Is Spider-Man 2 Actually That Good?
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2023
- Thanks to @PlayStation for providing a review code.
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The long awaited sequel to Marvel's Spider-Man is here after five years, and now that it has been a few weeks, I figured I'd give my brief thoughts on this game. Is it actually as good as they say? Well, watch and find out!
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#spiderman #spiderman2 #ad - Ігри
The opening is right out of a God of war opening. Huge boss to teach you controls.
the storyline in this game was so so good, I was genuinely distraught over peter losing himself to the symbiote. I didnt do any side quests or anything during that section. i made an effort to get through that part of the game as fast as possible because it felt so genuinely wrong for peter to be acting the way he was. I'm also so so glad they brought back Martin Li, he's my favorite spiderman villain by far.
At the end of the game, when you’re fighting the symbiotes I could’ve sworn that when defeated they sounded like the Chimera from Resistance. Even if it’s coincidental I like to think it’s Insomniac giving a slight nod to one of their franchises.
We need a ratchet and clank sonic crossover
@@castedsp1dersThat’s such an out of pocket idea but I mean, I’m not against it
@@castedsp1ders Eggman trying to pilot Nefarious
I would totally go for modern day cross-over game where Spider-Men and the descendant of Joe Capelli would team up against the invasion of Chimera.
I could seriously just websling around the city for hours. This game is so good. The graphics and animation are beautiful, the characters and story are great, and the controls are so smooth.
I love the swinging
Could? I’ve done just that
@@graysonkrieg1422or flying
characters, especially Peter are not so great tbh
@KamilAshirov thank you. Peter is a weak ass character in this 1. Every body whoops him in this.
Are people really that excited playing mediocre stealth missions with Mary Jane? The A.I is so braindead.
But Spider Man outweighs MJ.
No, the only people that speak positively about those missions are the ones that are given review copies.
@@MASJYT no, it's everyone. Including post launch. Go suck my balls
Ngl the mj mission were not that big of a deal in this game you can just kinda rush through them really fast so they take up like 1% of my combined playtime so I did not mind them that much
Or they genuinely enjoyed the game @@MASJYT
Venom didn’t have enough screen time.I think they might’ve removed a couple of encounters with him because the concept arts and the trailer for Spider-Man 2 made it seem like you were going to have a boss fight in the middle of the streets with cars being thrown everywhere.tony todd even said that we’d have a chase scene similar to rhino’s in miles morales.
That was a CGI trailer
@@silentghost751And it's weird to advertise something blatantly not in the game
@@drekiskrek5008most games do that. It said *not real gameplay
Stop listening to actors and voice actors about what's going to be in a game or movie. They are usually wrong and overhype you
@@ericblakemore3381 well they’re either lying or what they said was going to happen was cut.and the former is highly unlikely unless tony Todd was a jerk who wanted to overhype fans for no reason I just don’t see any other logical explanation.
Personally, I couldn't take Venom seriously once the third act kicked in. His whole "heal the world" shtick is tiresome and cliché. Was it so hard to just have the classic Spider-Man vs Venom showdown instead of throwing everything at a wall and seeing what stuck?
Biggest criticism is that the story just tries to fit in too god damn much, which is typically more of an issue for final/third entries. First game had a very clear "core" with Peter and Otto's relationship that tethered everything else together, but the sequel struggles to find that same grounding.
Peter's relationship with Harry vs. Miles, Peter's corruption by the symbiote, Harry becoming resentful towards Peter, Miles' conflicted feelings towards Li, building up Kraven's threat...few of these things ever get the proper time to breath and so their conclusions feel like a half-baked excuse to get to the next plot beat ASAP.
I like the game but I don’t think they didn’t do enough to make the open-world unique with meaningful side content. It’s basically the exact same as the first, just faster
i actually think there's more stuff to do in the first game post story
This game is not worth 75 dollars at all
yeah, agree with this whole thread.
The side content was mostly fine but it was a step down from the first game. And there were more mission types that I didn't find fun (like the really long flying missions).
My problem was how the missions unlocked. In the first game it felt like there was more variety at a given time. In this one it seemed like almost every side quest unlocked one at a time. Meaning you can either do the same mission over and over in different locations or you can wait till others unlock. And if you wait, the game will punish you since you won't have resources to upgrade.
Considering this is the third Spider-Man 2 that's been released since I was a kid( 4th if you want to count Game Boy and 5th if you want to count The Amazing Spider-Man 2) I still find it funny that only one of those games let you go to the goddamn Statue of Liberty. get your shit together developers I want to swing around that statue again.
Maybe in the 3rd game they'll have a story reason for you to go to the statue of Liberty. Like how in Spider man 2 for PS2 you went there to stop mysterio turning lady Liberty into a Giant mysterio
@@Animefan-uk8pw hopefully.
I love this game but it’s ridiculous how there isn’t a new game plus at launch.
The first one didn't have NG+ at launch either.
Insomniac has said that they're going to try and get it out before year's end, right now they are focused on bug fixes.
@@SpikeStarkeyI don’t get why they can’t just include it for both games. Even Jedi survivor had new game plus and that game was broken.
most story games now have post launch ng+ though
@SpikeStarkey And then the IP Address incident happened 😔
Clearly we didnt play the same game. Was the gameplay good. Yes, but not leaps ahead of Sm1. The story and villians of Sm1 are leaps ahead of Sm2.
I had some minor issues with the game, like the side missions all unlock one at time so you have to choose between not upgrading and playing the same mission over and over. But my big complaint is the Kraven storyline really overstayed its welcome. It also didn't convince me that Kraven is not one of the most boring Spider-Man villains.
Still everything else I loved. And everything else about the story was great (like Miles and Mister Negative, and the Venom stuff).
If you don’t think Kraven is that much of a menace then you didn’t pay attention to your play through at all. Look up his comic book origins to have better insight. Just because some villian doesn’t have powers doesn’t mean they aren’t worthy of being a superhero’s villian. You need to realize certain things about Kravens entrance and stay. Play it again buddy
Honestly I loved Kraven's storyline. He felt like a fuckin cult leader it was great
quick note on the bugs. I love this game but I've just experienced so many. Suits turning into debug cubes, object clipping/phasing, important NPC character models just not loading in even in cutscenes and then crashing the game when you try to reload your save. Lots of crashes, usually foreshadowed by the visual bugs.
the game is otherwise good but they go beyond funny and into game breaking territory. Hope insomniac can patch most of em soon.
It has crashes on me few times but everything else is good
I had the debug cube right as i got anti-venom, which was hilarious because it looked like the symbiote took back over peter and he just disappeared
No
Yes. Shut up Xbox fanboy
This game is still fresh, and I'm happy to see your amazing review glad to find a funny review while also being super honest.
I blasted through this game in like 4 days, so clearly I don't hate it. It's one of the best games I played this year and it's one of the best pieces of Spider-Man media that exists.
But holy crap this game made Starfield look polished. I have my own issues with the pacing and writing of the story, it's still great and a ton of fun but I like the first one better. But my biggest gripe was in the 32 hours it took me to 100% this game, I experienced five hard crashes, five instances of all of the background noise in New York City disappearing, one instance of enemies freezing in place and being totally unresponsive to combat, one instance of a mandatory button prompt not registering and soft locking me out of mission progress, one instance of my character model totally failing to render and instead having me jump and swing around as a little gray cube, random instances of enemies clipping through objects, crimes disappearing right as you approach them, other crimes showing up with no actual criminals to fight or activities to accomplish when you do get to them, Spider-Man constantly quipping about where did these symbiotes come from even though there aren't any there, The game not registering that I am pressing the right trigger and as such not releasing a web for me to swing on, and some really weird texture warping around characters next or the failure for anything other than their head and neck to render
It does look like they just dropped a patch yesterday so they're definitely aware of these glitches, but it is surprising to see such a major Sony first party title be released with so many of them
But again, all of that being said. Nothing was game breaking, nothing couldn't be resolved by either reloading the last checkpoint or restarting the game after a crash, and as a massive fan of the character and of the original game, this was still an absolute blast to play and I still go home and boot it up just to swing around the city. I am absolutely ecstatic for the addition of New game Plus as well as some other post game features, and then especially the DLC
Insomniac is a developer that I am confident in there ability and intention to fix these technical issues, so I'm not going to hold it against the game forever, it just sucks that that's my first impression with it
But much like the first one, I will be playing this game over and over again. There are a few other things I think it could have done better or actually does worse than the first game, but on the whole it takes what worked, cleans up a lot of it, and then make certain things way better. It's going to be hard to go back to replay that first game because it's going to feel really slow. Traversal was the best part of the first game, and it's the absolute best part of this one as well.
Yes it really does make you feel like Spider-Man... 2
I agree with the story I really was bored through half of it. Then it picked up when he got the black suit then I loved it but through half the story it was awesome this game was as good to me as even MM but that’s just me
@@kingspeech2240 Yeah it has a slow pickup. After beating it I kind of see why they did what they did pacing lies with the story, the issue is just that having all these slower character segments for a bit would probably work if they were shooting a movie, but we're playing a game and it can start to feel real stale when you immediately get a taste for how exciting this game can be and then it focuses on high school flashbacks bike riding for an entire mission lol
you got to understand that starfield is actually one of the most polished games of this year.
Like even more than baldur's gate 3 which had three years of Early access with feedback came out fairly boogie more buggy than starfield and had an issue where the game would become really sluggish and laggy and just unplayable after 2 to 3 hours.
Like if I'm being honest out of every game that came out this year starfield was the one that I ran into pretty much no bugs this year.
Like everyone clowns on Bethesda calling them bugthesda but somehow they released one of the least buggiest games this year.
@@JohnDoe-ou7mq That is not my experience with the game at all.
@@JohnDoe-ou7mq Is this opposite day?
I'm currently playing through the game now. Couldn't me more excited to see venom in a current gen game. I've been playing spiderman games for a long time and glad to see the series still kicking. Great review 💪🔥🙌
100% agree. 10/10 game. Also apparently that cube bug wasn't patched because it happened to me today at the very end of my stream when I was buying all the costumes for the last trophy. It was actually hilarious webswinging around and fighting crime that way. Closing the game and restarting fixed it
I bought the first game when it came out and beat it while my son was to nervous to play. On new game plus I showed him how to swing, fight and he became obsessed with it. The Miles one came out and we beat it and had a fun time. Got 2 day 1 and we were giddy on the way home cause nothing was gonna stop us as we were going to "Be greater together" He unlocked his Andrew suit and me my Tobey suit. This game was a blast, and the anticipation till this game came out was through the roof! We kept pushing each other higher and higher everytime one would lose or start the next mission of beating up goons or boss fights and we love the game for it. I can't wait for 3 and have to say that Insomniac did a fantastic job!
I can only really say 2 bad things about this game. 1.) The length. For a game they're asking $70 for, this felt WAYYYY too short. I don't remember how long 2018's Spider-Man was but it felt way longer than this one. And 2.) The cosmetics. While a lot of the suits are good, about half of them are reused or derivative. Like why did we need both the new default suit and the old one when they look so damn similar the difference is negligible at best? Is there any reason they couldn't have included the old default costumes as a skin for the new ones? I'm glad the old models are here but it feels like padding
Would've been better if the other villain deaths were included in the main story to make Kraven more threatening instead of working in the background.
I adored this game. If the potential dlc is coming I will buy it no question, which isn’t a usual choice for me in dlc outside of fighting games
I had a lot of fun and you’re right I was blown away away by how good the game was with the sandman fight perfectly getting you on boarded on how to play the game but kept it fast paced! Just finished the platinum yesterday and I think I put about 40 hours in
Wow i guess it's true what Ranton says. Don't trust reviewers that accept review copies
8:50 - 8:55 you really just made a whole bar 😂
Umm I'm not sure about "leaps and bounds" bruh 💀
If they do make Newman The villain of the next game I wouldn’t be surprised but I do hope they do hold them back for one game more or at least half of it just build on his evilness that much more
The stiff and uncanny looking character models, especially for Peter and MJ (seriously, they look more jank than in the ps4 game), as well as the terrible, inoffensive, bland dialogue and quips permeating every moment of gameplay, really put me off from buying this. There's no bite or snap to the dialogue, and it just never stops. It's a testament to how low standards are for writing that this game's writing (its story, I think, would be really cool if it were conveyed better) is considered acceptable.
It is pretty graphically and technically impressive, though, and the moment with Norman trying to save his son from Venom was genuinely pretty heartfelt, so I'll give them that.
Agreed with everything you said. Sadly the normies will just consume and call it GOTY
I did fall through the ground over in queens after running and jumping there, then after loading in I was clipping through a tree
I really enjoyed the side missions on this one. There was a lot of emphasis on the small things Spider-Man does that help in a really big way. I happened to not complete the Howard mission until the very end of my playthrough, and it was the last thing I needed to 100% the game. It was very poetic, and it was such a beautiful mission to end my playthrough on. This game was the only reason I bought a PS5 a few months ago, simply in anticipation to play it at launch. It certainly lived up to the hype for me.
That mission really got me. I didn’t expect myself to get a little emotional for that.
did the same thing with the howard mission and you’re so right
For a second I thought you meant Howard the Duck.
The pigeon mission? Are you kidding?
@@MASJYT found the brain lit
This game is by no means a masterpiece, people need to get their heads out of their asses and make up their own damn minds.
it's good to see you're doing a new frontiers vid on how the games has changed for the better over the course of the year. if it's the sort of thing you would be interested in care to try Hi-Fi rush, I just completed the game on normal this past week and are going back to wrap up missing collectables before the usual difficulty playthroughs for steam achievements. the whole emphasis on doing everything to the beat of the music is great and the humour is on point. special shoutout to the second major villain Zanzo being a game version of an absolute Jojo's bizarre adventure fanboy.
This games was fantastic I was smiling with joy for the first two hours nonstop, but i also have some criticism.
Understood that they wanted to cut down the side content from being meaningless but the game did feel slightly lacking on that point.
I do think there should have been 1 more side quest line that involved both Spider-Men.
I've got other minor nitpicks, but the last real issue I had was that the progression of black suit. I'd like to have Miles interact with Peter a bit more to see his Mentor go from and angry and losing his patience to violently angry. Because it feels like there is a step missing from Peter fall from grace.
The only reason the side content felt shorter is: YOU DONT HAVE TO STOP 165 CRIME TO GET A 100 PERCENT!!!
"This is something else" - Bully Maguire
(First of all sorry for my bad english im not a native speaker)
Man I love this game but the story was so bad and the suits were ugly. RIP my boy Kaine
Its a big shame. I was firmly convinced that the story would be a masterpiece. Spider-Man 1 made me laugh, gave me goosebumps and made me cry. And Marvels Spider-Man 2?
I had no feelings about Spider-Man 2. Not even a facial expression flinched. I really tried to like the story but it just kept getting more and more absurd.
1. Black Suit. I seem to remember that the people at Insomniac said they wanted to do something special with the black suit. But I have to admit that none of this got me. Spider-Man's "dead" wasn't epic or anything. It was clear to everyone that he wasn't going to die anyway. He simply got the suit from Harry while he was about to "die". There were also no cool interactions between Black Suit Peter and Black Cat, Black Suit x Black Cat is just peak fiction. I would also have found a church scene very cool where Peter thinks about what he did so wrong. A epic shot of him. In the rain in the dark, starring at his hands while some epic ass music is playing. But no. We did have a church scene with Kraven, but it wasn't that spectacular. It was just for plot purposes. No other reason.
2. Harry Osborn I barely felt any emotions for Harry. I thought it was really nice how they explained the relationship between Peter and Harry at the beginning of the game. You could understand that they were best friends but the "death" scene of Harry was not good at all. I didn't feel any emotions. To be honest, I didn't even cared if he died or not. Miles even saved him in the end. At the end of the day it was just a reset from the first game. Harry is sick, Norman is desperate only with the difference that all the events with Venom happened. I and many others cried at Aunt May's death scene and I still cry to this day because it was so emotional. The Harry scene was not emotional at all for me.
3. Last Arc. The last Arc has a bitter aftertaste for me. I found it very epic and very over the top on the one hand. It reminded me a lot of Web of Shadows, but that's not a bad thing. I just think it's an exaggeration how we went from "A virus over NYC" to "We're going to take over the world and everyone will be a symbiote" (Regardless. Where are the other superheroes? The Avengers exist, etc. But I'm ignoring the point since it is a Spider-Man game). I think between game 1 and game 2, there could have been another game that was a danger to all of America or other continents. Harry could even have appeared in the game and we would feel a real bond with Harry, which they didn't achieve, at least for me in Marvels Spider-Man 2. Harry's "end" would be much more dramatic because we would have strong bond to know Harry better. What will it look like in the next game? Save not just the world, but the entire galaxy? What I loved so much about Spider-Man 1 was that it was a classic Spider-Man story. The story was realistic. This story was just a fanfiction from a kid, who wtachdd a Web of Shadows Anime Music Video from the 2010s.
4. Post Credit Scene 1/Norman Osborn. Osborn wanted Spider-Man to kill Venom but not Harry. He did exactly what he wanted and Osborn still gets so mad that he goes to Otto (The Otto thing makes no sense btw bc he doesnt even know Miles). I understand that Osborn is angry that his son is sick and injured again. Nevertheless, Peter and Miles did what he wanted. Everyone was ready for Harry to die, it was always mentioned how Harry would die if Venom died too but Peter still wanted to try to save Harry. He and Miles did it. Both of them saved Harry. Norman Osborn asks Otto who the Spider-Men are. I thought Norman Osborn was a smart man. Standing next to Peter is another Spider-Man with African-American hair and a specific hairstyle. Sure they didn't communicate properly, but wouldn't Norman find out in his lifetime that Peter has a friend/teacher who has the same hairstyle as Miles? Later, Mary Jane comes and holds Peter's hand. Yeah Norman didn't see it but like come on.
AND YES IMNSONIAC. WE GET IT. OSBORN WEARS GREEN LIKE HOLY WERE NOT BLIND.
5. Miles weird suit. I don't want to talk about how the suit looks like because this is about taste. But does Miles even bother to hide his identity anymore? Why are you showing your hair? You're just making it easier for people to guess who you are.
6. Post Credit Scene 2. I was so excited to see who it was. My guess was Cletus with the twist that maybe they're bringing a version of Cletus who isn't known and every viewer knows that Miles' stepfather or what he would become is a dangerous man who might be Carnage at some point and knows that Miles is Spider-Man. How interesting that would be. Instead we got Cindy Moon as a new character. Regardless of what scandals this figure caused, I think it's a shame that another Spider character is coming. I just hope they completely rewrite her story and it's not some crappy "biological love" story between her and Peter or even Miles. But in the end she might just become a new side character without spider powers. Or she even becomes a good and exciting character.
7. Peter nerf. Brother, you worked as Spider-Man for years. You look like the biggest idiot while the 17 year old can do everything. This is nlt the Peter from Spider-Man 1 that I loved.
8. Venom had thousand ways to kill Peter. He grabs his head and flies somewhere. Why aren't you doing anything? What's with this plot bs? Just end it. Why let him live and throw him away? This is just bad writing.
9. Spider-man quit. I suspected Spider-Man would give up in the end. However, I thought because MJ is pregnant and Spider-Man can't afford to die bc hes gonna have a kid. But no, he just stops.
Man this story was bad.Funnily enough, I was worried that the gameplay wouldn't have that much of a difference. The Gameplay was amazing. I loved that 10/10. My least concern was that the story would be so terrible because I saw that they could write the best Spider-Man story. I would say that the story of Marvels Spider-Man 1 is much better than all the Spider-Man films. But that was just disappointing and I was speechless at what rubbish this story was.
How about reviewing the Infamous games from Sucker Punch (Sly Cooper series)?
I think my biggest critique, beside how Miles wasn’t as involved with Harry and the symbiotes as I’d like, was that the gadgets themselves were kinda not that good. I would rather feel powerful using gadgets then have mediocre ones. I like how we don’t need to pause the action and we can just use them instantly, but I wish they were better and that Peter and Miles had different ones.
RIP impact webbing and web lines. Loved using those so much in 2018.
Spider-Cube is very much still a thing. I played post-update and it still happened to me.
I’ve gotta say, the fast travel in this game is INCREDIBLE! Once you’ve 100% completed any district you can fast travel where ever your cursor is on the map, and my god is the transition smoooooth! This kind of fast travel is going to be hard to beat for any other free roam kind of game
It’s a nice option but to be honest- half the fun in Spider-Man games in slinging webs around flying thru the city- fast travel kinda takes that fun away but still a nice option to have
@@SwiFTDBL oh I agree 100% brother. I’m just pointing out how incredibly flawless the fast travel is. I rarely use it as well, but when I’m not in the mood for a web slinging adventure, the fast travel system will get you where you want fast. It’s also cool how if you’re already swinging, and then fast travel, you’ll be in the middle of swinging again once you arrive at your location.
It definitely shows you don't read comics because right after you said you don't read comics.. you immediately went to state the obvious about Kraven.. yes him being ruthless is and always has been part of his character. Also a more serious and sad venom ?? you mean... comics venom where Eddie has sad stories. Please don't act like you know what you are talking about when you clearly do not know about the characters you are talking about. If you just liked Venom and Kraven here and that's all. That's fine, even if the symbiote being pure evil is a dumb plotpoint anyway. But then don't act like yes this is a good take on the character and act like you know what you are discussing.
Not to mention, yes while you didn't get any bugs it should still be brought up as a critique.. it's still an objective flaw within the game and should be mentioned and critiqued in a review called "Is Spider-Man 2 actually that good". It reminds me of your MGS critiques being stupid with the exposition and retcons criticisms when like.. all stories do exposition and hell you're a sonic and RE fan which are two series that retcon itself all the time, game series' that does those things way worse and yet you still take them seriously, you clearly as a critic do not hold everything to the same standard and this review proves that as you bash Sonic and other games for bugs and rightfully so might I add but then don't hold Spider-Man to the same standard when it also has bugs that players keep encountering.
It was a great experience but it dragged on a little towards the ends. If they shaved off an hour or two in the main story it would be the perfect experience for me. Also the MJ missions were a real drag. I like MJ as a character but her gameplay was really limited. I wish we instead got a mission or two as Harry as the "good" venom or hell, even MJ as Scream. It was a great time though, I don't regret my purchase.
I think you are the first person I have seen with this take. I constantly see people complain that the game felt way to short
game should’ve been like 5 hours longer bro wdym shorter 😭
honestly felt like the game was very short.
L take 💀
@@latima123ify It felt long because of the lack of enemy variety and boss battles honestly. And the boss battles we did get dragged on. Venom had like 6 or 7 phases in the end. You can't tell me you didn't get sick of fighting Kraven's goons because if you didn't I'd call you a liar.
I thought it was the Toby maguire one.
This game is a dream come true. I loved the first game but felt there could have been improvements made to it like faster and more manual traversal, improved graphics and of course adding the iconic black suit. I’m happy to say all those features were included. I love the story for the game especially the Lizard mission, Kraven vs Spider-Man mission and the Party Infiltration mission. Those were so fun and I love how we got to see Peter using his suits powers to their fullest extent. Including Sandman and Mysterio was something I didn’t think would happen but I was glad to see them.
Watched Griffin's review first, so no way I'm buying this game.
No one cares
Here you are. You do. xd
Why would you need comics to get into a video game?
Griffin at least went into it with an open mind and liked the Sandman boss. Then he showed all the crap that makes me not want to play the game for the rest.
I don't watch Synthetic Man, but if he's dissuading people from Spider Man 2, safe to say that review's better than J's.
@@chandllerburse737 No, he went into it hyped and was let down, and all of the crap in the game like forced stealth or spongey enemies or playing as MJ just appeared before him.
Can't wait to play this game for myself. Just waiting until Christmas.
I personally despised the end of the game. Spoilers ahead.
When you finally kill Kraven in the game, it felt dragged out with a whole lot of nothing, and then the final boss fight was just RUSHED. I also despised the fight with Venom, it felt exactly like Odin from God of War Ragnarok. but I had so so so many bugs with Spider-Man 2.
I'd say it wasn't that dragged out kraven gets what he finnaly wanted and gets to not only die on his own terms as a warrior but he also creates the next "apex predator". Theirs also the parallels between Harry and kraven how one clings to life while the other wants nothing more to die,they're both trying to fight against their fate. I think the venom boss fight is way better just in terms of narrative and presentation this man venom lifts an entire school and football field and then gives you the hands. You also don't even get an actual w against venom even though your exploiting all of his weaknesses to the upmost ability. While Odin just screams like a little girl and goes on to just get slept by kratos,freya,and atrues 💀
Nothing is rushed or dragged out. Insomniac never disappoints. The ending is good. Shut up
Since we got venom carnage could also happen and if green goblin will appear in the future we could be getting the red goblin or king and black carnage
Guessing you haven’t 100% it yet
@@SSJ_Lang what do you mean
@@FatalGod404 Have you 100% the game?
@@SSJ_Lang I forgot but then I remembered he had carnage in the container
If could only had a prototype 3
I'm 95% a PC gamer, but bought a PS5 last month specifically for this game and it did not disappoint. Just a wonderful experience. The PS5 is truly an impressive machine.
I wish the final battle between Kraven and Venom wasn’t so easy. I also think it would’ve been better if venom went after Kraven at his base.
I know I’m in the minority here but I think I prefer the original game. Yes there’s some nice quality of life improvements here, and it sure does showcase what the PS5 can do. Yet I think Spider-Man 2018 is more unique and the story was more impactful.
The cube glitch isn't patched out. I got it to happen last night. Although, it was a complete accident
It will get patched out. Calm down bro
@@Shahriyararin63 I wasn't upset, I was just stating that it hadn't yet. I actually thought the glitch was funny
It’s the exact same game as the first with a new story. Not enough evolution/innovation
Welcome to a sequel bud
I mean i dont have the game but when my cousin let me play it i was actually impressed because i dont use Playstation but it was good
I was 24 years old when Spider-Man came out in 2018 I was 25 when Spider-Man Miles Morales came out in 2020 I can't wait to get Spider-Man 2 and play it!!!🇯🇵
The only thing I disagree with this review is that both Miles' and Peter's stories were handled with equal importance and that it felt well structured. One of my biggest concerns going into this game was "how the hell are they going to make Miles feel important in this HEAVILY Peter centric story" and it turned out that they DON'T. Until Peter goes on a rampage, Miles has the most boring and dull missions imaginable, while Peter is fighting alien possession, Miles is trying to save the museum and is worried about his college essay, that whole plot I found pretty dull.
I don't think his story with Li is good at all, Miles' whole quest for revenge was never ONCE implied in this universe so it came off completely out of nowhere, and the actual confrontation with Li I found quite lazy. He sends you into this mind palace where he exploits your fears, but it's the most surface level character writing like "Miles is afraid that his friends will leave him"... ok, they won't though, like none of those things was implied or setup once, he was worried about his essay the entire game and now things get suddenly SERIOUS 😳Yeah wasn't fan of Miles in this game, which is a shame cuz I think his gameplay is more fun than Peter's, but you play as him for 50% of the game and they're writing him as an afterthought. The last boss fight you have in the game is against Venom as Miles and Miles doesn't have literally ANYTHING to say to the guy because the interacted with him twice in the entire game, and one of those times through a phone call.
That is just... not good.
Gameplay for the most part is amazing, but for some reason it really wants the player to EARN IT, it really loves to waste your time, MJ segments while not nearly as bad as they were in the first game, just went from bad reactive stealth to bad active stealth. AI in these games is REALLY BAD when it comes to stealth, the games fortunately don't use stealth a lot, but in a lot of stealth segments, playing as Peter included, it's just RIDICULOUSLY easy because the enemy AI is so NPC like. None of them have any peripheral vision or hearing senses.
Even though I was fairly happy with the story aside from the Venom thing, felt a bit rushed, symbiote became evil kind of out of nowhere and Venom is NOWHERE NEAR as interesting as Ock was in the first game in my opinion, I am not really a fan of the character writing, to me Peter, Miles and MJ have like ZERO charisma, they're really dull, especially when I compare them to the dynamic Peter and MJ had in shows like 1994 or Spectacular.
I have a suspicion that Insomniac was WAY more interested in adapting Kraven than Venom, but knew that Venom is more popular. Kraven is a MUCH better villain than Venom, he legitimately had some of the hardest lines in the entire game and his boss fight is probably my favorite one because of how personal it feels. It's two agile, intelligent warriors duking it out mano on mano.
Yeah overall, I'd give a game a 7. Base gameplay is incredible, ridiculously fun and addictive, definitely way better than the first, story for the most part is serviceable, Kraven is AWESOME, Venom is kinda mid, character writing is kinda dull and stealth still sucks.
I felt that Kraven was considerably weaker than Venom narratively. He’s completely disconnected from everything and just kinda got bored one day. Honestly I think the villains with the most potential are flint and Quentin. Also, I liked the bromance between Peter and miles, and I think MJ’s relationship with Peter is fine, but the group dynamics were way off
@@buffkangaroodog I kinda like Kraven cuz of that, he's completely isolated from NY and I think that's kinda fire. My favorite Spider-Man stories were always the ones where you feel as if Peter is simply WALKING INTO the story which was already unfolding, Kraven didn't come into NY FOR Spider-Man, but for an equal, since he didn't want to have spend his entire life working, building towards something, just to have his body fail him at a relatively young age, like that's depressing af when you think about it.
I legitimately REALLY enjoyed Kraven, every scene with him was incredibly interesting and captivating, I didn't care for Kraven this much since the Last Hunt, and this definitely took some inspiration from it. My only gripe was that I simply wish there was MORE OF HIM, and when that's the only critique I have of a character, you know that they're good.
Sandman was great also, definitely one of the best bosses in the franchise, my top 5 would probably be:
1. Kraven (as Peter)
2. Vulture and Electro
3. Lizard
4. Doc Ock
5. Sandman
I think Quentin's redemption is good and I definitely enjoyed his arc, but I was kind of disappointed on his actual missions gameplay wise. Mysterio has a lot of potential to really fuck with your mind, but instead it all kind of boiled down to "beat X amount of villains to proceed"
Like what about a mission where you're surrounded by mirrors and the enemies would only be in the reflections, so you'd have to play the level while looking in the mirror, or a level where your controls are reversed or something.
I thought this game didn't do a good job with both spider-man in the story. They put to much in the this story for how long the story was
Miles story with Martin li was actually nice because it shows how much vengeance miles had for li but decided not to be to cought up on that revenge by not hurting but and not forgiving him later on.
@marquintabell5307 only thing with that was he didn't even mention li not once in his own game but I still like it
I agree mostly
The game is great
I didn’t like the story making the symbiote alien that makes people mean and evil.
The symbiote wants to bond with its host
And is in love with Peter as he is a fantastic physical specimen
It was a great way to explore Peter and the darkness that was inside of him
The symbiosis the suit has is enhancing what’s already there
Not making some evil notions on its own
You really gonna come on here and lie to us? Wack.
Probably my favorite super hero game of all time. My only “issues” are the lack of post game material and no new game plus as well as no way of changing venom powers back to black
Resident Evil 4 remake to me honestly deserves game of the year! That game is perfect Spider-Man 2 while great it had some aspects I wasn’t a fan of the story kind of felt rushed in areas
Nothing is rushed because Insomniac never disappoints
@@Shahriyararin63 that’s just the way I felt still not a bad game but I feel like most companies release games not complete I mean no new game plus at release really?
@@Gamingwithahandicap but Insomniac never releases game incomplete. Insomniac complete it properly. Also New Game Plus normally doesn't get added right away after launch. Like God of War Ragnarok new game plus didn't get added right away after launch. We had to wait about 1 or 2 months after God of War Ragnarok launched. Insomniac confirmed that New Game Plus is coming before the end of this year
@@Shahriyararin63 yeah but to me that’s a bad road developer’s are going these days, again I’m not saying Spider-Man 2 is a bad game far from it I just think Resident Evil 4 remake is game of the year that game was perfect!
@@Gamingwithahandicap Insomniac is not going in any bad road. Relax. Also remakes don't really get nominated for GOTY
MJ straight up got pod personed and is a totally different person in the new game
I actually like the new Miles suit, my one problem with it is the mask showing Miles' hair.
From what I have personally gathered... Hell yeah it is! I'll admit it has a few rough spots on the story, but damn Insomniac knocked it out again!
Skipping this game didn't really dig the first one and 1.5 didn't change my mind
Whatever marvel game has venom in it i hope they have Tony todd voice him again loved his performance
My favorite mission is where spider-man helps find a senior and once he finds him both he and the senior spend a few minutes talking about the senior’s life.
I had to stop playing a lot of the side missions due to how boring they are. Like I don't care about some deaf girl Miles knows or "seeing things from the hero's perspective" I just want to play the game.
My only real gripe is that the iron spider arms shouldn’t have been in the game. Not because they aren’t fun to use, but because it doesn’t fit thematically. Like how can Peter be stretched for money but still afford the resources to make the arms? Also, the symbiote powers don’t feel as impactful as they should be because, while cool, its not that much more powerful than the arms, and its just overwrites the arms anyway. Not having the arms would make Peter’s feeling of jealousy towards Miles while wearing the black suit make more sense.
Well I at first wanted to avoid spoilers but since I’ve heard this game has problems I don’t wanna deal with spoilers are irrelevant to me
Loved your video
The game is so damn good!!!!! I love the game. The bosses are awesome because they are what a boss fight should and would be!
I like that we can use ps5 controller like a wimote and this game is awesome. It was the best experience ever
I played Spider-Man 2 myself because I pre-ordered the game and it was amazing to play, but I had to play it on October 20 while others played on October 18. I don't know why I had to play the game on that day, but either way, it didn't bother me however i played this game on the second hardest difficulty and got destroyed by all the bosses except Sandman. The one that killed me the most was the god damn Lizard and he even crashed my game because I was parrying and dodging at the same time
So what happened was, when a crush attack happened (crush attacks can't be parried or blocked, only dodged), I parried and dodged at the same time, so the game thought I was still in the parry position, but it also thought that i dodged so the game didn't know what to do so it just crashed
There were four glitches that happened to me. The first one was the cube, the second was about the Lizard, the third was about me wearing colors similar to Mr. Negative in the anti-venom suit while i was doing Sandmans last mission, and the fourth was about me having an electric aura around Peter and Miles, even by switching to different characters i still had it (and before you ask no, it wasn't Miles's lightning)
It came out on the 20th, anyone else playing it before that got it early
Personally, I really want new game plus to release as soon as possible so I can power through the story over and over again without having to worry about upgrading so much stuff to keep the enemies from destroying my ass
Was anyone else bored with this game? Sure, it looked great. The opening WAS fun, but I just felt like it wasn’t fun? I wasn’t as emotionally invested as I was with 2018. Anyway, cheers for getting PS to offer a copy. It’s been fun to re-watch these videos.
Hey what happened to the patreon i want to re subscribed to it after making some cut back due some financial
despite the exclusion of time of day change, mission replay, and new game plus, i love this game and is how you do a sequel. its up there with batman: arkham city in my opinion. theres some story beats that i wish were a little better but overall i loved it even the surprisingly emotional side quests. insomniac delivered in my eyes
I haven't played the game yet, but I've seen the full story, and I don't think I'm particularly impressed. It's certainly better than miles morales's story, but it's completely inferior to the 1st.
In trying to cram all this spectacle, it loses a lot of the personal touch the 1st game had, and the rushed symbiote arc with peter doesn't help. It's supposed to be gradual, but peter is raving about how good it feels the moment he gets it. We don't get enough peter being a dick to his friends to MJ and Harry too. It's seriously just one good scene.
The 3rd act also feels rush, and harry's fate, while sad doesn't compare to the emotion that the final boss of SM1 and Aunt May's death had.
Lol Spidah Man
Is that a Canadian accent?
I like the amazing Spider-Man 1 costume more to be honest
So, since you're big on reviewing big games this year, how about Baldur's Gate 3?
What a great movie! You can even press buttons sometimes!
Is a game
Imagine if ppl and all of NYC knew who Spiderman was? Peter wouldnt have to worry about losing his main job or worry about paying rent and having to struggle.
Yeah but then he’d have to worry about personal retribution which is worse
@@buffkangaroodog yes I'm aware of that and thought about it but I was referring more to how it would effect Peter personally from that aspect.
I think the main plot was okay but it needed a longer span of time for the symbiote to take over Peter, it was way too quick from when it put the symbiote on to becoming 'evil' peter. I would also say I feel Miles plot with Mr Negative was very thin and felt more it was cropped in there than be a fully fleshed out plot. I feel like the Story might have been better staying focused on Peter in this game, since the whole symbiote suit needed more time to mature in terms plot. A lot of missed potential, Miles story felt tacked on. Which makes me think Miles and Peter need separate games so each can have their story fully fleshed out.
I think Venom was in the universe too early, should have been a final of series villain from how he is power scaled in this version, I think Green Goblin should have come first then Venom, I also feel that Harry should not have been Venom or been him for long an Eddie Brook would have been better.
Too many silly mini games, And once again MJ takes you out of playing as Spider-Man.
Also Miles should have had a plot dealing with Prowler not Mr Negative, Mr Negative stinks in my opinion, I found him boring as a villain.
I think it's an interesting take that their leaving Green Goblin for last if this is a trilogy.
Agree on the black suit it feels like it's missing a step on Peter's fall from grace.
Miles also went from being obsessed to letting go with Li way to easily. He easily has the most disappointing middle point of his arc this game. Because I thought it was interesting that I thought they were going to have the evolved venom powers be corrupting on Miles as a parallel with the black suit. With Miles learning to "balance' his two sets of energies to be a better Spider-Man.
If Venom wasn't so over powered in this game and more to scale of what he normally is I would not mind Green Goblin being the main villain for the third and likely final game. Problem is though it's going to be very hard to top Venom who nearly turned the world into Symbiotes.
The game did miss a lot of potential honestly, many some other less useful stories and missions should have cut to allow the main stories of the Two Spider-men to actually be given the room they need.@@hurdco7
@@Historyfan476ADthere is nothing bad about it. Marvel's Spider Man 2 is better then the first 2 games in many ways. Story and gameplay is amazing. Also side missions aren't important because quality over quantity
@@Shahriyararin63 I explained why I think the plot needs a lot more work. Many of the side missions are boring or suck, Miles helping a couple get together, when meanwhile in the city crime is rampant and super villains are active like Kraven and his goons.
@@Historyfan476AD again it's better then the first 2 games especially when it comes to story. The story is already amazing and it perfectly utilizes Peter and Miles as they both have their separate storylines. Side missions aren't important because quality over quantity. So there is no point of criticising the side quests because they are optional
Web of Shadow's combat is still leagues above any Insominac Spiderman game. People were crying for fall damage more than wall and air combat
Web of shadows is easily has the best combat in Spider-Man and that game was rushed.
The problem with current internet discourse is that all games are ammunition for the console wars with every faction treating their exclusives as the Gotys and any other game console's exclusives as overrated pieces of shit with zero nuances in the discussion. I dont have a Ps5 so i dont have a personal opinion of the game but for opinions of people I trust it seems that Spider man 2 is a great game but weaker than its original entry.
Hope your soul was worth the price of a Spider-man 2 review code.
Never trust reviews that were given a copy of the game by the publishers, it should be obvious why
He just likes the game + is a good review
i really feel like the only person who was a little let down with this. i thought spider-man 1 had a lot more going for it and even miles was a bigger improvement imo. 70$ for this sp2 had me feeling a little let down.
You're not there are definitely some others who were let down by it. Personally I enjoyed the game a lot but I respect your opinion.
Disagree but I guess
I can kinda see where you’re coming from there are some elements that I miss form the previous two entries and the fact there’s nothing to do after to beat the story and have to wait two months for more features from the previous two games just sucks
@@alexanderenyioma1754 what is even the point of your comment. adding “i guess” adds nothing to the conversation dawg either say something of value or comment individually that you liked it 💀
I really loved this game, but it's far from perfect.
It's a perfect Spider Man game so it's not far from perfect
@@Shahriyararin63 It’s not?
@@_YourFlyIsOpen it's not far from it. It's a perfect Spider Man game
It’s weird how he liked this but not sonic frontiers, lmao
Too many manchilds thinking this ever stood a chance for goty.
Short answer: it is good but not THAT good. Familiar and comfortable after the previous game, and looking better than ever. But doesn't break new ground. Story isn't quite at the level of 2018 game either.
it’s not better than the first in my opinion but it’s still fuckin amazing
Thought the ending was incredibly weak. Like oh yay MJ is starting podcast??? Peter is like...retiring from being spiderman at 26? Miles designed the worst spiderman costume ever?
He never retired though, he just taking a break and miles suit is not that bad.
@@marquintabell5307 Interpreting this ending as "Just Peter taking a break" is like interpreting the cowboy riding into the sunset as taking a short walk.
@@MASJYT so what's the problem?
@@marquintabell5307 That Peter got replaced as the developers themselves admitted.
@@MASJYT he never got replaced? Where did you even get this information.
I wish the story was longer but I think a short and sweet story is better than a long and dragged out story
Duration doesn't matter because quality over quantity. The story is already amazing
Yes
DAE think the story was kinda toothless? I can’t think of anything of substantial consequence that happened. Nobody died except some villains off-screen, no relationships were ruined, all of Peter and Miles’ friends know their true identities so there’s no tension, everybody is so nice that it feels fake etc. Kraven and Venom are two of Spider-Man’s most ruthless antagonists and they don’t really cause that much personal damage to the main characters, except Harry I guess.