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After watching this a while and and watchng it again today, it's become clearer to me that this is what O-Sensei was doing, but not any of his students except maybe Tohei and Gozo Shioda and probably only parts of it... O-Sensei did go to China for some time where he may have learned this... at around 16:00 it seems that from boxing range you don't "need" to apply jin because the boxer is not really in a dangerous range, you can just step back and be safe and run, but in any range where the attacker could be in a dangerous range the fa jin would happen, according to what he is saying, of course he's leaving 99% of it out because he's not allowed to tell people about it... in this aspect the fa jin may just be a natural form of self defense that is latent in us because maybe we are at a lower stage in civilizational development, during the "Golden Ages" maybe everyone was walking around with a full dan tien and if you attacked them you would just bounce off from the natural fa jin... my Aikido teacher who studied a lot of different martial arts including Tai Chi once put his chi into me and I was totally relaxed and unmovable, he couldn't move me and he didn't say anything but he was like "see, that's how it feels..." that's how it is, total relaxation but unmovable. There are other aspects of this that I've felt in Aikido from different teachers, like being stuck... but the Aikido masters don't think of it in that way, they are just doing "that" technique and it works because you get stuck to them. I wish they would just give all the secrets, but I guess it might be too dangerous to the practitioner to do that since you get get the chi moving in the wrong way and harm yourself or even kill yourself accidentally without a good teacher.
A really good video and not just for Tai Chi Chuan. Very in-depth and I would definitely attend one of your seminars on how you teach inner forces and how to generate them. Thank you dear Sifu Mizner.
I've been studying taiji for over 40 years and teaching for over 20. This is certainly one of the very best explanations/descriptions of high-level skills in English that I've ever seen. I'd be very interested in learning what place if any does seminal retention have in Sifu Mizner's kung-fu. Thank you for this excellent video.
Where can I find a good Kung Fu, Tai Chi (Taijiquan), Chi Gong (Qigong) DICTIONARY? "How would you define" (how do you write? : tzung (release), pung, ching, fajin najin, jin, QA, li force (abone force), ??? www.quora.com/unanswered/Where-can-I-find-a-good-Kung-Fu-Tai-Chi-Taijiquan-Chi-Gong-Qigong-DICTIONARY-How-would-you-define-how-do-you-write-tzung-release-pung-ching-fajin-najin-jin-QA-li-force-abone-force
if you've been studying for over 40 years and teaching for 20 then surely you'd know the answer to your question. having said that as far as my understanding goes, it wouldn't be possible to attain such a high level if he wasn't retaining seminal fluid..
Adrian Brice This Adam Mizner guy is just about the worst possible person to ask for definitions of these terms. He doesn’t even get Chi right or understand that Ji is not Chi lol he’s legit horrible. He thinks football and Taiji can’t be done simultaneously and that’s straight up stupid.
steve brindle With all due respect, you have been mislead and misguided. Adam Mizner doesn’t even know the basic definitions of words like Chi and he doesn’t seem to know that Ji is a different word than Chi. In practice, Mizner tosses his students around using Fa Jin but if you listen to the words he uses to instruct, it’s all incorrect. He says you can’t be a weightlifter and do Taiji. He could not be less correct or more incorrect. The advice he’s giving you is bad. He says you don’t even have a Dantian until you practice Chi Kung. He’s wrong, everybody has Dantian lol that’s like saying I don’t have lungs or a heart. He’s a moron. Do you know the difference between the word Ji and the word Chi/Qi?? If so you know more than Mizner LOL
How many practitioners have you seen? Or do you mean best on UA-cam? It's very hard to judge watching a video. Most people buy things based on how good the advertising is, not how good the product actually is. To decide which martial art to study, you have to meet your potential teachers, not base it on how cool they look in videos.
Mike Martello I think may have been at a higher level before he died. By western do you mean non-Asian people, as in race, or do you mean out of people living in the west? Because if you are referring to people who live in the west, then I would say Zhang Yun in the USA and Guan Nan Wang in South Africa are way higher. Especially Zhang Yun.
I find Sifu Mizner the most interesting of all styles the way he approaches the philosophy. I wish he were near Massachusetts. I'd love to learn the style.
I had the opportunity to push with Adam pre-covid. It is clear 2024 he is even better than 2019 but even in 2019 "car accident" was an accurate description. Adam was humble, polite and respectful. I will never be at his martial level, Huang Sheng-Shyan's or my Sifu in Vancouver but "I" can work on self discipline, humility, patience and respect. When at the top, you get much hate. Many years ago I trained a while with Dr. Yang Jwing Ming. He mentioned someone asked him to sign one of his books but as he was signing they kicked him in the head. He signed giving the book back and let it go. That's essentially what happens when arm chair warriors sit back and claim Adam's skill is not authentic. They look Big but wouldn't actually do a seminar to find out.
I enjoyed this interview. Very well designed, flowing from one topic to the next with a logical progression that facilitates understanding. Two thumbs up!
Thats actually not what he said at all. What he said was if you try to stick to a boxers quick jabs and strikes it wont work. What you have to do is be so much more released than the boxer that you create a set of conditions whereby the boxer becomes stuck to you. Pay attention!
The big giveaway is you never see any video of this guy actually fighting or competing. He knows some tai chi, but it is all fake demos with compliant students.
For those who say that the students should resist and 'not jump', let me assure you that if you are faced with a true internal master, then the more you resist the more he will make you jump! ;)
Very nice video! I like how mr Mizner is realistic/humble about his style instead of stubbornly saying how his style does this and that and that always works. By saying it sometimes fails (at least in terms of the ideal solution, of course Tajiquan has several additional layers such as the force he mentions at the end of the video), he becomes so much more credible in the things he shows. Very impressive. The principles seem very related to wing chun, in terms of receiving force, sticking with it, and moving in when there is a way forward, with the difference being probably that WC does the latter mostly by striking. Look forward to the next video :-)
What Sifu Adam said about internal “song” is the crux of Taichi. However, I learned that it’s also relative, its important not to be too loose when doing push hands so that opponent will advance, the degree of looseness should be in response to the degree of incoming “Jin”. “Bu Diu Bu Ding” is the goal , stick to the opponent with softness and fluidity.
I think these are very detailed perspectives. Basic knowledge is passed on here. But you are already in the senior idea. Adapting and dealing with the incoming forces is a very important element and you are absolutely right. It's hard to go into this in depth in a video. There are always several paths and perspectives that lead to the same goal without violating the foundation.
@@Livingtree32 Us westerners call it superhuman force because it is so much more than we have been taught our muscles can generate. Nor does it look real because of how convinced we are due to western culture that this isnt possible. Though we see animals do it all the time. It’s not actually superhuman, it’s actually more accurately the exact same force type that animals default to using. Animals are many times more powerful than humans due to the state their brains are wired in, hence why mental cultivation is of the utmost importance in martial arts that are aiming for this force. If you weren’t aware, humans are animals as well and we have the same force output available to us as any other animal, so long as the conditions are met for the force were aiming for, hence all the training aimed at slower movements, and pushing hands as these are two awesome tools to show you where you still have yet to correctly release your structure, muscles, tissues etc, when you can achieve full body release through your entire being, you will have met the conditions required for using the force Adam is displaying. It’s not really that hard to understand how and why its working when you feel force from someone who hasn’t fucked around and trained correctly for many years, what is hard, is believing it, especially when its in front of your eyes happening to you for the first time. Same force Bruce Lee was learning through wing chun, he never mastered it and liked using muscle power alongside it, but anyone with the brain to recognise it will see how fast he could move, and how much power he could get out of muscular usage combined with this mental state. Most people cant seem to add things up apparently. Ah well, experience trumps everything, so you will never technically be wrong in your opinions if it lays outside of your experience and cant fit into the parameters of logic for you. But the moment you experience something of this nature your opinion would likely change. (depends who you meet though and how good/released they are). I will say however, if you do meet someone who claims they can do this and you feel them using pushing/pulling/grabbing forces on you, then they cannot do this in the slightest. You will not be able to detect the person moving no matter how you grab them resist them etc. If you ever feel this force from someone that is how you will know they are using released tensegrity. (this force is commonly felt off of babies fyi) I will leave it there, do with the information what you will, your path is yours to walk alone, I hope it takes you to the top my friend. Good luck and be well! :)
Yes, notice that when he pushed Krieger, the effect was quite different (around 10:06) That appeared like a normal push. When he pushed his own students, it appears like something supernatural was going on.
really interesting..no personal cult. normal guy. with so much skill. normaly explained without try to impress people how unbeatable you can be..really really nice to hear watch and for my daily training...trained Wing tsun and Systema for years..mostly Wing Tsun but the longer i train the less i think there the ONE SYSTEM
It is a cool transition. I know wing chun isn't thought of as a soft style but since the key to it is a lack of tension, coming from a strong karate and boxing background it took me a while to relax into the ease of wing chun. But once I did it took my boxing to a whole new level. I personally believe relaxation is key in any hard or soft style.
Yes, I see it exactly the same as you and have had the same experience. Relaxation is the key along with proper body mechanics using physics. Internal forces are the forces that cannot be seen. You could call it chi but I think it's mechanics and physics! It is good skill. Tai Chi Masters have a strong structure, even a judoka can only bring a Tai Chi master down with great difficulty. I have seen that. I have learned a few Wing Chun systems but only a few use the correct physics and mechanics when standing or the Sifu can do it but doesn't teach it! As an example, Shui Shon Tin taught all of this as a basic element, but he wasn't the only one. It is taught and said in Wing Chun: Bad Siu Nim Tau /Sil Lim Tao...bad Wing Chun/Ving Tsun but which technique is most trained in the first form? The fook Sau, the yat ji kuen, the sau kuen? No the yi ji kim jeung ma... ergo, bad stance, bad Wing Chun and bad stance, bad Kung Fu or bad martial arts. The art to stand right! (Joke: Not flying dragon Kung Fu lol) If you can't stand properly, you don't need to start running and he can have the most perfect movements in chi sao or anywhere else...everything "stands" or falls with the stance, the Yi kim jeung ma in wing chun!! In other martial arts with their stances. Sorry, that was too long.
Watch the video from 12:26 at the slowest speed setting. The body mechanics of his student buckling their leg to fall away just doesn't seem natural given the direction of the force. He's not pushed off balance, he collapses himself.
Absolutely it's called hypnotic compliance, the student would report adams qi made him weak, Adam would smugly admit it was his qi, to a judoka this is just hypnosis, mind tricks that cult leaders use.
So is he saying that just general, conventional fitness methods such as weightlifting or calisthenics or whatnot is going to always be detrimental to internal development? Or was there more context or understanding that I just missed?
Congratulations! Well, thatś what what I call a comprehensive view on Tai-Chi. But all that from a higly trained and expereienced view, however, with less emphasis on steps, even though mentioned. To make my point more clear, in classical Karate, we have been taught : - beginners , keeping the distance, moving in big circles, -intermediate students "fighting " at closer, i.e medium distance, or learning angles using sidesteps - advanced can already play with distances and angles and lear timing , even thorught etc. Having spent over three decades in dojo, readers would appreciate presenbtation structured as above. Paul,67, retired instructor of Karate.
This guy seems to have a lot of chi and great skill and also like a really chill dude. I really liked the explanation of NAJIN. Few seem to have that going on. Cool video!
People are so easily influenced,the secret to success is to be the influencer,not the influenced. Honestly people,let's test this in a real life situation.this man has never been in a real fight in his life.
REALLY REALLY NICE brother.. well said...well explained...and so right... great parallel examples as well.. been there... still returning to the Original Sate..... Openness
This interesting to hear about hard styles not being able to do Taijiquan. I think it was Hu Yuen Chou (Woo Van Cheuk), student of Chen Wei-Ming and eventual closed door student of Yang Cheng-Fu who said Choy Li Fut and Taiji SHOULD be trained together.
The founder of Bagua only seriously trained students who already had a strong foundation in another art, which was almost guaranteed to be a hard style every time. Plenty of other arts mix switch between hard and soft, like Northern mantis
it's more about your brain cells coordinating what you do with body. simply put, you can't have external martial arts instincts butting in, when sequencing taichi movements. if you can achieve this distinction, yes you can or should be able to operate both external and internal. it's a matter of getting to what internal art is about, hence the focus, and exclusion of external art influences to internal art beginning point at least. thereupon you can practice both internal and external art properly. and if you can't developed both concurrently..... find one you like and further it. suit yourself.
Do any videos exist of him using this on someone other than his student? I would love to see a demonstration on an "external" martial artist (boxer, wrestler, muay thai).
Liked the demo. if you understand the "shoot" you can control the person, however, these demos usually break down when someone comes in striking and gets you off-step, so to speak, and opens a door to shoot in or take you balance.
Kiern, did you actually feel the power at the point where this shock is delivered? i.e. as was described here the feeling of car crash. The reason I ask is that the last bit where the other guy was in clinch with the Sifu and suddenly fell, the whole thing looked a bit unreal/choreographed.
Adam...I know you give fair criticism and coverage where it is due....I just can't get in to this guy. Tai Chi isn't my thing, but I respect it for what it is, the history behind it, and those who practice it that know what it is really useful for. That being said, .....I can't with this guy. It just feels like a lot of "yes men" ukes that are prepared to move a certain way so as to make him look good. How would the applications that he teaches be used with an active, aggressive opponent? I've never seen anything that would make Tai Chi relevant in instances where someone is resisting and wanting to attack. Sure....you can apply things here and there, possibly. But I feel like he thinks this is the answer for everything.....which I guess he has to in order for him to sell his style. Before anyone jumps down my throat....no. I'm not one of those "get an MMA guy who trained just for a few weeks and we will see how this style works" type guy. I've just seen him in a lot of videos and presentations, and i see no practicality in it at all. And before anyone else points out "he is a martial aryist not a fighter" stuff.....well....I've heard him say how he would "own an opponent's spine" and so on. He is saying that he is in control of an attacker. That is a statement made by someone who feels they have a useful psychological or combative edge over an opponent.
I honestly thought this was some kind of spoof video. Who actually believes this bullsh!t? Tai Chi practice can help people with some fitness but please for the love of god don't ever use this for any kind of defence.
So you basically turn your body into a yoga ball, and people automatically lose balance when they apply force into you. That is unless they are also trained
This fake crap I do Tai Chi and have done it with very hi level instructors and none of them push me and I went flying across room. I hate when students try to make their teachers look like they are super human.
While it's difficult to say if Adam can really fight, the structural integrity he has is nonetheless extremely impressive. These kind of qualities would be useful to not only any fighter out there, but for anyone in general. As a student of a very aggressive Wing Chun school, I'm extremely interested in learning Tai Chi.
Mr. Krygier, if Bruce Frantzis is ever in the east doing a seminar or something, or you ever come to the states, that should make for a very interesting Martial Man interview / episode as well. Thanks for all these great vids
Ah, see this is where the BIG difference between I Liq Chuan and Adam's taiji is! A lot of people will try to say they are the same but Adam's statement "there's nothing natural about the internal way" is very telling. Putting aside any judgement of which style is "better", this is the real clincher, because the entire premise of the I Liq Chuan way is it's harmonizing with nature. It's already there, you simply train to recognize it, not to create something, or build something.
I’d say it’s both, cultivating something natural that you never used before in a way you’re not used to doing, is in turn both natural & unnatural at the same time.
I think it's both natural and unnatural as Randolph says. You can make an argument "against nature" from the Dao De Jing itself. The alchemical way is the "Opus Contra Naturam"- a central tenet of Daoism is "reversal": Dao De Jing 40: 反者道之動；弱者道之用 Reversal is the movement of the Dao; Its function lies in Weakness.
After with some of what he said nut disagree that you must abandon external force. Taiji forms can be practiced at different speeds. For wellness in a flow mediative manner but also fast for martial application. Taiji is based on taoist principles. Balance is key. We shouldnt completely abandon external training or we will become unbalanced
Why is everything you say contradicting? And why is it that you have to explain things in a different way when someone gives an opinion about how tai chi works when their opinion is correct in a way? Just so you would sound smart.
Are the strikes done using internals or is it an external muscle thing? I got the impression that it's counter productive doing push-ups and building muscle mass. So what does one do to get powerful strikes? For examp,e, Mizner showed an elbow strike as an option to end the fight. Where is the power coming from for an elbow strike or a kick etc?
building mass counterproductive to coordination of sequencing. it's like dumping a rock(mass) onto middle of road. the nice thing about taichi, is it actually strengthens your body as well. so the road thickens and widens. and you can still drive through the road.
Best thing to do is to sit on your sofa in the wuchi position for 3 hours a day. Don't move at all and train the chi to flow through your meridans to when a mugger attacks you he will fly away when you express your jin
Robert Lam I agree, I have to say it was quite obvious the Sifu's assistant who looked like a big strong guy, moved so much more easier and with less force than the presenter. For me that indicates a bit of that master-student psychological conditioning.
Martial Man connected that punch every single time, watch it in slow motion. If this wasn’t a parry type of fight this Minzer guy would’ve been on the floor with his head knocked out. More proof this doesn’t work in a real fight.
bro. mad respect. i love ur work plz do a demo/sparing fyt showcasing this art against an actual fyter this art is great in principle. now u needa show case it using a sparing match with actual intent to strike
A highly skilled expert of Yang style Tai Chi Chuan uses less physical exertion and movement than a highly skilled expert of Chen style Tai Chi Chuan. A Yang style expert uses less energy, but more mind to control or transform into negative an opponent's energy.
Mr. Martial Man, I really enjoy your interview with the Kung fu practitioners, I did have a hard time seeing street functionality with Sifu Mizner’s Tai chi. many of us have seen those videos that discredit certain Kung Fu practitioners...Bullshido videos were the teacher barely touches the student and they fly wildly backwards or the student acts as the teachers happy helper. I actually found Sifu Mizner very interesting, but I think I got really lost in Tai Chi’s internal approach. and, with getting lost come thoughts of...”no way could he out class a skilled boxer...” which may show how shallow I am as a martial art student. I think another video diving deeper into the internal aspect of the martial system would help students like me...I can’t be the only guy thinking “this Sifu appears real and sincere, but I don’t see this internal stuff working for me on the streets late at night. thank you again for your videos
Some things you have to earn over many years of study and practice, not from a youtube video or two. I think it's great that brawlers call sophisticated energy manipulation techniques 'bullshido.' Good luck to them. They can stay in their kennels like good dogs.
I mean no disrespect with this comment. When Mizner is demonstrating on the interviewer (roughly 10:00-10::20), he uses and arm drag and a push, and then again another push. Why doesn't he do his sung projecting-chi-into-the-opponent and wilt him like the student/throw dummy? That would at least be something.
My guy, this is all fake.. you’re peddling fake martial arts, you’ve trained in Muay Thai, you know this tai chi is ineffective, I’m not sure if you’ve ever wrestled or grappled but his method of stoping a take down is complete horse hit. You all are disrespecting actual martial artist who put in the hard work, spar, drill everyday for years, and put their health at risk. I can’t respect this at all..
I visited Adam Mizner again a year later and filmed a second interview with him for my channel. There are lots of practical demonstrations in that interview.
THE MARTIAL MAN just watched the other vids. I feel that reactions to him from overly compliant test subjects are greatly exaggerated. I think it is something that must be experienced first hand. Until then.... seeing is believing.
if you believe this silly shit than I got a bridge in the desert that I wanna sale you..... this stuff is the most ridiculous crap out there. any out of shape guy that doesn't spar that wants to tell you that they can control your "energy" is ridiculous to the point of absurdity.
He is demonstrating something he can do. It's not about who is the toughest guy in town. It's not about mma. It's about internal styles of fighting. Who wins in a fight depends on a lot of things. It's not only who has the best martial art. It's not only the style, it's how you use it. In the first ufc, the guy using BJJ beat everyone, but it didn't mean that all you had to do was learn BJJ and you could beat anyone in the UFC. it did prove that BJJ was effective, but there was a lot more to learn in order to win a fight. If mizner could beat a wrestler or mma guy, it doesn't mean he could beat every wrestler in the world. Watch his abilities in action and decide if you would want to add that to your abilities. It's about the abilities. His abilities are real. It's not trick photography.
SoyaSaaauce yes hé sank into the front leg. Not many can do that. The normal reaction is to take the force in the rear leg like he showed the first time.
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Whenever a sifu does something so unreal it looks fake, can you ask him to do it on you rather than on his disciple, please?
After watching this a while and and watchng it again today, it's become clearer to me that this is what O-Sensei was doing, but not any of his students except maybe Tohei and Gozo Shioda and probably only parts of it... O-Sensei did go to China for some time where he may have learned this... at around 16:00 it seems that from boxing range you don't "need" to apply jin because the boxer is not really in a dangerous range, you can just step back and be safe and run, but in any range where the attacker could be in a dangerous range the fa jin would happen, according to what he is saying, of course he's leaving 99% of it out because he's not allowed to tell people about it... in this aspect the fa jin may just be a natural form of self defense that is latent in us because maybe we are at a lower stage in civilizational development, during the "Golden Ages" maybe everyone was walking around with a full dan tien and if you attacked them you would just bounce off from the natural fa jin... my Aikido teacher who studied a lot of different martial arts including Tai Chi once put his chi into me and I was totally relaxed and unmovable, he couldn't move me and he didn't say anything but he was like "see, that's how it feels..." that's how it is, total relaxation but unmovable. There are other aspects of this that I've felt in Aikido from different teachers, like being stuck... but the Aikido masters don't think of it in that way, they are just doing "that" technique and it works because you get stuck to them. I wish they would just give all the secrets, but I guess it might be too dangerous to the practitioner to do that since you get get the chi moving in the wrong way and harm yourself or even kill yourself accidentally without a good teacher.
I love it at 10:20 "fajin is not for fighting, its a way to train the power. You should hit them."
"It's too scary!" lol, man knows what he's talking about :) Another great video dude, many thanks.
he has a lot of good lines!
22 years in China. Internal force martial arts are real. Adam is a master. You won’t believe it until you feel it.
Probably the best, most comprehensive 20 min video on internal arts that I’ve seen. Good job!
Great to hear the positive feedback! Thank you
A really good video and not just for Tai Chi Chuan. Very in-depth and I would definitely attend one of your seminars on how you teach inner forces and how to generate them. Thank you dear Sifu Mizner.
I've been studying taiji for over 40 years and teaching for over 20. This is certainly one of the very best explanations/descriptions of high-level skills in English that I've ever seen. I'd be very interested in learning what place if any does seminal retention have in Sifu Mizner's kung-fu. Thank you for this excellent video.
Hi George, great to hear your history in martial arts and thank you for your positive feedback.
Where can I find a good Kung Fu, Tai Chi (Taijiquan), Chi Gong (Qigong) DICTIONARY? "How would you define" (how do you write? : tzung (release), pung, ching, fajin najin, jin, QA, li force (abone force), ??? www.quora.com/unanswered/Where-can-I-find-a-good-Kung-Fu-Tai-Chi-Taijiquan-Chi-Gong-Qigong-DICTIONARY-How-would-you-define-how-do-you-write-tzung-release-pung-ching-fajin-najin-jin-QA-li-force-abone-force
if you've been studying for over 40 years and teaching for 20 then surely you'd know the answer to your question. having said that as far as my understanding goes, it wouldn't be possible to attain such a high level if he wasn't retaining seminal fluid..
Adrian Brice This Adam Mizner guy is just about the worst possible person to ask for definitions of these terms.
He doesn’t even get Chi right or understand that Ji is not Chi lol he’s legit horrible.
He thinks football and Taiji can’t be done simultaneously and that’s straight up stupid.
steve brindle With all due respect, you have been mislead and misguided.
Adam Mizner doesn’t even know the basic definitions of words like Chi and he doesn’t seem to know that Ji is a different word than Chi.
In practice, Mizner tosses his students around using Fa Jin but if you listen to the words he uses to instruct, it’s all incorrect.
He says you can’t be a weightlifter and do Taiji. He could not be less correct or more incorrect. The advice he’s giving you is bad.
He says you don’t even have a Dantian until you practice Chi Kung. He’s wrong, everybody has Dantian lol that’s like saying I don’t have lungs or a heart.
He’s a moron. Do you know the difference between the word Ji and the word Chi/Qi?? If so you know more than Mizner LOL
Best Western practitioner of Tai Chi that I have seen.
People used to say that about Tim Cartmell, too.
How many practitioners have you seen? Or do you mean best on UA-cam? It's very hard to judge watching a video. Most people buy things based on how good the advertising is, not how good the product actually is. To decide which martial art to study, you have to meet your potential teachers, not base it on how cool they look in videos.
Mike Martello I think may have been at a higher level before he died. By western do you mean non-Asian people, as in race, or do you mean out of people living in the west? Because if you are referring to people who live in the west, then I would say Zhang Yun in the USA and Guan Nan Wang in South Africa are way higher. Especially Zhang Yun.
@@perrypelican9476 Dont underestimate a sharp eye
@@zachary7897 Any links that I could check out?
I find Sifu Mizner the most interesting of all styles the way he approaches the philosophy. I wish he were near Massachusetts. I'd love to learn the style.
Lovely plants in the background.
Probably one of the most inspirational and respectful martial art videos I've ever seen.
You are totally brainwashed if you are impressed by this.
I had the opportunity to push with Adam pre-covid. It is clear 2024 he is even better than 2019 but even in 2019 "car accident" was an accurate description. Adam was humble, polite and respectful. I will never be at his martial level, Huang Sheng-Shyan's or my Sifu in Vancouver but "I" can work on self discipline, humility, patience and respect. When at the top, you get much hate. Many years ago I trained a while with Dr. Yang Jwing Ming. He mentioned someone asked him to sign one of his books but as he was signing they kicked him in the head. He signed giving the book back and let it go. That's essentially what happens when arm chair warriors sit back and claim Adam's skill is not authentic. They look Big but wouldn't actually do a seminar to find out.
❤ Mizners. Calm. Humble way
12:36 “Cuddle me” - things I never thought I’d hear from an Adam Mizner video 😂
I enjoyed this interview. Very well designed, flowing from one topic to the next with a logical progression that facilitates understanding. Two thumbs up!
Jeffrey Ring thank you for your feedback. Happy to hear you enjoyed it.
He said if the guy is a boxer and is fast, you can't do it. He said something that really made sense.
@Someone who know how to Taiji is more about striking than grappling, actually.
@@Livingtree32 no its not lol.
@@arbogast4950 Yes, like 99% of Northern Chinese martial arts. It does have some grappling to it, but the main goal is to finish with a strike.
Thats actually not what he said at all. What he said was if you try to stick to a boxers quick jabs and strikes it wont work. What you have to do is be so much more released than the boxer that you create a set of conditions whereby the boxer becomes stuck to you. Pay attention!
@@Livingtree32 Don't get misconstrued, he wasn't talking about grappleling. It was about releasing the Chi, when making contact.
The big giveaway is you never see any video of this guy actually fighting or competing. He knows some tai chi, but it is all fake demos with compliant students.
Thanks very much!
You're welcome!
For those who say that the students should resist and 'not jump', let me assure you that if you are faced with a true internal master, then the more you resist the more he will make you jump! ;)
Thank you for posting this. It’s very interesting and illuminating🙏
Thanks for listening
Very nice video! I like how mr Mizner is realistic/humble about his style instead of stubbornly saying how his style does this and that and that always works. By saying it sometimes fails (at least in terms of the ideal solution, of course Tajiquan has several additional layers such as the force he mentions at the end of the video), he becomes so much more credible in the things he shows. Very impressive.
The principles seem very related to wing chun, in terms of receiving force, sticking with it, and moving in when there is a way forward, with the difference being probably that WC does the latter mostly by striking.
Look forward to the next video :-)
bl33kselderij thank you for your positive feedback.
Exactly.
bl33kselderij >Wachoo meen "Ahck" ?! dis heeya nucca "NEXT LEVEL" fo ril' go he'd, u cn say it. :-)
nothing humble about promoting fake self defense.. tricking the naive.. the fact that this video isn't 90% downvoted is scary
@@shnizzyshnizzy7552 You are ignorant .Even if Mizner is 200% fake you are ignorant.
Excellent, informative and practical, thanks for posting.
What Sifu Adam said about internal “song” is the crux of Taichi. However, I learned that it’s also relative, its important not to be too loose when doing push hands so that opponent will advance, the degree of looseness should be in response to the degree of incoming “Jin”. “Bu Diu Bu Ding” is the goal , stick to the opponent with softness and fluidity.
I think these are very detailed perspectives. Basic knowledge is passed on here. But you are already in the senior idea. Adapting and dealing with the incoming forces is a very important element and you are absolutely right. It's hard to go into this in depth in a video. There are always several paths and perspectives that lead to the same goal without violating the foundation.
I concur with the method expressed in this video.
Thank y'all for putting this out
I have to say: the more of these videos I see, the more I think they are under the mind control of their teachers!
We all think that until we meet someone able to produce superhuman levels of force. xD
@@inspiringothers7197 Yeah right, superhuman..... That kind of proves the point
@@Livingtree32 Us westerners call it superhuman force because it is so much more than we have been taught our muscles can generate. Nor does it look real because of how convinced we are due to western culture that this isnt possible. Though we see animals do it all the time. It’s not actually superhuman, it’s actually more accurately the exact same force type that animals default to using. Animals are many times more powerful than humans due to the state their brains are wired in, hence why mental cultivation is of the utmost importance in martial arts that are aiming for this force. If you weren’t aware, humans are animals as well and we have the same force output available to us as any other animal, so long as the conditions are met for the force were aiming for, hence all the training aimed at slower movements, and pushing hands as these are two awesome tools to show you where you still have yet to correctly release your structure, muscles, tissues etc, when you can achieve full body release through your entire being, you will have met the conditions required for using the force Adam is displaying. It’s not really that hard to understand how and why its working when you feel force from someone who hasn’t fucked around and trained correctly for many years, what is hard, is believing it, especially when its in front of your eyes happening to you for the first time. Same force Bruce Lee was learning through wing chun, he never mastered it and liked using muscle power alongside it, but anyone with the brain to recognise it will see how fast he could move, and how much power he could get out of muscular usage combined with this mental state. Most people cant seem to add things up apparently. Ah well, experience trumps everything, so you will never technically be wrong in your opinions if it lays outside of your experience and cant fit into the parameters of logic for you. But the moment you experience something of this nature your opinion would likely change. (depends who you meet though and how good/released they are).
I will say however, if you do meet someone who claims they can do this and you feel them using pushing/pulling/grabbing forces on you, then they cannot do this in the slightest. You will not be able to detect the person moving no matter how you grab them resist them etc. If you ever feel this force from someone that is how you will know they are using released tensegrity. (this force is commonly felt off of babies fyi)
I will leave it there, do with the information what you will, your path is yours to walk alone, I hope it takes you to the top my friend. Good luck and be well! :)
Yes, notice that when he pushed Krieger, the effect was quite different (around 10:06) That appeared like a normal push. When he pushed his own students, it appears like something supernatural was going on.
@@inspiringothers7197 I will be bet he will never denonstraight this against a boxer or bjj fighter. This is all bullshit.
Good video. Good Sifu. Good demonstrate & description.
I've never studied Tajiquan but I love the way you explained the internal arts. Very good I have a better understanding.
Michael Fraser Hi Michael I'm happy to hear that you have benefited from the video. Our aim is to share the knowledge with everyone.
🤯 SO GRATEFUL & clarity provided 🙏🐇 hole 😁
Be good to see this gentleman have a roll with a real internal wing Chun gentleman
really interesting..no personal cult. normal guy. with so much skill. normaly explained without try to impress people how unbeatable you can be..really really nice to hear watch and for my daily training...trained Wing tsun and Systema for years..mostly Wing Tsun but the longer i train the less i think there the ONE SYSTEM
Bruce knew that. Be like water my friend 🙌🙏
Great demonstration of Taichi fundementals. Wish my classmates would losen up and watch this.
Wooow..... Great explanation of tai chi
Glad you liked it
❤ thank Kieren for made this video to the world
You're welcome!
It is a cool transition. I know wing chun isn't thought of as a soft style but since the key to it is a lack of tension, coming from a strong karate and boxing background it took me a while to relax into the ease of wing chun. But once I did it took my boxing to a whole new level. I personally believe relaxation is key in any hard or soft style.
16:08 not relax, release
Yes, I see it exactly the same as you and have had the same experience. Relaxation is the key along with proper body mechanics using physics. Internal forces are the forces that cannot be seen. You could call it chi but I think it's mechanics and physics! It is good skill. Tai Chi Masters have a strong structure, even a judoka can only bring a Tai Chi master down with great difficulty. I have seen that.
I have learned a few Wing Chun systems but only a few use the correct physics and mechanics when standing or the Sifu can do it but doesn't teach it! As an example, Shui Shon Tin taught all of this as a basic element, but he wasn't the only one.
It is taught and said in Wing Chun:
Bad Siu Nim Tau /Sil Lim Tao...bad Wing Chun/Ving Tsun but which technique is most trained in the first form? The fook Sau, the yat ji kuen, the sau kuen? No the yi ji kim jeung ma... ergo, bad stance, bad Wing Chun and bad stance, bad Kung Fu or bad martial arts. The art to stand right! (Joke: Not flying dragon Kung Fu lol) If you can't stand properly, you don't need to start running and he can have the most perfect movements in chi sao or anywhere else...everything "stands" or falls with the stance, the Yi kim jeung ma in wing chun!! In other martial arts with their stances. Sorry, that was too long.
I will definitely show my support. Thank you sir. great work. Thx again.
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Excellent teaching. Very clearly explained with appropriate and effective demonstrations.
Watch the video from 12:26 at the slowest speed setting. The body mechanics of his student buckling their leg to fall away just doesn't seem natural given the direction of the force. He's not pushed off balance, he collapses himself.
Absolutely it's called hypnotic compliance, the student would report adams qi made him weak, Adam would smugly admit it was his qi, to a judoka this is just hypnosis, mind tricks that cult leaders use.
Outstanding and lucid demo and explanation.
Woo Woo Fu. Unlike the other masters, this guy always reaches for his willing student to display his magic force projection...
Real tai chi, so seldom seen. Thank you for this posting!,
What's real tai chi?
So is he saying that just general, conventional fitness methods such as weightlifting or calisthenics or whatnot is going to always be detrimental to internal development? Or was there more context or understanding that I just missed?
@MyChina 1950 Epic bullshit is Epic.
There is some really good information here ,love the skill Adam 👌
Glad you enjoyed it
Congratulations! Well, thatś what what I call a comprehensive view on Tai-Chi.
But all that from a higly trained and expereienced view, however, with less emphasis on steps, even though mentioned.
To make my point more clear, in classical Karate, we have been taught :
- beginners , keeping the distance, moving in big circles,
-intermediate students "fighting " at closer, i.e medium distance, or learning angles using sidesteps
- advanced can already play with distances and angles and lear timing , even thorught etc.
Having spent over three decades in dojo, readers would appreciate presenbtation structured as above.
Paul,67, retired instructor of Karate.
Very good! I search this way in my Aikido.
This guy seems to have a lot of chi and great skill and also like a really chill dude. I really liked the explanation of NAJIN. Few seem to have that going on. Cool video!
I wonder why this isn't used in the real world,surly a master of this would be some kind of champion?
People are so easily influenced,the secret to success is to be the influencer,not the influenced. Honestly people,let's test this in a real life situation.this man has never been in a real fight in his life.
I got a surprising amount out of watching this. Thanks for posting.
shawn6669 Happy to hear that :)
REALLY REALLY NICE brother..
well said...well explained...and so right...
great parallel examples as well..
been there...
still returning to the Original Sate.....
Openness
Competent and articulate explanations. Thank you!
This interesting to hear about hard styles not being able to do Taijiquan. I think it was Hu Yuen Chou (Woo Van Cheuk), student of Chen Wei-Ming and eventual closed door student of Yang Cheng-Fu who said Choy Li Fut and Taiji SHOULD be trained together.
The founder of Bagua only seriously trained students who already had a strong foundation in another art, which was almost guaranteed to be a hard style every time. Plenty of other arts mix switch between hard and soft, like Northern mantis
it's more about your brain cells coordinating what you do with body. simply put, you can't have external martial arts instincts butting in, when sequencing taichi movements.
if you can achieve this distinction, yes you can or should be able to operate both external and internal.
it's a matter of getting to what internal art is about, hence the focus, and exclusion of external art influences to internal art beginning point at least. thereupon you can practice both internal and external art properly.
and if you can't developed both concurrently..... find one you like and further it.
suit yourself.
great content. thank you!
Do any videos exist of him using this on someone other than his student? I would love to see a demonstration on an "external" martial artist (boxer, wrestler, muay thai).
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That video just shows that he should improve his diet.
Liked the demo. if you understand the "shoot" you can control the person, however, these demos usually break down when someone comes in striking and gets you off-step, so to speak, and opens a door to shoot in or take you balance.
I like to See sifu Adam vs xu xiadong, i hope sifu wins the Match...
Great video.
great stuff!
well said and explained.
really great and informative interview, thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Kiern, did you actually feel the power at the point where this shock is delivered? i.e. as was described here the feeling of car crash. The reason I ask is that the last bit where the other guy was in clinch with the Sifu and suddenly fell, the whole thing looked a bit unreal/choreographed.
we touched much off camera ;)
Yes I felt Sifu Adams power off camera and can confirm his skill, none of the interview was pre planned or staged.
u know what..interal aspects of kung fu are unreal after experiencing them.
It is obviously staged. And they'll say, "If you don't believe it, spend $1,000 and come to one of my seminars. " They are con artists.
Adam...I know you give fair criticism and coverage where it is due....I just can't get in to this guy. Tai Chi isn't my thing, but I respect it for what it is, the history behind it, and those who practice it that know what it is really useful for. That being said, .....I can't with this guy. It just feels like a lot of "yes men" ukes that are prepared to move a certain way so as to make him look good. How would the applications that he teaches be used with an active, aggressive opponent? I've never seen anything that would make Tai Chi relevant in instances where someone is resisting and wanting to attack. Sure....you can apply things here and there, possibly. But I feel like he thinks this is the answer for everything.....which I guess he has to in order for him to sell his style.
Before anyone jumps down my throat....no. I'm not one of those "get an MMA guy who trained just for a few weeks and we will see how this style works" type guy. I've just seen him in a lot of videos and presentations, and i see no practicality in it at all. And before anyone else points out "he is a martial aryist not a fighter" stuff.....well....I've heard him say how he would "own an opponent's spine" and so on. He is saying that he is in control of an attacker. That is a statement made by someone who feels they have a useful psychological or combative edge over an opponent.
Invaluable information
I honestly thought this was some kind of spoof video. Who actually believes this bullsh!t? Tai Chi practice can help people with some fitness but please for the love of god don't ever use this for any kind of defence.
Why not?
Truly Incredible Please Come To America, Specifically New Jersey I'm Willing To Give Up My World To Learn From You...
Holy shit dude... Walk into literally any grappling gym in Jersey..
great information
Hi, I have a question, if I am training my body in a gym ... I won´t be able to develop qui? or I can do both trainings?
I don't think he said you won't be develop qi, but that you won't be able to move well with it.
So you basically turn your body into a yoga ball, and people automatically lose balance when they apply force into you. That is unless they are also trained
No. It's a MAGIC yoga ball.
This fake crap I do Tai Chi and have done it with very hi level instructors and none of them push me and I went flying across room. I hate when students try to make their teachers look like they are super human.
Don't belive you. Everyone has been caught off balance and thrown across the room anyone can do it. It's not hard
While it's difficult to say if Adam can really fight, the structural integrity he has is nonetheless extremely impressive. These kind of qualities would be useful to not only any fighter out there, but for anyone in general. As a student of a very aggressive Wing Chun school, I'm extremely interested in learning Tai Chi.
He's a simple conman
@@bilbobaggins4403 Why do you think that?
@@TM-rh7zs I don't "think" that ...I know that....it's ontological. People are paying money 💰 for this nonsense.😄😁😅
Structural integrity? 😃😄😁
@@bilbobaggins4403 Im also very skeptical but i am also open-minded. Im hoping to go to the local Tai Chi place too gain some insight.
This guy knows his stuff.
The questions asked here and the questions asked in the "Revisited" videos, reflect a different level of understanding of what's going on
True, my understanding had improved greatly since filming this first interview.
@@THEMARTIALMAN Seeing your journey is inspiring and encouraging!
Very gueuud .. 🫰
Mr. Krygier, if Bruce Frantzis is ever in the east doing a seminar or something, or you ever come to the states, that should make for a very interesting Martial Man interview / episode as well. Thanks for all these great vids
Yes! I've just discovered a lot of Frantzis' material. I would love to see that.
Helo sifu sy dari Indonesia. Mau tanya cara mengatip kan energi nya apa yg harus di lakukan trima kasih
Ah, see this is where the BIG difference between I Liq Chuan and Adam's taiji is! A lot of people will try to say they are the same but Adam's statement "there's nothing natural about the internal way" is very telling. Putting aside any judgement of which style is "better", this is the real clincher, because the entire premise of the I Liq Chuan way is it's harmonizing with nature. It's already there, you simply train to recognize it, not to create something, or build something.
ashe higgs VERY GOOD SYNOPSIS
The words don't matter; body is the same world over. All internals are built/exist from the same base. I think the nitpicking is going into semantics.
I’d say it’s both, cultivating something natural that you never used before in a way you’re not used to doing, is in turn both natural & unnatural at the same time.
I think it's both natural and unnatural as Randolph says. You can make an argument "against nature" from the Dao De Jing itself. The alchemical way is the "Opus Contra Naturam"- a central tenet of Daoism is "reversal": Dao De Jing 40:
反者道之動；弱者道之用
Reversal is the movement of the Dao; Its function lies in Weakness.
words
After with some of what he said nut disagree that you must abandon external force. Taiji forms can be practiced at different speeds. For wellness in a flow mediative manner but also fast for martial application.
Taiji is based on taoist principles. Balance is key. We shouldnt completely abandon external training or we will become unbalanced
Why is everything you say contradicting? And why is it that you have to explain things in a different way when someone gives an opinion about how tai chi works when their opinion is correct in a way? Just so you would sound smart.
Are the strikes done using internals or is it an external muscle thing? I got the impression that it's counter productive doing push-ups and building muscle mass. So what does one do to get powerful strikes? For examp,e, Mizner showed an elbow strike as an option to end the fight. Where is the power coming from for an elbow strike or a kick etc?
building mass counterproductive to coordination of sequencing. it's like dumping a rock(mass) onto middle of road.
the nice thing about taichi, is it actually strengthens your body as well. so the road thickens and widens. and you can still drive through the road.
Best thing to do is to sit on your sofa in the wuchi position for 3 hours a day. Don't move at all and train the chi to flow through your meridans to when a mugger attacks you he will fly away when you express your jin
Adam Mizner and Sifu Sergio should really have a talk someday. Real Wing Chun has the same engine as Taichi Chuan.
They already met few years ago.
@@gio7725 Do you know if we can see them together on some video? Thanks.
@@Keluoduo No we can`t .! There is no video. .!
Amazing video, but I wish the presenter would participate in the demonstration to confirm the effectiveness of it. Nonetheless, very interesting.
Robert Lam
I agree, I have to say it was quite obvious the Sifu's assistant who looked like a big strong guy, moved so much more easier and with less force than the presenter. For me that indicates a bit of that master-student psychological conditioning.
Robert Lam I think it was for his safety that he did not participate. Obviously his student would be able to handle the demos more effectively.
Khalid bin Walid come to a seminar 😉😊
Robert Lam what video where you watching champ, this clip was full of intermittent demonstrations of almost all the principals discussed
Hi, Robert check out 9:37 where the presenter participates hands on.
Excellent video
Martial Man connected that punch every single time, watch it in slow motion. If this wasn’t a parry type of fight this Minzer guy would’ve been on the floor with his head knocked out. More proof this doesn’t work in a real fight.
Change is a light in all situation martial but utily in the life!
bro. mad respect. i love ur work
plz do a demo/sparing fyt showcasing this art against an actual fyter
this art is great in principle. now u needa show case it using a sparing match with actual intent to strike
Lol. Against an actual fighter he wouldn’t last three seconds. Wake up and smell da bullshido.
Yayy! Pretty good.
we really need more of theatre/ circus in Chinese martial arts... :D
Sorry but this is bullshit that does not work in a real fight and its a waste of money! True story...
Did you even train with this guy?
Another brilliant one. Thanks.
A highly skilled expert of Yang style Tai Chi Chuan uses less physical exertion and movement than a highly skilled expert of Chen style Tai Chi Chuan. A Yang style expert uses less energy, but more mind to control or transform into negative an opponent's energy.
No.
Complete rubbish. Chen is the oldest taiji. Yang Sun Wu etc. Are about 150 years old. Chen is more than 500
Common sense tells you then the root for all the others was Chen.
I will not be convinced untill I see video of him ragdolling The Rock.
17:00 I'm just now getting to the point to where I'm seeing the potential of myself doing that technique. The video does not do it justice.
Mr. Martial Man, I really enjoy your interview with the Kung fu practitioners, I did have a hard time seeing street functionality with Sifu Mizner’s Tai chi. many of us have seen those videos that discredit certain Kung Fu practitioners...Bullshido videos were the teacher barely touches the student and they fly wildly backwards or the student acts as the teachers happy helper. I actually found Sifu Mizner very interesting, but I think I got really lost in Tai Chi’s internal approach. and, with getting lost come thoughts of...”no way could he out class a skilled boxer...” which may show how shallow I am as a martial art student. I think another video diving deeper into the internal aspect of the martial system would help students like me...I can’t be the only guy thinking “this Sifu appears real and sincere, but I don’t see this internal stuff working for me on the streets late at night. thank you again for your videos
Some things you have to earn over many years of study and practice, not from a youtube video or two. I think it's great that brawlers call sophisticated energy manipulation techniques 'bullshido.' Good luck to them. They can stay in their kennels like good dogs.
I’d love to see the student or teacher spar to actually demonstrate the art.
Judo is more effectieve then most think.
An intelligent interview - thank you
I mean no disrespect with this comment. When Mizner is demonstrating on the interviewer (roughly 10:00-10::20), he uses and arm drag and a push, and then again another push. Why doesn't he do his sung projecting-chi-into-the-opponent and wilt him like the student/throw dummy? That would at least be something.
Please check my other interviews with Sify Adam Mizner on my channel.
I heard Adam is more snake oil salesman than Jedi like.
My guy, this is all fake.. you’re peddling fake martial arts, you’ve trained in Muay Thai, you know this tai chi is ineffective, I’m not sure if you’ve ever wrestled or grappled but his method of stoping a take down is complete horse hit. You all are disrespecting actual martial artist who put in the hard work, spar, drill everyday for years, and put their health at risk. I can’t respect this at all..
He seems to know his stuff, but I’m always dubious of sifus that won’t demonstrate their technique on you.
I visited Adam Mizner again a year later and filmed a second interview with him for my channel. There are lots of practical demonstrations in that interview.
THE MARTIAL MAN just watched the other vids. I feel that reactions to him from overly compliant test subjects are greatly exaggerated. I think it is something that must be experienced first hand. Until then.... seeing is believing.
if you believe this silly shit than I got a bridge in the desert that I wanna sale you..... this stuff is the most ridiculous crap out there. any out of shape guy that doesn't spar that wants to tell you that they can control your "energy" is ridiculous to the point of absurdity.
He is demonstrating something he can do. It's not about who is the toughest guy in town. It's not about mma. It's about internal styles of fighting. Who wins in a fight depends on a lot of things. It's not only who has the best martial art. It's not only the style, it's how you use it. In the first ufc, the guy using BJJ beat everyone, but it didn't mean that all you had to do was learn BJJ and you could beat anyone in the UFC. it did prove that BJJ was effective, but there was a lot more to learn in order to win a fight. If mizner could beat a wrestler or mma guy, it doesn't mean he could beat every wrestler in the world. Watch his abilities in action and decide if you would want to add that to your abilities. It's about the abilities. His abilities are real. It's not trick photography.
@@perrypelican9476 that word salad was a whole lotta nothing. his "abilities" are not real... they are bullshido.. therein lies the point.
Um at the leg test he just changed what leg he put the weight on...
It looks like that does it? Allot more is going on it's internal it's almost impossible to see from the outside.
SoyaSaaauce yes hé sank into the front leg. Not many can do that. The normal reaction is to take the force in the rear leg like he showed the first time.
@@experiment54 One has to respond to the situation and be ready to change if necessary.