works as pretty well (slider + 20%). That is until my EB gets to a higher level. Thank you!
Dude you just took my tour/tourney wins go way high. I’ve got every club dialed in except the eb and I’ve always struggled with mid to max chips. Now thanks to you I can see my tourney scores dropping already!!! Thanks
That’s so awesome!
Thanks for the video, I also would like to see a nirvana or Spitfire instructional video like Shiva mentioned. I’ve been playing about 18 months, but only seriously about the last 6 months. I was team rapier all day until I tried the EB 20% method with my 2nd & 3rd newbie accounts. Worked like a charm at levels 3 & 4 EB on newer acts & switched a couple months ago on my main(EB6) & not looking back!!! Great video!
Ive been playing this game for more than 3 years just found this out???? Thank You wow
Thanks jared, soooo good presentation! Wish you all the best
Amazing Video and explanation. Has boosted my confidence in Master tourney chips like nobody's business. Thank you Jared
Glad to help
Thanks for the guide Jared! My question is if you don't use an app how does slider convert to normal adjustments, i.e rings vs. wind? I don't have any apps or grid overlay. Thanks again, you've already changed my game by playing with spin but can't seem to get the no spin dialed in.
I also use the endbringer rule with the firefly. Awesome rule
Thanks for the very useful information. I will be using it when I find EB.
Glad it was helpful!
My confusion is when you say 50% slider plus 20% are you saying 70% slider or add 20% elivation and 50% slider? Thanks. If you even see this 😎
Find where the pin is, put that number into your slider. Always use 20% as your elevation. 😎
@@JaredAGolf Thanks for clarifying. Appreciate the vid. I love the max rapier for short chips, basically a putter, but tired of burning the edge at distance. Swapped both my accounts. 😎
Just thinking. For a wind of 3mph. At max you wouldn’t adjust 6 rings? (1 per wind + 3) ?
I use the rock for chip in every time. Saves a lot of strokes 16:30
could you clarify this slider statement please, I use clash caddie do you mean a "mid" adjustment with a 20% elevation or set the slider at 70% ( mid with 20% distance ) , thanks
Yes use the slider for example at 70%, or wherever the PIN is located, and use 20% Elevation.
Hey Jared, great stuff. I have been using this method with success but struggling when the target is before the pin. I'm having trouble adding the extra yardage. Any way you could explain this method. From the target to the end of the line is an extra 20% I believe but what if you still can't make it without topspin...thanks. Using GC Notebook btw.
I started using Jareds method and i have already won a number of games. Simple and effective. Use clash caddie for adjustment numbers after typing in % and 20 on slider and hit Great is ok. Thanks Jared. Im subscribed.
So awesome bro! Thanks!
New guy here. Great video. Can someone tell me a little more about the sliders and +20%? Looking for definitions of what/where a slider is and how to add or takeaway %. Thanks!
You can use method 1 with any wedge. I use it with rapier. Stretch to max then find 50%, then 25%, you can also go to 12.5% for short chips with high cross winds. make adjustment then hit.
Paws and putt’s recommended. Awesome video. Thanks Jared. Subscriber!!!
Great video dude.....lots of explaining and examples.... Max Mid and Min distance. Just up'd my game. Endbringer level 5
Very interesting, Jared. Thanks! It works. Amazingly, it seems to work for the B52 and the Nirvana as well. I've only tried a few times with each but dropped each one!. Keep up the great work.
This is THE BEST method I've ever used! I'm sinking crazy chip ins while my opponents are 😝😆😜at me!
Carma is a....Good luck everyone!!
We all know Endbringer is better club when its reach level 7, but comparison depends on their levels. Can someone explain me why i should use Endbringer 6 if i have a Rapier 9.? it has same accuracy same ball guideline plus the topspin that keeps you under the wind most of the time... And endbringer rule works for Rapier too. I tried it
Personally, I think the Rapier is better at lv9 until EB gets to 100% accuracy. And even then it might be situational imo.
Agreed
Thanks Jared. My EB is at 6... This will help me a lot.
The reason I searched for the video is because I missed a shot with the EB... Didn't realize the EB had it's own set of rules. Thank you, Jared. And thanks to the peeps who pointed me to this video.
I’ll definitely be giving this a go when my eb reaches level 5! Thanks for the time and effort you put into this video :) see you soon on your live stream.
Great presentation, great content:) you've sold me on the EB!!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
Does this rule still work for eb6,7? Seems like I'm just missing or circling the cup with my eb7 when using the 20% rule
For me which higher guide I will use.
First time I tried this method, Boom! Not looking back to Firefly or Rapier. Great video!
Thanks Jared.. I will using this all the time👍
What power ball setting do you use on the app? Same as the current ball you're using?
Yep! Same as the one you are using!
Perfect...works great. Subscribed 👍
What if the pin is just beyond max stretch enough that you can't adjust all the way? Is it preferable to add a bit of topspin, or op a tad, in combo with a +25% or +30 or +40? I still prefer the EB instead of moving to a short iron
Thanks Jared. I always play the EB plus 20% but I will now give this no spin a shot.
It works! It does work!!! I'm actually chipping more balls!! Thanks a lot, Jared!!
you forgot one thing: the eb is an epic, the rapier a rare club, so people most likely have a rapier; distance means nothing to a wedge; better to adjust with short iron min distance than wedge max distance
you also forgot the Topspin; even with a low level rapier you can put on huge ts what makes it a lot easier to adjust for;
so for about 80%? of people rapier is the choice unless you got an eb almost maxed out
I used to think exactly what you are saying before I learned and switched to playing with the EndBringer and it completely changed my game.
@@JaredAGolf I never knew any of this at all and I still chose to use the engbringer with 70% accuracy you can't go to far wrong. It does seem that the furthest I am away the harder it gets to sink the ball in the cup.. So what I'm taking from this video is that if I stretch my guideline to 100%, then where ever the pin is that's my percentage that I'm looking for roughly right?
So once I make a rough percentage from where the pin is at, I move my percentage dial to the number of percentage that I've found and then type in my ring numbers.. And also use 20% elevation if that makes sense.. If I get this to work for me you will have helped to change my game and also help me get further up in tournaments. I was using the rotation technique along with the ring system but I switched back to just using eye judgement and the rings leaving out the rotation.. I just find with the rotation that you can't see where your guideline moves to once you start the rotation process and then you have to take the shot not knowing if your guidance is off or on target.. Have you any tips on using the rotation ring system to help me be more accurate?
@@dfstarborn I'm not sure I'm familiar with the rotation ring system you are speaking of. You are perfectly right with your understanding of the 20% method.
That's two things. Stick to your Rapier.
~The negative about the accurate clubs is that the rings are much thinner so it's harder to be more accurate when you try to rotate and adjust your rings.. You need thin fingers lol.. I find the endbringer very good but it's hard once the winds go up so all I can do is add topspin so that the target ring will become smaller which makes it more accurate. The rapier has crap accuracy even at grade 5 and it's very expensive.. The epics are a joke as I've got about two thors hammer cards in about the space of two months.. I just got the Apoc after playing the game for about 8 months so I'll be waiting forever to get that to grade 5 which is where it hits the 140 yard mark.
Cheeers dude. I use EB4 so will use method #2 in tournaments
I’ve been using the rapier 8 here lately, but I’ve been back and forth since getting my endbringer. Like u said it was ready to play with. It was as good or better than the rapier which has always been 3-4 levels ahead of the EB. It’s awesome that I got on today and played few games. I opened my chests and there were the cards to level up my EB to level 5. I get on the tube for golden shot guide and see your tutorial. The debate is over for now at least. Thanks for the tips, the switch has been made and off to get battle tested.
The endbringer is in my bag now 😊
Jared...you talk about moving the “slider” a certain percentage. Is this the target? If not, what is it? And a percentage of what? The wind?
The "slider" is the feature on the clash caddie or golf clash notebook app. It is the percentage of the club that you are aiming your club at. So if you stretch your target out to max, determine what percentage club the pin is located and type that number into the slider section of the app.
Jared A Do you find either app has improved your play?
I use clash caddie, and yes, never play without it!
Jared A Does the app run on the same device as GC or do you use two devices?
It will run as a slide over widget on iPad, iPhone becomes a little more difficult and takes getting used to. When I play seriously for tournaments and streaming, I use 2 devices, play on iPad and use iPhone for the app. There are lots of tutorials including one on my channel of how to use it on an iPhone.
For method #1, which I only use if I'm at max distance with the EB and have to topspin it to the hole, what if there is uphill elevation? Do you do 1:1 plus 2 instead of 3, or is it 3 no matter what?
I would plus or minus rings for up hill or downhill!
@@JaredAGolf Yes, that's what I thought. Was just wondering if there was a more specific formula, like minus one ring for -5 elevation, etc.
It will be important if I get this hole 1 slice to EB territory in the Expert tourney...
At 5:30 you say adjust to half the wind which was 5.3mph then say that should be 2.1. That should be 2.65 rings though right?
Just wanted to say thanks and let you know how much this helped my short game..A++++
The formula of max+3 is too much for small winds. You can see this at 7:35 (almost misses) and it's not even a crosswind. +3 rings (or +30%) is more appropriate for 10+mph winds. Even +25%.
Totally agree
Neither of these methods has helped my EB6 in the most recent Master tournaments… but rapier 9 with max top spin, no calculator, just visual guessing has worked better than EB6. Been close with these methods, but missing evrytime outside of 50% club. Also, maxing side spin in either direction seems to significantly help drop
Just been trying out your 2nd example with my Endbringer 6, got rid of the Rapier for good now, it works a treat! cheers bro :)
Keep rapier until you get EB7.
You have changed my game for the better. Thank you man!
OK bro, you have convinced me to give it a try. Been Rapier forever until this video, all EBs are 5 or more...
You'll love it. 👀👆
My Rapier 8 has 1 less yard of power than my EB 4. But, it has more accuracy, more top spin, back spin curl and ball guide. It's not even close. The Rapier at my levels is much better
I have a maxed Rapier and EB5. EB has 1 more yard, same accuracy and ball guide. All other stats are maxed out for Rapier. No need for me to switch. I love the TS of the Rapier too much and have learned to master it. I’ll stick with my Rapier.
Ty jared,very interesting,gng to give it a try
We just discovered this video and it's fantastic. But we do have a question about EB5 vs. Rapier 9. The stats are VERY close, so why wouldn't this method work with the Rapier?
There’s a lot of debate about that question exactly! In theory it should act the same way, and many people use it the same way....in the end, it’s all about finding the right fit for your playing style and getting the ball in the hole!!
I’ve been using this method with the rapier 9 and it works perfectly because it’s 95% accurate just as the endbringer 5 but has more forward spin. I’m not sure if this works with EB 7+ because of 100 accuracy. Do you have any suggestions on EB7+? Thank you and keep up good work JA.
Works perfect with the EB7+!
Can the 1st method be used on endb4? I’m more on using spin to the hole than the other method.
I would try adding 1 ring to the chart until you get it to Level 5 because of the rings being slightly bigger with Level 4.
Is still add a little bit more with extreme crosswinds of 15mph
great video, very helpful
Great info... defo going to use that second method... many thanks...first time watched you... great setup and going to watch more
Jared, I have a question: say EB6 which has an adjustment in min distance of 4.5 and in mid 2.25. Now say you have a 4.5mph wind and distance to PIN is 10%, the adjustment according to this method would be 0,48 Rings. This is where I get confused. The wind is 4.5mph so adjusting in min distance would require an adjustment of 1 Ring which is MORE than the adjustment in 10% distance? Would you suggest to go with the 0.48 Rings as calculated in accordance with the method (Notebook adjustments for 10% distance * 1.2) or with about 1.3 Rings (=(min distance adjustment + 10%*(mid adjustment - min adjustment))*1.2)?
Thank you very much bro, I was looking for how to calculate the percentage of the hedge and now I got the maximum information, thanks bro, I will now train and win tournaments,👏👍🤝
Jarod... Great video... I'm assuming when you reference 20% in method 2 you are talking about elevation setting... Always been a big eb fan and have used aprox 10% as my base number this looks very interesting especially for dialing in those long shots in higher winds.. Thx again
Yes! 20% as a base and the slider where the PIN is! Thanks so much!
Do you have this method for any other clubs or do they work the same
Check out the rest of the channel, there is one for rough and sand irons, and slider school that teaches you about other clubs.😁
Hello Jared, thank you so much for this great method and video. I am a Spanish player and was wondering if you would mind if I used this video to translate to Spanish for Spanish players, specially for my clans?
Obviously I will give you all the credit
No problem at all
Hi Jared great video just like to ask is with your video does it matter what level your EB is as mine is at lvl 6 as I mainly use the rapier which is maxed out.
Not sure about the plus 20% and what it means.. Must I always use plus 20% like here is what I have been doing all along.. I just say to myself. down hill is plus and up hill is minus.. I really want to practice the last technique in this video as it seems the easiest to understand given the allotted time that's given during the game to take the shot..
And I wonder does this work with any of the other clubs? Thanks again, great video guide and tutorial.
No it wont work with all wedges. Yes with the Endbringer we always use 20% elevation as a base, because the rings on the Endbringer even though the accuracy is 95 or 100 are actually smaller than even a true 100% accuracy club. Which is why with a level 4 and under I only recommend 15% because the rings are slightly bigger. The 20% elevation is what you put into your caddie app to calculate your adjustment.
@@JaredAGolf Thanks buddy..
@@JaredAGolf Sorry about the delay as I must have missed the notification to say you replied. I just tried the endbring rule at 15% and I sunk 3 out of 6 which isn't bad. I practiced on tour 1 just to get my speed up in regards to setting. You need to be fast on tour 1 because the needle is very slow but that doesn't matter as at least it allows me to get used to the set up. One shot I missed seemed up hill so I put the elevation at 10% but it came up short of the hole. The next time I tried 15% and it went in so that's a bit strange. I do realize that the EB 4 isn't as accurate as grade 5 and I'm not to far away needing only about 14 cards. I'll have to try out both methods as they'll come in handy when closer to the hole in high winds. I supposed with practice I'll speed up, but I guess nerves are involved and maybe trying to be to perfect slows me down right now. Have you any tips for the Spitfire at grade 4 as it hasn't the best guideline and I'm only using it because it comes in handy for the par 4's and 5s on t9. Thanks for your response and again, sorry for the delay with response. You've got a lot of admirers out there and It'sRJtv is one of them as he mentions you for every EB shot he makes lol.
this is awesome, thanks. Golf Clash Tommy recommend to watch on the tournament walk through for Heroes of Rock tourney. Great content, will definitely be applying to my games!
@11:30 when doing adjustment was it 4.1 rings or 4.0 NOT using the powerball selector option?! Just trying to figure out if I had method/number%'s down
Always use the power of the ball in app that you are using. At 11:30 adjustment would have been 50% slider, plus 20% elevation with a power 1 ball gives me 3.5 rings.
Until how much of a TS would the no spin apply rule? Is there a full spin rule as well? I saw -35 rule being talked about in couple of videos
Thanks great video. Nice shot, well played and good luck.
Awesome video Jared. I didn't look through the comments, so sorry if this was already answered.
With Method 1, are those numbers at no elevation change? If so, how would it adjust in the event of a large elevation difference?
Right! Playing the first method gets a little more tricky as you get into higher tours, winds and elevation I have found. I think the 2nd method is preferred by most!
@@JaredAGolf Agreed! Method 2 is my preferred method all day every day. Works well with higher level Rapiers too.
Has anyone tried to determine how much extra elevation to add as the hole extends beyond the club's max distance?
@@mgentile589 we always just estimate how far the pin is beyond max, and add to the slider. The clash caddie slider has a setting that will allow the slider to go all the way to 200%. Other than that you can just add "elevation" to the 20% if its beyond max.
Cant wait to use this method...switching tonight! Thanks bruh!
No problem 👍
My endbringer success has just jumped to 99% using your method 2 Jared. Awesome sir thanks for this improvement to my wedge game.🤜🤛💪
Awesome 👏💥🔥 Thanks
Just wanted to follow up on your video again, once I tried your method. I had been using a maxed out Rapier, but no more. Wow!!! I’ve now made 8 out of 10 EB shots attempted, just unreal. My only misses were my fault, due to poor needle execution, by me. If you haven’t tried Jared’s method, your really missing a potentialgame changer. Thanks again for sharing Jared! Happy New Year!
Thanks Jared, I tryed it and it works pretty well. 👍
All the the shots were either low wind or straight on shots. The only high wind was straight. I could use more examples of 10+ cross winds at 50+ distance to be convinced. Does this same method work for the Rapier? Mine is definitively better than my Endbringer. Also, I seem to have a harder time hitting perfect with the Endbringer.
Great instructions. Why the +2. +3?
On method 1 should you go from landing at 50% & spin to the pin being at 75%? Same goes for landing at 75% &spin to pin at 100%...if that makes sense
If the wind is high and the green is even I don't think topspin will do any harm. The Rapier guys miss when they combine long flight and cranked topspin on a bumpy green.
Great educational video 💪👊😎
Lost on this is that for quite a while the rapier’s top spin makes up for any power loss, making min distance shots into no move shots, mid distance shots into slight move shots, and max distance shots into medium, leaving out almost all actual max distance shots because the min distance short iron shot takes over then. Plus you can use these same tactics for the rapier also. Use which ever you like. I don’t care.
brilliant analysis.Bet you kill Masters with that method.🤔
Ok I have eb 5 and been killing with this method but when I am at max and I do 1/1+3 I'm off. Example I had a 7.7 wind and pulled 10.7 rings and I was off by quite a bit what did I do wrong
Many thanks, Jared. Really usefull method -a game changer, indeed. But, can you eleborate on how to deal with topspin-backspin using your method?
Just in case anyone was wondering, this works exactly the same for all wedges..
Question : if we normally use notebook with the wind arrow , I’m guessing we wouldn’t need to use 20%.
But , I guess I could just not use wind arrow on the wedge shot and stick to the rules In the vid🤷♂️.
scott johnson that’s what I would recommend for consistency sake!
Great info! For method #1, do we need to consider elevation? Say we are at MAX distance and 25% downhill like Grunberg Slopes hole #2? Also what if we are using a Power 5 ball?
Yea for those down hill shots, i recommend the 2nd method and dial in your elevation
The chips I’ve missed with the Rapier lv 8, thinking the extra topspin was worth it 🙈 EB 5 is in the bag, brilliant lesson man thanks very much! 😎🙌🏻
Hi Jared, so with EB 1 to 3 which method is more suitable?
2nd method, but go with 15% elevation and the slider!
two things - If you're going to suggest playing the EB at lvl 5 then it might make the video more accurate if you actually used level 5. In the 1st method you're using an EB8 and putting a decent amount of Topspin on the ball, something EB lacks until level 7. Would be unfortunate to display a video if you can't apply that amount of TS to reach the hole at your designated marks. That said, it was a solid video and thanks for sharing.
Thanks Eric! EB Level 5 gives you 56 Top Spin which is actually more than enough to play a shot at 25% club or close enough to it and spin the ball guide to the hole. One of the reasons I recommend the NO spin option only for those lower level EB's, but at Level 5 its the money club for sure!
@@JaredAGolf Wanted to check EB5/6 gives you exactly 5TS, I believe that was the same amount that you used in your video. Ended up playing the hole and had to use EB to chip for eagle. +20% mid numbers hit perfect and down she went.
What app are you using to calculate the numbers to adjust plus 20%?
Great video and clear explanations. What changes do you make to your strategy when you encounter glitchy spots on the green?
Kat in Bali you can make MINOR changes to the spin if necessary.
That was going to be my question. I believe that it's much better to let the shot roll out rather than using back spin, but it is a bit of a risk (IMO) to use this method for the greens that are inconsistent, especially if you are using the 1st method for a shot where you are using a lot of top spin on a tricky green. But I will say this is a great tutorial and I'm glad you chose to share it with everyone.
JARED on the 2nd example if the shot is at 50% on the slider do i add 20% to the slider value or is the 20% in the elevation adjustment and would a 50% shot be at mid distance?
+20% on the Elevation
Wow what a really helpful video why don't more people playing this game make videos like thank you hope to see more videos from you
Thanks Chris for the kind words!
Looks great but does it work with real wind? Because on your examples you have eb 7 or 8 but with rookies wind. Is it the same with 10 to 15 wind? Thanks for your video
67,000 views….1,600 likes…..the term Endbringer School has been used in the community since the day the video came out….you tell me if it works😂😂
@@JaredAGolf so 2.3% of the total views “liked” the video…doesn’t prove the point you’re trying to make with this response. And like a lot of people mentioned, you’re using eb7,8 for rookie level winds, and the 1 high wind example was almost direct headwind, which a wide range of adjustments would’ve worked for that shot.
With a high enough wind, I was still missing using 20%. I started using 15% with my EB5>6 and it's rare to miss at any distance, still feels like I'm over adjusting judging by where the ball always lands in the cup but at least it gets in the cup now.
That's because both methods are faulty... The reason it "works" is because: 1. Extremely small bullseye, 2. Most of his examples are in head/tailwind.. But if we take the first method, and you look at those 2 clips with sidewind, particulary the one with 9+ wind, it doesn't go "straight at the pin".. It just barely drops left edge! Sure if you don't use an app use that method, but use it more like: 25% club = adjust 1/3 (33%) of the wind in rings (10 in wind = around 3.3 rings) , 50% club = adjust 3/5 (60%) of the wind in rings , 75% club = adjust 9/10 (90%) of the wind (10mph wind = 9 rings) , and 100% club = adjust 12/10 (120%) of the wind [EB LVL 5].
The reason the second method works (except for the reasons mentioned above) is because his bullseye always is around 20-25% (slider) below the pin, and should be the position that he is using as a reference, but with +30% elevation instead of 20%. I play both EB6 and Rapier9 at +30% elevation from the start, adding/subtracting elevation depending on the hole, and i have not missed ONE SINGLE SHOT where i had the correct elevation for the hole beforehand.
To J! I really appreciate the guides and tutorials made by you (and many other streamers/uploaders) and don't wanna sound unsupportive/negative. I just think that if a video like this gets posted, it should be with accurate numbers=) keep up the good work!
I use option 2. But out curiosity. Option 1. Is it for EB lv5 only or lv5-8?
If you have Rapier8 and EB4, the Rapier has superior accuracy in that case. So if you have Rapier8 and EB4, would you go Rapier in that situation because it has superior accuracy?